From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #175 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, May 28 2002 Volume 11 : Number 175 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re:that thing you sang ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: A good year for music! ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #174 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] oops [Jill Brand ] Re: sucky like a FOX [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: A good year for music! [steve ] chasing Brenda crazy ["Natalie Jane" ] mike & robyn [*twofangs / rand* ] liam finn & robyn side by side? [*twofangs / rand* ] Re: liam finn & robyn side by side? [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Finally saw Attack of the Clones (possible spoiler) [Steve Talkowski ] Re: you know my name, look up the number [Michael R Godwin ] RE: Finally saw Attack of the Clones (possible spoiler) ["Timothy Reed" <] Re: Finally saw Attack of the Clones (possible spoiler) [Ken Weingold ] Re: Finally saw Attack of the Clones (possible spoiler) ["Jason R. Thornt] Re: Finally saw Attack of the Clones (possible spoiler) [Stewart Russell ] Grateful Bread [glen uber ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 20:43:06 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re:that thing you sang randi aksed: > "The Wonders" - the band formed in the Tom Hanks directed flick "That > Thing You Do" - the vocalist is some cool well know singer I think - but > I can't remember his name and I don't have the time to look it up. > > If anyone knows off the top of their heads ... email me s.v.p. That would be Mike Viola, who recently elicited the following range of comments by concert-going fegs who saw him open for robyn Hitchcock. eclipse: > i can't say i really cared for >Mike Viola's set - it was ok, but didn't really capture me drew: > I think most of us were of the same opinion. My take was > that his playing and his melodies were pretty decent, but > that his affected vocal style and his lyrics were not too hot. tom: > Oh, and the names "Mike Viola" and "Graham Parker" should never be uttered > in the same breath. Blasphemy!!! from Mike Wells: > Mike Viola's > opening set got a deserved ear from the crowd, his slower stuff especially was > quite strong I thought. jason: > not great but he certainly didn't make me want to leave which is all ask > for from an opening act. nick: > My thumbs up, too, for Mike Viola. Nice pop-y Squeeze-ish songs with > slightly twisted lyrics. brandon: > another solo artist with guitar, but he lost my interest after a few > songs. Kept finding new rhymes for "porno". this trip down memory lane was brought to you by... - -rUss. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 20:51:26 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: A good year for music! Aaron: > If I'm remembering my Shakespeare correctly, "go to" means more like "up > yours" than "go ahead". you've got to be kidding. - -rUss, watching Juliet implode ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:14:06 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #174 >p.s. - who could Robyn team up with other than Grant? his 'former drummer' :) Neil Finn? James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 00:26:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: oops I wrote "seen" instead of "scene" in my last post. English sucks when you are tired. Jill P.S. Is anyone on this list old enough to remember Biff Rose? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 21:43:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: sucky like a FOX drew wrote: > > From: *twofangs / rand* > [Paul Fox] > > > Here's a quick bio courtesy the AMG: > > > [...] > > His production career began with XTC's 1989 album Oranges and > Lemons, > > followed in 1991 by Robyn Hitchcock's Perspex Island. In 1992, Fox > > enjoyed his most successful year to date, helming not only 10, 000 > > Maniacs' smash Our Time in Eden but also the Sugarcubes' swan song > Stick > > Around for Joy. > [...] > > later he returned with They Might Be Giants' John Henry > > How interesting...except for Oranges and Lemons (my first XTC record, > and full of excellent songs) and Perspex Island (I dislike Queen > Elvis more) these are my least favorite studio albums by all > concerned. I'll amplify: I actively disliked Our Time In Eden, > Stick Around for Joy, and John Henry, save for one or two songs from > each, and each of them turned me off to the artists who released them > at least briefly. I don't know much about how records are made; what > could a producer do to yield such consistently unimpressive (to me) > results from