From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #133 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, April 23 2002 Volume 11 : Number 133 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Our song [Stewart Russell ] bottom line boots ["Mike Hooker" ] Robyn Hitchcock's Best? [theodius ] Re: really sorry [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: really sorry [Miles Goosens ] kissing book ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Milkweed Wood ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] geeks, freaks, or music aficionados [rand ] RE: any chance... tree question ["Timothy Reed" ] It must be catching, this rejoining thing.... [Marcy Tanter ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #132 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: did you fegs get this NME list? ["Rob" ] Re: did you fegs get this NME list? ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Stupidly happy [rosso@videotron.ca] Chicago Tree ["Michael Wells" ] Re: really sorry [invader woj ] Re: geeks, freaks, or music aficionados [Terrence Marks ] Re: Croc Gig? ["victorian squid" ] Seattle? Sublime! [The other Mr Feg ] Reap: Linda Boreman [Jason Miller ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #132 ["Brian Hoare" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:37:38 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Our song Spring Cherry wrote: > > I want Feg to field a team on "Beat the Geeks." but true geeks don't compete in anything that they're not assured of winning. And isn't a team of geeks an oxymoron? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:49:00 -0400 From: "Mike Hooker" Subject: bottom line boots hi, i mailed a bunch of bottom line discs out and already fucked someone. by mistake he got an edited set of songs only. i hope i didnt do that en masse , but if anyone else out there got hosed, tell me right way and i'll make it right. thanks take at look at my music trading list ( new URL) http://hometown.aol.com/mhooker216/myhomepage/index.html have fun, Mike Hooker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 12:40:12 -0700 (PDT) From: theodius Subject: Robyn Hitchcock's Best? Greetings all, we're doing a poll at the RobynHitchcockClub and it's open to the public. To take the poll just follow this link: http://theodiusx.freepolls.com/cgi-bin/polls/001/poll_center.htm So far, I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS is un-beatable. cheers, theo http://www.theos-place.com Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:01:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: really sorry On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Miles Goosens wrote: > smoe.org uses a program called "Demime" that automatically strips away HTML > formatting, thus saving listowners like woj and myself a lot of trouble > dealing with bounced posts from Outlook Express, Hotmail, and other enemies > of plain text. Miles: can we set Demime loose in the world to rid it of the scourge of mimes? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, busy at work in the Dept. of Obvious Jokes J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::[clever or pithy quote]:: __[source of quote]__ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:34:12 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: really sorry At 03:01 PM 4/22/2002 -0500, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >Miles: can we set Demime loose in the world to rid it of the scourge of >mimes? No. It might consume the classic NEWHART episode where Michael's season-long descent into madness reaches absolute bottom (he becomes a mime, of course). There's also a slight chance that all footage of Harpo Marx might be lost. Scientists are currently working on converting A DAY AT THE RACES to bin-hex as a test case for a possible technology that might allow us to preserve the important parts of our mime heritage while letting Demime perform its intended function. >--Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, busy at work in the Dept. of Obvious Jokes Say hi to Jay Leno for me! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 13:41:11 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: kissing book Any of you Portlanders, or anyone else for that matter, ever hear of any indie band from your area called The Kissing Book? I saw them play at a house party down here, sans their drummer, along with a tiny band out of LA called New Bethel. Actually, I liked New Bethel a little better - The Kissing Book were a little mopey for my taste (and my tastes run pretty far into the realm of mopey-ness), but they had this cool Chet Baker-ish vibe going. I'm thinking they might be a little peppier with some percussion. Anyone heard their album? Jason ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:00:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Milkweed