From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #145 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, May 6 2002 Volume 11 : Number 145 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Castle In The Sky In NYC [steve ] Re: put-downs [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #144 ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #144 ["Russ Reynolds" ] words are meaningful, especially sentences [drew ] "face to face with a polymath" ["Voodoo Ergonomics" ] Rhett Miller and Robyn at Largo ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] B&S NYC [FS Thomas ] Re: worthy site [gSs ] Time again ["May Apple" ] Re: worthy site ["Fric Chaud" ] Mexican God ["Aaron L." ] love me tender ["ross taylor" ] Re: Mexican God [Stewart Russell ] love me tender addendum ["ross taylor" ] RE: worthy site [gSs ] Re: worthy site [Stewart Russell ] RE: Tuesday Largo ["David Paris" (by way of in] Re: worthy site [gSs ] RE: Tuesday Largo ["Reynolds, Russ" ] RE: Tuesday Largo ["David Paris" ] Re: Mexican God ["Mike Wells" ] Re: Mexican God [Stewart Russell ] RE: Tuesday Largo [rosso@videotron.ca] OK, I gave Moulin Rouge another chance because you guys said so [rosso@vi] RE: Tuesday Largo ["Reynolds, Russ" ] happy clown, white clown [rosso@videotron.ca] Re: "face to face with a polymath" [Tom Clark ] Re: worthy site [Tom Clark ] Huitzilopochtli rules!!!!! [The Great Quail ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 14:53:57 -0500 From: steve Subject: Castle In The Sky In NYC Miyazaki's Castle In The Sky will be showing at the Tribeca Film Festival on May 11 at 7PM. It's part of the Family Festival. http://www.tribecafilmfestival.org - - Steve __________ "Miyazaki's latest animation feature (co-winner with 'Bloody Sunday' of the Berlin Golden Bear) more than justifies his status as Japan's most revered culture hero. What starts out as a fine example of the through-the-looking- glass kids' adventure genre becomes almost Shakespearean in its lyricism, breadth of vision and humanity." - Tony Rayns, Sight & Sound ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 12:00:23 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: put-downs >I like Robyn's: > >"The horror of you floats so close by my window / At >least when I die, your memory will too." I like his snide put-downs, too. The ones not directed at the person he's singing to, but just sort of thrown off to one side (like "you could vote for Labour then, you can't anymore", or the bit in "The president" about packing his parents off to an old people's home). >Though of course, I am still not sure that's actually an insult, >given that I read "Mexican God" in two completely separate ways! me too. "Time will destroy you like a Mexican god" - like a Mexican god would destroy you, or like time destroyed the Mexican gods? as for vitriolic putdowns, Elvis C is one of only a few that can beat the Verlaines' Graeme Downes: "if it wasn't for your playfulness I'd cauterise your useless mouth" "tell me what can you see with your television mentality?" "sharp as a pinstripe he grins like a leech upon a whale" "you're an embarrassment, to be so sick in reputation, you should be quarantined and never let out" "I don't mean to say you're infantile, but don't you ever listen to yourself? It's such a limited way to waste your time." "Go the way of all clouds, babe - blow away" James PS - wish me luck - my exhibition opens this evening! James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 21:13:17 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #144 > +brian in New Orleans ("Lucky the pig wears a hat with a brim") it's BUCKY! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 21:20:26 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #144 > but default's an awful name for a band, and Buckley Jr took 'Grace' as > an album name of note long ago. it's MUCKLEY Jr! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 23:28:51 -0700 From: drew Subject: words are meaningful, especially sentences I'm busy busy these days and don't have as much time to read my digests as I did even a week or two ago, but I'm glad I skimmed this one, if only for this portion of a sentence: > From: "Brian Huddell" > > I get a kick out of the fact that Stephen Thomas Erlewine, whose job it > is to be wrong about music for All Music Guide Word, indeed. I bought the new Departure Lounge album. I've only listened to it once and I was sick -- I can always tell when a fever is really a fever because suddenly only a handful of my CDs, mostly by Kate Bush and the Eurythmics, sound good to me. So I don't know if it's really as pretty but unremarkable as it sounded then. I'll let you know when I feel better and hear it again. > From: "Natalie Jane" > > So I've just had an extraordinarily shitty week, the highlight of which > was > receiving a deep and extremely gory cat bite on my left (dominant) hand. Ouch. :( > From: Tom Clark > Not musical, but classic nonetheless: > "I'll eat pancakes on your grave." > -Bruce McCullough, The Kids In The Hall I like pancakes. > From: "Natalie Jane" > > Mmm.... pancakes. Whoa. I swear I wrote mine before reading this. If my cats bite my hand I'm suing you. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 May 2002 23:34:49 -0700 From: "Voodoo Ergonomics" Subject: "face to face with a polymath" . , . both are good and ad-free. hey, two-outta-three ain't bad. you know, commander lang has a phrase for people like you: insurrectionist pinko wrecker. [from ] heh, maybe nader should try that approach in ought-four! you *know* pat robertson would be lovin' it.... _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 06:22:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Rhett Miller and Robyn at Largo This is from an Old 97's mailing list describing Rhett Miller's performance. It's interesting how the writer reported about Rhett's outfit -- wonder who gave them that idea? Does anybody have a recording of Robyn's performance with Rhett? Considering Jon Brion is recording Rhett's solo album, I think it's fair to assume Robyn will make an appearance on it, BTW. >well tonight was another really fun show at largo. kevin sesha opened, and >then rhett came on stage wearing some kind of blue psychedelic shirt half >unbuttoned. the club was unusually sparse tonight, at least for a rhett >show on a saturday. but he didn't half-ass the show at all. to make up for >being silly and devoting a lot of his stage banter to the topic of douche >bags, he played 24 songs and took a load of requests from the audience. > >1) big brown eyes > >2) hover - the one i thought was helicopter ladies before. it's been really >growing on me. > >3) our love - the wagner/kafka one, which elektra deemed too "brainiac" to >be a single. > >4) singular girl > >5) terrible vision (?) - a new one! > >6) queen bitch - david bowie cover. his spit got quite a good arch and made >it to our table during this one. ;) > >7) come around > >8) doreen - rockin'! > >9) haphazardly > >10) this is what i do (?) - another new one. i like it. very >mythologies-like. he called it disco-like. > >11) lonely holiday > >12) nervous heart > >13) things that disappear > >14) point shirley (?) - sang this with robyn hitchcock for the new album. > >15) niteclub > >16) jagged > >17) she loves the sunset > >18) bloomington > >19) indefinitely > >encore: > >20) won't be home no more - yay! he hasn't played this one for a while so i >was glad to hear it again. > >// designs on you - he started playing this one but then forgot how! argh. :( > >21) question > >22) busted afternoon - my friend got the honor of requesting this one >because she had the name of one of rhett's ex-girlfriends. > >23) this is the moonlight > >24) melt show > >rhett was sans erica tonight, but did say that they would be getting >married in a week and a half. also, he's flying to new york tomorrow for a >photo shoot with maxim. Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 09:16:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: worthy site (apologies for crossposting, but...) www.saveinternetradio.org The URL's self-explanatory, i suppose - the gist is that Congress is poised to saddle internet radio with a downright confiscatory copyright scheme (note: on-air radio is exempt from such a requirement, the reasoning being that it's a promotional venue) that is all but certain to bankrupt 99% of existing internet radio outlets. The only ones that would be able to survive would be (surprise) those run by the very record companies to whom those fees would be paid... (Of course, non-US internet radio wouldn't have a problem here - yet another instance of shortsighted this bill is. Hey - maybe US internet radio can bring suit under NAFTA? (which I normally hate, but hey...) - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Being young, carefree, having your whole life ahead of you, ::dancing the night away to celebrate... ::oh, and the untimely death of Jackson Pollock. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 07:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: FS Thomas Subject: B&S NYC Ahoy, all. Any chance that any of the NY-area fegs (or, more to the point, NY-area tapers) went to the Belle & Sebastian show last night at the Hammerstein? I went (stellar show) and recorded it but, for the first time in probably four years, botched the session. Any help would be greatly appreciated. - -ferris. PS: I've got the high-quality MP3s of the NYC RH show ready to post given a location to shuffle them off to. Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 09:58:12 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: worthy site > Hey - maybe US internet radio can bring suit under NAFTA? a truism for every sensible far winger is that they all moderate centrally, eventually. other party bound brand loyalists are naturally reduced in regional skirmishes between shifting left and right border curtains. Greg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 15:08:59 +0000 From: "May Apple" Subject: Time again Quail: >Though of course, I am still not sure that's actually an insult, >given that I read "Mexican God" in two completely separate ways! Heh. And they are? I usually read it pretty obviously-- as against any god one creates. That means it can be -- god as in a religious God, your own ego, any uncaring person you've ever cared far too much for or any goal, ideal, love, purpose you've ruthlessly and idiotically sacrificed for. I love how elastic it is. And I love loudly singing along. With gusto. - ------------- I dreamt the other night of paintings, all done in this weird sort of Deco El Greco style I havent seen before. Woke up and thought -- need to try this. When actualy doing so I registered something else. That Deco actually got me into the 20th century for once. Usually my influences are older. And it hit me why I like old stuff. Not cause its old and familiar, au contraire, because, to me, its new and stange. Im a child from the 50s/60s. I grew up in NY. Lots of glass towers, modernism, modernism everywhere I looked. My mother wore Balenciaga sack dresses and my dad dressed like early James Bond. They wore sunglasses and used kidney-shaped ashtrays. Smoking cigerretes made you look sexy. But the old was exotic. The old was mine. It helped me see things differently. I could make a private world from it. Now of course the 50s/60s is old and the young lap it up, making private worlds from it. Why am I saying all this -- well, besides the fact that Im a longwinded rectal plug(heh--nice observation Wells) Im reading the link Shell sent in bout the bus tour on the Isle of Wight(Id say "shit i", but my eyes are green so it wouldn't work) and thinking how funky the old gear-challanged bus is. Old stuff. Old stuff to make a private world out of now, a now thats more original than the current predictable now, a now which in Robyn's case, he gets to share. - --------------------------- Time, time, time, see whats become of me ... Kay PS--when I tried to replicate a paintings from my dream, it, of course, came out all different. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 13:14:43 -0400 From: "Fric Chaud" Subject: Re: worthy site On 6 May 2002, at 9:58, gSs wrote: > a truism for every sensible far winger is that they all moderate > centrally, eventually. other party bound brand loyalists are naturally > reduced in regional skirmishes between shifting left and right border > curtains. Ever body, whether well-traveled, can benefit from good curtains that can survive the ocasionnal party. But what is that to fegmaniax? - -- peeing just contiminates the voice -- RH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 08:31:30 -0700 From: "Aaron L." Subject: Mexican God I remember hearing an interview with Robyn in which he talked about the inspiration for "Mexican God" being a visit to Central/South America in which he saw the statues of Aztec/Inca gods, dilapidated and crumbling due to the passage of time. Thus, "Time will destroy you like a Mexican God" = "Time wll destroy you like time destroyed the Mexican Gods." I remember that at the time, this was a bit of a revelation, because I had already heard that lyric as "Time will destroy you like a Mexican God destroys one." I wish I could remember where I saw or read that interview. It was soon after _JfS_ was released. Maybe someone else can place it? BayardTheArchivist? Hehe. I have something to add about the Bad Seeds live, but I have to run to work or I will be late. I guess that will have to wait. Aaron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 11:37:46 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: love me tender Insults-- Thinking them over, it seems to me EC's 1st 3 albums (& most of the extra stuff) are 99 and 44/100 per cent insult, right? I'd have