From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #117 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, April 14 2002 Volume 11 : Number 117 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: More Bottom Line. ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: 667 [steve ] Re: In Defense of Television, at least a little [gSs ] NYC Setlists. ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #116 ["Brian Hoare" ] Nightmare sitcom flashback [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] NY state of fine ["Spring Cherry" ] Re: NYC Setlists/NY state of fine ["madcowan" ] tv/npr [] Re: Robyn Sings ["madcowan" ] Re: Psyched [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: I've just been listening to... [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] "Elixers and Remedies" Premiere! [invader woj ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 12:37:32 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: More Bottom Line. >Thanks to Ken G. we all sat >together. W., SORRY BOUT THAT! Max _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 11:54:43 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: 667 On Saturday, April 13, 2002, at 03:55 AM, Ken Weingold wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2002, steve wrote: >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/24840.html > > Isn't 668 the Neighbor of the Beast? Maybe things are different in the UK? - - Steve __________ "Miyazaki's latest animation feature (co-winner with 'Bloody Sunday' of the Berlin Golden Bear) more than justifies his status as Japan's most revered culture hero. What starts out as a fine example of the through-the-looking- glass kids' adventure genre becomes almost Shakespearean in its lyricism, breadth of vision and humanity." - Tony Rayns, Sight & Sound ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 12:41:15 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: In Defense of Television, at least a little On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, The Great Quail wrote: > And of course -- what about The Simpsons? and Cotton Hill gSs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 11:33:47 -0700 From: drew Subject: please remove me from this discourse > From: The Great Quail > > I agree with Miles. Indeed, I have always wondered how someone can > *not* own a TV. And I mean this from a position of critical > intelligence, too, not just as a slave to the glass teat or a > PlayStation 2 addict. The trick is not to adopt some totalitarian > idea of "kill your television," or to repudiate it completely, but to > make judicious use of it. By which you mean what -- just watching a few good shows, or channel-surfing to dip into the bourgeois shared consciousness? The reason I don't watch TV very much is that nothing that's on is good enough to demand my attention. And while I do love the Simpsons, even that is not really must-see TV for me. Of course, I think part of it is that I strongly resist routine, which theoretically would make TiVO perfect for me, but I can't see spending even more money on something to create entertainment obligations for me (I'd have to watch it all eventually). The interesting thing about video games is that they've greatly reduced my tolerance for passive entertainment. I always want to participate in anything coming out of a CRT now. > Basically, I think that TV is a vital keystone to modern Western > culture, especially American culture, and to ignore it is to > willingly remove oneself from the mainspring of popular discourse. I try to willingly remove myself from popular discourse as often as possible. Think of that as disaffected and misanthropic rather than elitist and snobbish. So if I haven't made it clear, my objections to television are purely empirical rather than theoretical, so your passionate defense is nice but doesn't change the reality that there ain't nothin that really deserves my free time on the damn thing. Unfortunately I'll probably not be cancelling cable for two reasons. The first is that I would only end up saving about ten bucks because my internet bill would go up (the same company handles both). The second is that, like it or not, I'm going to _have_ to dip into popular discourse more often than I used to. I got picked to join the local ComedySportz team, and in group improv the audience is always yelling out suggestions from movies and TV shows that I'll need to be familiar with. > From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) > > balance a little closer to right, I want it stated here and now that I > love: Cathedral, Winter love, This could be the day, and Autumn is your > last chance. Why are they never talked about??? Got me. I love 'em too, with the latter being probably my favorite song on the album. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 17:07:53 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: NYC Setlists. He did a lot more talking during the first set...a whole lot more. If anybody knows the titles of the songs I don't please let me know what they are. Max Early Show 1.Mexican God 2.I Got The Hots 3.A Man Has Got To Know His Limitations Briggs 4.Not Dark Yet (Dylan) 5.Heart Full Of Leaves 6.Linctus House 7.Dark Princess 8.Victorian Squid 9.Autumn Is Your Last Chance 10.I Often Dream Of Trains 11.(I don't know the title of this one something about "Le Cherite") 12. Graveyard Standing(Improv) 13.The New Age(VU) 14.One Long Pair Of Eyes Late Show 1.Sleeping With Your Devil Mask 2.Balloon Man 3.It's All Over Now Baby Blue 4.