From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #192 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, June 14 2002 Volume 11 : Number 192 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Mermaids... ["Edward of Sim" ] Re: first chords ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: crispy beatles ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: first chords [glen uber ] Roiling in the ruins ["Glow Rose" ] Re: Mermaids... ["JH3" ] Re: Mermaids... [Miles Goosens ] Re: Mermaids... ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: How many Fegs does it take to play soccer... [Eleanore Adams ] lyrics [Marcus Verhaegh ] reap [guapo stick ] Re: How many Fegs does it take to play soccer... [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Mermaids... ["matt sewell" ] Intestinal Oxidative Therapy ["Voodoo Ergonomics" ] Re: Intestinal Oxidative Therapy ["matt sewell" ] Re: Mermaids... [Michael R Godwin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 21:40:55 +0100 From: "Edward of Sim" Subject: Mermaids... >> Naaah, the Mexicans can have 'em. Those fish-scales will really mess up >> your legs, what with the friction-burn and all. > >the mermaids actually have skin like catfish rather than scales like >carp. another urban myth revealed. Almost... The skin of a mermaid's tail as actually more like dolphin skin - -- they *are* mammals, you know! (The expert advice of my daughter Caitlin!) peace Edward +x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+ Edward of Sim a Californian in Lancashire my band: http://www.mp3.com/VirginTwin Spiritual psychedelic power-folk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:58:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: first chords > From: glen uber > > > My dad, a great guitar player before his stroke, taught me G, C, A, D, > and Em and... ...he ordered Chet's guitar course C.O.D. Makes A and E And he's working on B Digs C & W and R & B And we and the chimpanze agree That one day soon he will be A celebrity Hit it, Hit it, Hit it, Ow! Guitarzan, he's a guitar man He's all you can stand Give him a hand! . Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:06:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: crispy beatles > From: Mike Swedene > Subject: Re: crispy beatles > > The Beatles were infamous for this... > the other albums that do this aside from revolver are > rubber soul and Sgt Pepper's. sgt Peppers was > released in both stereo (mixed by martin) and mono (as > per legend, the original mixes were done by the fab > four them selves). I've read that John said the only way to hear Sgt Pepper's was in mono, and I tend to agree. I have a CDR made by Michael Fremer (audiophile/writer for Listener, Stereophile, etc.) of "Baby, You're A Rich Man" on a mono Horzu release recorded with $30K worth of turntable and hi-fi and not only does it completely flatten every single mass-produced CD I've ever heard, but also every Beatles record I own. Startling presence, air around the instruments, palpable soundstage, the whole bit. And it's mono. Not that I own very many Beatles recordings, because I think they all sound like poop. I own a mint late-80s LP pressing of Rubber Soul and I can't sit through more than one song, and the CDs aren't much better either. My original Kinks Something Else (Reprise stereo, I think) does have some stereo weirdness going on, but it's not sterile like the Beatles LP reissues. But I'm not about to plunk down several hundred dollars for the Parlophone or Japanese colored mono LPs either. Feh. The most popular band on the planet, and you can't hear them the way they were meant to be heard. Feh again. . Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:18:07 -0700 From: glen uber Subject: Re: first chords Eugene earnestly scribbled: >Guitarzan, he's a guitar man >He's all you can stand >Give him a hand! Thanks for the chuckle, man! Ray Stevens is one of my all-time faves and I certainly appreciate any and all references made to him. I've mentioned this before, but I happen to think the reason I was so immediately drawn Robyn and other similarly quirky artists stems from the fact that, as a child, I was weaned on such witty/humorous/novelty tunesmiths like Ray Stevens, Roger Miller, Ben Colder (aka Sheb Woolley) and Shel Silverstein. - -- Cheers! - -g- "We're all different versions of the same thing." - --Robyn Hitchcock glen uber =+= blint (at) mac dot com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 21:49:30 +0000 From: "Glow Rose" Subject: Roiling in the ruins Shell >as a citizen of any country except perhaps texas, you have been >carrying >so much weight for so long you forgot it was there: Watch out Greg. Youre making far too much sense. Kay "Your hair is reminiscent of a digesting yak." Surrealist compliment generator. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:03:49 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Mermaids... > >> Naaah, the Mexicans can have 'em. Those fish-scales will > >> really mess up your legs, what with the friction-burn and all. > >the mermaids actually have skin like catfish rather than scales like > >carp. another urban myth revealed. > Almost... The skin of a mermaid's tail as actually more like dolphin > skin -- > they *are* mammals, you know! Maaaan, what is WITH you guys? Haven't you ever even SEEN a mermaid? Much less had sex with one... Sheesh! And I'm *not* talking about that movie with Cher, Winona Ryder, Christina Ricci, and Bob Hoskins either. That movie totally sucked. John "still can't stand mahi-mahi" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:35:03 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Mermaids... At 05:03 PM 6/13/2002 -0500, JH3 wrote: >> >> Naaah, the Mexicans can have 'em. Those fish-scales will >> >> really mess up your legs, what with the friction-burn and all. > >> >the mermaids actually have skin like catfish rather than scales like >> >carp. another urban myth revealed. > >> Almost... The skin of a mermaid's tail as actually more like dolphin >> skin -- > they *are* mammals, you know! > >Maaaan, what is WITH you guys? Haven't you ever even SEEN a >mermaid? Much less had sex with one... Sheesh! > >And I'm *not* talking about that movie with Cher, Winona Ryder, >Christina Ricci, and Bob Hoskins either. That movie totally sucked. THE SECRET OF ROAN INISH, that's your Mermaid Sex flick. Yet it's suitable for all ages. I always forget to put it on my fave films list, but I love it. have ye got a silkie fer me, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:46:30 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Mermaids... At 05:35 PM 6/13/2002 -0500, Miles Goosens wrote: >At 05:03 PM 6/13/2002 -0500, JH3 wrote: > >> >> Naaah, the Mexicans can have 'em. Those fish-scales will > >> >> really mess up your legs, what with the friction-burn and all. > > > >> >the mermaids actually have skin like catfish rather than scales like > >> >carp. another urban myth revealed. > > > >> Almost... The skin of a mermaid's tail as actually more like dolphin > >> skin -- > they *are* mammals, you know! > > > >Maaaan, what is WITH you guys? Haven't you ever even SEEN a > >mermaid? Much less had sex with one... Sheesh! > > > >And I'm *not* talking about that movie with Cher, Winona Ryder, > >Christina Ricci, and Bob Hoskins either. That movie totally sucked. I'm having trouble imagining Bob Hoskins as a mermaid. Actually, I'm not - it's just not a pretty picture. Except for the clam-shell bikini top. Glad that's there. >THE SECRET OF ROAN INISH, that's your Mermaid Sex flick. Yet it's >suitable for all ages. I always forget to put it on my fave films list, >but I love it. As far as I'm concerned, the definitive word on sex with mermaids comes from that Futurama episode about the Lost City of Atlanta. Paraphrasing: "Where do I put my... errr... ummm....????" "Normally, I just lay my eggs, leave the room and let the male fertilize them." Fun! - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 16:25:22 -0700 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: How many Fegs does it take to play soccer... Ok, I am Polish (my old name before americanizing was Sujdak) and this is lame, but....I don't get your joke.... eleanore On Thursday, June 13, 2002, at 01:05 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > --On Wednesday, June 12, 2002 20:49:12 -0500 Michael Wells > wrote: > >> Kay revealed: >>> As the resident "ski" on Feg I hereby declare that I will take no >>> offense >>> whatsoever(in fact, I will downright relish) any defemational Polish >>> jokes(such has how many Poles does it take to spell defemational?) >>> anyone >>> wants to make tween now and the US's next World Cup game;-) > > Annotation: the Big Dipper is the Big Wagon in German ... (what's a > dipper, anyway?) > > Q: How do you know the Poles have joined the space race? > A: The Big Wagon is missing a wheel. > > The wife of one of my best friends is Polish - actually Polish, not US > Polish as in "I'm Polish: my great-grandmother once knew someone from > Poland" ;-) > She likes the joke, but her family and friends back in Poland were not > amused ... > -- > Sebastian Hagedorn > Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 > 50823 Kvln > http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ > > Being just contaminates the void - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:42:26 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Due north (Re: Non-RH site) >do our fellow canadians on this list wish to explain >this? > >http://www.standonguard.com all together now: Oh Canada, you have so many moose Your national bird, it is a piebald goose It's black and white, with patches of grey It stands for everything Canadian, eh? It stands for everything Canadian, eh! James ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 07:21:47 EDT From: Carville1@cs.com Subject: RH 2002 shows on cdr ? Hi - I am looking for recent(and not so recent) shows from our hero on cdr. I have a fairly extensive list to trade from. Especially interested in shows from this year. I missed the shows at the Bottom Line , and would really like to get copies of them. But I'm always looking for any high quality , uncompressed(non mp3) recordings from any time period. Your list gets mine. Thanks. Christopher. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:52:12 -0400 From: F Scott Thomas Subject: Re: evil commie perverts - --- James Dignan wrote: > probably a dumb question, since it will no doubt > introduce more rhetoric of > various forms to the list but - exactly why was > America so afraid of > Communism? > I'm serious here, I really have never understood > this. Anyone? As someone who studied Marxism and the Communist movement in College (thank you, Dr. Benin...) I can say with a bit of certainty that it stems from the totalitarianism of the rulers you could draw examples from at the time. Marx's ideal was to be an evolution--from dictatorships/monarchy, to democracy, to socialism, to communism--and he clearly stated that enforcement of the ideals he professed were doomed to failure. The proletariat was to gain control as a matter of course, not a matter of force. At the end of World War II the US found between a rock and a hard place and unfortunately in bed with an entirely different enemy (Stalin). The decision had been made that it would be necessary to prop up and aid the Russians to defeat the German war machine. Unfortunately the end result was the Russian forces beating the Allies into Berlin and setting up camp there and throughout Europe for decades. It was Stalin's policies and mistreatment of his people that probably more than anything ramped up the fears of the Allied governments in the years directly following VE Day. With the spread of communism under the guide of the Soviet government it was thought that the remainder of Western Europe was at threat under the expansion of this "evolved" state of rule. Opinions hardened and points of view narrowed. The very tenants of Communism/Marxism (and, IMHO, socialism, for that matter) are flawed. Given time (and aided immensely by exposure to western styled democracy) will inevitably collapse under the immense weight of their systems of government. At the very heart of Communism is it's fatal flaw: the end of private ownership and the idea of a commune. As far as utopian ideals go it looks fantastic on paper but once you remove the ability of the masses (and the individual) to better their own condition--be it through hard work, wise investment, or an entrepreneurial spirit--there's little or NO incentive for inspiration or productivity. What there is room for is plenty of corruption and suppression; pursuit of that nice little Dacha in the lake district. Years ago I did an extensive report on McCarthy and the witch hunts of the fifties. In hindsight it was a brilliant period of time. Do not misunderstand me: the black listing and persecution of innocents was a wretchedly horrible thing done under the guise of honorable activity; but the fact that it got that far is amazing. The article that I originally posted on this subject that brought all this into conversation--just as McCarthyism--has to be looked at in a temporal sense. Then-governor Reagan taking actions against dissidents in the mid-sixties isn't that far a field from Joe McCarthy pulling Lucille Ball before his senate committee to ask why she was registered with the communists in the late thirties. It's a matter of the times when they occurred. What floated in the fifties and sixties--admittedly more conservative times--wouldn't necessarily pass today. Perhaps it might, but odds are not. We're precariously close to another McCarthy era, I should think. While I would love more than anything to say IF, I'm forced through common sense to say WHEN there's another mass-scale terrorist attack in this country tied back to Islamic militants I wouldn't, under any circumstances, want to even slightly resemble someone of Middle Eastern decent. Even though it's contrary to the core beliefs this country was upon, I would get the Hell out of Dodge. - -- FS Thomas Pharmedica 8 Railroad Avenue, Suite 1 Essex, CT 06426 800-835-7633 x351 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 11:32:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Marcus Verhaegh Subject: lyrics Does anyone know if the lyrics for RESPECT are available on-line? Thanks. - --MV, http://marcusverhaegh.