From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #179 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, June 1 2002 Volume 11 : Number 179 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Book Query ["Glow Rose" ] Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Ged the Great (and various) [Randallriebe@aol.com] Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson [Stewart Russell ] Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson [steve ] Return of the giant jellyfish ["Brian Hoare" ] package, re-package, re-package [Jill Brand ] Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson [Christopher Gross ] Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson ["matt sewell" ] Nurse What? [The Great Quail ] touring can make you crazy ["ross taylor" ] Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson ["matt sewell" ] space ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson [Michael R Godwin ] Re: touring can make you crazy [Michael R Godwin ] Fun in the sun ["Glow Rose" ] ye gods [dmw ] Re: Return of the giant jellyfish [Tom Clark ] Re: the wee McGregor [Tom Clark ] Re: ye gods [steve ] Come on you En-ger-land! [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] clones, moans, and techno tones [Ken Ostrander ] reap [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:39:36 +0000 From: "Glow Rose" Subject: Book Query Does anyone know of a book that is a good overview of the history of the imagination in western civ? I can think of books which cover particular time periods or disciplines, but what Im looking for here is something that starts in the ancient world, goes to now, and covers -everything-, which in this case would mean religion, poetry, story in any form, magic, science, psychology, philosophy and art. At least;-) Kay, working on strenghtening her inner smugness _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 09:43:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson Any chance that the Sci Fi channel will rerun either of these? Yeah, I have time to waste. Jon > >two of 'em: Space 1999 and UFO. Both had moments that were pretty good, but > > Man, those shows ROCKED! It was like "Captain Scarlet," but bigger, > better, and with better puppets! UFO was great -- chicks with silver > bras and purple hair, a globe-spanning secret organization with subs > that turned into spaceships, and UFOs that liked Art-Deco gyroscopes! > I even had a UFO lunch kettle. > > And don't get me started on Space 1999! *More* purple-haired silvery > chicks, crazy-ass plots like Star Trek on peyote, and one of the > scariest hours of TV ever, when big rubber one-eyed orange aliens > took over the station, and gave of evil space-fumes that made > everyone believe they were seeing long-lost loved ones -- everyone > that is except for one guy, who had to pretend that the big, rubber, > one-eyed orange aliens were actually beloved relatives! Oh, I was so > scared. > > --Quail > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: > http://www.TheModernWord.com > > "Book! you lie there; the fact is, you books must know your places. > You'll do to give us the bare words and facts, but we come in to > supply the thoughts." > --Herman Melville, "Moby Dick" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 09:45:22 EDT From: Randallriebe@aol.com Subject: Ged the Great (and various) Hello, my name is Vince. I've been offline for a while doing what I do best.....listening to Rush, hunting, fishing, and watching Oliver Stone movies. It's good to be back, even though I'm on this horrid "AOL 1000 hours for Free!!!!" dealie I found on the street. I was able to catch up on a couple of things digging thru the Feg archives. - -Congrats to TGQ for seeing Nick Cave for the first time. I've seen him 3 times (not counting his appearences on Leno and Letterman) and yes, all have been amazing shows. Someone else mentioned his Lollapalooza show and I agree, it wasn't that good. In an interview he mentioned he hated doing it. The Bad Seeds are a solid, great band. - -I now live in a house with no water, and 2 cats. There's a park nearby so I manage to do my *business* there. heh. - -I haven't seen Atttack of the Clones or whatever that is. And I hope the Spiderman movie would have The Ramones version of the theme song, though I doubt it. - -The new Rush, Vapor Trails, is excellent. Big news, eh? Some have complained of the sound production, the lack of guitar solos, etc. But, they still sound like Rush, after all these years. This tour is going to be great. There are samples at www.rush.com. - -Who is this Robyn Hitchcock guy everyone has been talking about? Strange, I come back to this list, and everyone has suddenly started talking about him. Vince "Neil Peart is God" the Vincester ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:01:00 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson quail@libyrinth.com wrote > > And don't get me started on Space 1999! *More* purple-haired silvery > chicks, crazy-ass plots like Star Trek on peyote, and one of the > scariest hours of TV ever ... it can't be as scary as the sheet-metal robot Brian The Brain, voiced by Bernard Cribbins. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 09:03:09 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson On Friday, May 31, 2002, at 09:34 AM, The Great Quail wrote: > Man, those shows ROCKED! It was like "Captain Scarlet," but bigger, > better, and with better puppets! UFO was great -- chicks with silver > bras and purple hair, a globe-spanning secret organization with subs > that turned into spaceships, and UFOs that liked Art-Deco gyroscopes! And don't forget the great haircuts. - - Steve __________ Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse, the bumbling, tongue-tied Dick Armey announces his retirement as House majority leader and the shrewd, malevolent Tom DeLay, now Republican whip, moves quickly-and probably successfully-to succeed him. - Cragg Hines, Houston Chronicle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 15:04:45 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson Steady on, gang, now you've got me going on about 'Four Feather Falls'. I see from that Michael "The Story of My Life" Holliday provided Tex's singing voice, and he killed himself in ??? - ooh, a long time ago, anyway: so that programme must be even older than I remembered. Nicholas Parsons, who is still going strong, was Tex's ordinary voice, and Kenneth "Carry On" Connor did most of the other parts. Great show! Ah, mes braves! J'ai trouve des souvenirs photographique de Four Feather Falls a cette website Quebecois: Merveilleux! And incidentally, there is a photo of one of those purple-haired UFO floozies at F-A-B! - - Mike Mercury PS I found an old 60s "Dalek Pocketbook" (published by Granada?) amongst a pile of stuff the other day. Full technical details, but no explanation of how they coped with staircases. Think it's worth anything? PPS Re: 'Dead chuffed' - it means, you know, chuffed, only more so. We had a secretary 3 or 4 years ago who, when she was extremely harrassed, described herself as "dischuffed". Is this in wide usage, or just an idiosyncrasy? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 09:07:19 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson On Thursday, May 30, 2002, at 09:21 PM, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > But then I was 12 or so at the time - *maybe* there was more to the > shows > than that. There is at least 1 set of UFO DVDs, and a bunch of Space 1999. - - Steve __________ "When we were getting ready to announce for the 1992 campaign, the Bush people said to us, 'Don't run this time -- wait four years and you'll have a free pass. If you do run, we'll destroy you.' And I said to Bill, 'What are they talking about -- how could they do that?' And now we're finding out." - Hillary Clinton to David Talbot, March 1998 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 14:10:50 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Return of the giant jellyfish A long while back Matt wrote: >During a childhood fossick on Compton beach on the IOW, I found an >enormous blue jellyfish washed up in the shallows - the size of a dustbin >lid... Flicking through the Sun today I encountered a piece on jellyfish getting washed up around Bournemouth. "How big are they ?" I wonder, "The size of dustbin lids" the article tells me. But these are white. I don't know how the currents work around there but I suppose there's a chance they may cross Lyme bay and make Branscombe for the Jub. Brian, preparing to head for Lyme and then to St Keverne to sit out the jub. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:19:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: package, re-package, re-package Natalie wrote: "Not sure if I mentioned seeing Ray Davies in "concert" a while back. Entertaining but pandering pre-scripted blather about Ray's life, all building up to the climactic writing of "You Really Got Me." Pretty self-congratulatory stuff. Someone called out a request and he refused because it wasn't part of the script. Blah. And every song got a goddamn standing ovation from the slobbering crowd." I'm curious about which incarnation of Ray's solo show you saw. He's been flogging it since 1995, believe it or not. It was phenomenal in its generative stage (Fall '95) and in its first complete form (2.5+ hours) (Fall '96 and Spring '97), but now he is just making the motions. He's cut out a lot of the wonderful and obscure stuff (Animal Farm, the Moneygoround, for example) and has concentrated more on the hits. I went to see him yet again last September, and I felt much as you did. It felt empty. But really, when he first put the show together, although it wasn't spontaneous by any means, it was a lot fresher and a lot more interesting. Yes, yes, I'm biased (I've been starstruck by him for over 30 years), but the reviews of the those first two years were phenomenal from both the press and audiences. If he comes around with it again, I'm seriously contemplating not going. My feelings about Waterloo Sunset? Dayenu. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:29:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson On Fri, 31 May 2002, The Great Quail wrote: > >two of 'em: Space 1999 and UFO. Both had moments that were pretty good, but > > Man, those shows ROCKED! It was like "Captain Scarlet," but bigger, > better, and with better puppets! UFO was great -- chicks with silver > bras and purple hair, a globe-spanning secret organization with subs > that turned into spaceships, and UFOs that liked Art-Deco gyroscopes! > I even had a UFO lunch kettle. Oh my GOD, the memories! I watched and worshipped Captain Scarlet when I was real little -- like, 6 years old. I've long since forgotten all the plots, but a few details and images have always stayed with me, like the color-coded character names and the ground vehicles that were steered by a rear-facing driver using a TV screen. (Umm, these are real memories, right?) I saw Space:1999 a bit later, when I was 8 or 9 (ca. 1977), and loved it. I think I even had a toy Space:1999 ship. It was a bit disappointing to see it again as a teenager and find it much less exciting and fast-paced than I remembered. I'd probably enjoy it more if I watched it again now, but would I enjoy it as SF or as camp? However, I do not know this UFO of which ye speak. It's not the same as that Air Force "Project Blue Book" show, is it? Are there any recommended web sites? I doubt a google search for "UFO" would turn up what I want.... Speaking of Dr. Who (as we were a few weeks ago), I've heard it said that most people's favorite Doctor is the first one they saw. In my case it's true: I saw Tom Baker first, and he remained my favorite throughout my Dr. Who fan phase (ca. 1983-1987). Does this hold true for everyone? Nostalgicly, Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:01:29 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson >From: Christopher Gross > >Speaking of Dr. Who (as we were a few weeks ago), I've heard it said that >most people's favorite Doctor is the first one they saw. In my case it's >true: I saw Tom Baker first, and he remained my favorite throughout my Dr. >Who fan phase (ca. 1983-1987). Does this hold true for everyone? > This is the voice of the Mysterons.... No, in the Doctor: Which? question (see what I did there?!), the answer is unequivocal - Tom Baker is without a shadow of a doubt the best by a long way... I was just thinking that very same thought while watching The Invasion of Time (Sontarans invade Gallifrey in a fantastic 6-parter...).On a slightly-Gerry-Anderson-related note, a friend of mine years ago would have the tendency to totally freak out on acid - the only way of calming him down was to play him the theme tune to Stingray... Cheers Matt - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:14:24 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Nurse What? Chris writes, >However, I do not know this UFO of which ye speak. It's not the same as >that Air Force "Project Blue Book" show, is it? Not at all. >I've heard it said that >most people's favorite Doctor is the first one they saw. Does this >hold true for everyone? Not for me -- Tom Baker is my favorite, but I first saw Jon Pertwee. Here's a List -- for true blue geeks!!! -- of my faves in order. (Eb? Are you groaning yet?): Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Sylvester McCoy, Colin Baker, Jon Pertwee, Patrick Troughton, William Hartnell. (I never saw any McGann episodes!) - --Quailvros of the Quaileks ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:20:30 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: touring can make you crazy James, Jeffrey & Glen-- I assume y'all know the Beatles Covers list-- http://www2.wmin.ac.uk/clemenr/covers/covers.html Robyn comes up early on. - --- Space 1999 -- Well, this did have Barbara Bain. For some reason she caught my eye on Mission Impossible. by Space 1999 she was probably 2 or 3 intergalactic face-lifts along, which, w/ her limited acting range, made her seem like an inflatable actor, but who can explain these facinations we get? - --- Slow list, so: Latest Videos -- (the touring test ...) 