From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #165 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, May 21 2002 Volume 11 : Number 165 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Cruising for Dick! [The Great Quail ] drew = clone? [drew ] Sinister? Happy? ["Sloe Rose" ] Re: A Minority Report on Tom Cruise ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: reap ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: Jolly [glen uber ] who remembers; unbaby ["ross taylor" ] Starpeering [Tom Clark ] Re: A Minority Report on Tom Cruise ["melissa" ] Re: Jolly [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Raymond Hitchcock: Fighting Cancer ["Ultimate Goal" ] Re: Jolly [gSs ] Re: A Mint-in-Box Report on Tom Cruise ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Sinister? Happy? [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Jolly [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Total Recall ["Aaron L." ] red and folk [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] i can't believe tom cruise is in my subject header [*rand - buzup buzup b] Re: i can't believe tom cruise is in my subject header ["Maximilian Lang"] Re: Robyn's Book [Steve Talkowski ] Re: where is eb? ["John Bastin" ] Sos! [owner-fegmaniax-digest ] Re: i can't believe tom cruise is in my subject header [steve ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:20:09 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Cruising for Dick! Gene, >I recently finished "Ubik" -- the only PKD novel I've read so far. Man oh man >can PKD write a sentence. Heh. And "Ubik" is perhaps my least favorite of his well-known novels. I think his best are: "The Man in the High Castle," "Through a Scanner Darkly," "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep," "Flow My Tears the Policeman Said," and the VALIS trilogy.... Miles, >Thank you, thank you, thank you! Cruise is utterly incapable of >projecting any sort of inner life, and those scenes were agonizingly >boring. Daniel Day-Lewis is an actor who could have adroitly >conveyed that kind of inner turmoil behind a stoic exterior. UGH! I think Daniel Day-Lewis is very overrated, myself. While I disagree with you about Cruise, I do have to say that DeNirio is, in my opinion, one of the best actors who can show "inner wheels turning." There's a scene near the end of "Heat" where he is driving away from a mess, scot-free, and you can just watch all the thoughts flicker across his brain before he decides to swing the car around.... Two actors I would love to see play Dickian protagonists: Ed Norton & David Thewlis.... >FWIW, the only movie where I've ever thought Cruise did a capable >job was in JERRY MAGUIRE, where he essentially played himself: a >vacuous playboy striving to become a Real Live Boy, to become more >than just a toothsome smile in a sportscar. Wow, sounds like you really hate this guy! ;) - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 21:38:53 -0700 From: drew Subject: drew = clone? > From: The Great Quail > > I disagree. I think the acting was fine, it was the dialogue and > direction that were crippling -- especially to Portman, who I don't > really think is that good. OK, I'll go along with that. It's sometimes hard to tell when it's the actors and when it's the script or direction, but in this case we know that most of these people are at least adequate actors under the right circumstances. I think Portman's pretty overrated, too, in a lot of ways, though she's pleasant enough. [I said:] >> I was shocked, and while Episode I was bad, somehow I don't >> remember it being quite this badly performed. > > Oh, it was much much worse -- watch it again! This is what everyone is saying. Last time I tried to watch it I stopped about halfway through, so you might be right again. It was definitely duller in general. > Yeah -- that irked me too. In Empire Strikes Back," Yoda made actual > wise comments. He had a sense of wisdom and presence. In this movie, > he just advanced the plot. Or not, actually. He was totally superfluous until the end. Christ, he didn't even answer Obi-Wan's question himself. >> As for Jar Jar, all I can say is no wonder the Republic fell. > > Ha! ROTFL! Though I did like the way that the baddies exploited Jar > Jar. Yeah, me too -- that and the somewhat troubling use of clones as artificially obedient blaster fodder added a really queasy perversity to the whole affair, which made it much more interesting. > From: Jeff Dwarf > in today's Movie Answer Man column, someone throws out the theory that > one other problem with the last two movies is the lack of an everyman > type character a la Han Solo. I don't know if I consider Solo an "everyman" but I've had a similar thought since Episode I. The protagonists in the first film weren't totally ordinary but they interacted and reacted