From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #176 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, May 29 2002 Volume 11 : Number 176 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: A good year for music! [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Grateful Bread [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: oops [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Beatles' covers [glen uber ] Everyone considered him the clone of the county [glen uber ] Ruts, Robyn & Writers [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] jump ship for joy [drew ] email address update [Christopher Gross ] Re: Everyone considered him the clone of the county [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Je] neil finn ["melissa" ] Re: Everyone considered him the clone of the county [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Je] Ewan [Jill Brand ] Re: Ewan [Ken Weingold ] Re: Beatles' covers [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] bits [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Beatles' covers [glen uber ] Re: Beatles' covers [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Beatles' covers ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Finally saw Attack of the Clones (possible spoiler) [Steve Talkowski ] re: liam finn & robyn side by side? [*twofangs / rand* Subject: Re: A good year for music! > On Mon, 27 May 2002, Aaron Mandel wrote: > > > On Mon, 27 May 2002, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > > > > But then, it's your ears listening - so go to. > > > > If I'm remembering my Shakespeare correctly, "go to" means more like "up > > yours" than "go ahead". > > Good thing I'm not Shakespeare, then. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::part of your circuit of incompetence:: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:13:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Grateful Bread On Tue, 28 May 2002, glen uber wrote: > steve earnestly scribbled: > > >The generally dismal quality of America's mass-marketed pop music is an > >esthetic national emergency. - Lorraine Ali & David Gates, Newsweek > > Is the David Gates cited above the same David Gates who once fronted > Bread? If it is, I guess no one is more qualified than he to speak > authoritatively on the "dismal quality of America's mass-marketed pop > music," eh? Yes, he is. He also produced some early Captain Beefheart sessions. Rather a peculiar resume... But you know, even *Bread* is better than much of what oozes forth from radio speakers these days... - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::"am I being self-referential?":: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:18:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: oops On Tue, 28 May 2002, Jill Brand wrote: > P.S. Is anyone on this list old enough to remember Biff Rose? Weirdly (weird not that I'm old but that I remember), yeah. For some peculiar reason, the little suburban library in the town I grew up in had one of his records in stock. I was intrigued by it - I think it had some strange word in the title...and wasn't he mentioned in the liner notes to a Bowie album? I remember it didn't do much for the 10-12 year-old me - but that's about it. Sorta late-sixties/early-seventies singer-songwritery, right? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::I'M ONLY AS LARGE AS AN ANT AND I'M HIDING INSIDE YOUR CAR:: __cryptic placemat phrase, Madison WI, 1986__ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:31:19 -0700 From: glen uber Subject: Beatles' covers James Dignan earnestly scribbled: >Being a collector of Beatles cover versions (don't ask), I was very tempted. I had a radio show with a friend about 10 years back called "The Vinyl Resting Place", so named because that was "where music goes when you can't find it no mo'". We were on from 10pm to 1am Sunday nights on KTOB ("The Top of the Bay") in Petaluma, Calif. The show was really unstructured, but in essence, we would play album tracks, non-hits, B- Sides, imports and generally wacky shit. We'd also talk about issues of the day and try to educate all four of our listeners on various aspects of music history, production techniques and artist bios and discographies. Every now and then, we'd have a theme night. One night the theme was Beatles' covers. IIRC, the tracks included "Day Tripper" by Mae West, "I'm Down" by Adrian Belew, "Got To Get You Into My Life" by Earth, Wind & Fire, "Hey Jude" by Wilson Pickett, "Something" by Elvis and several others. The show was 3 hours long, so we must have played around 30 songs. FWIW: In the 15 months that the show was on the air, we only played three songs more than once: Our opening