Wood > From: "Natalie Jane" > > re. band names: > > > >>Milkweed Hill > > There actually is a band called Milkweed, and they are an alt-country band, > surprise surprise. And we can't forget Milkwood, Ric Ocasek and Ben Orr's (sorry, Richard Otcasek and Ben Orzechowski's) band before The Cars: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5654/ Then again, maybe we *can* forget Milkwood. NP: Matching Mole, "Instant Kitten" Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:10:13 -0400 From: rand Subject: geeks, freaks, or music aficionados Well, since I've de-lurked I've opened my mouth wider and wider. "See I have a mouth too ... always have had one ... kinda known for it" ~ Cordy Chase Anyway ... I see what movie people like and don't like ... maybe it's love and loathe ;-} I have a vhs copy of Moulin Rouge (which many people pronounce wrong ... grrr ... argh ... ) sitting on my desk. Now I'm afraid to watch it! But I have a question ... where oh where has the music talk gone where oh where has it been? Being in the hospital on and off I've missed out on a lot of radio. I need to be in the know. What cds could I be buying? What new bands are people listening too? I've always counted on the feg-list to help me weed out my musical choices ... and 'lo and behold ... no music talk! What's going on? I'm dying to buy an album that's not an album by someone I already know. What's everyone listening to? Has anyone ever heard of 'Kristen Barry'? I heard one song by her and it was pretty good. That's my contribution, teeny as it is, and I hope y'all know a lot more than me. fading back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Randi *what scares you most will set you free* ~ Robyn Hitchcock *by endurance we conquer* ~ Sir Ernest Shackleton (thanks james) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 17:17:29 -0400 From: "Timothy Reed" Subject: RE: any chance... tree question Sign me up to the tree once one starts. I have a burner and am happy to be a branch. Tim > We actually have the tree set up from the last two go-rounds so it's > actually ready to go when called for, and won't take much time to > update and get moving. If Mike Swedene is willing to help me out > again, we can just go forth from there, if there's enough interest. > *And* if someone will provide me with a master copy for the tree of > whatever shows people want to tree. > > jill (the other one) > > > > > > >Is there any chance of setting up a tree for the NY shows? A lot of us > >would love to trade, but don't have as large a collection as those who > >taped the shows. I volunteer to be a branch. > > > >Thanks. > > > >Jill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 16:13:36 -0500 From: Marcy Tanter Subject: It must be catching, this rejoining thing.... Hey all! We've just rejoined after about a year off, too! Glad to see the old folks and some new ones. We've missed Fegs, just didn't have time to read all the messages. Hope you're all treating my friend Eb well...! Marcy :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 00:13:07 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: geeks, freaks, or music aficionados - -- rand is rumored to have mumbled on Montag, 22. April 2002 17:10 Uhr -0400 regarding geeks, freaks, or music aficionados: > I'm dying to buy an album that's not an album by someone > I already know. > > What's everyone listening to? The Strokes. Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Winter is coming." (George R. R. Martin, A Song of Ice and Fire) [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 18:32:05 -0400 From: rand Subject: did you fegs get this NME list? The NME's 50 most influential artists: 1 The Smiths 2 The Beatles 3 Stone Roses 4 David Bowie 5 The Sex Pistols 6 Oasis 7 Radiohead 8 The Jam 9 U2 10 Public Enemy 11 Happy Mondays 12 The Clash 13 Nirvana 14 Elvis Presley 15 Joy Division 16 Blur 17 The Strokes 18 The Rolling Stones 19 The Verve 20 Bob Marley 21 The Fall 22 Prodigy 23 The Velvet Underground 24 REM 25 Frankie Goes To Hollywood 26 Dexy's Midnight Runners 27 Beastie Boys 28 T Rex, Jesus and Mary Chain 30 The Specials 31 Manic Street Preachers 32 Roxy Music 33 The Pixies 34 Iggy Pop 35 The Pogues 36 Primal Scream, Frank Sinatra 38 Bob Dylan 39 Blondie 40 Eminem 41 Culture Club 42 Madonna 43 Marvin Gaye 44 Pulp 45 Michael Jackson 46 The Charlatans 47 Echo and the Bunnymen 48 The KLF 49 Neil Young 50 PJ Harvey & here's the GUARDIAN story which gives NME's criteria: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,685630,00.html I don't know about the Smiths in first place ... (don't flame me) but number one on the 50 Most *Influential*. They never influenced me that much. fading back into yesterday before tomorrow comes, Randi *what scares you most will set you free* ~ Robyn Hitchcock *by endurance we conquer* ~ Sir Ernest Shackleton ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 