to their situation in realistic, emotional, and often amusing ways. These protagonists are all solemn, flat, and often superhuman, which makes them No Fun. I watched Episode IV later the same day I saw II, and the contrast in tone and character is remarkable. > that > not one Jedi seems to be even vaguely suspicious of Palpatine.... Yeah, what the fuck? Can everyone sense the dark side only when it's not standing right next to them? Drew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 17:59:17 +0000 From: "Sloe Rose" Subject: Sinister? Happy? Jill: >Anyone else somewhat lukewarm about She Was Sinister but She Was Happy? Actually its one of my favorite tracks on the record and perhaps even on my list of all time faves. Love the violin work, the imagery, the skeptically joyous wave of the hand. - ---------------- Drew, welcome back to the world of the employed. The only thing worse than having a job is not having a job. good luck with it. I think of "Blade Runner" and "Do Androids Deam..." as seperate entities. For me "Blade Runner" was inspired by the former. Which is fine with me cause the Dickian spirit was there. Books arent movies and vice versa. Letter is immaterial if the spirit rings true. - ---------------------- Brian, so your not just a cataloger(sigh of relief.) Kay, who wishes plenty for all the good it does _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 11:10:11 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: A Minority Report on Tom Cruise At 06:45 AM 5/21/2002 -0700, Eugene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: >"Minority Report" the novel >probably was about Paranoia, and featured Paranoia as a pivotal character, but >I think "Minority Report" the Spielbergian movie will gloss over paranoia. In case you do go searching for it, "Minority Report" is not a novel. It is a short story which is included in Volume 4 of the 5 PKD short story collections that are currently available. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 13:30:11 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Sinister? Happy? On Tue, 21 May 2002, Sloe Rose wrote: > The only thing worse than having a job is not having a job. just needing a job is the bad part. but that doesn't mean we should all join a potato peeler's co-op and trade shiny lovers at lunch. or does it? gSs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:36:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: reap Shit. One hell of an essayist/scientist/baseball fan. And the Red Sox are having a great season too. Creationists must be celebrating everywhere. Jon On Tue, 21 May 2002 09:34:14 -0400, Stewart Russell wrote : > Stephen Jay Gould > > (or did my mail server miss previous postings?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 10:21:13 -0700 From: glen uber Subject: Re: Jolly Sloe earnestly scribbled: >What do other Fegs do to beat the blues away? Is there an activity, record, >movie, book they find particularly helpful at cheering themselves up? Aside >for the really obvious;-). I think Ive been forcing myself to be a bit extra >jolly recently, when what I need is some real jolly. And down-time, which I >will get soon with vac. Generally, I write, play guitar (or piano when one is around), or watch a really stupid senseless movie I wouldn't otherwise watch to beat away the blues. I've found sex is a good cure for the blues after being rejected for a job or some other professional setback. However, if it's the kind of blues brought on by the Raiders getting knocked out of the playoffs because of a stupid rule that makes an apparent fumble an incomplete forward pass, copious amounts of yelling and alcohol in any combination seems to do the trick rather well. Since my wife is a Broncos fan, she wasn't about to provide any solace so I had to turn somewhere, right? Still bitter, - -g- "Start your own revolution and cut out the middle man." - --Billy Bragg glen uber =+= blint (at) mac dot com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 15:19:12 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: who remembers; unbaby I can explain- The Who did cover Dancing in the Streets for the BBC, but the Kinks version is my all-time fav, over the Vandellas & anyone else. Somebody mentioned "Baby Don't You Do It" -- that was the flip side to "Join Together" & got collected on Rarities Vol. 1. (a legit record). Isn't "The Ox" just a two chord instrumental? My daughter had to do a musical skit against smoking for her health class, so I played her "Little Billy." I think cancer coupled w/ those choirboy "ha-ha ha-ha"'s gave her a new understanding of punk. - --- Minority Report-- I'm kinda on the pro Cruise side, but then I thought der Schwartzennaggerr was OK in at least the 1st half of Total Recall. IMO Dick protagonists are interior, but they're not Hamlets. THere has to be