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 01:22:41 -0400 From: guapo stick Subject: reap john hope -- hurricane expert who founded national hurricane service and continued his career on the weather channel... +w ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 09:05:28 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: How many Fegs does it take to play soccer... - --On Thursday, June 13, 2002 16:25:22 -0700 Eleanore Adams wrote: > Ok, I am Polish (my old name before americanizing was Sujdak) and this is > lame, but....I don't get your joke.... I thought that might happen. It looks to me like the other Polish jokes that have been mentioned are somewhat generic - the soccer one I actually knew, but with Bavarians as the butt of the joke! The one I cited only works in front of the background that, in Germany, Poles have the reputation of being notorious thieves. So these jokes that circulate in Germany are actually racist, because they reinforce this image. Nonetheless, some of them are quite funny, if viewed neutrally. So: the Big Wagon is missing a wheel because the Poles stole it. Along the same lines is the one about Polish triathlon, with its three disciplines: 1. Run to the pool 2. Swim 3. Ride a bicycle home Get it? > On Thursday, June 13, 2002, at 01:05 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > >> --On Wednesday, June 12, 2002 20:49:12 -0500 Michael Wells >> wrote: >> >>> Kay revealed: >>>> As the resident "ski" on Feg I hereby declare that I will take no >>>> offense >>>> whatsoever(in fact, I will downright relish) any defemational Polish >>>> jokes(such has how many Poles does it take to spell defemational?) >>>> anyone >>>> wants to make tween now and the US's next World Cup game;-) >> >> Annotation: the Big Dipper is the Big Wagon in German ... (what's a >> dipper, anyway?) >> >> Q: How do you know the Poles have joined the space race? >> A: The Big Wagon is missing a wheel. >> >> The wife of one of my best friends is Polish - actually Polish, not US >> Polish as in "I'm Polish: my great-grandmother once knew someone from >> Poland" ;-) >> She likes the joke, but her family and friends back in Poland were not >> amused ... Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ Being just contaminates the void - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 09:52:32 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: crispy beatles I used to have a mono pressing of Sgt Pepper and it's incredible - I heard the stereo version many years later and was pretty horrified - it almost sounded like a different album... My friend Mike always said that the mono mix took weeks and months, the stereo mix hours... Cheers Matt >From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." >Reply-To: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: crispy beatles >Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:06:00 -0700 (PDT) > > > From: Mike Swedene > > Subject: Re: crispy beatles > > > > The Beatles were infamous for this... > > the other albums that do this aside from revolver are > > rubber soul and Sgt Pepper's. sgt Peppers was > > released in both stereo (mixed by martin) and mono (as > > per legend, the original mixes were done by the fab > > four them selves). > >I've read that John said the only way to hear Sgt Pepper's was in mono, and I >tend to agree. I have a CDR made by Michael Fremer (audiophile/writer for >Listener, Stereophile, etc.) of "Baby, You're A Rich Man" on a mono Horzu >release recorded with $30K worth of turntable and hi-fi and not only does it >completely flatten every single mass-produced CD I've ever heard, but also >every Beatles record I own. Startling presence, air around the instruments, >palpable soundstage, the whole bit. And it's mono. > >Not that I own very many Beatles recordings, because I think they all sound >like poop. I own a mint late-80s LP pressing of Rubber Soul and I can't sit >through more than one song, and the CDs aren't much better either. My original >Kinks Something Else (Reprise stereo, I think) does have some stereo weirdness >going on, but it's not sterile like the Beatles LP reissues. > >But I'm not about to plunk down several hundred dollars for the Parlophone or >Japanese colored mono LPs either. Feh. The most popular band on the planet, >and you can't hear them the way they were meant to be heard. Feh again. > >. >Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup >http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 09:59:12 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Mermaids... Absolutely - I've seen a REAL mermaid in Bembridge Maritime Museum on the Isle of Wight. Actually it's more like Bembridge Maritime Cupboard.... it's very small and has only about 3 