10:33:51 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #132 >Double yay!!!! (Best news I've heard all day - on the other hand, it's only >8:40 am.) I must remember to tell my Kiwi hairdresser the next time I see >him. I was asking him whether he liked "Lord of the Rings," and he said >yes, but was baffled as to how they kept sheep from wandering into every >scene. He has also recommended a NZ band called the Skeptics. I've never >heard of them. James? I know *of* them, but I don't have anything by them. They were a bit too industrial for my taste. ISTR the sounded a bit like very early Hunters and Collectors. Their best known track (and the only one I've got on tape anywhere) was called "AFFCO" (pronounced as one word, not as initials - believe it or not, named after one of NZ's biggest frozen meat companies). >But, I will say this. I always get a giggle whenever I see Ewan McGregor in a >popular movie, because of what I saw him do in "Velvet Goldmine." Added a >whole new light to the Obi-Wan Kenobi character, if you ask me. heh! It's like trying to watch "Gandhi" immediately after watching "Sexy Beast"! >Newton was one weird dude. I read a psychological study of him once by some >Riech-influenced shrink that was quite harrowing. I'll take Goerthe over him >any day--even if Goethe was "wrong" about optics. I like Kepler alot, and I >don't think he deformed his eyeballs. But he connected the golden mean to >the order of the planets, among many other things. I really admire Dee, he >explored and connected alot of different stuff. But in some ways--is the >whole Enochian trip that different from what he did with chartmaking for >explorers/pirateers like Drake and Hawkins? as far as optics are concerned, if you want to find an intriguing earlky source (this might be very difficult to track down, mind you) then try looking for a translation of the works of Ibn Al Haytham (sometimes called Alhasan or Alhazen). He was one of the great Arabian philosopher scientists of the (I think) 11th century, and was pehaps the greatest researcher on optics and astronomy between the times of Ptolemy and Copernicus. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:42:54 +0100 From: "Rob" Subject: Re: did you fegs get this NME list? On 22 Apr 2002 at 18:32, rand wrote: > The NME's 50 most influential artists: > > 1 The Smiths [snip] > I don't know about the Smiths in first place ... (don't flame me) but > number one on the 50 Most *Influential*. > > They never influenced me that much. > > Ah, but you're not an NME reader I think. IIRC the positions were based on criteria such as column inches dedicated to the band, readers letters, polls and the like. Perhaps if you had read the NME the Smiths would have influenced you. (I think Belle & Sebastian must have read the NME a lot!) Good to see you back, btw. - -- Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:49:35 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: did you fegs get this NME list? At 06:32 PM 4/22/2002 -0400, rand wrote: >I don't know about the Smiths in first place ... (don't flame me) but >number one on the 50 Most *Influential*. I'd definitely put them on the list, but I doubt they'd be that high. And, as much as I like The Strokes, I doubt I'd even put them on the list at all at this point - and certainly not above The Velvet Underground and Iggy Pop. And Oasis above the Rolling Stones? And what the hell is Eminem doing on there, but not Dr. Dre? I can think of about 20 "electronica" artists I'd put on there before Prodigy. And whom exactly did Dexy's Midnight Runners influence? Jason ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 19:34:59 -0400 From: invader woj Subject: largo-a-go-go i've heard that the largo answering machine is saying that robyn is (1) playing there on the 27th and the 30th and (2) sitting in on the friday night jon brion shenanigans. can anyone in the los angeles area confirm this? i don't have the phone number handy or i would myself. thanks, woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:55:35 -0400 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: Stupidly happy I'm at the computer right now (surprised?) and just beside the keyboard is the Wasp Star booklet. Seems my 13 year old Britney fan daughter has been listening to it. The only time that tops that is when my youngest (about 3 at the time) would sit in the bathroom and sing "my wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiife and my dead wife". Uch! I still can't get the taste of Moulin Rouge out of my mind. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 19:42:28 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Chicago Tree Well, the 4-16-02 Chicago show is nearly ready to go. I'm not entirely sold on the final mix yet, but I think it's close enough to get the tree branches organized. The show is two discs, d1 "Main Set" is ~62min long and d2 "Encores" is ~32min long, and they sound eerily like what you might expect an English singer/songwriter performing with reverb in an echoey room to sound like. There's also some clumsy mic movement courtesy of me in a couple spots, but the setlist IS fantastic. Email me at this addy in the next week or so if you're interested, and please note your preference to being a branch, leaf, etc. I'll be going on vacation over the weekend, and will pick up emails and put the tree together on 4/30 so there's no rush. To those who have already contacted me - and received a response - you're set and there's no need to do so again. And to those who have offered encouragement and advice behind the scenes, my heartfelt thanks - this means you rossO, mikeH and especially one mr. ferris scott thomas, programmer. Michael "one loooooong pair of thighs" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 20:43:31 -0400 From: invader woj Subject: Re: really sorry when we last left our heroes, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey exclaimed: >Miles: can we set Demime loose in the world to rid it of the scourge of >mimes? but then we'd have to rename it to the olive load vigilante. +w ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:18:22 -0400 From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: geeks, freaks, or music aficionados > -- rand is rumored to have mumbled on Montag, 22. > April 2002 17:10 Uhr -0400 regarding geeks, freaks, or music aficionados: > > > I'm dying to buy an album that's not an album by someone > > I already know. > > > > What's everyone listening to? Pentangle and Fairport Convention... Neither of which I have the critical ability to describe, but dang, Bert Jansch can play guitar - -- Terrence Marks http://www.unlikeminerva.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:52:07 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Croc Gig? Anyone have a review or a setlist? Anyone record it? Despondent Flyers fan, Max _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:55:59 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Re: Croc Gig? ?pr 2002 21:52:07 Maximilian Lang wrote: >Anyone have a review or a setlist? Anyone record it? Ok, I really didn't want to be first to post, but someone has to. I know that at least one taping did occur but am not sure if it was successful- there was some talk about how the tape might have run out? Eddie? What up? I also was not taking notes on the setlist, so will sort of briefly jot down (what I perceived as the) highlights and lowlights, in no particular order. On the definite plus side, the setlist was -quite- varied. I had only heard 3 or 4 of the songs live before and as you are all aware, I may not have seen as many Robyn shows as say, Nick W., but I've definitely seen a few. I almost didn't bother to make the trip to Seattle from Portland, especially considering it was a weeknight and these days I'm the sort of dull individual who usually goes to bed around ten and rarely later than 11. Three hours is also a fairly long way to go just to see Robyn play the same old songs in the same old ways (yeah I know, heresy). So I was definitely really pleased that some of the old live chestnuts didn't come out to play and a couple oldies had new arrangements. It was almost TOO varied, in the sense that occasionally there was a bit too much of a mood lurch from comic to sensitive for my taste, but overall I thought song selection was good. There was some very funny improvised patter involving a "little squeaky crab", hung on the mic stand a few minutes before the show by a Feg who will remain nameless (unless he wants to claim credit in another post). Robyn seemed taken with it and when he left it left with him. If "Viva SeaTac" were to vanish off the face of the earth I personally would not miss it much. However, this obligatory version was a bit more enjoyable than usual, largely due to the participation of some Young Fresh REMs playing new and different percussion instruments. A beer bottle played with a flashlight was an on-the-spot invention, while the maraca-like thing made out of a potato was something Robyn already had sitting out on the table behind him. "Give It To The Soft Boys", also involving various Young Fresh REMs including Kurt Bloch, was fantastic and much fun. Robyn put the guitar down and just did vocals (complete with the, hmm, I don't know how to type this, but the "eeeeee ehhhhhh uhhhhhh" sound effects) and interpretive movements. There was a lovely, heartfelt "One Long Pair of Eyes" and "I Feel Beautiful" (cheekily dedicated to Arafat and Sharon). I enjoyed "Listening To The Higsons" but felt that it was missing a lot without the wok. Also, I'm not quite sure it works as an acoustic number. "Trilobyte" was a pleasant surprise. I don't know if it's true, but the story about it being inspired by a "ladies' shaving