theme, the Nitty Gritty Drit Band's version of "Teddy Bear's Picnic"; our closing theme, "25 O'Clock" by the Dukes of Stratosphear; and "Spirit Groove" by Mandre which we played at midnight as the old day transitioned to the new day. - -- Cheers! - -g- "Start your own revolution and cut out the middle man." - --Billy Bragg glen uber =+= blint (at) mac dot com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:01:33 -0700 From: glen uber Subject: Everyone considered him the clone of the county You HAVE to check out this hilarious site. It's waaaayyy funnier than mulletsgalore.com. That's sooooo 2001, y'know? http://www.menwholooklikekennyrogers.com/ - -- Cheers! - -g- "In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments -- there are Consequences." - --R.G. Ingersoll glen uber =+= blint (at) mac dot com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:23:43 -0700 From: glen uber Subject: Like father, not at all like son Russ earnestly scribbled: >That's certainly what it looked like...but from what I saw it appeared to be >a draw. I hope to God this doesn't mean there'll be a rematch some day. Yeah, me neither. It got me thinking, though. The only man whose gotten further on his father's name than Hank Jr. is George W. Bush. The only difference is at least W knew his father. Hank Jr. was only 3 when his died, so everything he's ever sung about the man rings hollow. He's a poseur and an opportunist and he has no right to even call himself Hank Jr. considering his given name is Randall. While we're on the subject, when is ABC going to look into getting someone different to do the Monday Night Football theme song? There are plenty of washed-up country-rock singers who would jump at the opportunity to succeed Bocephus as the maestro of Monday night. When I hear his voice over the opening credits, I always think NASCAR, not NFL. I hear Bob Seger's looking for work now that Chevrolet has dumped the "Like A Rock" campaign. - -- Cheers! - -g- "When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading." - --Henny Youngman glen uber =+= blint (at) mac dot com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 21:25:11 +0100 (BST) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: Ruts, Robyn & Writers Someone wrote... >I can't find that on amazon.de. Is it brand->new? There is a Galatea 2.2 by >Richard Powers, Powers is a feg writer par excellence. Geeky, quirky, amusing, intelligent, humane. Gosh, I'm gushing... Galatea 2.2 is about attempts by an English prof and a scientist to create a computer programme which could sit an Eng Lit paper and convince the examiner IT (ho,ho...) was human. Turing territory... The Goldbug Variations manages to entangle, DNA, JS Bach, EA Poe and a sublime love story or two. Brilliant stuff. On the Paul Fox front. I reckon he was one of, if not *the* best guitarist of the Brit punk/new wave. The Ruts were a fantastic band. The Crack is a genius album. Finally, what's happened to the June 3rd Dulwich gig someone mentioned????...It's not on the Rob-site. Crowbar Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:35:34 -0700 From: drew Subject: jump ship for joy > From: Jeff Dwarf > > a lot of the problems with OTIE and SAFJ are probably > related to both being albums made by bands fronted by women who were > looking to jump ship I can buy that, sure...except that (and I might be misremembering) it seemed like a lot of the songs on Our Time In Eden, and especially the ones I disliked, were credited solely to Natalie Merchant, and at the time I blamed her for the album's faults. In light of her bland solo career, that might have been accurate, but then again look at the post-Merchant Maniacs. Hard to tell. On Our Time In Eden there aren't really any songs that stand out. I always liked "These Are Days," and "Few and Far Between" is okay if a little too exuberant, but the rest of it revolted me where it was supposed to move me for the most part, and was altogether just too bland and samey for my taste. On Stick Around For Joy I adore "Walkabout" and "Hetero Scum" and tolerate "Hit" and that's just about it. > Then again, I happen to really like Queen Elvis. it's Globe of Frogs I > actively am disappointed in. I'm incapable of being objective about Globe of Frogs because it was My First Robyn album. I think Queen Elvis definitely has its moments, and "Madonna of the Wasps" is my favorite Robyn song that I always forget exists, but the whole has just never worked for me. I can imagine new arrangements for a lot of the tunes that would make me really happy, though. > From: "Natalie Jane" > Oh, so you saw the special edition that doesn't have Ewan McGregor in > it? > :P (Although judging by the promo picture I saw, Ewan looks a bit