From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #172 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, May 25 2002 Volume 11 : Number 172 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: A good year for music! [Stewart Russell ] Re: A good year for music! [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] The Nickelodeon (RIP) [Jill Brand ] Re: well then ["Jonathan Fetter" ] hits, one nil, and producers [*rand - buzup buzup buzup buzup buzup ah ha] Re: hits, one nil, and producers ["Jason R. Thornton" ] baa baa black sheep ["Natalie Jane" ] Star Trek/Dr Who [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] and again... [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] totally tubular! [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Superman ["Russ Reynolds" ] Who'd a thunk and Moby [Jill Brand ] Dave Berg [Jill Brand ] Sharpies - Tools of the Devil [Jason Miller ] Re: rip hole [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Kay Exposed [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Sharpies - Tools of the Devil [Ken Weingold ] Re: hits, one nil, and producers [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Star Trek/Dr Who ["Michael Wells" ] robyn at calgary folk festival [invader woj ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 13:41:15 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: A good year for music! Jason R. Thornton wrote: > > However, Reuters performed a little test of their own, and claims it works: the thing I find most worrying is that there are all these people saying they've bought a Celine Dion CD. Is there no shame left in this world? Stewart (why the large-format camera user and the Star Wars fan can never be friends: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1354279728) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:50:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: A good year for music! On Fri, 24 May 2002, glen uber wrote: > >Also accidentally saw Hank Williams Junior and Kid Rock performing together. > >WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?? > > Didn't you hear? There was a question as to who was the least-talented, > most overrated, least original poseur in the music business. They decided > to settle the score on stage. Ouch. My nominee for post of the year. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Sting, where is thy death?:: __Alan Gray_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:16:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: The Nickelodeon (RIP) Tom wrote: Hey, how about the surprise midnight showing of "The Great Rock n Roll Swindle" at that little theater by Kenmore Square? Man, that was a fun night. I'm old, - - -tc **************** Oh, how I do remember that. The theater was the Nickelodeon, and Boston University, in its infinite regard for the arts, has turned it into a series of lecture halls. I'm older, Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:20:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: well then > Also, I forgot to mention the riverboat cruise where Robyn was playing > Guildford and a butterfly landed on his face... Man, I hope it wasn't feeding on dung just before that. Butterflies may look pretty, but that doesn't mean they have clean feet. Unfavs: Most of JfS. I un-like it so much that I can't think of particular songs that I don't care for other than "NASA Clapping" and "Cheese Alarm." Is "Viva Sea- Tac" on there too? All of these songs seem gimmicky--hear them once, that's enough. "Gene Hackman" and "1974" too. To sum up, I find JfS more annoying than Gravey Decor. The only things keeping me from putting my copy on Ebay are the slim chance that someday I'll like it, and fan loyalty. "Tell Me About Your Drugs" has always grated on my nerves for some reason. I guess its too blustery and repetitive. "Heaven" and "The Fly" also grate.a "Rabbit Train," however, is a gem. I'm only me, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 14:50:04 -0400 From: *rand - buzup buzup buzup buzup buzup ah ha* Subject: hits, one nil, and producers > said steve: >> said randi: >> I threw a stuffed animal to Howard Jones at the stage. >> My throw was *so* good it hit him smack dab in the face while he was >> singing. > said steve: So now we know who bounced one off the top of Fripp's head at that > Halloween show in Ft. Worth. Oh no! Steve! That was supposed to be a secret I took with me to my grave ;-} Question to informed fegs: Is Neil Finn's North American release of "One Nil" ~ or I guess "One All;" better than the U.K. one? Why was *the form* previously unappreciated by North Americans ... what does that mean exactly? I didn't know if it was a Groovy Decoy / Groovy Decay kind of thing ~ with a sober Neil Finn ... or an actual improvement on the songs. I don't like hearing it was 'reworked' or 'remixed' for North America. Makes us sound too dumb to appreciate the music. Are there different songs as well? I count Neil Finn in my top ten with Michael Penn and Aimee Mann and was going to save the money to buy the import and have both ~ though