enough "well, then on to the next thing" ordinariness about them for us to wonder which one is really the exploding robot. Often they've been opened up to interiorness by the puzzles they encounter, but they're still relatively ordinary guys w/ a good deal of will trying to fight thru the puzzle. Arnold was sort of like that. I haven't read Minority Report. For starters, I highly recommend THe Man in the High Castle. - --- On Fri, 17 May 2002, Natalie Jane wrote: > Does anyone besides me have the sneaking suspicion that Robyn's book will be > a rambling, incoherent, unreadable mess? If he put out a 200+ pp. book of short pieces like Prince of Cones, I would keep it on my bedside, take it to the beach, read it over & over. A novel which depended on "jumps" & weird details like that for its life could end up making me tired. I take heart from Kay pointing out the movies he likes. Plus there is usually an emotive element in his stuff that's not there in lots of avant-guard writing, like Mark Leyner IMO. I certainly wouldn't mind if it was really weird. Most fiction these days is written in the manner of Jane Austin. It's like Joyce, Borges, Stein (her novels are quite readable) never happened. There are some people -- come back, Donald Barthleme! -- but lots of the experimental types are cold & academic. Maybe I'm reading the wrong magazines. Pychon lives! I worry a bit about his success w/ publishers. It's not a great time -- when the economy tanks, 1st thing to get hit is the arts. But really the main problem is the huge gap between the mega publishers who all own each other and the teeny tiny ones, who are really the only alternative. THe big presses want sales & the university presses are all tied up w/ publish- or-perish faculty who are networked up the wazoo. Good things manage to regularly come out of both systems, but it's a lousy set-up for an oddball outsider. There are *some* independant small presses ... plus a big publisher might count on his literate fan base. Whatever he writes will surely be better than "Horses' Neck" the book of stories Pete Townsend came out w/, as part of being a "consultant" to some big publisher. It will probably be better than "In His Own Write" or "Spaniard in the Works." I think I read all of Tarantula, but just as a bunch of interesting passages strung together ... Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 12:56:40 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Starpeering I was just coming back from lunch and saw Thomas Dolby sitting in the Starbucks around the corner. That is all, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:44:29 -0000 From: "melissa" Subject: Re: A Minority Report on Tom Cruise They have also released a version of it as a hardcover book. It's shiny and has that obnoxious "now a major motion picture" sticker on it. It's long and thin and bound on the top edge so that you flip it like a police notebook to read it. Just in case you all need more things to collect. Melissa "Jason R. Thornton" said: > In case you do go searching for it, "Minority Report" is not a novel. It > is a short story which is included in Volume 4 of the 5 PKD short story > collections that are currently available. > > Jason > - -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 15:04:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Jolly On Tue, 21 May 2002, Miles Goosens wrote: > >however, I will argue to my grave. Cruise can -react- and -confront-, but I > >don't think he can -think- deeply on screen. I found the long closeups where > >he just looked intently blank tedious. Making invisable wheels turn is > >tough. Not many actors can do it well, it may be the most difficult trick of > >all. > > Thank you, thank you, thank you! Cruise is utterly incapable of projecting > any sort of inner life, and those scenes were agonizingly boring. Daniel Well, he sold his own inner life to L. Ron Hoover* many years back, so it kind of follows... Intelligence and insight do not work with with being a Diuretic*... * names may have been altered to avoid lawsuits. > FWIW, the only movie where I've ever thought Cruise did a capable job was > in JERRY MAGUIRE, where he essentially played himself: a vacuous playboy > striving to become a Real Live Boy, to become more than just a toothsome > smile in a sportscar. I have the feeling we've talked about this elsewhere, Miles - but what did you think of him in _Magnolia_ (or of the film itself, what the hell)? - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Any noise that is unrelenting eventually becomes music:: __Paula Carino__ np: disc 2 of some copmilation of the V-Roys someone made for me... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 16:06:12 -0400 From: "Ultimate Goal" Subject: Raymond Hitchcock: Fighting Cancer I'm bored at work...so I decided to look up some books buy Robyn's father. I've always wanted to read one. I came across one that threw me- Fighting Cancer: A Personal Story. Signed by Raymond Hitchcock. 