(I don't know this one, something about "you remind me of you") 5.The Wind Cries Mary 6.The Yip Song 7.Dark Princess 8.All That Money Wants (P. Furs) 9.My Mind Is Connected To Your Dreams 10.The Leopard 11.Bass 12.Raining Twilight Coast 13.Your Feelings Are The Last Thing To Die 14.The Queen Of Eyes 15.Linctus House (back by popular demand!) 16.Visions Of Johanna 17.Raymond Chandler Evening _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 22:34:15 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #116 >From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." >Subject: Re: CD Repair Kits >I use and recommend Mapleshade's MikroSmooth CD polisher: > > >This thread at audioasylum.com will give you plenty of info about >toothpaste, >car wax, and CD-polishing devices: Gene: I'll try to track some down. I wasn't certain wether these things worked or not. >...I often Dream of trains, for the first time in too long. > >How come y'all forgot to remind me how great this album is? And, in among the well-known joys of the title track, Trams of Old London, My >Favourite Buildings, Flavour of Night and the oh-for-a-Roger-McGuinn- >version Sleeping Knights of Jesus, are those songs that NO-ONE EVER >MENTIONS. To put the balance a little closer to right, I want it >stated >here and now that I love: Cathedral, Winter love, This could be the day, >and Autumn is your last chance. Why are they never talked >about??? James: This album is too good to need to remind people of its greatness:) My faves being Cathedral, Flavour of Night and This Could Be the Day. Maybe too personal to talk about. My children's mother is a journalist:) This album stands outside of Robyn's work as a triumph. Brian : More than little tipsy after the soiree after the Corsham Sinfonia's debut. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 10:41:50 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Nightmare sitcom flashback Just been re-listening to "Mellow together" and had a horrific thought. Fegs have been saying for a while that it remind them of Neil off "The Young Ones". But I've just placed the voice, and it's from a far earlier, and worse, sitcom. The voice to me sounds like Inspector Blake (Stephen Lewis?) off "On the Buses"! Any ageing Britfegs care to confirm the similarity? James ("I'll get you, Butler!") James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 00:57:28 +0000 From: "Spring Cherry" Subject: NY state of fine Just got home to Philly after being very lost in Brooklyn(not my borough) after doing family time at the Brooklyn Museum today. Have not had enough sleep, for some inexplicable reason my head hurts and I got in trouble with the guards at the Museum cause I kept stubornally trying to crawl in the 17th-century hearth where I -know- they've hidden the time machine. However, I accomplished nothing but getting myself sooty, snotty and ill-treated. So I am now only capable of dashing off a few incoherent, ill-tempered and temporary notes about last night's concerts and feg fest. First of all --Fegs are the nicest people(hmmm--now who first said that:-?) Well---I've yet to mean a bad hat among them. It was a joy to finially meet Jill the wonderfully-sane, her two fun, interesting high-geek friends(youve - -got- to get them to join this LS, Jill--they're perfect ); Ken whose BLONDE!(love how you develope these inexplicable assumptions bout people you've never seen. I was -sure- he had dark hair); Quail, whom I greeted with "bet you know who I am", and he did!(I knew who he was;-); LJ who is just so knowing with her laid-back southern-tinged irony; Bebe and Mary who I didn't get to talk to enough; Ferris who has a very nice earing, or was that microphone;-?; John Fetter who also hated student-teaching; Woz who was able to eat only -1- chip to the delight and amazement of the crowd; the Great Bayard, who did -not- record; Chris whom I embarressed by telling him how much I liked his history posts but I hope he forgives me cause I really do like those history posts and there just isn't enough good feedback in this world, is there?; Melissa, whose lovely, but you can sorta tell that from her posts, can't you?; John Partrige who looks like somebody I went to college with and a whole lot of other people I only got to nod pleasently to and wish there'd been more time to hang with ... and last of all the two greatest Fegs of all, Max and Kathie, who gave me a long, out-of-their way lift uptown for which I am profoundly grateful. There was also a " very tall, eccentic Englishman" who stood in front of us(for some unexplained reason), playing "guitar"(including what looks like a new tawny electric one with great sound) and "singing." His shirts even included a solid color one without a collar, thou my favorite was the purple/blue one with hibisci. He had a very good hair night. His trousers were either moleskin, velvet, uncut corderoy or they had that funny slightly blotchy look that sometimes happens when bleach gets in the wash with your dark jeans. He wore what looks to be a wedding band on his right hand and he appeared to be left-handed. His monobrow was indubebly dual. Loads of other stuff to say but as they involve things like happineness, feelings, and depth,--I'll wait till my head stops hurting first. Kay "There's a bird outside the window There's a word within a book. There's so much blood everywhere That I don't know where to look." New verse, probobly incorrectly transcribed, Robyn Hitchcock "Raymond Chandler Evening." _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 21:24:37 -0400 From: "madcowan" Subject: Re: NYC Setlists/NY state of fine Yikes! "The Leopard" AND "Raymond Chandler Evening." Nice choices. It's funny but a long time ago Joe Jackson wrote a letter to Billboard magazine where he said the problem with music videos was that it gave you a specific image to think of when you heard a song instead of thinking about the things that were happening in your life or how the song reminded you of someone, etc. And whenever I hear "Raymond Chandler Evening" I always see that disembodied hat. It is a cool image though. How did "Your Mind Is Connected" come off solo? I am sad that I will have to miss this tour but I've done my share of traveling to Robyn gigs and April is not a very good time for a horticulturist to make a road trip. Now if someone were to actually kidnap me...