From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #98 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 28 2002 Volume 11 : Number 098 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: the return of Prince's keyboard player ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: the return of Prince's keyboard player [steve ] Re: fegbook alert [Christopher Gross ] Re: elixirs & remedies [badly drawn woj ] Re: anniversary [Ken Ostrander ] RE: anniversary ["Poole, R. Edward" ] Ixion's wheel ["Natalie Jane" ] brimstone & tinseltown [Ken Ostrander ] RE: anniversary [Mike Swedene ] RE: anniversary ["Larry Tucker" ] Re: ozzy rocks [gSs ] reap [Ken Ostrander ] Re: ozzy rocks [Jeff Dwarf ] Reap ["Thomas, Ferris" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #97 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Reap ["Michael Wells" ] so why doesn't Robyn visit??? [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] squeezing tighter and tighter [gSs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 06:00:47 -0800 (PST) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: the return of Prince's keyboard player gnat buzzed: > They're from Liverpool and their stage shtick is wearing > surgical masks and scrubs. So *that's* what happened to Prince's old keyboard player. Were there women in the band wearing sparkly purple trenchcoats with big, assymetrical hair and fishnet gloves? Hmm. Plus ca change, I suppose. Now where did I leave that Fuzzbox record? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards. http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 09:34:18 -0500 From: Brian Subject: Re: anniversary At Tuesday, 26 March 2002, JIll wrote: >It's pouring in Boston. A year ago tonight it was snowing. I was in >paradise at the Paradise gawping at a sight I never thought I'd see in >this life - the Soft Boys. I can't believe that it has been a year. >Sigh. > Yep. A whole year. A lot has happened! And now we have the Robyn Sings and a new Soft Boys album to look forward to. Hopefully in another year will have a new Softs tour so we can all see Eddie (and RH!) again. Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:59:20 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: the return of Prince's keyboard player On Wednesday, March 27, 2002, at 08:00 AM, Eugene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > So *that's* what happened to Prince's old keyboard player. > > Were there women in the band wearing sparkly purple trenchcoats with > big, > assymetrical hair and fishnet gloves? Hmm. I think Wendy was lately in Neil Finn's band at SxSW. - - Steve __________ I know that it's cynical, but I feel that civil liberties-for a lot of these people in Congress-are either an inconvenience or a campaign slogan. They care only about money and power. - Wil Wheaton ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:32:57 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: fegbook alert On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, dmw wrote: > Miss Rhode Island has big hair, all tendrilly looking and slicky-sleek. > The top part of her jiggles as she wheels herself on stage in an extremely > battered-looking wheelchair. She just has the two arms, but she seems to > have too many legs. Also too many teeth. We have seen her practicing > water ballet in the hotel swimming pool. (Later, during the talent show, > she will perform in tank made of specially treated glass.) We have to > admit Miss Rhode Island has talent but we have trouble saying her name. > Too many sibilants. Also, at breakfast her breath smells of raw fish and > at night the hoarse mutterings of spells, incantations, the names of the > elder gods heard through the wall have caused us to lose sleep. > > Miss Rhode Island's bathing costume is designed to show off her many > shapely legs, which she waves and writhes at the judges enticingly. We > decide that we will never, never live in Rhode Island. Perhaps we will > never leave this hotel: perhaps we will just live here. I just had to quote that in full! Interesting that she's Miss Rhode Island, since H.P. Lovecraft was a proud Rhode Islander, and beings with many legs, fishy qualities and a propensity for muttering the names of elder gods are often described as "Lovecraftian." Surely this can't be a coincidence? (I guess mustering the energy to consult the author's web site might help answer that question.) - --Chris, about to reboot his oh-so-stable NT workstation ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:41:19 -0500 From: badly drawn woj Subject: Re: elixirs & remedies when we last left our heroes, Eclipse exclaimed: >anyone know anything about the Scotopia Pictures film from the GLH tour >called "Elixirs & Remedies", which seems to have been stuck in >pre-pre-release forever? i just heard from kris (the producer) the other day. nothing concrete about a release yet, but it looks like there will be a couple screenings of the film in may -- one in seattle and one in worcester, mass. more details as i get them. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:08:21 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: anniversary >It's pouring in Boston. A year ago tonight it was snowing. I was in >paradise at the Paradise gawping at a sight I never thought I'd see in >this life - the Soft Boys. I can't believe that it has been a year. >Sigh. neither can i. big a polly logies to all regarding my video footage of that show. i will do some more experimenting with the transfer from high 8 to vhs using my roomates shitty vcr. i wouldn't exactly call myself technologically savvy. in fact, i think that machines have an adverse reaction to my...um...aura. i'll be at the paradise tonight for spearhead. we all need a little soulshine. ken "who's got the crack?" the kenster np the moldy peaches ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:26:05 -0500 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: RE: anniversary If you want, I would be happy to give your video an edit -- I have a semi-professional set-up for digital editing (digital 8 video cam; iMac DV; Final Cut Pro software) and I employed said set-up to my video of the Baltimore Soft Boys show to good effect (if I do say so myself -- anyone who has a copy wish to agree or disagree?). If you don't have a copy of that video, I'd be happy to send one along. The only hitch is that I would need the lowest generation dub (preferably the original) to use in digitizing the footage (I could send it right back, after I dumped the video onto my hard drive, I would no longer need the video tape). From there, all editing takes place in digital form and is only outputted back to videotape as a final project. The really nice feature of the digital editing process -- well, one of them at least -- is that I can replace the camcorder soundtrack with the excellent CDR recording of the show that circulated last year. Let me know if you are interested -- it is a time consuming process, the editing that is, but it is a labor of love and that makes it worthwhile. I keep meaning to send a copy of the edited Baltimore show to Robyn Enterprises (c/o the UM.com webmaster, unless anyone has a better idea), but I haven't gotten around to it yet. If I do this one, too, maybe that would be enough to get me to send them both in to the Boys. p.s. to the list: Are there any other videos of the SBs 2001 tour that I might be able to acquire & edit? - -ed 'digital hub' poole - -----Original Message----- From: Ken Ostrander [mailto:kenster@MIT.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:08 AM To: ye ol' feg Subject: Re: anniversary >It's pouring in Boston. A year ago tonight it was snowing. I was in >paradise at the Paradise gawping at a sight I never thought I'd see in >this life - the Soft Boys. I can't believe that it has been a year. >Sigh. neither can i. big a polly logies to all regarding my video footage of that show. i will do some more experimenting with the transfer from high 8 to vhs using my roomates shitty vcr. i wouldn't exactly call myself technologically savvy. in fact, i think that machines have an adverse reaction to my...um...aura. i'll be at the paradise tonight for spearhead. we all need a little soulshine. ken "who's got the crack?" the kenster np the moldy peaches ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 08:51:07 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: Ixion's wheel >I've gotta figure that'll be Rhadamanthus, Minos and Aeacus. Hey, I actually understood that. Years of my childhood spent pouring over Edith Hamilton's "Greek Mythology" have finally paid off. >We decide that we will never, never live in Rhode Island. Perhaps we >will >never leave this hotel: perhaps we will just live here. This is fucking awesome. >How do they say "got shafted at the Oscars" in Maori? Speaking of Oscars, I can't believe "Ghost World" got nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay! Go Daniel Clowes! Go Daniel Clowes! OK, he didn't win - - but still, even a nomination is pretty damn cool. "The Royal Tenenbaums" didn't win anything. Damn this world. Damn it all to hell. n. (off to Oakland in 11.5 hours) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:00:11 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: brimstone & tinseltown >(AP) - Testimony resumed Tuesday in the trial on the constitutionality of a >federal law requiring libraries to screen out Internet pornography, which >librarians complain forces them to be "thought police." The trial is expected >to last nine days. A three-judge panel began hearing testimony on Monday. > > >I've gotta figure that'll be Rhadamanthus, Minos and Aeacus. hmmm...mixing mythology a bit, you know, the lustful only get the second ring of hell; but the fraudulent get consigned to the lowest two circles. http://www.carthage.edu/departments/english/dante/frames/MapsofHell/MoserMap .jpeg >>How do they say "got shafted at the Oscars" in Maori? they claim it's an honor just to be nominated; but getting groped by some drunk producer has gotta qualify. another possiblility might be listening to bad advice on what to wear. then again, you can win and lose: http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/top_ten/ 'ster ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:21:41 