From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #119 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, April 15 2002 Volume 11 : Number 119 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: sharon's dirty testicles, in a jar by the door ["noe shalev" ] NY shape of mind ["Spring Cherry" ] Re: i'll come running to you, babe [Miles Goosens ] Re: sharon's dirty testicles, in a jar by the door [gSs ] Re: sharon's dirty testicles, in a jar by the door [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jef] Re: NY state of fine [Ken Weingold ] she watch channel zero ["ross taylor" ] Re: Me and TV: a love/hate relationship [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: sharon's dirty testicles, in a jar by the door ["noe shalev" ] Re: sharon's dirty testicles, in a jar by the door [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 22:26:15 +0200 From: "noe shalev" Subject: Re: sharon's dirty testicles, in a jar by the door > Also I find it utterly distasteful that Israeli politicians are > constantly saying things like "this is our own Twin Towers" - not to say > that the suicide bombings aren't utterly horrific and fighting extremism > with yet more extremism, but using the quote as a justification to occupy > the West Bank and let's face it, kill anyone who *looks* like a terrorist > ("he was of Middle-Eastern extraction!) is just sick. some of you read my posts in the issue here, so no need to tell. I'm a left wing extreamist, and oppuse the occupation and violations of the Zeneva treaty, yet under estimating the suicide attacks over our citys wouldn't make it less horiffy. I don't even dare to think what would have hap[paned if half of those attacks would have taken place in the US, I do dare to think, according to previous american reacitions, that no witnesses would stay to tell the details. the IDF who I'm proud to be a comanding officer in, although I refused several times serving in the territories and was jailed once for it, is not killing anybody who looks like a terrorist. we lost not one and not ten soldiers by the high standards and carefullness we take. this is simply not true. if it was so, we would have done it the american way. instead of risking soldiers lives by going house to house seeking for explosive labs we could anounce the time, and simply air bomb the place, anyone who wants can run away. wer'e not america, we didn't do it. not that I think Sharon wouldn't lilke to do it. luckily enough we don't have the "privilages" of the nighbourhood bully. this is how it is when your'e not an uncle and your name ain't Sam. I think occupation is bad. I think it makes us do thing that aren't good, and arne't legal or moral. but this is not a balck and white picture. The Palestinians failed in putting up front a stable, reliable leadership. a huge amount of the suffering of my brothers palestinians, derived from the corruption and dictatorship, goverened by chairman Arafat. The Paletinians choose a way of terror by which they kill on a twice a day bassis inocent citizens, this is somthing we don't do. no palestinian civilian was ever intentionaly killed. well I don't think we should be in the position of fighting anyway, as soon as we realized that Arafat is not willing to live in a peace with out we should have withdraw immedietly and fold back the settelments, but there's a long distance between this and the pure evil that been taken against us. >It's horrific though - at the risk of making a tasteless statement, it > seems ironic to me that Jewish people, having been through the horrors of > the holocaust are now simply handing out the same treatment to the > Palestinians (it seems to me that Sharon will not be happy until the > Palestinians are totally cowed/wiped out). and in the same spirit: mentioning the holocaust and the Israeli occupation in the same sentence, let alone comparing them, is not only an insalt to an inteoigent mind, it obviouslt a sign of complete ignorance of what the holocaust was and what the arab israeli conflict is all about. I think that even comparing the Israeli occupation to the deeds of America on Afganistan and Irak not to say Vietnam, takes alot of nerves and hipocracy, but to the Nazis? come on matt. you can do better than that. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 13:10:56 -0700 From: drew Subject: i'll come running to you, babe > From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey > > On Sun, 14 Apr 2002, drew wrote: > >>> 13.The New Age(VU) >> >> I can't even imagine how this would sound sung by Robyn. >> I've got to hear it. Yeow. > > Funny - I can almost hear him singing it in my head - it seems to fit > him > & his voice perfectly in many ways. The verse, yes -- the chorus, I'm not so sure. Don't get me wrong, though, I'll bet it's terrific. I'm just having trouble imagining it. >> We had one in college but we only watched Mystery Science >> Theater 3000 on it > > That's all you need, really. We thought so too. Mike Nelson has a new book out, by the way. > ::the popularity of the gruesome FACES OF DEATH video series is > ::apparently so great that a children's version is in production, > ::to be called FACES OF OWIES. Excellent! > From: Brian > After the show we went over across the street to the Double Door > and proceeded to drink. After stepping in some disgusting half digested > food, my friend pointed out that Billy Corgan was standing right > behind us. I turned around and sure enough, there was Billy with > 3 beautiful asian girls. Which of them had barfed? > All I could think was, 'now why can't that be Robyn Hithcock?' I dunno, I can't see Robyn and Billy making a very cute couple. > From: gSs > > I believe the destruction of isreal, as we know it today, is essential > for > world order. Just when you thought it was safe to read the feglist again. I hope that as we get angry at Sharon we remember that his people do not stand behind him as