podgy > this time around...) Ewan's not my type, but his "does this look like Alec Guinness?" facial hair wouldn't have worked for me in any event this time out. > I'm sympathetic to both viewpoints too, and I think both songs blow. Come on, Natalie, tell us how you really feel. :) > "Wrapped in Grey" has a smarmy, > "inspirational" quality to it Okay, yes, granted. Of course, one poor sick gnat's smarm is another lunching drew's sunshine, and probably vice versa. > From: Ken Weingold > Very cool to see Owen and > Beru's place from Star Wars, too. Owen and Beru (at Episode-II-age) were both my type. What cuties. And Jango was kind of a hunk too, I thought. Not a bad choice for a clone-ee. > Not even that he walked with a cane, yet was quite > agile during the fight, but IIRC, he never really touched the ground. It's the force, man. > It was the intro dialog to the fight. Too freakin' stupid. Yeah, well, all of the "come get some" lines were straight out of the WWF. > From: Sebastian Hagedorn > > - --On Tuesday, May 28, 2002 03:11:21 -0400 "*twofangs / rand*" > wrote: > >> Has anyone heard Liam and Neil do the Beatles "Two Of Us"? > > Better than Aimee Mann & Michael Penn on the I Am Sam soundtrack?? Impossible. But, James, Cave's "Let It Be" is no great shakes. > From: Steve Talkowski > > On Tuesday, May 28, 2002, at 03:08 AM, Ken Weingold wrote: > >> And I noticed a lot of people really liking the asteroid field >> explosions. I found them >> really odd, how there was complete silence before each one, then boom. >> First I thought it was a screw-up, but the second one was the same. >> Why was that? > > Think of it as sonic distortion. You expect to hear the sound early, > but because of the intense magnitude the sound takes awhile to reach the > viewers "ears". I particularly enjoyed that sound effect - it was > quite, er, effective. It's cool, but it makes even less sense than just a regular explosion. The idea must have been light traveling more quickly than sound, but of course sound doesn't travel through space at all. > From: "ross taylor" > > Dark Green Energy is a big fav of mine, w/ or > without Stipe, it could replace most things on > PI. I hate it, but that may be because I've only heard the version with Stipe, who I think sounds horrible on it. He sounds fine on "She Doesn't Exist," but I always reach for the skip button on "DGE" about the time he sings "just like a boil." It's a very Hitchcock rhyme and it sounds very un-Stipe and the effect is ludicrous (For Me, anyway). I can sort of envision a decent arrangement, but I'm not strongly motivated to. ["She Doesn't Exist"] > as long as I stick w/ > my interpretation that she isn't physically dead That's always been mine as well. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:43:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: email address update Hey Fegs -- This is just to let you all know that from now on you can ONLY email me at this address, ie, . The old address, ending in @gwis2.circ.gwu.edu, will stop working soon. Confusingly enough, the old address was still the return address on all emails I sent until last Friday; so if you've just thought of the perfect reply to some nasty email I sent you a month or two or 32 ago, you'll have to type in chrisg@gwu.edu instead of just using the reply command. That is all. - --Chris np: Buffy musical mp3s ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:53:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Everyone considered him the clone of the county On Tue, 28 May 2002, glen uber wrote: > You HAVE to check out this hilarious site. It's waaaayyy funnier than > mulletsgalore.com. That's sooooo 2001, y'know? > > http://www.menwholooklikekennyrogers.com/ I used to work for the city of Madison in the late 1980s. At the time, the coroner looked just *freakishly* like Kenny Rogers. I think I found a photo of him and did up a poster... If I remember correctly, he was the guy shot and killed the day Crazy TV Lenny Saved My Life: One Friday afternoon, I took off work at noon to buy a tapedeck at American TV (Wisconsinites will remember Crazy TV Lenny, their obligatory loud spokesman). I get home with my new tapedeck, and set off to meet Rose and her cow-orkers from the for many beers at a local bar (our Friday evening ritual at the time). So I walk in, and the first response is, "Oh good - you're not dead." Since non-sequiturs were common, I concurred - and then it was explained to me: some crazed guy had gone into the building I worked in and had shot a bunch of people. I'd had no clue - I hadn't had a radio or TV on. I found out later the shootings took place only a hundred yards or so from where I worked. Had I been there, and walking around the