From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #108 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, April 5 2002 Volume 11 : Number 108 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Odd link ["Rob" ] Speaking of... [steve ] whole buncha replies ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Buffy Tunes [Miles Goosens ] Re: Odd link ["JH3" ] Re: smtp fuck Fest [Ken Weingold ] RE: Got HD space? (hot phallus content: 0%) ["Maximilian Lang" ] just drawn that way [Ken Ostrander ] Re: ooh, give us money [Christopher Gross ] We've got...nothin' better to do... [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: ooh, give us money [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] YLT / Knitting Bee / Greenberger [Brandon ] Re: narcissus (depends) [Mike Swedene ] Re: Man stalking and skill fucking...just another day on fegmaniax [gSs <] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 23:10:44 +0100 From: "Rob" Subject: Odd link Just browsing the BBC radio 6 website, found a link to www.robynhitchcock.com. I can only assume it's there because the band featured next to it are from the Isle of Wight. Seems a bit bizarre as there's no other mention of Robyn on the page as far as I can see. http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/bbcsessions/ - -- Rob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 16:23:24 -0600 From: steve Subject: Speaking of... Bootleg The Two Towers trailer - http://www.movie-list.com/l/lordoftheringstrilogy.shtml - - Steve __________ "Miyazaki's latest animation feature (co-winner with 'Bloody Sunday' of the Berlin Golden Bear) more than justifies his status as Japan's most revered culture hero. What starts out as a fine example of the through-the-looking- glass kids' adventure genre becomes almost Shakespearean in its lyricism, breadth of vision and humanity." - Tony Rayns, Sight & Sound ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 14:24:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: whole buncha replies > From: The Great Quail > > Man, I fucking LOVE Brad Dourif!!!! Ever since "Dune." He RULES! Yikes. Don't tell me you've never seen his performance as Hazel Motes in Jhon Huston's film of Flannery O'Connor's "Wise Blood." Tragic. Email me offlist and I'll send you a copy of the movie on VHS. And check out www.dourif.com for some good info about him. > From: "Poole, R. Edward" > > Hey, wait a minute. I take umbrage at these comments I apologize Edward. Really. I merely meant to put up my "Hey, I'm ready to help with Soft Boys videotapes" flag (James, how about a design for that flag?). > And one other thing -- don't talk mean about my precioussssssss. Uh-oh. Won't cross *that line* again. > From: "Kenneth Johnson" > > I thought Tim Roth was playing him??? Check this out: Man, does he look creepy. And thanks to all of you who provided Grima info so quickly. Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 16:33:32 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Buffy Tunes At 04:58 PM 4/5/2002 -0500, Christopher Gross wrote: >Miles, great comments on the current season of Buffy. I couldn't have >said it any better myself! (And I didn't.) However, I can understand >those who argue that Buffy has gotten too dark. They're sensing a real >problem but missing the cause. Dark, depressing stories are fully within >the Buffy tradition. They've always been there, but leavened with happy >moments and humor. The problem is that lately there has been less of that >leavening, and humorous part has often been less funny. Look at the >wedding episode, "Hell's Bells": lots of jokes, but too many of them were >heavy handed or just silly (and the "circus freak" thing was repeated too >much). Meanwhile, the central story, Xander backing out of the wedding, >was handled pretty well IMO. Sure it was sad, but that was NOT the >problem with this episode! The above is a good example of the sloppy >writing that I've seen in recent episodes, and it, rather than the dark >tone, is what we really should worry about. Thanks for the compliment, and I'll buy the rest of this. It hasn't been as sharp overall over the last few episodes. But as you say, Xander backing out of the wedding was done really well, with lots of subtle things in the "future" Xander saw, done up in BUFFY's characteristic high-continuity style (especially his still-present jones for Buffy!). In fact, I'll pin my hopes on how a lot of the little things are still very right with the show, from Spike's penchant for decorating his crypts to the way Willow gravitated back to hanging around Xander all the time (never commented upon!) after breaking up with Tara. Plus we're dealing with a very small sample size here -- what, ten episodes at most since the musical, and all of us except Ed and Quail seem to have ones among them that we're willing to defend. It probably seems like an even longer slump than it is since these ten shows have been stretched over the November-January and March dead spots in network programming (example: no new episode aired between late November and early January); if we were seeing them all boom-boom-boom style in repeats on F/X, we'd've been through them in a week. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 16:36:04 -0600 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Odd link > Just browsing the BBC radio 6 website, found a link to > www.robynhitchcock.com. I can only assume it's there because the > band featured next to it are from the Isle of Wight. Seems a bit > bizarre as there's no other mention of Robyn on the page as far as I > can see. "The Bees"? There's a guy named Jude Hayden who used to be active on this list (and may indeed still be lurking) who's in a duo by that name, only they're based in Ohio. Maybe he can sue... Or else sell the rights? Looks like various people are squatting on the domain name(s), too. As you'd expect. Thanks, btw, to all of you who suggested "Brenda" tunes. Apparently there's one by the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion that I still have to check out. Tupac "2-pac" Shakur did one too, though unfortunately he wasn't referring to the Queen. (Or was he...?) John "it's the intellectual proper-tease" Hedges > http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/bbcsessions/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 17:38:42 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: smtp fuck Fest On Fri, Apr 5, 2002, gSs wrote: > same as before. Where's the party? - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 18:17:31 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: RE: Got HD space? (hot phallus content: 0%) >From: "Poole, R. Edward" > >Jinxies, your right! > >I think the accepted spelling is "Jinkies." Damn, I forgot to use my spell check. Max _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 15:25:38 -0800 From: drew Subject: ooh, give us money > From: "Spring Cherry" > Subject: The Reign of Skeleten Key I got excited when I saw this subject line, but I'm guessing this is not about the Andi Watson comic. > Realized that-- shameful confession--I like Robyns's voice better than > Dylans's. Surely this is not so surprising? I mean, Dylan's voice is expressive and all, but so is Robyn's -- you don't have to have a horrible singing voice to be expressive. > I fear I now know where Robyn falls in terms of the great Brian Wilson > debate. Could you offer a spoiler? I probably won't be buying the set until the show later this month. > From: Michael R Godwin > Subject: Buck is innocent! > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1912000/1912288.stm I like Stipe's description of him as a "Southern gentleman." Damning with apparent praise. I also like "non-insane automatism," which reminds me of the time this kid punched me in junior high and then claimed he'd been possessed by the devil at the time. Gee, who could argue with that? > From: Miles Goosens [stuff about Buffy] I'm sure none of you care about the reasons none of the handful of episodes of this show I tried to watch appealed to me, so I will just state for the record that this is another one of those shows that lots of smart, tasteful people adore but that I Don't Get. Other examples include the Ozzzzzbournes, (Yet Another Annoying Potato-Shaped Middle-Aged White) Family Guy, and Babylon 5. It's too bad, because of all of them Buffy has the most elements that should appeal to me, but I just can't warm to it. It just seems like a big soap opera about goblins. Then again, in most of my favorite television shows, the nature of the fictional reality is extremely loose (Monty Python, the Prisoner, MST3K, the Young Ones). Maybe I'm just bored with television that's too focused on creating a plausible and ultimately conservative, familiar reality, vamp-staking aside. My fiction-writing professors really liked my work but they were wont to scold me when I used genre conventions for window dressing. If something happens that's science-fictional or fantastical, it should be pivotal to the story such that the story could not be written without it. In the episode of Buffy that I saw the other day (a friend was over who's a fan of the show, and even _he_ had to leave midway through the episode, so I gather it was a poor example), Willow is taken to see some clearly disreputable black-magic enabler fellow who, I guess, gives her multiple orgasms (figuratively speaking) whilst using her magic to summon some sort of hairy troll-thingy. This leads Willow to wreck the car she was driving and get Buffy's little sister, who tries hard but is a dismal actor even in comparison to the rest of the cast, into a pretty dangerous pinch. At no point in the episode did anything happen that could not have happened without the substitution of drugs or alcohol for magic and a rapist/mugger for the troll-thingy. As a result, I watched an after-school special with latex makeup (and, I'll admit, some cool effects on Alyson Hannigan's pretty eyes). So I guess I went into it after all. Sorry. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 19:00:14 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: just drawn that way http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020329_eff_drm_alert.html now, more than ever, educational and community stations need legislative relief from the fees, reporting requirements, and content restrictions that threaten their very existence. please consider sending your own letter to the chairman of the judiciary committee. it only need be a few sentences. i doubt that they read much more. >Anyhoo, I'm going to be diving back into that well shortly, upon receipt of >Ken's video (it hasn't gotten here yet, BTW -- should I be worried?) and, >once it is done (it will take some time), I will offer up the new 2-gig >video spectacular to the list. fuck. let me know as soon as you get it. now i'm worried. >>>>What, do you think that YOU could keep down solid food if you were >>>>starring in the live action Scooby Doo movie? >>>>Yeah, I thought not. >> >>Jinxies, your right! > >Zoinks! What about one of those foot-tall sandwiches? it was only shag and scoob that had the munchies and were paranoid. that's probably why daphne was so elegaunt. now that i think of it, shaggy was pretty skinny too. i guess scooby was too fast for him. >Alyson Hannigan is way hotter than Sarah Michelle Gellar, I don't care >what anyone says. And the lesbian subplot keeps me hoping beyond hope >that one day, we'll see Willow in a hot girl-on-girl love scene. well, if anne rice was writing for the show...there must be some porno version of buffy out there somewhere. muffy the vampire player? >Moulin is phonetic in french. Say "moo", then say "ehhh" in the >fashion of Bugs Bunny. You must think the final "N" without >actually saying it. Moo-lanh is neither english nor french. of course, bugs is famous for mis-pronouncing everything from "dio-bowl-akle saabo-taggy" to, my personal favorite, "stragedy". > The people who made THE X-FILES special back in its heyday are all > named Morgan and Wong. is anyone even paying attention to these "final original episodes"? i haven't been able to watch a single episode lately. it doesn't help that six feet under shows at the same time. >I've completely forgotten who Grima Wormtongue is, or what he does. The >character is on my mind because I just discovered that one of my favorite >character actors, Brad Dourif, is playing him in The Two Towers. i've loved brad since i saw cuckoo's nest. i have to say that i haven't seen most of the feature films that are listed on the imdb. blue velvet, murder in the first, alien ressurrection. can't say that i'm gonna even try, judging from the titles. any recommendations? wormtongue is also the one who drops that crystal ball from the tower after the trees defeat saurman. i'm only about halfway through the two towers. maybe it was my connection; but watching that bootleg trailer it seemed like i was wearing the ring. > And by the way, as a "former" chemist, I feel indebted to warn you > all against this totally ludicrous anti- dihydrogen monoxide > propaganda. so...i can tell my roomate to throw out the dr bronner's and bathe with this stuff? it sounds like i probably do already. >that is indeed my meaning. I know that you and Tom and other >radicals on the list will go for just --any-- left wing story that rains >down on capatalism's parade. can i get an amen? yes, i want to believe; but i am appreciative of any perspective that fellow fegs can provide on stories from either wing of the dirty bird of hyperbole. ken "we can bomb the world to pieces; but we can't bomb it into peace" the kenster np done by the forces of nature jungle brothers ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 18:57:10 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: ooh, give us money On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, drew wrote: > In the episode of Buffy > that I saw the other day (a friend was over who's a fan of the > show, and even _he_ had to leave midway through the episode, > so I gather it was a poor example), Willow is taken to see some > clearly disreputable black-magic enabler fellow who, I guess, Ah, "Wrecked." This is generally acknowledged to be the worst episode of the current season, and it's tied for my least favorite of the entire 117 episodes made so far. Not that I expect you to be converted by this factoid; I just wanted it