device from the 40s" found rusting and decaying on a beach was a great one. The Pros and Cons of Dylan covers: He did a very moving, striking "Not Dark Yet"; a serviceable-but-nothing-amazing "It's All Over Now Baby Blue", and a fairly limp "Pledging My Time". I really missed that kind of sly, knowing leer that gives Dylan's version its punch (come to think of it, "I've Got The Hots" could have used a dash more of something like that also). I think maybe in the early days he could have carried it off a bit better, but this version was just too laid back to be effective. I felt similarly about "Ballad of a Thin Man", altho the one lyrical update ("You've read all of T. Coraghessan Boyle's books") did make me smile. I wasn't particularly amazed by the two new songs or the instrumental (called something like "Feeling Is The Last Thing To Die"). Maybe I need to hear them in a different setting, but on first impression neither "Briggs" nor the other one (I don't even recall the title) were nearly as striking as any one of the songs that debuted on the SBs tour. Random Miscellaneous (Non-Music) Commentary: A Complaint About Annoying Audience Members: Hey, if you're going to spend the entire show chatting and keeping a running verbal commentary, could you stand somewhere other than the front row? I guess asking you to stop yelling out unfunny jokes is a lost cause, since you were obviously determined to do so despite the lack of response from both Robyn and the audience. Oh wait, that's not accurate. There was response in the form of groans and glares from the people around you. And Robyn did answer your irritatingly insistent prodding for "Gene Hackman" during the "Briggs" monologue, when you kept interrupting to shout "Was Gene Hackman in it?". He finally looked at you and answered "NO" in the kind of withering tone that would have instantly quieted or at least momentarily embarassed anyone but you wild and crazy guys. That was all quite bad enough, but on top of it you continued to waft smoke in his face even after Robyn gave you the evil eye. Other people were going to the back of the room or even outside to have a smoke as the amount of it swirling about the stage area was obviously bugging him. Pop quiz- when you're in the front row, and smoking, where do YOU think the smoke goes? Ahem, moving right along...... Fashion note: Purple shirt with bright flowers and dark purple velvet pants. Lizard shirt came out later. Pre-show our man was sporting the Trenchcoat Mafia look- black tshirt and pants with a lightweight dark coat. Eyebrow note: I'm not quite sure, but it didn't look to me as though they had finally bifurcated, I think they -might- just look less oppressively mono because they're silvery. Cone note: There were quite a lot of cones there (30). I have a feeling this may have been the result of sitting in a hotel room bored or perhaps a long bus ride with nothing to do, but of course it's also possible that Robyn has developed a renewed enthusiasm for cone creation. Randi note: HI RANDI! *waves* goodnight from yr. imbecile servant, lamphead . Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:33:45 -0700 From: The other Mr Feg Subject: Seattle? Sublime! Woj asks on the fegmania webpage: "Anybody there?" Well, funny you should ask, but yes a small but select feg globe did gather at "Mama's Mexican Kitchen" just down the block from the Crocodile Cafe. Cynthia was there, Jeme and Viv drove up from Portland, as did Susan and Ken. I flew up from San Francisco and Jim Davies legged it from Oxford (yes, he came from England just for the show!). Eddie joined us later at the venue. We have Fegfotos to prove this! If nobody has posted yet, it's only because they want to spare the feelings of anyone who missed this awesome show. Not only was Robyn on top form and played a perfect mix of new and old songs, plus a smattering of covers, but all the Viva-SeaTac mafia was on hand and after the first encore the stage was filled with various members of the Minus-Five and Young Fresh Fellows including Peter Buck, Scott McCaughey, Kurt Bloch, Tad, Jim etc., etc. crashing around, playing everybody else's guitars, and joining in with songs they didn't know. (for example, Peter Buck didn't know how to play "Give It To The Soft Boys"!) Percussion was performed on shaker-potato, beer-bottle-and-flashlight and indeed anything else to hand. It made getting to the hotel at two am in time to get up at four for a six o'clock flight so I could be in an eight o'clock meeting all worthwhile. (Did I mention I'm shattered?) In my present condition it's hard to remember my own name, let alone what was in the set, but I do recall that he played many of my personal favorites: Listening to the Higsons, Linctus House, Arms of Love, Raymond Chandler Evening, The President, The Yip Song, One Long Pair of Eyes and She Doesn't Exist (not necessarily in that order). The