hallways, you might all be free of my posts... Aaron Mandel might remember some of this - although he would have been fairly young at the time... - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Oxygen isn't a text:: __David Robbins__ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 20:57:10 -0000 From: "melissa" Subject: neil finn is anyone in dc going to his show at the 9:30? melissa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:28:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Everyone considered him the clone of the county On Tue, 28 May 2002, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > On Tue, 28 May 2002, glen uber wrote: > > > http://www.menwholooklikekennyrogers.com/ > > I used to work for the city of Madison in the late 1980s. At the time, the > coroner looked just *freakishly* like Kenny Rogers. I think I found a > photo of him and did up a poster... > > If I remember correctly, he was the guy shot and killed... Nope. I got curious - the guy I'm thinking of is the *successor* to the guy who was shot. Scroll down this page to see the "Kenny" lookalike: http://members.tripod.com/~Blulady/3/memoryofbud3.html Oh - and note the surname of the killer...guess we oughta be careful about guys with that name, eh? - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Let's quit talking about it and start watching it on TV:: __Susan Lowry__ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 17:28:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Ewan I wrote and Natalie replied: >I went to see Star Wars II yesterday and did like it better than Phantom >Menace. One thing that I found somewhat unfair is that we got female eye >candy but no male counterpart. >Oh, so you saw the special edition that doesn't have Ewan McGregor in it? >:P (Although judging by the promo picture I saw, Ewan looks a bit podgy >this time around...) I couldn't have said it better. Ewan McGregor (the one I have seen in other movies like Brassed Off and Little Voice and Velvet Goldmine - the one who can act) was not in the movie. Some automaton was, however. But ask Ken. Ken, did Ewan match up to Natalie P.? There, you see? Jill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 17:45:15 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Ewan On Tue, May 28, 2002, Jill Brand wrote: > I couldn't have said it better. Ewan McGregor (the one I have seen in > other movies like Brassed Off and Little Voice and Velvet Goldmine - the > one who can act) was not in the movie. Some automaton was, however. But > ask Ken. Ken, did Ewan match up to Natalie P.? There, you see? In what respect? :) I love Ewan. He's awesome, ever since I saw Trainspotting. I loved his comment in the Phantom Menace DVD extras. When he falls off some platform onto a mattress, he says with a shit-eating grin something like, "And they said, 'So you want to be in Star Wars?' Fucking well right!" :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 10:51:18 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Beatles' covers >>Being a collector of Beatles cover versions (don't ask), I was very tempted. > >One night the theme was >Beatles' covers. IIRC, the tracks included "Day Tripper" by Mae West, >"I'm Down" by Adrian Belew, "Got To Get You Into My Life" by Earth, Wind >& Fire, "Hey Jude" by Wilson Pickett, "Something" by Elvis and several >others. The show was 3 hours long, so we must have played around 30 songs. yikes! I never knew Mae West covered "Day tripper"! I once counted up that I had about 150 Beatles covers in my collection, from the execrable Richard Cocciante version of "Michelle" (imagine a cross between Charles Aznavour and Barry White at their worst), through Alice Donut's trombone(?) led version of "Helter Skelter" and Suggs's ska version of "I'm only sleeping", to the Eno-led 801 version of "Tomorrow never knows". James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 11:11:38 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: bits >>My copy of One All should be sitting on my desk at work, along with a >>new(!) John Foxx album that I learned about on Chalkhills (good for >>something after all). > >I learned about Peter Blegvad on Chalkhills. On the other hand, he never >seemed to enjoy much popularity there. Not "quirky" enough, possibly. and I learned of Martin Newell >>me too - and the trick with TBCK is to imagine it sung by Jethro Tull. >>Works every time for me. >> > >Sort of Jack Frost and the Hooded Black Crow Knows? exactly :) TBCK always sounds like it could have fitted onto "Songs from the Wood" or "Broadsword and the Beast" quite easily. Mike led us from 0-4-4Ts to Pullmans in his post, and made some lyric comments - I agree wholeheartedly with his thoughts of a recording angel being the explanation of the 'every cloud' lyric. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:48:28 -0700 From: glen uber Subject: Re: Beatles' covers James Dignan earnestly scribbled: >>>Being a collector of Beatles cover versions (don't ask), I was very tempted. >> >>One night the theme was >>Beatles' covers. IIRC, the tracks included "Day Tripper" by Mae West, >>"I'm Down" by Adrian Belew, "Got To Get You Into My Life" by Earth, Wind >>& Fire, "Hey Jude" by Wilson Pickett, "Something" by Elvis and several >>others. The show was 3 hours long, so we must have played around 30 songs. > >yikes! I never knew Mae West covered "Day tripper"! I once counted up that >I had about 150 Beatles covers in my collection, from the execrable Richard >Cocciante version of "Michelle" (imagine a cross between Charles Aznavour >and Barry White at their worst), through Alice Donut's trombone(?) led >version of "Helter Skelter" and Suggs's ska version of "I'm only sleeping", >to the Eno-led 801 version of "Tomorrow never knows". Ah, yes. Thanks for the kick in the brain. We played Phil Collins' "Tomorrow Never Knows" as well as the aforementioned Suggs tune as well. Others we played that have sprung to mind since my original post are Bela Fleck & the Flecktones' "Michelle", Jeff Beck's "She's A Woman" and Eddie "Maggot Brain" Hazel's 9 1/2 minute version of "I Want You (She's So Heavy)". - -- Cheers! - -g- "Youth is a marvelous thing. What a shame to waste it on children." - --George Bernard Shaw glen uber =+= blint (at) mac dot com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:37:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Beatles' covers On Wed, 29 May 2002, James Dignan wrote: > >>Being a collector of Beatles cover versions (don't ask), I was very tempted. > yikes! I never knew Mae West covered "Day tripper"! I once counted up that Izzat on one o' them there "Golden Throats" comps Rhino put out? I don't actually *collect* Beatles covers - but it's fun to find new ones. Recently, knowing of my dark hidden shame (i.e., that I have a soft spot for '70s prog rock - but *not* ELP praise be...), a friend sent along a 2CD-R set of a Yes show from 1976 (Roosevelt Stadium, for anyone else who might care), during which they encored with a cover of "I'm Down." They did it pretty straight - not as if they rearranged it into 11/8 and added a five-minute bass solo or anything - but Jon Anderson is not Paul McCartney. Just in case anyone who hadn't seen them in the same room together was wondering. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::playing around with the decentered self is all fun and games ::until somebody loses an I. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:59:43 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: Beatles' covers > They did it pretty straight - not as if they rearranged it into 11/8 and > added a five-minute bass solo or anything - but Jon Anderson is not Paul > McCartney. > Just in case anyone who hadn't seen them in the same room together was > wondering. Hmm, I haven't seen Paul but I certainly hope he's taller. I did see Yes on one of those horrible Spinal-Tap-couldn't-have-been-more-dead-on-the-money reunion tours where Jon was dressed as Stevie Nicks and Chris Squire was dressed, incongruously enough, as a green elf. A very large green elf. In matching knee-high green boots, with those little watchmacallit flares coming off the top back. In a brief flurry of guilt at using 'watchmacallit flares' instead of actually finding out what they're called, I made a search on Yahoo for "medieval footwear." And people wonder why I love the internet. http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/shoe/SHOEHOME.HTM Michael "check out the links page, it's fantastic" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 21:54:58 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Finally saw Attack of the Clones (possible spoiler) On Tuesday, May 28, 2002, at 01:41 PM, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > At 12:59 PM 5/28/2002 -0400, Ken Weingold wrote: > >> > Think of it as sonic distortion. You expect to hear the sound early, >> > but because of the intense magnitude the sound takes awhile to reach >> the >> > viewers "ears". I particularly enjoyed that sound effect - it was >> > quite, er, effective. >> >> Huh. I can understand that, but it sounded like EVERYTHING went >> silent before. Do you see what I'm saying? > > That happened when I saw it too . As I remember it, all the sound > (ambient ship sounds, music - if there was any - etc.) completely cut > out for a second or two, and then the sound of the blast hit, after the > explosion, and everything turned back on. But, it was very