exhibits, one of which is a mermaid, caught in the Solent way, way back in the 1860s... it's an ugly little thing, only about 8 inches long with an ugly little face, furry down to the fish-tail (which definitely has scales). Weirdly, though, it *does* look a little like Cher... Hmm... Matt >From: "JH3" >Subject: Re: Mermaids... >Maaaan, what is WITH you guys? Haven't you ever even SEEN a >mermaid? Much less had sex with one... Sheesh! > >And I'm *not* talking about that movie with Cher, Winona Ryder, >Christina Ricci, and Bob Hoskins either. That movie totally sucked. > >John "still can't stand mahi-mahi" Hedges - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 02:00:34 -0700 From: "Voodoo Ergonomics" Subject: Intestinal Oxidative Therapy well, lord knows why, but i ponied up $4.75 to see Attack Of The Clones. ouch! okay, i guess it must've been marginally better than Phantom Menace, because at least i managed to stay awake throughout the entirety of the movie (although this could just be because i was so busy laughing at the dialogue and acting). but considering the generally positive reviews, this is just shockingly bad. (then again, considering that it's george lucas, perhaps not so shocking.) screenplay/dialogue, acting, score: the lowest possible marks. the visuals not entirely horrible, even somewhat impressive in places (though way too antiseptic). but it's still *clearly* CGI (except in the "lake country" scenes, which are actually quite jarring in that they're *not* CGI). the movements of larger CGI characters *still* looks like claymation, even ten years after Jurassic Park. and, i mean, what's more convincing, the cityscapes in Attack Of The Clones, or in Blade Runner? the falling scenes in Attack, or in Hudsucker Proxy. etc.. maybe lucas should, instead of making episode three, just make Pokemon movies for the rest of his life. that's about the level he's working on. all right, some questions: - --if anakin has such a fucking hard-on for his mother, how come he didn't fucking visit (or, apparently, even attempt to correspond with) her even once in the ten years after leaving her? - --if padme was "elected" queen (whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean -- and don't they even know you can't stand for election to queen until you're 35 years old) of naboo, how did fucking leia get to be princess of alderaan? - --if anakin's such a fucking prodigy, how come he was trained by obi wan, rather than yoda (who claims in Empire Strikes Back that he's been training jedi for 800 years, or something like that)? or if anakin's such a fucking prodigy, how come he has not only not fulfilled the prophecy yet (muad'dib, after whom anakin is clearly modeled, fulfilled his prophecy by the time he was 14), but is more less a fucking schlub? or if anakin's such a fucking prodigy, why does he lie there sobbing like a little bitch as dooku beats the fuck out of obi wan? - --and if dooku's such a fucking bad-ass (nearly the equal of yoda), why didn't he just himself kill padme, obi wan, and anakin before the calvary arrived? - --how did palpatine get from being a fucking politician with no apparent jedi skillz to the fucking emperor of Empire Strikes Back and Return Of The Jedi fame? - --how come the fucking clones don't have free will? and how come the jedi (if not the politicians) have no ethical concerns over using the clones as fucking cannon fodder? and what kind of idiots contract to grow millions of clones without even asking for a fucking down payment? - --how come boba fett's got such a fucking chip on his shoulder? - --how come fucking obi wan and yoda send anakin out on a solo mission (let alone one of such import) before he's completed his training -- especially since they don't even fucking trust him? and why should they think padme would be safer being guarded by a fucking schlub who hasn't even fulfilled the prophecy yet than by accomplished jedi masters? - --is george lucas *completely* fucking surrounded by yes-men? was there not *one* person who could say to him, "george, i'm afraid this screenplay sucks *major* fucking wang, and the CGI looks like claymation."