1989. I felt really weird buying it, but I did anyway. When I read Tuesday's With Morrie, it made me sad and enlightened, but mostly just sad. Has anyone read Raymond's Fighting Cancer book? I wonder what it'll be like. Who has read Venus 13 or Archangel 006? Which one is better? Thanks in advance! Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 15:27:04 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Jolly On Tue, 21 May 2002, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Well, he sold his own inner life to L. Ron Hoover* many years back, so it > kind of follows... Intelligence and insight do not work with with being a > Diuretic*... diuretic, wow i didn't know they messed with pee. ron was a real winner and his sheep are right up there with him, except most of them are kinda,,, thick? i bet the majority of scientologists shop at the gap. i think deciduous comes closer when describing a scientologist. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 14:07:13 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: A Mint-in-Box Report on Tom Cruise At 09:44 PM 5/21/2002 +0000, melissa wrote: >They have also released a version of it as a hardcover book. It's shiny >and has that obnoxious "now a major motion picture" sticker on it. It's >long and thin and bound on the top edge so that you flip it like a police >notebook to read it. That almost sounds kind of cool, but I doubt it's worth whatever price tag they stick on it. At least they didn't release a novelization of the film as they did with "Total Recall," which was written by sci-fi/fantasy hack Piers Anthony. Eeeek! - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 17:18:28 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: Sinister? Happy? >>Anyone else somewhat lukewarm about She Was >Sinister but She Was Happy? > >Actually its one of my favorite tracks on the record and perhaps even on my list of all time faves. Love the violin work, the imagery, the skeptically joyous wave of the hand. love that line "a sinister little wave of a hand goes a long long way in these troubled times" both that one and 'filthy bird' (anyone worked out some guitar tab for either of them?) have been all on my all time list since i first heard robyn break them out in april of ninety five. the very basic guitar and violin have stuck with me every since. perhaps it helps to have someone in mind when listening to the song. >Letter is immaterial if the spirit rings true. i like that. it seems more pervasive an idea than just the way books get changed when they are made into movies. you could apply it to the way folks can get bogged down in the little details and miss the big picture. any real picture has to include the dark side. what's the real difference between chaotic good and chaotic evil if their methods are the same? is it all perspective? was humpty really pushed? how about mandatory minimum sentencing? and then there's those religious fundamentalists. it's enough to make you wanna go hide in a cave somewhere. kind of like the cigarette smoking man. > The only thing worse than having a job is not having a job. >just needing a job is the bad part. but that doesn't mean we should >all join a potato peeler's co-op and trade shiny lovers at lunch. or does >it? it does. follow your bliss; but just be aware from whence comest yon shine. ken "heaven knows i'm miserable now" the kenster np dead dog's eyeball k. mccarty http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0501-02.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 17:20:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Sinister? Happy? On Tue, 21 May 2002, gSs wrote: > all join a potato peeler's co-op and trade shiny lovers at lunch. "Trade shiny lovers"? Isn't that from a Gary Numan song? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Being young, carefree, having your whole life ahead of you, ::dancing the night away to celebrate... ::oh, and the untimely death of Jackson Pollock. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 17:32:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Jolly On Tue, 21 May 2002, Mike Wells wrote: > > Well, he sold his own inner life to L. Ron Hoover* many years back, so it > > kind of follows... Intelligence and insight do not work with with being a > > Diuretic*... > > I think there's a joke with the 'diuretic' and the 'education/prison' ship > he used to station off the CA coast, but I can't put it together... It's only fair to point out that the "diuretic" joke isn't really mine - I stole it from _Repo Man_. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::This is America. People do whatever the fuck they feel like doing.... ::As a result, this country has one of the worst economies in the world. __Neal Stephenson, SNOW CRASH__ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 15:31:49 -0700 From: "Aaron L." Subject: Total Recall At 02:07 PM 5/21/2002, Jason R. Thornton wrote: >That almost sounds kind of cool, but I doubt it's worth whatever price tag >they stick on it. At least they didn't release a novelization of the film >as they did with "Total Recall," which was written by sci-fi/fantasy hack >Piers Anthony. Eeeek! Actually, I have to take issue with this statement. Piers Anthony wrote _Total Recall_, the novel, long before the movie came out. Anthony's book was first published in 1986. The movie hit theaters in 1990. Here is a link to an image of the original cover of Anthony's novel: http://hollowstreets.net/tr-originalcover.jpg The book didn't make it past a first printing, but was re-published in 1989 to tie in with the movie, with a movie-tie-in cover (Schwarzenegger's face, etc.). Anthony does credit PKD for inspiration and concepts a la "We Can Remember It For You Wholesale," but he was so disappointed in the screenplay treatment that it got, that he asked that his name not be used in association with the film, and in the film credits, you don't see Anthony's name mentioned at all. The movie-tie-in paperback that was released along with the movie actually had some major changes made to it to better follow the story of the film, including changing the names of several characters and the removal of an entire chapter of the book. There was some contractual obligation remaining when he sold the rights to the book for use as a film, and he had no control over the release of that paperback, although he did get his name taken off the movie project. The credits of the movie, incidentally, retain Anthony's original wording of "Inspired by ... PKD." In case you haven't figured it out -- I am (or at least, was at one time) quite a fan of Piers Anthony. It was quite the fiasco at the time the movie was coming out -- I remember being fascinated by the author's rants about the whole process in his snailmail fan newsletter, to which I subscribed. I haven't read anything by Piers Anthony for years, but if you can get your hands on an original 1986 _Total Recall_ hardback (that printing never even made it to paperback), I'd recommend it to anyone. It's a quick read, and it reveals what incredible potential that story had, before Verhoeven's screenwriters tore it apart and turned it into a typical mindless Hollywood action film. Just my two cents. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 11:36:57 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: red and folk > My wife and I went shopping for paint on Saturday: we just bought a >house, and are in the process of moving in. On the way out the door, I >was trying to explain to her what shade or tint of red I'd like to >use in my office, and I wound up bagging my (vinyl) copy of _Discipline_ and >bringing it into the Sherwin-Williams store for comparison. > Yes, I am a prog-rock dork. Of sorts. I take it you mean as an accent colour, otherwise that would be one intense office! Re Scandinavian folk, all I can say is - Hedningarna!!! James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 19:59:48 -0400 From: *rand - buzup buzup buzup buzup buzup ah ha* Subject: i can't believe tom cruise is in my subject header Having time for a brief post I thought I'd say ... I dislike, bordering on hate, Tom Cruise. I saw "Eyes Wide Shut" simply because of Stanley Kubrick. The only movie I enjoyed with Tom Cruise in it was "Risky Business" ~ and I was a teenager when that came out in '83. ( I loved the Bob Seager part of course ;-} ) I do remember an okay T.C. in "Taps", which I saw for Timothy Hutton ... I detested "Rain Man" ~ to me it was a poor version of "Dominick and Eugene" and *I've* loved Dustin Hoffman ever since I saw "Marathon Man", and I thought both Tom and Dustin ( like I'm on a first name basis with them 8-} ) were awful. I mostly go to movies based on writers and directors ~ and a few actors ~ like Emma Thompson and John Malkovich ~ will inevitably drag me into the theatre and cough up $13.50. I didn't like the ending Spielberg tacked on to A.I. ~ however ~ Spielberg is a consummate director and I may 'have to' see "Minority Report". I don't 'expect' anything from author Philip Kindred Dick ~ his story was interpreted for "Blade Runner", as it will be for "Minority Report". I guess mostly, I do not expect Cruise to hold together a film. I think Spielberg can ~ even at his worst he's still incredibly gifted. And he's adapted special effects to filmmaking with an artist's eye ... imho. Changing topics ... about Robyn's book ~ I too am terrified it will be unreadable. I wish it were a book of short stories ... then I know I'd click with something. I hope Robyn is