a united front any more than the people of the U.S. stand behind Bush. A friend of my girlfriend's is stationed in Tel Aviv, performing his required military duty. We wonder sometimes when we're suddenly going to stop hearing from him, but for now he talks constantly about wanting to leave, about how much he hates what's going on over there. So I don't like to think about the destruction of Israel. I prefer to hope, vainly and naively perhaps, for another change in leadership. > From: "Natalie Jane" > I simply ran out of energy in terms of maintaining an alleigance to a > show. I didn't feel like making the effort to watch "The X-Files" every > single Sunday (or tape it). Same with "The Simpsons." Yes -- yes, this is exactly how I feel about it. I found myself feeling strangely obligated either to spend my Sunday evening in front of the TV watching two or three hours of Fox or to tape it and then watch it sometime during the week, and I loathed and rebelled against that routine. The X-Files was not a pleasant way to end my weekend, or to prepare myself for bed. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 20:17:42 +0000 From: "Spring Cherry" Subject: NY shape of mind I own a TV and believe in watching it. I just don't much. I wonder if the current duality of the monbrow has anything to do with Robyn going grey--eyebrow hairs also lighten. Its like there was so much going on at both NY shows I can't begin to sort it all out into discreet impressions. Over-all, he was in very good voice. Alot of singers can only convey a few moods, Robyn really does have enormous range in terms of delivery(which I'll take over range in notes anyday). And I love it when he's electric and shakes the guitar and steps back to make it modulate. He always looks down very seriously, very intently and his lower lip juts out, like he was 11 years-old and preforming critical brain surgery on a hapless sea - urchin. The odd thing is, even on, or especially on the sad stuff, I realized I have this response to Robyn live. Its this feeling that starts in my stomach and then radiates upwards. Its this funny little golden glow that makes me feel good. Very tuned in. For awhile, reality makes sense. And then its back to the salt mines. Kay "There's a bird outside the window There's a word inside a book. There's blood everywhere And I don't know where to look." New verse(?from memory?) to Robyn Hitchcock's "Raymond Chandler Evening." _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:23:20 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: i'll come running to you, babe At 01:10 PM 4/15/2002 -0700, drew wrote: >The X-Files was not a >pleasant way to end my weekend, or to prepare myself for bed. Which is why, ratings be damned, it belonged on FRIDAY nights, where it and HOMICIDE made the best night of network viewing you could have during the '90s (albeit requiring a channel change at 10 PM eastern). The second season of MILLENNIUM more than held up the Fox end of the bargain for one more season, but by then HOMICIDE was on the wane... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:21:38 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: NY state of fine On Sun, Apr 14, 2002, Spring Cherry wrote: > Ken whose BLONDE!(love how you develope these inexplicable > assumptions bout people you've never seen. I was -sure- he had dark > hair) Yes, you weren't the first person to mention that about my hair. What made anyone think I had dark hair? :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:48:13 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: sharon's dirty testicles, in a jar by the door On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, noe shalev wrote: > And this comes from A US citizen? I consider myself an Earthling from Texas. i do not carry my citizenship as a banner and would go as far as even considering support for or assistance to an invading army if the long term stability that could come with the flag change was deemed of greater value than a patriotic victory. names, flags, stories change all the time and I think anyone who trys to base their right to exist in any context on ancient superstition in ANY regard is not worth supporting. the things isreal has done to the palistinians which can be directly and without question credited to the state of isreal has always been but should now especially he seen as an unjustified excuse to eliminate any chance of a Palestinian State. make excuses, switch the blaim, the focus, try to justify isreal's actions today by making sometimes opinionated general condemnations of u.s. foreign policy or whatever gives you that warm fuzzy feeling but the fact is that what isreal has done to the palestinians this morning, last night, this afternoon, since the introduction of isreal as a state is unnacceptable and should not be tolerated for one more moment by the us, the eu, asia, or the arabs to name a few. i predict the next tactical nuclear strike will be launched by Isreal against it's neighbors if the rest of the world doesn't do something now. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:03:35 -0400 From: "Timothy Reed" Subject: RE: NY state of fine Ken - Must have been that old porno you did when you were in college. You know, curtains don't match the carpets, or something to that effect. Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org]On > Behalf Of Ken Weingold > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:22 PM > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Re: NY state of fine > > Yes, you weren't the first person to mention that about my hair. What > made anyone think I had dark hair? :) > > -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:03:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: sharon's dirty testicles, in a jar by the door On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, noe shalev wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gSs" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:58 PM > Subject: re: sharon's dirty testicles, in a jar by the door > > > I have to get this off my chest. Sharon is big fat sorry ass motherfucker. > > isreal is doomed and if the US falls or even studder steps as a result of > > it's support of the state of isreal, we deserve it. Luckily of course > > everything is temporary as all orbits are in constant decay and I hope to > > witness the fall of isreal in my lifetime. I know this is an awfully > > bold statement which carries all sorts of baggage but now more than ever > > I believe the destruction of isreal, as we know it today, is essential for > > world order. > > > > gSs > > > > And this comes from A US citizen? > hellllloo?! Please do not confuse the actions of the US Government with the wishes or desires of its citizens. Granted, many in the US do agree with our government's unblinking (and blinkered) support of Israel no matter what - but many disagree. In my science fiction world, the solution would be: "Okay, Israel, here's your nation. Okay, Palestine, here's yours. What? It's the exact same land? Deal with it..." and put an impermeable dome over the whole thing. If they get along, they get along - if they don't, at least they don't take anyone else with. (That is not to equally assign blameworthiness: I'm not playing that game.) - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::"Shut up, you truculent lout, and let the cute little pixie sing!":: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:04:43 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: NY state of fine I was young and needed the money. - -Ken On Mon, Apr 15, 2002, Timothy Reed wrote: > Ken - Must have been that old porno you did when you were in college. You know, > curtains don't match the carpets, or something to that effect. > > Tim > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org]On > > Behalf Of Ken Weingold > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 4:22 PM > > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: NY state of fine > > > > Yes, you weren't the first person to mention that about my hair. What > > made anyone think I had dark hair? :) > > > > -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:06:35 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: she watch channel zero Hey, just because I don't have a TV doesn't mean I can't be a good neighbor! Sorry to drag out a dying thread, but since I talked about this shortly after joining the list I feel I have some stake in it. In a little over a year I will observe my "30 years of never had a tv" anniversary, i.e. since leaving home. For the most part I don't tell people. I haven't told my co-workers here, & that's no more an act of disrespect to them than telling the list is to you guys -- it just seemed easier early on and comfortable ever since. I guess I outed myself here because it seemed, well, different. Squids. Anyway, my closer friends (& anyone who's spent time in my house) know, but any announcement I make is much quieter than the reactions I get. (Smugly quiet, someone hisses). Oh, whatever. I probably watch about as much as people who have TVs but don't watch much. My behavior about this probably similar to the fact that I don't listen to much jazz. I admire what I have heard but mostly spend my time elsewhere. Anyone looking at my CV would see that I'm not any more productive than everyone else. I vote similarly to my TVish friends, have as much political involvement (of the same kind), in general behave the same as most hippyish people of my demographic who have TVs. I mean in America you don't have to own a TV to be up on TV as long as you're a little bit social. My main criticism is, as w/ cars, why does *everyone* have to have them? When something good is on, why not get together & make it an event? Then people can watch, as I do, embarrassing DVDs of Hullaballoo vols. 1-5 (Byrds w/ Crosby!) in the privacy of their computer. There's a lot of trash on TV, but also in literary quarterlies -- or daily newspapers or jeeze, the web, or the radio or ... But if we've got all these media, why should one be mandatory? So, for the record I: 1)don't have a TV 2)don't believe in god 3)don't care for sports 4)don't like the Sims 5)water? no thanks, fish fuck in it. - --- Thanks to Kay & others for some reportage on actually seeing fegs. Friday nite my daughter had a biggish flute performance. I was wondering if a NY show would occasion any Robyn talk about the WTC? Also, any reports of his patter? - --- I, for one, am glad to see the return of political discussion here. To quote Ray Charles "the world's in an uproar." Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 16:20:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Me and TV: a love/hate relationship On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Natalie Jane wrote: > As James sings, I used to own a TV, and I sold it in January of 2000, > because I didn't feel like hauling a huge bulky 19-inch set when I moved to > Portland. Also, I didn't want to pay for cable anymore. I can't say I've > never regretted it, but on the other hand, I miss it a lot less than I > thought I would. just keep telling yourself that... > I understand the Quail's points about television. But along with quality > programs, television spews an enormous, colossal amount of pure shit, most > of which I found myself watching when I had other things to do (like getting > exercise, reading books, writing, running errands, playing my guitar, etc.). > I also kept noticing the way I and other people planned their lives around > TV shows. "Oh, I can't talk to you right now, 'The Simpsons' is on." "Oh, > we have to get back from dinner in time for 'Buffy.'" What you're saying is that TV, for you, was too addictive ;) I know how this works, though: I'm at the point at which, no matter how many people recommend a new show to me, I won't watch it unless I stop watching some other show. There just isn't enough time - and I have way more things to do. (That said, I have my five or six shows a week that I tape and watch regularly....