? and so on. this is just a small sampling of dozens -- maybe hundreds! -- of suchlike thoughts that occured to me during the screening. i guess it's best i just forget about it. heartily recommend the Dancer In The Dark dvd, though. . _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 10:12:37 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Intestinal Oxidative Therapy Critical genius, Eddie... One day I hope all film reviews will be like this! CHeers Matt >From: "Voodoo Ergonomics" >Reply-To: "Voodoo Ergonomics" >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Intestinal Oxidative Therapy >Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 02:00:34 -0700 > >well, >lord knows why, but i ponied up $4.75 to see Attack Of The Clones. >ouch! > >okay, i guess it must've been marginally better than Phantom Menace, >because at least i managed to stay awake throughout the entirety of >the movie (although this could just be because i was so busy >laughing at the dialogue and acting). but considering the generally >positive reviews, this is just shockingly bad. (then again, >considering that it's george lucas, perhaps not so shocking.) > >screenplay/dialogue, acting, score: the lowest possible marks. the >visuals not entirely horrible, even somewhat impressive in places >(though way too antiseptic). but it's still *clearly* CGI (except >in the "lake country" scenes, which are actually quite jarring in >that they're *not* CGI). the movements of larger CGI characters >*still* looks like claymation, even ten years after Jurassic Park. >and, i mean, what's more convincing, the cityscapes in Attack Of The >Clones, or in Blade Runner? the falling scenes in Attack, or in >Hudsucker Proxy. etc.. > >maybe lucas should, instead of making episode three, just make >Pokemon movies for the rest of his life. that's about the level >he's working on. > > >all right, some questions: > >--if anakin has such a fucking hard-on for his mother, how come he >didn't fucking visit (or, apparently, even attempt to correspond >with) her even once in the ten years after leaving her? > >--if padme was "elected" queen (whatever the fuck that's supposed to >mean -- and don't they even know you can't stand for election to >queen until you're 35 years old) of naboo, how did fucking leia get >to be princess of alderaan? > >--if anakin's such a fucking prodigy, how come he was trained by obi >wan, rather than yoda (who claims in Empire Strikes Back that he's >been training jedi for 800 years, or something like that)? or if >anakin's such a fucking prodigy, how come he has not only not >fulfilled the prophecy yet (muad'dib, after whom anakin is clearly >modeled, fulfilled his prophecy by the time he was 14), but is more >less a fucking schlub? or if anakin's such a fucking prodigy, why >does he lie there sobbing like a little bitch as dooku beats the >fuck out of obi wan? > >--and if dooku's such a fucking bad-ass (nearly the equal of yoda), >why didn't he just himself kill padme, obi wan, and anakin before >the calvary arrived? > >--how did palpatine get from being a fucking politician with no >apparent jedi skillz to the fucking emperor of Empire Strikes Back >and Return Of The Jedi fame? > >--how come the fucking clones don't have free will? and how come >the jedi (if not the politicians) have no ethical concerns over >using the clones as fucking cannon fodder? and what kind of idiots >contract to grow millions of clones without even asking for a >fucking down payment? > >--how come boba fett's got such a fucking chip on his shoulder? > >--how come fucking obi wan and yoda send anakin out on a solo >mission (let alone one of such import) before he's completed his >training -- especially since they don't even fucking trust him? and >why should they think padme would be safer being guarded by a >fucking schlub who hasn't even fulfilled the prophecy yet than by >accomplished jedi masters? > >--is george lucas *completely* fucking surrounded by yes-men? was >there not *one* person who could say to him, "george, i'm afraid >this screenplay sucks *major* fucking wang, and the CGI looks like >claymation."? > > > >and so on. this is just a small sampling of dozens -- maybe >hundreds! - -- of suchlike thoughts that occured to me during the >screening. i guess it's best i just forget about it. heartily >recommend the Dancer In The Dark dvd, though. > > >. > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:00:03 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Mermaids... On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, matt sewell wrote: > Absolutely - I've seen a REAL mermaid in Bembridge Maritime Museum on the > Isle of Wight. Actually it's more like Bembridge Maritime Cupboard.... > it's very small and has only about 3 exhibits, one of which is a mermaid, > caught in the Solent way, way back in the 1860s... it's an ugly little > thing, only about 8 inches long with an ugly little face, furry down to > the fish-tail (which definitely has scales). > Weirdly, though, it *does* look a little like Cher... > Hmm... I hate to be a spoilsport, but this sounds to me like a Jenny Haniver. - - see: There were some at a British Museum exhibition a few years ago, where the best exhibit was 2 Tanagra figurines. Everyone agreed that one was real and the other was a counterfeit, but the experts kept changing their mind about which was which. - - Mike "F for Fake" Godwin n.p. 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