out there. (For the curious, my other least favorite episode is "Beer Bad" from season 4.) > Willow to wreck the car she was driving and get Buffy's little > sister, who tries hard but is a dismal actor even in comparison > to the rest of the cast, Oooh! I have to disagree with you there. I think Michelle Trachtenberg ("Dawn") is a very capable actor, especially for her age. Her character hasn't always been *written* well this season, but IMHO she's always *played* her well. She has that clever-but-infuriating, mature-one-minute-bratty-the-next teenager thing down to perfection. She was the focus of an episode called "All the Way" that I think was one of the best this season. And don't even start me on defending the rest of the cast! IMHO the regulars range from decent to excellent. Alas, the best of the bunch, Anthony Stewart Head, has left the show to return to England. Any of you Fegs been watching "Manchild"? - --Chris (who is NOT an obsessive, geeky fanboy) ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 18:13:55 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: We've got...nothin' better to do... On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Miles Goosens wrote: > I agree with Chris -- and am still mildly surprised to see my frequent > all-things-BUFFY off-list correspondent Jeffrey Norman render a > doom-mongering judgment, even with the "each episode contains ten great > minutes" caveat. > > Though Chris and I might differ over which recent eps were better than > others, I concur the season so far has been only mildly disappointing, and > disappointing only in comparison to its own high standards -- IMO it's > still the best show on television by far. I'm pretty much with you there - for a while, I actually thought _Angel_ was bettering it, but that was only for a while. What can I say: I can rationalize the reasons for my reactions to _Buffy_ now, but I still just don't enjoy it quite as much. That said, I actually admire Mutant Enemy's courage: I know they do pay attention to what fans say, and to persist with the doom 'n' gloom in the face of it, even though it wouldnt' surprise me if ratings have dipped somewhat (beyond the probable reduction because UPN reaches fewer homes than WB), says something for the integrity of Whedon et al.'s vision. > Imagine my surprise to find out that my winners of my "most beautiful BUFFY > babe" pageant were, season by season: > > Season one: Buffy > Season two: Buffy So we're not counting Jenny Calendar (sp?)? > against tan blondes. Of course, those last two wins come with Charisma > Carpenter out of the picture, and geez, she's playing in a whole 'nother > league. I haven't seen a woman that wildly beautiful since Sherilyn Fenn. yep...she definitely makes Bob Dole's dog bark. (apologies to non-Americans...) > The key difference, I think, was that seasons 1-3 were full of *high > school* anxieties and *adolescent* fears. As I said in a couple of > off-list BUFFY conversations last year (and both quotes and double-quotes > are me talking): > > >>Seems to me that they simply moved the characters away from the > well-defined > >>tropes of adolescence and misfit angst (tropes they plied quite well, of > >>course), into the more murky waters of young adulthood, with its own less > >>rigidly constructed but no less daunting challenges (living on your own, > >>whether you can/should/will/will be able to go to college and coping with > >>that decision, old friendships fading and/or transforming while you try to > >>get a handle on all the new people you meet, figuring out who the hell you > >>are without the insulating layer of Mommy and Daddy, the stresses of > meeting > >>all this new responsibility -- or the stresses of not meeting it). > >> > >>IMO BUFFY has done this just as superbly, but things in adulthood don't > >>resolve as easily, the challenges are bigger but harder to define (along > >>with what "success" might be under these new terms), and the process is > >ongoing rather than a series of coping maneuvers to get you past designated > >>milestones (first kiss, first sexual experience, tests, proms, > graduation -- > >>not necessarily in that order of course). I think BUFFY has dealt with > this > >>as well as any TV show ever has, and any fanbase dissatisfaction might be a > >>result of the shifting context rather than a dropoff in quality. I think that if not for one or two strongly disappointing eps, I'd agree fully with this. But the combination of those with some of the lapses pointed out by (I think) C. Gross probably contribute to whatever degree of negativity I have. (The two disappointments? The initial Doublemeat episode - and why she sticks w/that job I'll never know... - and the much-not-anticipated Return of Riley.) As for the real-world thing: yes...I just wish they'd