200 Motels -- This is a *lot* better than I remembered. It must've been one of those films I saw at 2 a.m. in an unheated winter theater while I was crashing. It's on video transfered to film, which gives it a low-rent look, but but that works to its advantage in a way. There are some great images, the solarized-looking film is more interesting than I remembered & there are real dancers w/ [some] real choreography, not just freaks goofing around. Also some really beautiful music. I guess an earlier bad viewing put me off the record, which I'll get. To bad this isn't on DVD. Meeting People is Easy -- I'm not a huge Radiohead fan -- I've got OK Computer, but rarely listen to it -- but this is a very nice looking tour documentary. Not stunningly original, there's a prominant shot of a highway going into Thom's face that's like the end of Talking Heads' Burning Down the House video, but lots of neat science-fictiony footage. - --- Alice's Restaurant -- somehow missed this in the day & have been avoiding as silly nostagia since, but there's parts of a good movie here wrapped around a big piece of silly nostalgia. The story of Alice & Ray is a realistic movie about hippies made in their time, which seems unusual (to me). Most movies about hippies seem like cartoons -- sometimes beautiful cartoons, but here you get an idea of what these people were like rather than what their ideas about themselves were. Ray particularly reminds me of what I know about Ken Kesey. When Arlo Guthrie's on screen the interest goes down a lot, except when he's playing w/ Pete Seger who has a huge lit-from-within intensity. Conspirators of Desire -- my least favorite Jan Svankmeyer. It's mostly live actors for one thing, so you miss the feeling of non-stop invention in the more animated things. Basically it follows a bunch of people around as they set up weird fetishes & then satisfy themselves via said fetishes, which seems to make too ploddingly explicit something that was there in his other films. Plus it emphasizes his love of absurd repetition which was spooky in Alice or Faust but just seems boring here. Anyone here seen the new Importance of Being Earnest? Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:21:17 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson This is the voice of the Mysterons... No, in the Doctor: Which? question (see what I did there?!), the answer is unequivocal - Tom Baker is without a shadow of a doubt the best by a long way... I was just thinking that very same thought while watching The Invasion of Time (Sontarans invade Gallifrey in a fantastic 6-parter...). On a slightly-Gerry-Anderson-related note, a friend of mine years ago would have the tendency to totally freak out on acid - the only way of calming him down was to play him the theme tune to Stingray... Cheers Matt > >From: Christopher Gross > >Speaking of Dr. Who (as we were a few weeks >ago), I've heard it said that >most people's favorite Doctor is the first >one they saw. In my case it's >true: I saw Tom Baker first, and he >remained my favorite throughout my Dr. >Who fan phase (ca. 1983-1987). >Does this hold true for everyone? > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 08:33:54 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: space >two of 'em: Space 1999 and UFO. Both had moments that were pretty >good, >but only moments. I believe UFO featured Nick Drake's sister Gabrielle. >...one of the >scariest hours of TV ever, when big rubber one-eyed orange aliens >took over the station, and gave of evil space-fumes that made >everyone believe they were seeing long-lost loved ones -- everyone >that is except for one guy, who had to pretend that the big, rubber, >one-eyed orange aliens were actually beloved relatives! Oh, I was so >scared. That's from a Ray Bradbury story, "Mars is Heaven!" (Although Bradbury's aliens were not specified as being rubber, one-eyed or orange.) At least they plagiarized from the best. n. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:43:22 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Gerry & Sylvia Anderson On Fri, 31 May 2002, Christopher Gross wrote: > Speaking of Dr. Who (as we were a few weeks ago), I've heard it said that > most people's favorite Doctor is the first one they saw. In my case it's > true: I saw Tom Baker first, and he remained my favorite throughout my Dr. > Who fan phase (ca. 1983-1987). Does this hold true for everyone? No, I saw them from about Episode 2 or 3 (the cavemen, before Skaro, or Troilus and Cressida, or the Zarbi*) and although I liked William Hartnell, I was much more impressed with the great Patrick Troughton (Doctor no. 2). Jon Pertwee was a tremendous bore (particularly when teamed with the uninspiring Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart) but Baker really brought the show back to life. I think I would vote also for Tom Baker as the best. No idea what sort of alcoholic haze he is in nowadays, but he popped up on a Blackadder repeat the other day as a literally legless Elizabethan sea-captain. But even those were made in the 80s. *Just checked these at The cavemen were Season 1, Series 1 Nov-Dec 1963; Skaro was Season 1 Series 2 (early 1964); the Zarbi were Season 2, Series 5 (Spring 1965), and Troilus and Cressida were Season 3, Series 3 (late 1965). Interesting! - - MRG PS My mate Stuart was totally besotted with Deborah Watling. We were all compelled to watch those ones where the Daleks had her trapped in a country house. Sometimes it even made us late for the pub... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:57:50 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: touring can make you crazy On Fri, 31 May 2002, ross taylor wrote: > I assume y'all know the Beatles Covers list-- > http://www2.wmin.ac.uk/clemenr/covers/covers.html This is a new one on me. Which of those covers would you least like to hear? 'Hey Jude' by Sonny & Cher sounds fairly intimidating; or "I will" by Tim Curry? "I'm happy just to dance with you' by Anne Murray? 'In my life' by Joel Gray? And that's only the Hs and Is! - - MRG, still emotionally overloaded after seeing Viktoria Mullova playing the Mendelssohn Violin Concerto last night... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:23:11 +0000 From: "Glow Rose" Subject: Fun in the sun Finially, the perfect summer movie: http://www.somethingawful.com/article.php?id=172 "Your hair is reminiscent of a digesting yak." Surrealist compliment generator. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:54:38 -0400 (EDT) From: dmw Subject: ye gods sprach quailie: >> scariest hours of TV ever, when big rubber one-eyed orange aliens took over the station, and gave of evil space-fumes that made everyone believe they were seeing long-lost loved ones -- everyone that is except for one guy, who had to pretend that the big, rubber, one-eyed orange aliens were actually beloved relatives! Oh, I was so scared. << i don't see how this could be a patch on when gilligan falls asleep and dreams the skipper is a vampire video steve: >> There is at least 1 set of UFO DVDs, and a bunch of Space 1999. << dangerous information in the wrong hands. hell, in any hands. - -- d. (baker by a mile, but i only ever saw one or two with davison. but baker surely had the best "companions" ever, the delectable sarah jane and leela. (sp?) what was the deal with him trotting around the galaxy with galpals anyway? was that quite properly british and kid appropriate?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 10:50:51 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Return of the giant jellyfish on 5/31/02 7:10 AM, Brian Hoare at arrowodd@hotmail.com wrote: > A long while back Matt wrote: >> During a childhood fossick on Compton beach on the IOW, I found an >> enormous blue jellyfish washed up in the shallows - the size of a dustbin >> lid... > > Flicking through the Sun today I encountered a piece on jellyfish getting > washed up around Bournemouth. > > "How big are they ?" I wonder, > > "The size of dustbin lids" the article tells me. But these are white. I think that's one of those universal constants, like hail the size of golf balls. - -t "boobs the size of your head" c ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 11:00:12 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: the wee McGregor on 5/29/02 8:51 AM, matt sewell at matt_sewell@hotmail.com wrote: > Am I really the only one who thinks that Ewan McGregor is as ubiquitous > as he is talentless, the only one who is riled with every site of his > self-satisfied, smug, pug-ugly face, the only one to think that even > Britney Spears couldn't make a bigger bish of Ben "terrible Alec Guinness > impression" Kenobi? > > And I guess I'm also the only one who thinks that Trainspotting is a load > of over-rated rubbish, with EM giving a performance that rates alongside > a thunderbirds puppet... > I thought