at the moment I have neither ~ nil ;-} > said mike g: > I didn't like Oceanside until I saw him perform it with Tim and Jake on the > IoW bus trip - maybe the recording lacks something. Whoa. That recording lacks a good producer ... at the very least, a producer who understands Robyn's music. A famous producer was hired, Paul Fox, {xtc, 10 000 maniacs, phish, sugarcubes} ... { just like what was done on 'Respect' ~ {john leckie ... xtc, radiohead, pink floyd, posies}~ the hiring of a famous producer I mean } ... and Paul Fox just overproduced 'Perspex Island' to death. I didn't appreciate many of the "Perspex" songs until I heard then live and on the "Kershaw Sessions" cd. I don't like lush arrangements when it comes to many Robyn songs ... and the songs on "Perspex" didn't deserve to be so maxed out, so stylized ... imho Pared down ~ the songs ~ {instead of being touted as A&M's next best chance at a hit album for Robyn} ~ probably would have attracted more people the bastards that destroy our lives are sometimes just ourselves, Randi {who adores the 'antwoman' remix ~ made a film with that as the sdtk} Toronto, Ontario, Canada *what scares you most will set you free* ~ Robyn Hitchcock *by endurance we conquer* ~ Sir Ernest Shackleton *we can make a moment last forever gaze across the ocean to the sun* ~ Robyn Hitchcock p.s. 'legalized murder' was an outtake from the 'queen elvis' sessions and i think a b-side too if i'm not crazy :-} ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:01:21 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: hits, one nil, and producers At 02:50 PM 5/24/2002 -0400, *rand - buzup buzup buzup buzup buzup ah ha* wrote: >Question to informed fegs: Is Neil Finn's North American release of >"One Nil" ~ or I guess "One All;" better than the U.K. one? > >Why was *the form* previously unappreciated by North Americans ... what >does that mean exactly? > >I didn't know if it was a Groovy Decoy / Groovy Decay kind of thing ~ >with a sober Neil Finn ... or an actual improvement on the songs. > >I don't like hearing it was 'reworked' or 'remixed' for North America. > >Makes us sound too dumb to appreciate the music. > >Are there different songs as well? I haven't heard "One All" yet, so I can't really answer your "which is better?" question. I did glance over the track listing the other day and noticed that ten songs from "One Nil" made it on. "Don't Ask Why" and "Elastic Heart" have been replaced with "Lullaby Requiem" and "Human Kindness," if I jotted that down right. Same number of songs, obviously, but the track order is a lot different. I've heard that some or all of the "One Nil" songs have been remixed, but I'm not sure to what extent. I'm almost hoping for radical reinterpretations, just to make it worth getting. If you're North American, and would prefer getting "One Nil" instead of "One All," or the bare ass version of the Strokes' "Is This It?" for that matter, you can pick them up from www.cd-wow.co.uk for a mere #8.99, with free shipping. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:07:48 -0700 From: "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" Subject: RE: hits, one nil, and producers > Question to informed fegs: Is Neil Finn's North American release of > "One Nil" ~ or I guess "One All;" better than the U.K. one? I like One Nil better than One All. But ive had One Nil a lot longer. > Why was *the form* previously unappreciated by North Americans ... what > does that mean exactly? > I didn't know if it was a Groovy Decoy / Groovy Decay kind of thing ~ > with a sober Neil Finn ... or an actual improvement on the songs. > I don't like hearing it was 'reworked' or 'remixed' for North America. I think this was just a ploy to get all the people that bought One nil as an Import to buy it again. > Are there different songs as well? Yeah. One All Has two new songs Lullaby requiem and Human Kindness which are both cool But not as good as Don't Ask Why and Elastic Heart which are only on One Nil. I bought One All even though I have had one Nil mainly because I want Neil to keep releasing records here and touring North America. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 20:52:54 +0000 From: "Sloe Rose" Subject: Cataloger caryn? Caryn? CARYN? (with a -c-! And one of those cute little "y's where it dosn't belong!) Fuck you Mike Welles;-!!! - -------------- Nat: >but the greatest offenders are "Cheese Alarm" (stupid silly lyrics >with a pointless "moral" tacked on to the end, though at least he has good >taste in cheese) Since I love stinky cheeses, this song sets me salivating. There arent many songs that -do- that. - ---------------- Matt: >I always thought that the number in a drawer line echoes Beautiful Queen - - - Every Cloud is numbered in the library... obviously Robyn's a closet cataloguer (sp?). Matt, you're -trying- to ruin my weekend, right;-? - ------------------ When I saw "rip hole" as a subject heading, I really stopped and wondered for a moment. - --------------------- Kay, "Your hair is reminiscent of a digesting yak." Surrealist Compliment Generator, which, being plugged into the great unconscionable must know my fondness for hair and cheese and that my name backwards is yak. Hey--its a sign. Idnar, Tan, -- get out your razors, we're heading for NY;-! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 16:27:24 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: baa baa black sheep >Perhaps we fuzzy-topped Fegs could start up our own cottage >industry - animal-cruelty free wool. I'm all for this. Imagine a scarf or sweater made from a blend of my, LJ's, Quail's, and Jason's hair - black, blonde, red, and... um, some other color, respectively. I think we're onto something... Re. bad Robyn (bad Robyn! no biscuit!) - I've always found that, to me, Robyn is not a creature of extremes. He can be good or bad or indifferent, but he is rarely SPECTACULARLY good (blows your brain to blissful smithereens) or SPECTACULARLY bad (makes you projectile vomit your last three meals). Though I think this theory only really applies to Robyn as a solo artist, as all of "Underwater Moonlight" blows my brain to blissful smithereens. n. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 11:33:20 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Star Trek/Dr Who >I'm not sure why I never liked Star Trek all that much. I think it's >something to do with the fact that a quasimilitary group prowling >the universe being incredibly bland is not my idea of an idealized >future. It was always too white-bread, comfortable, middle-America in space (no offence intended) for me, if you know what I mean. >Star Wars isn't science fiction, of course, but space opera / >fantasy; people assume it's science fiction because it has spaceships >and robots and laser guns. exactly. Although I'd say it was science fiction. By that I mean people assume that science fiction is *only* stuff with rockets and robots and laser guns. A lot of truly great sf has none of these, but no-one calls it sf. But space opera is certainly science fiction, even though it may have its roots in other genres. Personally I think of Star Wars (at least the original movie) as a western. >I never liked either as much >as I liked Doctor Who. Unfortunately, as I get older and watch some >of those old episodes, I see that the theory of Doctor Who was always >much more potent than the practice. true. But a lot of that is the creakiness of the sets and acting - i.e., typical 60s/70s television. Also remember it was originally aimed at the younger age group. A friend of mine recently pressed a book into my hands and said 'read this - - no, really'. It was a Doctor Who novelisation, or more accurately, one of the "New Adventures", a story written in the Doctor Who universe after the series ended. And I was impressed. It was funny, entertaining, well written, and had more in-jokes than you could poke a sonic screwdriver at. I will not turn up my nose nearly as far if he presses another one on me in future. (the book, BTW, was called "No future", and is set during the 1976-7 Britpunk explosion on an Earth with a slightly different timeline). James (I can point to Norway with my toes, but I've got its flag) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 11:57:28 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: and again... >But "Knife" on the same albumn ... It makes it painful point clearly, almost >too clearly, but not very evocatively. Once youve gotten it, is there much >reason to go back to it? I haven't heard it for years. Was the music any >good? I dont rememeber the melody, just that it sounded strident. sorry Kay, but I have to disagree there - Knife's a great track. Just listen to that loping, looping bassline, and the way it plays with the guitar line! >Stipe connection on "Superman"? >?, but in concert, didn't Mike Miles always sing this, not Stipe? also, it was a cover version. Then again, perhaps RH and REM had a contest to see if they could both finish an album with a track called superman. REM decided to cover one, RH decided to write one, but was uninspired. Alice says she wishes Robyn would write more songs like "Wafflehead", BTW. It's her favourite RH song. >> back, in the grass with a butterfly on your face, realizing that you've >> become only 'a (phone) number in a drawer.' another song I love. The whole feeling of someone who has died and is slowly forgetting everything that made up his life, and although he doesn't care that he's losing it, he's feeling wistful about it. As to the butterflyu on the face and the phone number in a drawer, the images are perfect. The image of the butterfly on the face is that of a silent witness, one who has seen but cannot tell (also used on posters for Silence of the lambs, IIRC). And what poignant reminders of those who are gone do we occasionally stumbe across? A faded photograph, a recollected memory, a phone number in an old diary, somewhere shut in a drawer? Good song. >All time least fav: One Long Pair of Eyes coincidentally playing in the background when I read this. I love this song - - although I think the version on GF is even better than Robyn's original - it adds that haunting, haunted quality which Robyn's original lacks and needs. hey - what's up with this list? Everyone's talking about Robyn Hitchcock! D'y'all mind getting back off topic? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 12:31:55 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: totally tubular! http://news.bbc.co.uk/low/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_2005000/2005810.stm James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 18:28:01 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: Superman As Jason poined out about REM's "Superman": > Since someone asked - it is a cover song, originally by a band called The > Clique. ...and I was about to say it was Box Of Frogs. Now I'm confused. I remember seeing Box Of Frogs credited on some record but if it wasn't "Superman" I don't know what it was. Something Camper Van Beethoven recorded maybe? Is this ringing a bell with anyone? I found a track listing for the Box of Frogs albums but none of the titles jumped out at me. ... Okay, found it...it was CVB's "Ice Cream Every Day" by Box O'Laffs...who were basically CVB before they were CVB. According to the liner notes on the "Vampire Can Mating Oven" EP. Which are at least 50% fiction, so who knows. So, in a nutshell, Box O'Laffs has nothing to do with Box Of Frogs or R.E.M.'s "Superman" or the Clique or Robyn Hitchcock or anything that's ever been discussed on this list an any time by anyone past or present. I love having conversations with myself. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 22:28:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Who'd a thunk and Moby I never thought that my little comment about finding Sinister But Happy would generate such a ROBYN discussion on this list. As a matter of fact, there has been so much Robyn talk that, at first, I thought I was on the wrong list. If I don't like a song by someone I otherwise adore, I don't assume that it is inherently bad. I just may not like it. I do find people's varied tastes interesting. I am especially taken with the vehement dislike for Legalized Murder, especially the one comment that it has no melody. It just fucking drips with melody, gorgeous melody. I can sort of hear Randy Newman singing it. I like Randy Newman a whole lot. It reminds me of the song from Toy Story II in which we find out how Jessie (the cowgirl) got remaindered. Or maybe it reminds me of Marie, a truly beautiful song. For me, it's the lyrics that don't work. Another "blah" song for me is Oceanside - bad CSNY, and they can be bad all by themselves. As for Moby, the only thing I know by him is his cover of That's When I Reach for My Revolver. The first time I heard it, I didn't know quite what to make of it since I knew the original so well, and I knew that it wasn't the original. When the DJ said, "That was Moby", I thought that he had taken the initials of Mission of Burma (anyone ever see them live? they were GREAT in concert) and added a "y" to the end. It took me weeks to figure out that this was someone's moniker. So which commercials does he do that I know the music from? Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 22:30:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Dave Berg Wow. Whenever a new Mad magazine came out, I always read the Dave Berg stuff first. Sad. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 05:54:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Jason Miller Subject: Sharpies - Tools of the Devil lwn.net put it best: "It will be interesting to see how the entertainment industry responds to this one. The industry and the U.S. courts have been very clear on their position: a device which circumvents protection schemes is illegal under the DMCA, regardless of any legitimate uses it may have. The industry, it seems, must either (1) take the marker manufacturers to court, or (2) admit that, perhaps, some tools capable of circumvention might have uses that don't involve letting pirates take over the world. Which will it be?" http://lwn.net/2002/0516/ You might want to dump your Sharpie stock now 'cause those bastards are going down if Hillary Rosen has anything to say about it. Jason M. On Fri, 24 May 2002, Jason R. Thornton wrote: | | Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 10:29:13 -0700 | From: "Jason R. Thornton" | Subject: Re: A good year for music! | | At 10:58 AM 5/24/2002 -0500, JH3 wrote: | | >*HEY*, did you all hear the Sony's fancy music-CD copy-protection | >scheme can be defeated by simply drawing around the rim of the | >disc with a Sharpie? | | This *sounds* too much like that urban legend about coloring the edge of a | CD with a green marking pen to improve the sound quality. | | However, Reuters performed a little test of their own, and claims it works: | | http://www.msnbc.com/news/754854.asp | | | | - --Jason | | "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." | - Sherwood Anderson | | ------------------------------ | | End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #171 | ******************************** | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 