otherwise talented artists? i swear i have no vested interest in the career and fortunes of Paul Fox. really. but... dunno about TMBG since I've never been a big fan (nor detractor for that matter), but a lot of the problems with OTIE and SAFJ are probably related to both being albums made by bands fronted by women who were looking to jump ship, and whether conciously or not, neither Natalie Merchant or Bjork gave much on either, and the bands sound pretty lackluster as well. i don't know if either is Fox's fault or not -- there are probably producers who could have drawn out more in both cases. but both of those albums were probably somewhat doomed from day one. of the five Paul Fox produced albums I have, I am very fond of two: Oranges and Lemons, and Too Much Joy's _Cereal Killers,_; I think PI is a middling RH album, but certainly very listenable, and OTIE and SAFJ I basically keep for the few songs on each I like (and to be completist in the sugarcubes case). so he's at least one up on Stephen Fooking Hague. Then again, I happen to really like Queen Elvis. it's Globe of Frogs I actively am disappointed in. ===== "This week, the White House says President Bush meant no disrespect when he referred to the Pakistani people as 'Pakis.' But just to be on the safe side, White House staffers have cancelled his trip to Nigeria" -- Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 23:53:27 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: A good year for music! On Monday, May 27, 2002, at 03:10 PM, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >> The green marker was an actual hi-fi tweak, although I'm not sure if >> such tweaks are a step above or below urban legends. People were >> looking for *anything* to make CDs sound better. > > Not sure what you mean by "actual": that people actually tried it (true) > or that it actually worked to improve the sound. Cuz it's that aspect of > things that I thought had been pretty definitively debunked and placed > in the "urban legends" file. Problem is, since there's not really an > objective definition of "better sound," if you really want to believe > that > your CDs sound better after the green-marker treatment, they probably > will. To you. Even if an oscilloscope detects no difference at all. I think that green marker use actually tricked down (out?) to the general public from hi-fi tweakers. Tweaking may be on the decline, as high end stereo components seem to be much less in need of tweaking these days. I haven't noticed a really hot tweak pop up in any of the hi-fi mags in quite a while, although there are some expensive little objects that you can buy that are said to dampen unwanted sound waves. > But then, it's your ears listening - so go to. Never tried the green marker, but I did buy a few of the stabilizer rings. - - Steve ________ The generally dismal quality of America's mass-marketed pop music is an esthetic national emergency. - Lorraine Ali & David Gates, Newsweek ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 22:35:44 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: chasing Brenda crazy >My copy of One All should be sitting on my desk at work, along with a >new(!) John Foxx album that I learned about on Chalkhills (good for >something after all). I learned about Peter Blegvad on Chalkhills. On the other hand, he never seemed to enjoy much popularity there. Not "quirky" enough, possibly. >I guess I'm out of the mainstream, but I really like Robyn's A&M albums. I can't say "me too," so I shall say "moi aussi" instead. Though "Perspex Island" really is kinda iffy, there's some good songs on it. >For example, the easiest thing for him to do is write song titles. > >He wakes up at 7 a.m. every day and writes down song titles before he >even picks up his guitar. Oh man - here's a misguided idea for collaboration... Bob Pollard employs a similar "titles-first" method of songwriting - what if he and Robyn exchanged lists of titles? The results could be horrific! Or terrific! Or something! >I went to see Star Wars II yesterday and did like it better than Phantom >Menace. One thing that I found somewhat unfair is that we got female eye >candy but no male counterpart. Oh, so you saw the special edition that doesn't have Ewan McGregor in it? :P (Although judging by the promo picture I saw, Ewan looks a bit podgy this time around...) I'm sympathetic to both viewpoints; >I just happen to enjoy the music of "Wrapped In Grey" far more. I'm sympathetic to both viewpoints too, and I think both songs blow. But while "The Last Balloon" is simply boring, "Wrapped in Grey" has a smarmy, "inspirational" quality to it which would make me want to lose my lunch, if I had actually