to go back to the list, but I think it left out a lot from the ones I know by heart. Then, IMO, w/ Get Happy there started to be something closer to a mix of put-down & non-put-down. I can't remember, but wasn't it around then that his "Blind, ignorant n---" remark about Ray Charles happened? Even tho he didn't directly address it until Punch the Clock? - --- Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Mexican God-- least when I die, your memory will too." Quail-- >Though of course, I am still not sure that's actually an insult, >given that I read "Mexican God" in two completely separate ways! My two ways: 1) I'm pretty happy w/ how disjointed the song is & often willing to let it stay that way but 2) sometimes I like to see a sort of narrative or at least a series of charactors -- the observer in the 1st verse, the person who refuses to observe in the 2nd, the victim in the 3rd (tho it's the most disjointed; if so "my memory" dying is a state- ment of his grief), and the political oppressor/Atec priest in the last. So the 2nd gives it a more political bent, while the 1st take makes it more just about entropy. Ross Taylor "everybody loves you so much girl I just don't know how you stand the strain" Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 11:43:09 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Mexican God "Aaron L." wrote: > > Thus, "Time will destroy you like a Mexican God" = > "Time wll destroy you like time destroyed the Mexican Gods." I remember > that at the time, this was a bit of a revelation, because I had already > heard that lyric as "Time will destroy you like a Mexican God destroys one." I never heard it like this. To me, it has always been in the spirit of, "So, who's afraid of Cihuacoatl these days?". Maybe it's a NAm/UK usage difference. Stewart (who knows that Cihuacoatl was/is a goddess... and YOU can put that obsidian dagger down RIGHT NOW...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 11:44:34 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: love me tender addendum I also loved Costello's put down of Bonnie Bramlet (who punched him out for his Ray Charles comment): "She rose to fame on one EC's back but she's not going to do it again!" Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 10:43:12 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: RE: worthy site On Mon, 6 May 2002, Poole, R. Edward wrote: > > a truism for every sensible far winger is that they all moderate > > centrally, eventually. other party bound brand loyalists are naturally > > reduced in regional skirmishes between shifting left and right border > > curtains. > > Ummm, OK. This seems a bit non sequitor-ish in response to the internet > radio thread. Or am I missing something here? It was actually in response to the last sentence and the writer's new found affection for NAFTA, which is itself actually non-sequitorian based on his previous reflections and is in fact about as likely as a nesting resplendent quetzel just south of Prague. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 11:50:20 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: worthy site gSs wrote: > > ... in fact about as likely as a nesting > resplendent quetzel just south of Prague. Don't all quetzals nest just south of Prague, if you use the appropriate scale (or drink enough Urquell)? There's one very lost albatross in Shetland, which every year takes a left at the equator instead of a right, and wonders why it never finds a mate. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 11:47:15 -0400 From: "David Paris" (by way of invader woj ) Subject: RE: Tuesday Largo I haven't noticed this posted yet.... This what I remember (in not exactly the actual order they were played): Cafe Largo 4/30/02 Mexican God A soft boys song The President 4th time around (Dylan) Baby Blue (Dylan) Raymond Chandler Evening Unprotected Love One long Pair of Eyes Listening to The Higsons Sleeping with your Devils Mask Queen Elvis A John Lennon/Beatles song I'm so lonely (Beatles) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 10:56:09 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: worthy site On Mon, 6 May 2002, Fric Chaud wrote: > Ever body, whether well-traveled, can benefit from good curtains that > can survive the ocasionnal party. But what is that to fegmaniax? Hey, you guys are just pissed over that whole Mexican debacle aren't you? gSs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 09:09:04 -0700 From: "Reynolds, Russ" Subject: RE: Tuesday Largo > I'm so lonely (Beatles) ? No such Beatles song. "Yer Blues", maybe? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 09:38:47 -0700 From: "David Paris" Subject: RE: Tuesday Largo Yeah, that's it. I've remembered the other Lennon song Robyn did at Tuesday's Largo show; I believe the song is called "Cold Turkey". It was great. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Reynolds, Russ Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:09 AM To: 'fegmaniax@smoe.org'; fegmaniax-announce@smoe.org Subject: RE: Tuesday Largo > I'm so lonely (Beatles) ? No such Beatles song. "Yer Blues", maybe? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 12:00:01 -0500 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Re: Mexican God Stewart Russell opines: > > Thus, "Time will destroy you like a Mexican God" = > > "Time wll destroy you like time destroyed the Mexican Gods." I remember > > that at the time, this was a bit of a revelation, because I had already > > heard that lyric as "Time will destroy you like a Mexican God destroys one." > > I never heard it like this. To me, it has always been in the spirit of, > "So, who's afraid of Cihuacoatl these days?". Maybe it's a NAm/UK usage > difference. That's the way I've always taken it. An eroded and lichen-covered remnant, stripped of emotional power/control. I saw the '99 show at Metro with my wife's sister, who's not a regular RH listener. I still remember her audible gasp when Robyn dropped the "at least when I die, your memory will too" bomb. > (who knows that Cihuacoatl was/is a goddess... and YOU can put that > obsidian dagger down RIGHT NOW...) Good hedge. You just never know. Michael suitably impressed that someone knows who Cihuacoatl is, let alone can spell it correctly ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 13:44:30 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Mexican God Mike Wells wrote: > > Good hedge. You just never know. Well, I ain't just a Quaker for the huge discount on breakfast cereal ... > suitably impressed that someone knows who Cihuacoatl is, let alone can spell > it correctly I plead the Web as my exo-brain. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 15:44:57 -0400 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: RE: Tuesday Largo On 6 May 2002, at 10:16, Reynolds, Russ wrote: > That would be "Laugh Laugh" by the Beau Brummels...I don't think I can post > to the list from here so go ahead and forward if necessary. Ah! I was *this* close about 30 seconds ago. I'd guessed the Buckinghams (not Mersey, but would-be-Mersey). I just opened up my email client to check it out with you, and there's my answer. At least I'll sleep tonight. Thanks. Hmmm. I wonder what the original thread was about? I presume because you told me to tell the list that what we said was of some relevance. > > -russ > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rosso@videotron.ca [mailto:rosso@videotron.ca] > > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:21 AM > > To: Reynolds, Russ > > Subject: RE: Tuesday Largo > > > > > > On 6 May 2002, at 9:09, Reynolds, Russ wrote: > > > > > > I'm so lonely (Beatles) > > > > > > ? No such Beatles song. "Yer Blues", maybe? > > > > I remember something that was sung in harmony and went: > > "lonely, I'm so lonely". I thought it was "There's a place", but > > it seems it isn't. It's one of their earlier numbers. > > > > - -- The RussRoss thing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 15:54:35 -0400 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: OK, I gave Moulin Rouge another chance because you guys said so All it did was irritate me further and trigger an old memory of a show described in Fahrenheit 451 called something like "the Happy Clown" show. The fireman's wife and her friends all watch it, and when asked "but what is it about" are unable to answer. But it's colourful and makes them feel good. I still couldn't make it to the end. I've never cared less about the characters in any movie, not even Rocky Horror. Just a bunch of cardboard cut-outs with sparkle paint on them. This week I rented Eyes Wide Shut, which offered arguably more for the eye and a plot to boot. Not a great film, but great in comparison to Moulin Rouge. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 10:53:50 -0700 From: "Reynolds, Russ" Subject: RE: Tuesday Largo original reference was part of a set list...I was thinking maybe you were at this show but now I'm guessing you were just trying to think of a Beatles song with "I'm So Lonely" in it. Now I fear we've probably stirred up some confusion as to what song he actually performed, but I'm sure it'll be all sorted out in about a month. For the record, I'm subbed to the list at my home address but only the fegannounce here at work. I responded to the set list post and I guess maybe it DID go to the list which explains how you saw it (I didn't realize when I got your response that you were not the same person who posted the set list). - -rUss. > -----Original Message----- > From: rosso@videotron.ca [mailto:rosso@videotron.ca] > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:45 PM > To: Reynolds, Russ > Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: RE: Tuesday Largo > > > On 6 May 2002, at 10:16, Reynolds, Russ wrote: > > > That would be "Laugh Laugh" by the Beau Brummels...I don't > think I can post > > to the list from here so go ahead and forward if necessary. > > Ah! I was *this* close about 30 seconds ago. I'd guessed the > Buckinghams (not Mersey, but would-be-Mersey). I just opened > up my email client to check it out with you, and there's my answer. > > At least I'll sleep tonight. Thanks. > > Hmmm. I wonder what the original thread was about? I presume > because you told me to tell the list that what we said was of some > relevance. > > > > > -russ > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: rosso@videotron.ca [mailto:rosso@videotron.ca] > > > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 11:21 AM > > > To: Reynolds, Russ > > > Subject: RE: Tuesday Largo > > > > > > > > > On 6 May 2002, at 9:09, Reynolds, Russ wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm so lonely (Beatles) > > > > > > > > ? No such Beatles song. "Yer Blues", maybe? > > > > > > I remember something that was sung in harmony and went: > > > "lonely, I'm so lonely". I thought it was "There's a place", but > > > it seems it isn't. It's one of their earlier numbers. > > > > > > > > -- > The RussRoss thing. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 16:00:07 -0400 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: happy clown, white clown Waddevah! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 11:56:47 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: "face to face with a polymath" on 5/5/02 11:34 PM, Voodoo Ergonomics at etews@hotmail.com wrote: > portal?> > > , . both are good and > ad-free. hey, two-outta-three ain't bad. > Wow. These might even be useful if they contained more than just anti-war links. > > just get rid of the ads!> > > you know, commander lang has a phrase for people like you: insurrectionist > pinko wrecker. I just consider myself a guy who wants to be able to have a single page that consolidates links to information that is important to me. Excuse me for being so shallow as to be interested in sports, finance, and entertainment. - -tc, still looking... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 12:00:46 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: worthy site on 5/6/02 7:16 AM, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey at jenor@csd.uwm.edu wrote: > (apologies for crossposting, but...) > > www.saveinternetradio.org > Absolutely. This issue is huge and must be dealt with. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 15:58:00 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Huitzilopochtli rules!!!!! I have always thought that the meaning behind "Mexican God" was a bit ambiguous, because I think the singer's relationship to the object seems ambivalent. I read it as either: 1. A nasty abjuration of a nasty person/object/event best forgotten, or 2. A rueful wish to eventually forget someone that the singer once desperately loved, and just wishes to have finally gone from their mind. I personally favor the second one; that is, at least, how I "hear" the song in my imagination. I also wonder at the first stanza; he seems to be referring to some concrete object, like a figurehead, which of course returns in the later imagery.... - --Quail * * * * * * Chip-chip-chipper up in the crow's nest Upside down face but it still saw a lot Flaking off, breaking off, crumbled and cracking Time will destroy you like a Mexican god Dreaming your eyes away, closed to the future Pray for amnesia to finish you off This is the evil I wished on so many Time will destroy you like a Mexican god Moon in a cup, crushed garlic and babies Sailors all stagnant and bloating and rough The horror of you floats so close by my window At least when I die, your memory will too Cruel, magnificent, roasting your people I am secure at the end of your rod Cut out my heart and it flies to the ceiling Time will destroy you like a Mexican god ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #145 ********************************