From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #162 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, May 20 2002 Volume 11 : Number 162 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Ipod problems [Eleanore Adams ] Luna Weed. ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: RIP ["Russ Reynolds" ] har-har binks [drew ] Re: RIP [Terrence Marks ] Rush to download [Mike Swedene ] Luna [The Great Quail ] Steve Wars: Attack of the Drews [The Great Quail ] Re: Steve Wars: Attack of the Drews [Jeff Dwarf ] A little header protocol, please! [rosso@videotron.ca] Re: Woke up with Norwegian Wood [rosso@videotron.ca] Re: RIP [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Steve Wars: Attack of the Drews [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 20:29:57 -0700 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Ipod problems Have any of you had your Ipod crash? e ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 10:38:46 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Luna Weed. Hello, The first part of the Luna @ Maxwell's weed is closed. Copies are(for the time being) no longer available from me. I should have the discs out by Monday so the next leg should begin shortly. Thanks, Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 09:49:17 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: RIP >> "Only time the Who performed a song written by someone outside the group >> that wasn't a typical rock'n'roll cover song"? > > Umm....what about Shel "I can turn budding rock gods into mediocre R&B > cover bands that record my songs" Talmy? I know the Kinks recorded a couple of his songs but what did the Who ever record that was written by Shel Talmy? Flummoxed, - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 10:23:01 -0700 From: drew Subject: har-har binks > From: "Jason R. Thornton" [Hayden Christiansen as Anakin Skywalker] > There were a number of lines, or at least half-assed deliveries, > and not just this kid's, that had the audience audibly giggling. As did > one classic character's fight scene. Let's not mince words. The acting in Episode II was almost uniformly horrible. Christopher Lee was sleepwalking. Samuel L. Jackson uttered more catchphrases. Ewan MacGregor actually looked out of place cracking a smile. I was shocked, and while Episode I was bad, somehow I don't remember it being quite this badly performed. I guess I can blame the director to a certain extent, and also the execrable script. I feel like everyone, including Christiansen whom I felt was a good casting choice all things considered, could have turned in excellent performances. Scene for scene, it could have been a decent film if handled with a shred of intelligence and emotion. It was actually quite all right anytime there was no dialogue. I snickered all the way through at the lines and their delivery, but was tempted to join the audience in cheering at the classic character's fight scene. Though said character had been infuriating in the rest of the movie, spouting meaningless observations and making zero contribution to the plot or the activities of his brethren, it was a treat to finally see him in action. To my mind, the whole movie was worthwhile for just that scene. As for Jar Jar, all I can say is no wonder the Republic fell. I always wanted to like Luna but I could never manage it. I'd always be thrilled with the guitar -- very clean, simple, pretty -- and then Dean Wareham's whiny vocals would come in with some nonsensical and uninspiring melody and the whole effect would be ruined. I used to love Penthouse (the album, though the magazine's all right too), but when I tried to listen to it after a long hiatus a few months ago it did nothing for me, apart from the Bonnie & Clyde song at the end. I don't like Galaxie 500 either. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 14:04:38 -0400 From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: RIP Russ Reynolds wrote: > > >> "Only time the Who performed a song written by someone outside the group > >> that wasn't a typical rock'n'roll cover song"? > > > > Umm....what about Shel "I can turn budding rock gods into mediocre R&B > > cover bands that record my songs" Talmy? > > I know the Kinks recorded a couple of his songs but what did the Who ever > record that was written by Shel Talmy? I stand corrected. Could've sworn that he made them do Bald-Headed Woman. - -- Terrence Marks http://www.unlikeminerva.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 11:47:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Rush to download I found the rush album online, if any one wants the link to it, please email me off list as I do not wish to offend anyone. Herbie np-> Nick Drake ===== - --------------------------------------------- View my Websight & CDR Trade page at: http://midy.topcities.com/ _____________________________________________ LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 14:49:12 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: Luna I love Luna, and I think their new CD is pretty good -- better than the last one, if not up to snuff with the Bewitched to Pup Tent period. Once, our own Natalie Jane Jacobs remarked that Dean Wareham sounds like Kermit's cousin, Robin the Frog. This is a remarkable true statement. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 15:03:44 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: Steve Wars: Attack of the Drews Mild spoilers ensue.... Steve T. writes, >I have to respectfully disagree with you there Quail. I've been a >CG animator in the industry for the past 15 years and have to say >without a doubt that Yoda is by far the most expressive and >"believable" CG character I have seen to date. That may be true -- but with all due respect, my argument was actually that I prefer the muppet. No matter how realistic Yoda may look, like all CGI critters, he still *looks* like he's CGI. So the muppet Yoday may still *look* like a muppet, when it comes down to it, in the end, my brain accepts muppets as being more warm and realistic than CGI animations. I think the muppet Yoda radiates more personality. Perhaps because it's framework is still subject to the millions of random variations that true movement brings, and that CGI cannot yet capture -- CGI looks too "clean" for me. I personally think that CGI critters are done best when they are angular, quick, and insectile, such as the Bugs from Starship Troopers or the spider-hyena thing from the gladiator battle in "Attack of the Clones." > I was whooping and hollering "Go Yoda!" when he brandished his >light saber against Dooku. Well, hell yes! So was I. One review I read remarked he was like a "caffeinated frog with a glow stick." Heh heh.... >The cloth and hair moved in a very realistic and expected fashion >and hats off to a few ex-Blue Sky colleagues and peers over at ILM >for raising the bar once again. I do agree with you on these points, by the way -- this movie had the best CGI I think I've yet seen, and it did raise the bar. The silver spaceships of Naboo were incredible!!! I also enjoyed the little grace notes, such as the prop drone for the flagship, and the power-chord explosion when the asteroids were blown up. If anything, "Attack of the Clones" should get the Oscar for Sound Effects Editing. Lucas milked THX for all it was worth! >Next up - looking forward to Dreamworks' "Spirit, Stallion of the >Cimarron", Disney's "Lilo & Stitch", and Fox's "Minority Report". Man, I plan to watch the shit out of "Minority Report." Steven Speilberg doing Philip K. Dick! Oh man oh man! Drew writes, >Let's not mince words. The acting in Episode II was almost uniformly >horrible. I disagree. I think the acting was fine, it was the dialogue and direction that were crippling -- especially to Portman, who I don't really think is that good. >I was shocked, and while Episode I was bad, somehow I don't >remember it being quite this badly performed. Oh, it was much much worse -- watch it again! >I snickered all the way through at the lines and their delivery, but was >tempted to join the audience in cheering at the classic character's >fight scene. Though said character had been infuriating in the rest >of the movie, spouting meaningless observations and making zero >contribution to the plot or the activities of his brethren, it was a treat >to finally see him in action. Yeah -- that irked me too. In Empire Strikes Back," Yoda made actual wise comments. He had a sense of wisdom and presence. In this movie, he just advanced the plot. >As for Jar Jar, all I can say is no wonder the Republic fell. Ha! ROTFL! Though I did like the way that the baddies exploited Jar Jar. Indeed, he *is* somewhat responsible for the fall of the Republic!!!! - --Darth Quail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 14:46:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Steve Wars: Attack of the Drews The Great Quail wrote: > Mild spoilers ensue.... > > Drew writes, >> Let's not mince words. The acting in Episode II was almost >> uniformly horrible. > > I disagree. I think the acting was fine, it was the dialogue and > direction that were crippling -- especially to Portman, who I don't > really think is that good. Lucas didn't direct a movie between 1977 and 1999 (when Phantom came out), and he really doesn't seem to have a clue as to how to draw out the best in his actors, especially in scenes where they are basically having to "perform" with the CGIs. the only non-star wars or indiana jones movie he's had any script responsiblities for in the past 20 years is "Willow." it seems like a case of non-using certains skills, so they atrophied. for the third film, i really hope he swallows his pride and has someone else direct (or at least co-direct, and handle the human actors) and has someone come in to spruce up the dialogue. in today's Movie Answer Man column, someone throws out the theory that one other problem with the last two movies is the lack of an everyman type character a la Han