shown a bit more imagination there. I mean, okay, Buffy needs a job...and yeah, fast food offers a fertile field of yuks (and yucks) - but there are so many other jobs she'd be better qualified for: say, martial arts instructor, for one. Personally I think it'd be amusing to play around w/SMG's real-life cosmetics ads - Buffy could show up at a modeling gig... Maybe not. Oh, and another minority opinion: I like the Legion of Dim (a/k/a those three nerdy guys) - although again, I sort of fault the show for taking seemingly forever to follow up on the consequences of their actually having killed a person. Partially, that forever is a result of the damnable insertion of reruns and other shows into the middle of the season, but still... > No question that TWIN PEAKS went into a slump at the beginning of season > two, though midway through when Lynch/Frost took more firm hold of the > reins, it returned to prime form. Agreed. For me, it was the endless, boring James/Mystery Woman (forgot her name) plot that I didn't like. But I loved the whole Windom Earle plot, which everyone else seems to forget in their rush to damn everything after the first few episodes. > But as for Chris Carter's involvement with THE X-FILES being crucial to its > quality? IMO, he's become more of a detriment than anything, especially > because the endless meaningless dumb-ass "mythology" storylines are mostly > his, and it's usually his name that appears on the writing credits of the > episodes that perpetuate this crime against his own show. The people who > made THE X-FILES special back in its heyday are all named Morgan and Wong. Especially Darin Morgan. And fans know it: when FX had a vote on its website for which eps to run during its _X-Files_ marathon, I think something like 1/3 to 1/2 of the episodes were D. Morgan-penned. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::I feel that all movies should have things that happen in them:: __TV's Frank__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 16:39:46 -0800 (PST) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: Elvis Costello tix sold out in Portland Yep, they went on sale at 9am last Friday. I wasn't able to call at work (I actually had to WORK, imagine! Hmmph!) until 11am, and that's when I found out tickets sold out in 2 hours. Yep, oh well like Gnat sez. Any lucky Portlanders going? About Peter Buck: I guess it helps to have Bono as a character witness on your side! Anyone know how much of a fine he would've had to pay had he lost? How does one prove or disprove that Peter Buck threw yogurt on passengers? I mean, that's a pretty graphic detail. Maybe it was some other guy who just *looked* like Mr. Buck. Hee-hee. I bet he's having a big party to celebrate. No airplanes involved. Carole ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 16:57:44 -0800 From: "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" Subject: RE: Elvis Costello tix sold out in Portland For what it's worth tickets for Elvis's May 19th Show at the Paramount in Seattle go on sale next Saturday 4/13 at 11AM via ticketmaster price range is 40 to 50 bucks. Jason Brown, watching the signs take over from the fading day... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 19:07:40 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Uh...fluffy comments and stuff On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, gSs wrote: > the "classic symptoms" of dhmo poisoning? Maybe they all use them power > crystals to keep their thingies in alignment. I believe their thingies are kept in alignment by a device known as an "athletic supporter." Thus endeth the adolescent yoks portion of today's netcast. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Never drive a car when you're dead:: __Tom Waits__ np: Death Cab for Cutie _The Photo Album_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 19:15:01 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: M&W On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Miles Goosens wrote: > God yes. Season Two of MILLENNIUM -- the one James Wong and Glen Morgan > produced, with Glen's brother Daryl writing several of the episodes -- is > one of the best seasons of TV I've ever seen. I hope it'll be on DVD > someday; I didn't have the foresight to start taping it. After a brief period of non-alignment, it appears Miles' and my tastes are once again converging. Talk about *dark*, by the way... - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::No man is an island. ::But if you take a bunch of dead guys and tie 'em together, ::they make a pretty good raft. __Max Cannon__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 19:37:21 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: ooh, give us money On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Christopher