he was passable in Trainspotting. I saw "Shallow Grave" recently; he was pretty good in that one. Completely not interested in Star Wars, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 13:25:37 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: ye gods On Friday, May 31, 2002, at 11:54 AM, dmw wrote: > video steve: > There is at least 1 set of UFO DVDs, and a bunch of Space 1999. > > dangerous information in the wrong hands. hell, in any hands. That's what Amazon is good for. You'd have to pay me to watch Space 1999, but UFO is supercool. There is also a complete Captain Scarlet box, and a Thunderbirds Mega Set ($134.96) due on July 30. No Supercar, alas. - - Steve __________ Do you think Americans should ask God to grant George W. Bush the power to fly? House majority whip Tom DeLay, the ability to predict the future? Senate majority leader Tom Daschle, X-ray vision? In a prayer written for the National Day of Prayer, May 2, the Reverend Lloyd Olgivie, the Senate chaplain, asks God to "bless our President, Congress, and all our leaders with supernatural power." He didn't beseech God to endow them with strength and wisdom--a more reasonable request--but to make them superheroes. - David Corn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 19:42:27 +0100 (BST) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: Come on you En-ger-land! >Incidentally, Joe, if your reading this, >we're going to Branscombe! Never been to Branscombe, but Beatles fans should do a search on Alan Branscombe (alas, long dead and gone, but a strong presence in this household still) Big shame about RH's no-show on Monday. Anyway, fuck the Queen (she ain't no human bein') but I'm afraid I'm footy crazy... I'll be going to see Scotty Moore on Monday evening (following a resounding England victory v Sweden on Sun.), so long live the King instead. Crowbar Joe PS. Got Radio Autumn Attic. Best Newell so far I reckon, it marks a move out of the Partridge penumbra... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 16:23:36 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: clones, moans, and techno tones http://freezope.nipltd.com/zaphod/starwars saw ze clones this week and despite the wooden acting and cheesy lines, i thought it was light years better than episode one. the scenes between anakin and amidala were made less painful by the comments and noises from the crowd. i really enjoyed ewan's development of obi wan as the bumbling jedi master. i think hayden did a good job with making the pain and emotion believable and his suceptablity to the dark side more understandable. natalie will help a new generation of adolescents through puberty the way carrie did ours. say what you will about missing the old puppet yoda, the new yoda kicks ass. a tall order for any puppeteer, even malcovich. and then there's the cloning. why bother with children when you can just make a copy of yourself? oh yeah, because sex is fabulous. >> >Speaking of Dr. Who (as we were a few weeks >ago), I've heard it said that >most people's favorite Doctor is the first >one they saw. In my case it's >true: I saw Tom Baker first, and he >remained my favorite throughout my Dr. >Who fan phase (ca. 1983-1987). >Does this hold true for everyone? > it holds for me. my first exposure was to tom baker. i am constantly reminded of him when i look at my _blonde on blonde_. i still think that robyn would make a great incarnation of the doctor. my favorite star trek is the original and my favorite star wars is empire strikes back. >two of 'em: Space 1999 and UFO. Both had moments that were pretty >good, but only moments. my mom wouldn't let me watch space 1999. i never understood why. perhaps because it was a lot more freaky than star trek. >So who is this Moby guy? great-great grandnephew of herman melville. combines techno with as diverse elements as punk and gospel and manages to piss off lots of purists. he's a vegan, a christian, and an activist; for from the techno norm. the music can be really emotive. _play_ was a real achievement; but his new album _18_ retreads too much familiar territory. despite the extensive use of guest vocalists, there are too many piano bits that sound too much like the last album. as far as substance goes, just read some of his liner notes. http://www.moby.com/index2.html ken "Kenos Hispr, Redcougar of Marijuana" the kenster np readymades chumbawamba ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2002 01:49:52 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: reap Hansie Cronje, 32 James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #179 ********************************