able to carry a narrative thread through a whole novel. I don't want Robyn's writing to be as bad as Tom Cruise's acting ~ it can't happen right? I need reassurance. *Drew ... congrats are in order :-} *Kay ~ with the weather so odd can't you spring backwards to 'spring cherry'? *Eddie Tews ... where are you? *Karen & Carole are darling women ~ I thought I'd say so officially. *Greatest of Quails ~ does lj share your Spielberg opinions? (i do) *Miles and Chris ~ in 5 minutes e.s.t. I watch the Buffy finale then the Angel finale. Wish I could talk to you two in person ~ but send email when you can. *James ~ 8 paintings a week ~ I'm very impressed. Sorry for all the naming of names ... I have little time to write private emails at the moment. Switching modes again ~ this time to geek ~ can anyone suggest a good burner programme? Nero came with my cd-burner ~ but Tim has the cd-rom so that means I'll never see it again. Do I have to get Nero or can I switch to something else? I'll just go fade back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Randi Toronto, Ontario, Canada *what scares you most will set you free* ~ Robyn Hitchcock *by endurance we conquer* ~ Sir Ernest Shackleton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 20:02:37 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: i can't believe tom cruise is in my subject header >I didn't like the ending Spielberg tacked on to A.I. ~ however ~ >Spielberg is a consummate director and I may 'have to' see "Minority >Report". >>Randi > >Toronto, Ontario, Canada > From everything I have heard Kubrick had the same ending, Stevie added nothing. Max(who really liked AI, dislikes Cruise, likes Cammeron Crowe and hated Vanilla Sky) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:06:12 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Robyn's Book On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 07:59 PM, *rand - buzup buzup buzup buzup buzup ah ha* wrote: > Changing topics ... about Robyn's book ~ I too am terrified it will be > unreadable. > > I wish it were a book of short stories ... then I know I'd click with > something. > > I hope Robyn is able to carry a narrative thread through a whole novel. > > I don't want Robyn's writing to be as bad as Tom Cruise's acting ~ it > can't happen right? > > I need reassurance. Hmmm, no reassurances on this end. I briefly met a woman a few months ago who was helping to edit Robyn's prose for said book and she informed me it would take nothing short of a miracle to pull together anything cohesive. Let's hope she was able to offer guidance where appropriate... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 22:13:53 -0300 From: "John Bastin" Subject: Re: where is eb? Did Eb drop off the list?? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 18:34:09 -0700 From: owner-fegmaniax-digest Subject: Sos! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 22:09:42 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: i can't believe tom cruise is in my subject header On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 07:02 PM, Maximilian Lang wrote: > From everything I have heard Kubrick had the same ending, Stevie added > nothing. Spielberg wrote the screenplay for A.I. after Kubrick died. Ian Watson worked on one, but I don't know how complete it was. - - Steve __________ Members of the Christ Community Church in Alamogordo, N.M., burned Harry Potter books, Star Wars items and works by Shakespeare and J.R.R. Tolkien, USA Today reported. Pastor Jack Brock called the Potter books "a masterpiece of satanic deception [that teaches] children how they can get into witchcraft." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 22:28:35 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Cruising for Dick! On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 11:20 AM, The Great Quail wrote: > Heh. And "Ubik" is perhaps my least favorite of his well-known novels. > I think his best are: "The Man in the High Castle," "Through a Scanner > Darkly," "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep," "Flow My Tears the > Policeman Said," and the VALIS trilogy.... But aren't *all* PKD novels equally well known? I think the next movie should be Eye In The Sky or The Three Stigmata Of Palmer Eldritch. But finding the proper director could be a problem. Every day, in every way, my car is getting better and better - Steve __________ "When we were getting ready to announce for the 1992 campaign, the Bush people said to us, 'Don't run this time -- wait four years and you'll have a free pass. If you do run, we'll destroy you.' And I said to Bill, 'What are they talking about -- how could they do that?' And now we're finding out." - Hillary Clinton to David Talbot, March 1998 ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #165 ********************************