*sigh*) Actually, TV watching in our house is mainly mandated by our cat, who demands laps to sit in, free of nasty encumbrances like books, newspapers, or magazines. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::the popularity of the gruesome FACES OF DEATH video series is ::apparently so great that a children's version is in production, ::to be called FACES OF OWIES. last show watched: last night's _Simpsons_ rerun next show to be watched: tonight's new _Angel_ episode ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:22:14 +0200 From: "noe shalev" Subject: Re: sharon's dirty testicles, in a jar by the door - ----- Original Message ----- From: "gSs" To: Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 10:48 PM Subject: Re: sharon's dirty testicles, in a jar by the door > On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, noe shalev wrote: > > And this comes from A US citizen? > > I consider myself an Earthling from Texas. > > i do not carry my citizenship as a banner and would go as far as even > considering support for or assistance to an invading army if the long term > stability that could come with the flag change was deemed of greater value > than a patriotic victory. How convinient. but as long as it's not you but me, you think I should become a refugee again by shouting down my state. nice. well you might be thinking if he's granparents were refuges why not him, or will you be kind enough to gramt me a us citizenship or just a green card? why should I bear rsponsibility for anything Israel have done, and you don't have to do so for your country? couldn't be a double moral case wer'e dealing with. no way. > names, flags, stories change all the time and I > think anyone who trys to base their right to exist in any context on > ancient superstition in ANY regard is not worth supporting. is the palestinian claim to get the mount of temple icluded? because they claim the the ancient people who hold tha tplace before King Davivd founded the city were their aancestors? >the things > isreal has done to the palistinians which can be directly and without > question credited to the state of isreal has always been but should now > especially he seen as an unjustified excuse to eliminate any chance of a > Palestinian State. make excuses, switch the blaim, the focus, try to > justify isreal's actions today by making sometimes opinionated general > condemnations of u.s. I'm not justifying anything. my opinions are known throughout this list. still may I remind you that Israel and the Zionist movment were the ones to ecept the UN resulotion of dividing the country into two states. The Arabs rejected it and started to fight us, promising to "push us to the sea". this went on for long years. but it didn't started in 1947 and with the founding of the state of Israel. it goes back to the 1929 killing of hebron jews and to a houndred years of continous terrorism. >foreign policy or whatever gives you that warm fuzzy > feeling but the fact is that what isreal has done to the palestinians this > morning, last night, this afternoon, since the introduction of isreal as a > state is unnacceptable and should not be tolerated for one more moment by > the us, the eu, asia, or the arabs to name a few. i predict the next > tactical nuclear strike will be launched by Isreal against it's neighbors > if the rest of the world doesn't do something now. and y is it not to be tolrated while the US crimes should be? ohh forgot you have the money and the power. yeah I know. we still don't bomb cities, don't execute civilians and give basic rights to POW. but leave alone the US, how about the paletinians themselves. shouldn't they be condemed? or is it that they only kill jews so it's okay. jews are used to it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:25:14 -0400 From: Brian Subject: Odd lots Yeah, I can't even imagine RH and Billy Corgan doing music together let alone being a couple. They both are rather tall though... Let's please end this discussion here. _______________________________________________________ I've also heard this one: There's a bird outside a window There's a worm upon a hook There's blood all over everything And I don't know where to look _______________________________________________________ No sign of kidnappers as of yet, but I'm lovin' all the show reviews! Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 00:48:10 +0200 From: "noe shalev" Subject: Re: sharon's dirty testicles, in a jar by the door > Please do not confuse the actions of the US Government with the wishes or > desires of its citizens. Granted, many in the US do agree with our > government's unblinking (and blinkered) support of Israel no matter what - > but many disagree. I'm not, but I think I'm entitled to the same treatment. I'm not sopurter of sharon. way on the other side, but our friend here denyes my right to live peacfully in my state. > In my science fiction world, the solution would be: "Okay, Israel, here's > your nation. Okay, Palestine, here's yours. What? It's the exact same > land? Deal with it..." and put an impermeable dome over the whole thing. > If they get along, they get along - if they don't, at least they don't > take anyone else with. so lett me tell you a secret - it's a very small land (app. half the size of NYC) and one of the most croweded by ppl per square mile parameters, yet there's enough room for two states. the problem is not in finding solution, the problem is that extreamist on both sides getting their way in avoidinig peave and imposing this state of caus upon the region. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:22:23 -0700 (PDT) From: cmb adams Subject: Re: sharon's dirty testicles (end of thread?) as charming as I find this subject line and some of the sentiments expressed under its rubric, I wonder if perhaps it may be a little further off-topic than strictly necessary for a mailing list theoretically oriented around robyn hitchcock. I don't mean to minimize the importance of the topic. I fully believe that the topic is one of crucial importance to any sentient being walking the planet, as it contains within it the seeds which could end all of our lives in a flash when and if the argent missiles finally start to fly, fly, fly. for my part, I have a few personal ideas on the subject which I'm happy to discuss when the subject arises in a more fitting forum. my point is this: those of us who are interested in arab-israeli politics are already discussing it on mailing lists oriented around political or activist or religious subjects. or we're serving in the army of one side or another. or we're arguing about it with random strangers in the local pub or pool hall. or we're alienating our friends by taking a stance on the subject that doesn't fit their approved world-view. or we're doing any one of a dozen other things. those of us who aren't interested in arab-israeli politics will have plenty of time to get interested later, during those long nights huddled around the campfire after the nuclear winter begins. but whether we're interested now or not, this is not the place to discuss it. you don't go to a political rally to argue about which Soft Boy is sexiest. (not that there's any room for argument: it's definitely Seligman.) don't come here to argue about politics. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 14:30:00 -0700 (PDT) From: theodius Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #118 Just curious..what's going on with Eddie Tews website? http://feedthefish.org/robyn doesn't seem to be up anymore? Hope it will be back soon. theo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:11:45 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: sharon's dirty testicles, in a jar by the door on 4/15/02 1:48 PM, gSs at gshell@metronet.com wrote: > names, flags, stories change all the time and I > think anyone who trys to base their right to exist in any context on > ancient superstition in ANY regard is not worth supporting. Hear Hear! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:11:58 -0700 From: "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" Subject: RE: sharon's dirty testicles (end of thread?) > those of us who aren't interested in arab-israeli > politics will have plenty of time to get interested > later, during those long nights huddled around > the campfire after the nuclear winter begins. You also are perfectly capable of using the delete key/button. Give me a break after all the off topic crap that gets talked about here... sheesh! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 17:49:23 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: sharon's dirty testicles (end of thread?) cmb adams [adams@vader.boutell.com]: > but whether we're interested now or not, this is > not the place to discuss it. Forgive me if I'm a little dense, but who are you? The first post I can find under this address is from last Thursday. You're addressing well-developed community with a lot of shared history. Off-topic posts have been debated many times over the years, but you speak with an authority that suggests, well, that maybe you killed woj. Please tell me you didn't kill woj! +brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:54:22 -0700 From: "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" Subject: RE: sharon's dirty testicles (end of thread?) > your point that other "off-topic" issues > come up plenty of times is accurate. I'm > not especially interested in whether somebody- > or-other has a piercing or not, or whether > so-and-so likes televsion either. those > off-topic discussions, and others like them, > are inappropriate to the list also. if they > bother you, as your description of them as > "off topic crap" might seem to indicate, > I think you would be doing yourself (and > possibly the rest of the list) a service by > speaking up once in a while and saying "um... > stay on topic?" Hey I like the off topic crap! Just because I called it that doesn't mean I don't like I apologize for the giving the wrong impression. Hell, if this list had the same volume and was 100% RH all the time I'm sure I would have left ages ago. The quality of off topic crap is the spice that makes any mailing list worth while. And I think this list has great off topic crap! Personally I found the exchange between gss and noe very interesting. The sort of bombastic but understandable statements made by gss I can get anywhere but to have someone that is actually in Israel with a real stake in it respond was really exciting (god bless the internet blah blah blah). Plus this was a small skirmish in comparison with the ideological wars that took place here during the 2000 election. So I like off topic stuff and when it doesn't interest me as the on topic stuff doesn't sometimes. I just delete it and move on. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 02:37:36 +0200 From: "noe shalev" Subject: was sharon's - off - off topic - crap > and noe very interesting. The sort of bombastic but understandable > statements made by gss I can get anywhere but to have someone that is > actually in Israel with a real stake in it respond was really exciting > (god bless the internet blah blah blah). god bless internet (and al gore the inventor matbe?) but more importamt god bless Robyn. if it wasn't for that combination, well where were we now. and if wer'e in the bless and thank business I wish to bless my parents who brought me up to be able to write this shit. and I wish to thank the Nobel academy - oh damn, this is from another speech) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #119 ********************************