jarring, > not smooth at all, as if somebody had hit a mute button on and off, or > the digital audio device clipped. Can't believe it was intentional. > If it was, it didn't work. No no, that WAS the intended effect. The magnitude of the blast was so large that it cancelled out the sound wave for an instance. I thought it was way cool and immediately "got" the intended effect. It's odd (to me) how others can interpret it as a mistake... Stewart Russel wrote: > Quoth Alex Cox: "In the case of Attack of the Clones, quality may not matter much since (a) almost all the shots are special effects > shots done mainly by computer, and (b) the film is shite." I always have to laugh at ill-informed comments such as (a) because people who make the claim fail to realize there are always flesh 'n' bone artists instructing the computer what to do - not the other way around. And, I still have to explain to people that 3d animation doesn't involve drawing in the traditional sense - it's more analogous to stop-motion, setting keyframes on a virtual character that is "rigged" with a virtual skeleton that needs to be set up very similarly as to a real one. As for (b), well, that's purely a subjective matter and a dead horse that's past beaten by now... - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 00:01:53 -0400 From: *twofangs / rand* Subject: re: liam finn & robyn side by side? > Sebastian wrote: > > On Tuesday, May 28, 2002 "*twofangs / rand*" wrote: > > > Has anyone heard Liam and Neil do the Beatles "Two Of Us"? > > > It's terrific. > > said sebastian: Better than Aimee Mann & Michael Penn on the I Am Sam > soundtrack?? It rivals it for sure. And I am a *huge* Penn and Mann fan. There's a quality to the Liam/Neil version that makes it better ~ it's certainly more "tuneful" than the Mann/Penn version ... Aimee's harmonies are not as sweet as those of the father and son team ... imho. When I downloaded the Finn/Finn song - it said it was from the "I Am Sam" Soundtrack. I wonder if it was in the film - which I stayed away from - or on an Australian version of the soundtrack? Maybe someone knows? I have the soundtrack from the film. I like most of the tracks. James ... indulge your temptation :-} Gee - you deserve it after selling so much art! There's a version of "Julia" on the soundtrack I could live without - but all in all it's pretty good ... imo. And thanks for the Flying Nun info James. Glen ... your old radio show sounds cool. ... sending postcards ...writing letters ... Randi Toronto, Ontario, Canada *what scares you most will set you free* ~ Robyn Hitchcock *by endurance we conquer* ~ Sir Ernest Shackleton *you and I have memories longer than the road that stretches out ahead* ~ Lennon / McCartney ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:55:06 +0100 From: "Matt Browne" Subject: RE: liam finn & robyn side by side? Ahoy there! The soundtrack CD to I Am Sam seems to be a weird one, because there appears to be no fewer than four different releases of it. These are: * 17-track version, not including Neil and Liam Finn, which may have the same catalogue number as the 20-track release. * 19-track version, including Neil and Liam Finn, that has that protection that won't let it play on PCs. (V2 Cat VVR1019418) * 20-track version, including Neil and Liam, that says it won't play on PCs, but in fact will. (V2 Cat VVR1019412) * 21-track version, including Neil and Liam, from Japan. (V2 Cat V2CP122), available from hmv.co.jp, which *may* include copy protection. Apparently there's also a CD release of John Powell's original score pending. - -- Matt Browne > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of *twofangs / rand* > Sent: 29 May 2002 05:02 > To: *sebastian hagedorn*; *james so far away from me*; *globe of fegs* > Subject: re: liam finn & robyn side by side? > > > > Sebastian wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, May 28, 2002 "*twofangs / rand*" wrote: > > > > > Has anyone heard Liam and Neil do the Beatles "Two Of Us"? > > > > > It's terrific. > > > > said sebastian: Better than Aimee Mann & Michael Penn on > the I Am Sam > > soundtrack?? > > It rivals it for sure. > > And I am a *huge* Penn and Mann fan. > > There's a quality to the Liam/Neil version that makes it > better ~ it's certainly more "tuneful" than the Mann/Penn > version ... Aimee's harmonies are not as sweet as those of > the father and son team ... imho. > > When I downloaded the Finn/Finn song - it said it was from > the "I Am Sam" Soundtrack. > > I wonder if it was in the film - which I stayed away from - > or on an Australian version of the soundtrack? > > Maybe someone knows? ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #176 ********************************