eaten lunch today, which I didn't, since I have been sick in bed all day. The 48 hr Movie that I was involved with ended up being more like a 52 hr movie due to some post-production problems, but it was a work of scintillating incoherence nevertheless. I got to play a "lesser deity" and an alien with tinfoil horns; the latter role will surely come back to haunt me when I run for public office. Unfortunately I was denied a dramatic "floating head" scene like the other "lesser deity" got. Oh well. sweatily, n. p.s. I got a ticket to see Quasi on Friday - the ticket is printed on sparkly bronze die-cut cardstock with a pink plastic knife inexplicably tied to it. Huh. (No, I did not get this through Ticketmaster.) _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 02:53:49 -0400 From: *twofangs / rand* Subject: mike & robyn > I asked: > "The Wonders" - the band formed in the Tom Hanks directed flick "That > Thing You Do" - the *real* vocalist is some cool well know singer I think - but > I can't remember his name and I don't have the time to look it up. Wow. Interesting responses. Max said it was Mike Viola of the Candy Butchers. Mr. Russ Reynolds told me Mike opened up for Robyn. Coincidence? I think not. Russ shared with me some feg opinions of Mike. Guess no one really dug him. Usually Robyn has cool acts with him ... I saw Matthew Sweet and Poi Dog Pondering open up for Robyn. (sorry - too late for my brain to remember more acts) So Mike Viola kinda sucked. Maybe that's why I can't get any of his or Candy Butchers' songs of winmx. ;-} fading back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Randi Toronto, Ontario, Canada *what scares you most will set you free* ~ Robyn Hitchcock *by endurance we conquer* ~ Sir Ernest Shackleton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 03:11:21 -0400 From: *twofangs / rand* Subject: liam finn & robyn side by side? James spoke: > I was recently (is this a complicated sentence, or what?) much delighted to > discover that "The Alphabetchadupa", the first album by Liam Finn's band > Betchadupa, is pretty damn good. It's not up to his dad's standards, but it's still > well worth a listen. Has anyone heard Liam and Neil do the Beatles "Two Of Us"? It's terrific. I saw Liam play in his dad's band a few years ago, I think we figured out Liam was 16 at the time. When did Neil join Split Enz - when he was 19? Earlier? So I guess I have to start searching for Liam in record stores. I have a feeling it's not available in Canada. Hhhmmm. Wish "Betchadupa" would open up for the Robyn tour or perhaps the Soft Boys tour. fading back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Randi Toronto, Ontario, Canada *what scares you most will set you free* ~ Robyn Hitchcock *by endurance we conquer* ~ Sir Ernest Shackleton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 03:08:14 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Finally saw Attack of the Clones (possible spoiler) I finally saw it the other night. Went to the Ziegfeld Theater in NYC. I wanted the full digital video and good audio. The audio was good there, but the bass was severely lacking. As for the movie, I liked it. Definitely more than the first one. I am glad that if Jar Jar had to be in it, at least he was toned down. A friend of mine had a good point that Lucas probably put him in in that manner to save face, as opposed to totally leaving him out. Anakin I thought was pretty awkward. I didn't like the actor, but I don't think he was terrible. I found some of the scenes with him and Amidala pretty cheesy, and what was really funny was at one point when they were by the fire and Anakin said something fairly cheesy, a baby in the audience screamed. And speaking of Amidala, I think I am more in love with Natalie than ever. :) I liked seeing a lot of the characters younger, like Boba Fett and Owen and Beru. Very cool to see Owen and Beru's place from Star Wars, too. Also cool was the Jango and Boba Fett relationship. Yoda I thought was fine. Of course the light saber fight was very cool. But I did have a problem with one little thing about it. Not even that he walked with a cane, yet was quite agile during the fight, but IIRC, he never really touched the ground. It was the intro dialog to the fight. Too freakin' stupid. That really pissed me off for some reason. Reminded me of something out of Space Balls. About as subtle as a train wreck. And I noticed a lot of people really liking the asteroid field explosions. I found them really odd, how there was complete silence before each one, then boom. First I thought it was a screw-up, but the second one was the same. Why was that? I want to see it again, partly just because, and partly at a theater with better bass. Maybe I will pick up on it better the second time. Guess that's about it. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:17:17 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: liam finn & robyn side by side? - --On Tuesday, May 28, 2002 03:11:21 -0400 "*twofangs / rand*" wrote: > Has anyone heard Liam and Neil do the Beatles "Two Of Us"? > > It's terrific. Better than Aimee Mann & Michael Penn on the I Am Sam soundtrack?? Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ Being just contaminates the void - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 09:46:12 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Re: One-Nil etc James: > >Love it. Such a disappointment when that dirge "The Black Crow >Knows" >cuts in right afterwards. > >me too - and the trick with TBCK is to imagine it sung by Jethro Tull. >Works every time for me. > Sort of Jack Frost and the Hooded Black Crow Knows? brian np Eder Quarter: Bartok's 1st String Quartet _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 22:56:22 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: liam finn & robyn side by side? >James spoke: > >> I was recently (is this a complicated sentence, or what?) much delighted to >> discover that "The Alphabetchadupa", the first album by Liam Finn's band >> Betchadupa, is pretty damn good. It's not up to his dad's standards, >> but it's still well worth a listen. > >Has anyone heard Liam and Neil do the Beatles "Two Of Us"? > >It's terrific. I was looking at the I am Sam soundtrack CD the other day, and almost bought it when I saw that that was on there (and Nick Cave performing "Let it be"). Being a collector of Beatles cover versions (don't ask), I was very tempted. >I saw Liam play in his dad's band a few years ago, I think we figured >out Liam was 16 at the time. > >When did Neil join Split Enz - when he was 19? 18, IIRC >So I guess I have to start searching for Liam in record stores. > >I have a feeling it's not available in Canada. It's on Flying Nun, so if it isn't available in Canada it should be easily obtainable from them (and the NZ dollar's very low at the moment, so...). They had a couple of EPs over the last year or so, but this is their first full-length album. There's more info here: James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 09:26:25 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Finally saw Attack of the Clones (possible spoiler) On Tuesday, May 28, 2002, at 03:08 AM, Ken Weingold wrote: > And I noticed a lot of people really liking the asteroid field > explosions. I found them > really odd, how there was complete silence before each one, then boom. > First I thought it was a screw-up, but the second one was the same. > Why was that? Think of it as sonic distortion. You expect to hear the sound early, but because of the intense magnitude the sound takes awhile to reach the viewers "ears". I particularly enjoyed that sound effect - it was quite, er, effective. > I want to see it again, partly just because, and partly at a theater > with better bass. Give the digital projection at Empire 25 a try (42nd St & 8th Ave) I was very disappointed when seeing Ice Age at the Zeigfeld. They screwed up the DP and one of the audio channels was simply not working. We all were complaining because the swells during the emotional points were simply lost in the soundtrack (hell, it sounded better in our small screening room back at work). That, and the fact that the Zeigfeld smells like an old sock and the seating is horrendous - but I digress. - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:42:35 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: you know my name, look up the number On Fri, 24 May 2002, matt sewell wrote: > I always thought that the number in a drawer line echoes Beautiful Queen > - Every Cloud is numbered in the library... obviously Robyn's a closet > cataloguer (sp?). I don't suppose you've ever seen him in his carcoat on > the platform collecting engine numbers, Godders?! No, but next time I get a chance I'll ask his opinion on why both the LSWR and the SECR were so keen on the oddly asymmetrical 0-4-4T wheel arrangement and see what happens. I assumed that he was referring to some sort of recording angel. As far as the wind tunnel into the land of the dead is concerned, I would assume that it comes from Jean Cocteau's "Orphee". "Mirrors are the doors through which death comes and goes..." - - Mike "The bird sings with its fingers" Godwin PS I just read 'Galatea' by Phillip Pullman, an irritatingly Dickesque book in which the sexy angels turn out to be androids ... PPS More Dickesquerie: The only factoid I know about Moby is that he is related to Herman Melville. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:57:23 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: you know my name, look up the number - --On Tuesday, May 28, 2002 14:42:35 +0100 Michael R Godwin wrote: > PS I just read 'Galatea' by Phillip Pullman, an irritatingly Dickesque > book in which the sexy angels turn out to be androids ... I can't find that on amazon.de. Is it brand-new? There is a Galatea 2.2 by Richard Powers, who I heard about for the first time last night, but that's probably not it. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ Being just contaminates the void - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:46:05 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: you know my name, look up the number > --On Tuesday, May 28, 2002 14:42:35 +0100 Michael R Godwin > wrote: > > PS I just read 'Galatea' by Phillip Pullman, an irritatingly Dickesque > > book in which the sexy angels turn out to be androids ... On Tue, 28 May 2002, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > I can't find that on amazon.de. Is it brand-new? There is a Galatea 2.2 by > Richard Powers, who I heard about for the first time last night, but that's > probably not it. Published by Victor Gollancz Sci-Fi in the late 1970s (1978?), and listed as his second novel. It has a ridiculous "effete hippie" photo of Pullman inside the back cover, quite unlike his current "amiable prof" look: http://teacher.scholastic.com/authorsandbooks/authors/pullman/bio.htm - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:39:26 -0400 From: Brian Subject: Re: robyn at calgary folk festival At Saturday, 25 May 2002, woj wrote: >according to the calgary folk festival's performer page http://www.calgaryfolkfest.com/01/html/performers.html >, robyn will be >appearing on the main stage on saturday, july 27th (tying in nicely with >the toronto gig on july 24th, so it looks like there will be some north >american tour of some sort this summer). > >thanks to david finley for the tip! > >woj Note that July 24th is a full moon. Where is Prince Island anyway? Nuppy PS if this sends, it's a miracle and my email works again! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:55:33 -0400 From: "Timothy Reed" Subject: RE: Finally saw Attack of the Clones (possible spoiler) In NYC, the Zeigfeld and AMC25 are both supposed to have digital projection systems. I went to the AMC25 but the film was projected on regular reels. The film even had cigarette burns indicating that the reels needed to be switched. I've never seen a movie on a digital projector, but given that this is playing off a hard disk I gotta figure that not all AMC25 screens have digital projectors. Tim > > I want to see it again, partly just because, and partly > at a theater > > with better bass. > > Give the digital projection at Empire 25 a try (42nd St & 8th > Ave) I > was very disappointed when seeing Ice Age at the Zeigfeld. > They screwed > up the DP and one of the audio channels was simply not > working. We all > were complaining because the swells during the emotional points were > simply lost in the soundtrack (hell, it sounded better in our small > screening room back at work). That, and the fact that the Zeigfeld > smells like an old sock and the seating is horrendous - but I digress. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:59:45 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Finally saw Attack of the Clones (possible spoiler) On Tue, May 28, 2002, Steve Talkowski wrote: > >And I noticed a lot of people really liking the asteroid field > >explosions. I found them > >really odd, how there was complete silence before each one, then boom. > >First I thought it was a screw-up, but the second one was the same. > >Why was that? > > Think of it as sonic distortion. You expect to hear the sound early, > but because of the intense magnitude the sound takes awhile to reach the > viewers "ears". I particularly enjoyed that sound effect - it was > quite, er, effective. Huh. I can understand that, but it sounded like EVERYTHING went silent before. Do you see what I'm saying? > Give the digital projection at Empire 25 a try (42nd St & 8th Ave) I > was very disappointed when seeing Ice Age at the Zeigfeld. They screwed > up the DP and one of the audio channels was simply not working. We all > were complaining because the swells during the emotional points were > simply lost in the soundtrack (hell, it sounded better in our small > screening room back at work). That, and the fact that the Zeigfeld > smells like an old sock and the seating is horrendous - but I digress. Hah. So maybe I should give that THX number a call. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:30:26 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: M.O.B./duets, etc. Jill-- >Mission of Burma (anyone ever see them live? they were GREAT in concert) They were indeed. Unfortunately I saw them late when Roger Miller was already losing hearing & wearing headphones while playing to protect his ears. I'd gone w/ a non-punkrock person who made a crack about the headphones "He's probably listening to music he *really* likes thru them." They were nice guys, very approachable. I have Moby's "Play." It's OK, but the best stuff on it is good because it's mostly semi- techno settings of Folkways-type old gospel or blues -- I'd hardly call it sampling, he uses so much of the original. If, like me, you like techno *and* really old folk, it's lots of fun. - --- Dark Green Energy is a big fav of mine, w/ or without Stipe, it could replace most things on PI. I love the change when it goes into the chorus. But I admit I also get a kick out of hearing Stipe. I like "She Doesn't Exist" more than most of PI, partly because it has a great chorus, partly for Stipe's la-las. The verses have really lame words ("I smell her perfume when my eyes are closed") & ordinary music, but the chorus gets me -- as long as I stick w/ my interpretation that she isn't physically dead that it's really the feeling that's dead, like how in 1984 (the book), Winston & Julia could be together at the end and feel nothing. ( I think PI and Eye are the 2 albums I listen to least, and they sound totally different.) I like "Ultra Unbelieveable Love" -- the Peter Gunn theme w/ good lyrics, harmonies & a crucifixian-joke chorus! But I do like hearing others sing w/ Robyn, & that made me like the Grant Lee Hitchcock tour. Maybe I was spoiled by the Beatles, Byrds & the Band, but the problem w/ liking one performer a lot is that the voice never changes. I sometimes wish Robyn was in a bit more of a *band* & let someone else sing a few numbers-- tho it would be great if they were things he'd written. Appropos of nothing, one of my great Rock and Roll Fantasies is that George Harrison quit the Beatles (but leaving all his Beatle songs) & joined Crosby & Stills. Well, at least it would've been better than what we got. Ross Taylor "when he feels the world is closing in he turns his stereo way up high" Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 10:41:25 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Finally saw Attack of the Clones (possible spoiler) At 12:59 PM 5/28/2002 -0400, Ken Weingold wrote: > > Think of it as sonic distortion. You expect to hear the sound early, > > but because of the intense magnitude the sound takes awhile to reach the > > viewers "ears". I particularly enjoyed that sound effect - it was > > quite, er, effective. > >Huh. I can understand that, but it sounded like EVERYTHING went >silent before. Do you see what I'm saying? That happened when I saw it too . As I remember it, all the sound (ambient ship sounds, music - if there was any - etc.) completely cut out for a second or two, and then the sound of the blast hit, after the explosion, and everything turned back on. But, it was very jarring, not smooth at all, as if somebody had hit a mute button on and off, or the digital audio device clipped. Can't believe it was intentional. If it was, it didn't work. Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:58:48 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Finally saw Attack of the Clones (possible spoiler) Jason R. Thornton wrote: > > But, it was very jarring, not > smooth at all, as if somebody had hit a mute button on and off, or the > digital audio device clipped. Quoth Alex Cox: "In the case of Attack of the Clones, quality may not matter much since (a) almost all the shots are special effects shots done mainly by computer, and (b) the film is shite." (from http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,3604,722877,00.html -- on Digital Cinema) - -- Gandalf Graphics Limited, Markham, Ontario, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:08:24 -0700 From: glen uber Subject: Grateful Bread steve earnestly scribbled: >The generally dismal quality of America's mass-marketed pop music is an >esthetic national emergency. - Lorraine Ali & David Gates, Newsweek Is the David Gates cited above the same David Gates who once fronted Bread? If it is, I guess no one is more qualified than he to speak authoritatively on the "dismal quality of America's mass-marketed pop music," eh? - -- Cheers! - -g- "Start your own revolution and cut out the middle man." - --Billy Bragg glen uber =+= blint (at) mac dot com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #175 ********************************