23:04:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: rip hole Mike Swedene wrote: > Now what? > > what will this do to the NIRVANA box set? According > to the article in RS and the boys of NIRVANA she is > using the Nirvana catalog to help her shop for a > better record deal for her music. there's always her solo career.... ===== "This week, the White House says President Bush meant no disrespect when he referred to the Pakistani people as 'Pakis.' But just to be on the safe side, White House staffers have cancelled his trip to Nigeria" -- Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 23:05:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Kay Exposed Mike Wells wrote: > This can't be an accident...how many Wisniewski's do we know? Kay, Caryn, Steve > Or should we > just start calling Kay by her real name - Caryn? > > http://www.theonion.com/onion3819/factual_error_found.html > > Michael ===== "This week, the White House says President Bush meant no disrespect when he referred to the Pakistani people as 'Pakis.' But just to be on the safe side, White House staffers have cancelled his trip to Nigeria" -- Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 02:08:27 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Sharpies - Tools of the Devil On Sat, May 25, 2002, Jason Miller wrote: > lwn.net put it best: > > "It will be interesting to see how the entertainment industry responds > to this one. The industry and the U.S. courts have been very clear on > their position: a device which circumvents protection schemes is > illegal under the DMCA, regardless of any legitimate uses it may have. > The industry, it seems, must either (1) take the marker manufacturers > to court, or (2) admit that, perhaps, some tools capable of > circumvention might have uses that don't involve letting pirates take > over the world. Which will it be?" > > http://lwn.net/2002/0516/ > > > You might want to dump your Sharpie stock now 'cause those bastards > are going down if Hillary Rosen has anything to say about it. So then what will I use to label the CDRs I make from the copy-protected CDs? ;-) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 23:18:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: hits, one nil, and producers *rand - buzup buzup buzup buzup buzup ah ha* wrote: > said mike g: > > I didn't like Oceanside until I saw him perform it with Tim and > > Jake on the IoW bus trip - maybe the recording lacks something. > Whoa. That recording lacks a good producer ... at the very least, a > producer who understands Robyn's music. > > A famous producer was hired, Paul Fox, {xtc, 10 000 maniacs, phish, > sugarcubes} ... actually, he had only produced XTC at that point. PI was only the second album he produced i think. > {just like what was done on 'Respect' ~ {john leckie ... xtc, > radiohead, pink floyd, posies}~ the hiring of a famous producer I > mean} > > ... and Paul Fox just overproduced 'Perspex Island' to death. > > I didn't appreciate many of the "Perspex" songs until I heard then > live and on the "Kershaw Sessions" cd. > > I don't like lush arrangements when it comes to many Robyn songs ... > and the songs on "Perspex" didn't deserve to be so maxed out, so > stylized ... imho maybe it's because PI was the first Robyn album I bought, but the production doesn't bug me as much as it does a lot of people. that's not to say that i don't agree that it's too slick at some points -- but i think that it's not that fatal a flaw (though "vegetation and dimes" and "ride" could have easily been replace by "Dark green energy.") ===== "This week, the White House says President Bush meant no disrespect when he referred to the Pakistani people as 'Pakis.' But just to be on the safe side, White House staffers have cancelled his trip to Nigeria" -- Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 06:58:47 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: Star Trek/Dr Who James correctly observes: > But space opera is certainly science fiction, even though it may > have its roots in other genres. Blakes7 ! Courtesy of Terry Nation, the finest space opera ever. Best storylines, worst sets, worst acting, worst special effects, worst 'location' shooting, pretty much worst everything. But Lord, what scripts. Our local PBS used to show it starting at around midnight, which was perfect if you happened to be up freebasing cocaine and needed something on the tube to chill with. (sigh) Where's Paul Darrow when you really need him.* Michael "if you think fegs are scary, wait til you meet the Blakes7 fan club" Wells * living quietly in West Sussex, apparently ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 14:09:13 -0400 From: invader woj Subject: robyn at calgary folk festival according to the calgary folk festival's performer page , robyn will be appearing on the main stage on saturday, july 27th (tying in nicely with the toronto gig on july 24th, so it looks like there will be some north american tour of some sort this summer). thanks to david finley for the tip! woj ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #172 ********************************