Solo. http://www.suntimes.com/output/answ-man/sho-sunday-ebert191.html >> I was shocked, and while Episode I was bad, somehow I don't >> remember it being quite this badly performed. > > Oh, it was much much worse -- watch it again! >> I snickered all the way through at the lines and their delivery, but >> was tempted to join the audience in cheering at the classic >> character's fight scene. Though said character had been infuriating >> in the rest of the movie, spouting meaningless observations and >> making zero contribution to the plot or the activities of his >> brethren, it was a treat to finally see him in action. > > Yeah -- that irked me too. In Empire Strikes Back, Yoda made actual > wise comments. He had a sense of wisdom and presence. In this movie, > he just advanced the plot. > >> As for Jar Jar, all I can say is no wonder the Republic fell. well, the egotism of the Jedi certainly contributed as well. i was afraid coming into the prequels was that Lucas would cop out and try and keep the Jedi too perfect. his willingness to make their unwillingness to acknowledge that their connection force is being compromised, and failure to deal with that problem is ultimately more responsible than Jar Jar; if they were truly keeping their house in order, Jar Jar wouldn't have been put in the position he was in. that not one Jedi seems to be even vaguely suspicious of Palpatine.... > Ha! ROTFL! Though I did like the way that the baddies exploited Jar > Jar. Indeed, he *is* somewhat responsible for the fall of the > Republic!!!! though at least we now know why he had to be such a tool.... pun probably intended. ===== "This week, the White House says President Bush meant no disrespect when he referred to the Pakistani people as 'Pakis.' But just to be on the safe side, White House staffers have cancelled his trip to Nigeria" -- Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 19:47:16 -0400 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: A little header protocol, please! On 17 May 2002, at 11:20, glen uber wrote: [some stuff irrelevant to this posting] Could you fegs please restrict any swearing you feel might enhance your postings to the body of the letter rather than the header? I have 3 kids and don't want to have to chase them out of the room every time I open my mail client. Thanks for understanding. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 21:31:04 -0400 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: Re: Woke up with Norwegian Wood On 18 May 2002, at 20:56, Michael Wells wrote: > np: my guitar What is the sound of one hand tapping? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 22:04:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: RIP On Sun, 19 May 2002, Terrence Marks wrote: > > > Umm....what about Shel "I can turn budding rock gods into mediocre R&B > > > cover bands that record my songs" Talmy? > > I stand corrected. Could've sworn that he made them do Bald-Headed > Woman. They did do that one - it was a b-side of...something. I thought I had it, but I went down to my basement and dug through my box of old 45s - couldn't find it. But I'm almost certain they did it somewhere. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::the popularity of the gruesome FACES OF DEATH video series is ::apparently so great that a children's version is in production, ::to be called FACES OF OWIES. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 22:15:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Steve Wars: Attack of the Drews On Sun, 19 May 2002, The Great Quail wrote: > Man, I plan to watch the shit out of "Minority Report." Steven > Speilberg doing Philip K. Dick! Oh man oh man! Unfortunately, every time I see the preview I keep thinking Spielberg's exactly the *wrong* guy to do PKD. I'm still looking forward to that one...but I'm bracing myself for an onslaught of Hollywood "magic" that all but ruins it. Also, Tom Cruise bugs me - which is why I loved him in _Magnolia_, when he was Asshole 1st Class...fit him well! ps: I don't remember their being profanities in subject headers...did someone write "President Bush" up there? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, trying to decide which is tackier: attempting to get political mileage out of "ignoring" a series of many vague, indefinite warnings of hijackings, or attempting to raise partisan funds with images of Bush's post-9/11 acts. Or I just bitch about _The Bachelor_, and note that prostitution is perfectly legal in the US so long as it's on national TV and involves large enough sums... Pity the poor street-corner whore, who can't peddle her ass on national TV... J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::sex, drugs, revolt, Eskimos, atheism:: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:40:57 -0400 From: "Ultimate Goal" Subject: Any one have a time machine? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=872666171 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #162 ********************************