Gross wrote: > Ah, "Wrecked." This is generally acknowledged to be the worst episode of > the current season, and it's tied for my least favorite of the entire 117 > episodes made so far. Not that I expect you to be converted by this > factoid; I just wanted it out there. well, maybe: certainly, it was heavy-handed. But I don't think it was either unprepared for or in some senses not a necessary part of the show's development. (Uh...sorry 'bout the negatives: it was prepared for; it was necessary.) Certainly, it fits Willow's personality. Way back in (I think) season 2, recall the way she went to town on the brief lick of power she had when she had to substitute for Jenny Callendar's computer class - and as a shy, insecure, awkward, brainy young woman, she had very few other areas of control in her life: her smarts, and (now) her magic. And the show prepared us for it. I just wish that (a) the "magic dealer" wasn't so obviously E-vil, (b) the sexuality of the situation wasn't so overdone, and (c) they'd figured out a better way to dramatize the situation than wrecking a car for chrissakes. (Chris agrees, and would still like to know what happened to his sakes anyway.) Oh yeah: when did Amy turn into such an evil, manipulative character? I guess all that time as a rat made her...ratty. (Uh-and, in the episode where she and Willow are off magicating together - was it this one? - that, too, was pretty lame - sorry, but sparklies in the air are cheesier than they should have been, and boys dancing in cages in their undies? Puh-lease...) I'd have to view the ep again - but I think there were other elements in that episode that worked better. Other things about this season I've liked: the whole Spike/Buffy thing - esp. the at-first-hilarious but later-troubling fact that they seemingly couldn't get together *anywhere* for more than five seconds w/o becoming ravenous crotch-monkeys w/one another... And I liked the way they handled the (what so far seems to be a) break-up: SMG nailed that scene. She's good at that: the scene a couple seasons back, with Willow, where she's mourning the loss of Angel, is just killer, emotionally. Now this "Robyn" character: Is he, like, a new watcher or something? - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::the popularity of the gruesome FACES OF DEATH video series is ::apparently so great that a children's version is in production, ::to be called FACES OF OWIES. np: Death Cab for Cutie _The Photo Album_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 21:30:38 -0500 From: Brandon Subject: YLT / Knitting Bee / Greenberger Ry sez: >We would appreciate it if you could send us a copy of whatever >you record either to myself or to David Greenberger: *The* David Greenberger of The Duplex Planet? I saw him at a Yo La Tengo concert, too... this December in Hoboken. Knitting Bee song: http://www.cubby.net/creatures/kathy/ I'll check those Yo La Tengo recordings and figure out what songs Robyn plays on. Got 'em recently in a trade with 20 other discs, so it's been hard to keep track of it all. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 20:52:17 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Re: narcissus (depends) Depends which version of the story you read... as per Ovid he saw his own reflection in the pool... but as per the "oral" tradition Narcissus was a twin and his sister died and when he saw his reflection in the pool of water he thought it was his sister. that is my 2 cents.... Herbie NW ->Austin city Limits WILCO - --- Brian wrote: > Narcissus was a *lone* boy. Sorry. > > Nuppy ===== - --------------------------------------------- View my Websight & CDR Trade page at: http://midy.topcities.com/ _____________________________________________ Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 14:49:44 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Man stalking and skill fucking...just another day on fegmaniax On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, glen uber wrote: > >> who determined the mousestalker was actually eb? > > Actually, Maustalker was my friend Cliff who will always be remembered > for one of the more memorable posts to this list. He essentially > admitted he was a perv and was trolling for "girls with glasses". Eb > taunted him mercilessly and Cliff unsubbed a few days later. I'm still not convinced. In fact, I'm registering the domain name eb.gov and devoting a site to things like the difference between e flat and c triple sharp and the big question I know all of you have been asking since they started playing vicar of dibley on pbs, "should sex with ANY farm animal ALWAYS be considered wrong". Of course we know this one will become two seperate discussions, right? gSs ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #108 ********************************