(OK Chicago sounds good 8-) ) >fortified by a bit of fairly good tequila Can't you just see PeeWee Herman on the bar now, doing his little dance? Cheers, Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:28:27 -0000 From: Subject: tv/npr <> <> I went without a TV for about a year and a half -- when I moved into my first apartment for grad school. It was kind of a relief (I was living with somebody who kept the friggin' thing on all the time) at first, but I would indeed miss it, and of course, I eventually got one again. Whenever I find myself uttering the phrase "I heard this on 'All Things Considered,'" I'm filled with self-loathing, but there's nothing else on driving-home time radio in Houston to really listen to..."Morning Edition" is alright. For those of y'all who live in a town with a Pacifica station (or carries their programming), how horrifying was it to hear that NPR-wannabe Pacifica News Network program in place of Democracy Now!? marshall np DJ Shadow, _Endtroducing..._ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 22:20:04 -0400 From: "madcowan" Subject: Re: Robyn Sings When I listen to "Tell Me Mama" on the dots disc I can really hear the influence of Richard Thompson (circa the first couple of Fairport albums) on Robyn's guitar. He has had good teachers, hasn't he? Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:10:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Psyched On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, dmw wrote: > On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Brian wrote: > > > Now I just need to convince my girlfriend Venus to get her tongue > > pierced, which isn't too likely to happen. Rats! > > a name like "Venus" and she won't get pierced? you must be doin' sumpin' > wrong. She's worried it'll interfere with her tennis - plus Serena's such a copycat. - --Jeff Jeffrey Norman, Posemodernist University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Dept. of Mumblish & Competitive Obliterature http://www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:14:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: I've just been listening to... On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, James Dignan wrote: > ...I often Dream of trains, for the first time in too long. > > How come y'all forgot to remind me how great this album is? And, in among > the well-known joys of the title track, Trams of Old London, My Favourite > Buildings, Flavour of Night and the oh-for-a-Roger-McGuinn-version Sleeping > Knights of Jesus, are those songs that NO-ONE EVER MENTIONS. To put the > balance a little closer to right, I want it stated here and now that I > love: Cathedral, Winter love, This could be the day, and Autumn is your > last chance. Why are they never talked about??? Dunno - because I'm with you that it's a brilliant album, and probably the most emotionally intense RH's been invovled with (at least for me). - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::crumple zones:::::harmful or fatal if swallowed:::::small-craft warning:: ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 01:21:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: 667 On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2002, steve wrote: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/24840.html > > Isn't 668 the Neighbor of the Beast? I used to live at 664 - and dammit, I'm tired of being ignored every time the whole "Neighbor of the Beast" thing comes up. And actually, the whole "Beast" thing is a media blowup - he's actually quite normal, very kind, let me borrow his lawnmower, etc. Plus, the advantage is that very few goats were left wandering about after he moved in. - --Jeff Jeffrey Norman, Posemodernist University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Dept. of Mumblish & Competitive Obliterature http://www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 13:03:56 -0400 From: invader woj Subject: "Elixers and Remedies" Premiere! good news! the robyn & grant film is finally getting out there -- and in worcester, massachusetts or all places! no word on a vhs/dvd release yet...and i've heard that scotopia is working on a seattle-area showing as well. woj >Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 12:27:18 -0700 (PDT) >From: mark paolini >Subject: Re: "Elixers and Remedies" in Worcester? >To: badly drawn woj > > The Bijou Cinema, in Worcester, MA, will be >debuting the new Robyn Hitchcock/Grant Lee Phillips >concert film, "Elixers and Remedies", the weekend of >May 10-11-12. Show times will be announced the week >before the showing. The Bijou seves beer and wine, as >well as having a full restaurant. We are also having a >contest - we are asking people to send in food recipes >regarding Robyn/Grant song titles. We will make and >serve the best. Midnight Fish with Egyptian Cream, >anyone? To enter the contest, go to >cheesealarm@yahoo.com. For Bijou directions or more >info, call 508-757-0900 or go to www.bijoucinema.net. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #117 ********************************