couple of Dylan covers he played were nice, too (I don't always like those) - oh and he played Inside You (the Psychedelic Furs song), too. Wonderful! Hopefully Eddie will have the complete set-list for you. On the non-musical front, I should mention that in my wanderings around Seattle during the day I picked up a small (6in) plastic crab which squeaked when you squeezed it. I thought this might be a good totem for our table in the restaurant. Somehow however this ersatz crustacean found itself hanging on Robyn's mic stand during the show. He noticed it immediately and seemed delighted with the sound. Several times during the set he had a conversation with it and on one occasion it apparently decided that the song he was about to play on was not appropriate, and after much squeaking from the crab, Robyn put aside the harmonica holder he'd just picked up and started a different song. Afterwards, Scott and the boys hung out in front of the stage (though not Robyn, of course) and Scott even posed for a Fegfoto with as all. If he'd just played Chinese Bones as well it would have been perfect. As it is I still have something to hope for for San Francisco tomorrow. This is one show I definitely want to get a recording of! More later... ~N PS My thumbs up, too, for Mike Viola. Nice pop-y Squeeze-ish songs with slightly twisted lyrics. To show what a low-budget tour this is, Mike broke a string half-way though the first song. He had to stop. Go off, get his guitar case, and change the string on stage - all this while keeping the audience entertained and without breaking a sweat. What a pro. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 09:16:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Jason Miller Subject: Reap: Linda Boreman Better known as Linda Lovelace, star of Deep Throat. http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/04/23/obit.lovelace.ap/index.html Jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 09:54:23 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #132 James: >don't you just love bibliophiles? Ask about a book and there's the ISBN :) I've worked in a library, my brother in a bookshop. After getting "I'm looking for a book, I can't remember who wrote it or what it's called, but it's about a train journey" you begin to wish people could be a bit more specific. Of course earlier editions may exist with a different ISBN so we have the publisher listed. Editions by different publisher would be back to Author/Editor and Title searches. Still the ISBN is a good place to start. Jill: >Yes, Europeans often wear (maybe always wear) their wedding bands/rings on >their right hands. Mine's on my left hand. I'm not aware of anyone who wears a wedding ring on their right hand, or at least all the rings I _know_ to be wedding rings are on the lh. Nat: >It not only talks about mythical >tricksters like Coyote, Hermes, and Raven, but also brings in John Cage, >Maxine Hong Kingston, and Frederick Douglass. Really fascinating stuff. >(I >wish it mentioned Bugs Bunny, though - everyone's favorite latter-day >trickster...) Loki, it must have Loki. I may well hunt this one down. Miles: >I'll throw some out to see what demime does to 'em: > >pi: 6 Take care when posting formulae to the list folks. Kay: >explored and connected alot of different stuff. But in some ways--is the >whole Enochian trip that different from what he did with chartmaking for >explorers/pirateers like Drake and Hawkins? Certainly his work astrology, numerology, alchemy &c are all comparable to his work on astronomy, cartography &c in terms of his approach and intellectual comittment. As for Enochian stuff, I don't have a conclusion other than that dangerous games were being played. It is just possible that cryptology/spying have a role cf. the episode of Trimethius' Steganographia. Also likely that it was driven by Dee's hunger for knowlege, in which case he putting a lot of trust in a single source of information which I find a little unsettling in a man who was so well read and who in is other work was able to communicate with peers. >My interests started in history and literature, then drifted into >philosophy, religion and psychology so occult was a natural progression. Im >only halfway decent on science where it meets another interest. I must confess to having a limited interest in older literature. I enjoy mythological writing such as Gilgamesh and the Kalevala and also the medieval Scandanavian sagas (the "historical" Icelandic sagas as well as the more inventive stuff from the mainland). I still haven't read Spenser, Chaucer, Marlowe and a whole host of other worthy material. Moulin Rouge in general: Found it fun for the first 20 minutes or so, up to and including the pitch (Spectacular Spectacular). Then it drags. brian np fegMANIA _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #133 ********************************