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: RE: anniversary Ed did do a splendid job witht he show. I have shown many a friend it. I nominate Ed for the Oscars for next year into the infamous "Best Assembledge Of Bootlegged Material in a Documentarian-esque Form (Short)" Hear! Hear! HErbie - --- "Poole, R. Edward" wrote: > If you want, I would be happy to give your video an > edit -- I have a > semi-professional set-up for digital editing > (digital 8 video cam; iMac DV; > Final Cut Pro software) and I employed said set-up > to my video of the > Baltimore Soft Boys show to good effect (if I do say > so myself -- anyone who > has a copy wish to agree or disagree?). If you > don't have a copy of that > video, I'd be happy to send one along. The only > hitch is that I would need > the lowest generation dub (preferably the original) > to use in digitizing the > footage (I could send it right back, after I dumped > the video onto my hard > drive, I would no longer need the video tape). From > there, all editing > takes place in digital form and is only outputted > back to videotape as a > final project. The really nice feature of the > digital editing process -- > well, one of them at least -- is that I can replace > the camcorder soundtrack > with the excellent CDR recording of the show that > circulated last year. > > Let me know if you are interested -- it is a time > consuming process, the > editing that is, but it is a labor of love and that > makes it worthwhile. I > keep meaning to send a copy of the edited Baltimore > show to Robyn > Enterprises (c/o the UM.com webmaster, unless anyone > has a better idea), but > I haven't gotten around to it yet. If I do this > one, too, maybe that would > be enough to get me to send them both in to the > Boys. > > p.s. to the list: Are there any other videos of the > SBs 2001 tour that I > might be able to acquire & edit? > > -ed 'digital hub' poole > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Ostrander [mailto:kenster@MIT.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:08 AM > To: ye ol' feg > Subject: Re: anniversary > > > >It's pouring in Boston. A year ago tonight it was > snowing. I was in > >paradise at the Paradise gawping at a sight I never > thought I'd see in > >this life - the Soft Boys. I can't believe that it > has been a year. > >Sigh. > > neither can i. big a polly logies to all regarding > my video footage of that > show. i will do some more experimenting with the > transfer from high 8 to > vhs > using my roomates shitty vcr. i wouldn't exactly > call myself > technologically > savvy. in fact, i think that machines have an > adverse reaction to > my...um...aura. > > i'll be at the paradise tonight for spearhead. we > all need a little > soulshine. > > ken "who's got the crack?" the kenster > > np the moldy peaches > > ============================================================================This > e-mail message and any attached files are > confidential and are intended solely for the use of > the addressee(s) named above. This communication may > contain material protected by attorney-client, work > product, or other privileges. 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Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards. http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:40:20 -0500 From: "Larry Tucker" Subject: RE: anniversary ABSOLUTELY! Ed is the "video"MAN. Like Mike, I've wowed many a person with this. Hand down the best single cam shot show I have ever seen and the "pro" editing is the icing on the cake. - -Larry One of the soundmen. |-----Original Message----- |From: Mike Swedene [mailto:pulp_101@yahoo.com] |Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:22 PM |To: Poole, R. Edward; 'Ken Ostrander' |Cc: Conewatch (E-mail) |Subject: RE: anniversary | | |Ed did do a splendid job witht he show. |I have shown many a friend it. | |I nominate Ed for the Oscars for next year into the |infamous "Best Assembledge Of Bootlegged Material in a |Documentarian-esque Form (Short)" | |Hear! Hear! | |HErbie | | | |--- "Poole, R. Edward" wrote: |> If you want, I would be happy to give your video an |> edit -- I have a |> semi-professional set-up for digital editing |> (digital 8 video cam; iMac DV; |> Final Cut Pro software) and I employed said set-up |> to my video of the |> Baltimore Soft Boys show to good effect (if I do say |> so myself -- anyone who |> has a copy wish to agree or disagree?). If you |> don't have a copy of that |> video, I'd be happy to send one along. The only |> hitch is that I would need |> the lowest generation dub (preferably the original) |> to use in digitizing the |> footage (I could send it right back, after I dumped |> the video onto my hard |> drive, I would no longer need the video tape). From |> there, all editing |> takes place in digital form and is only outputted |> back to videotape as a |> final project. The really nice feature of the |> digital editing process -- |> well, one of them at least -- is that I can replace |> the camcorder soundtrack |> with the excellent CDR recording of the show that |> circulated last year. |> |> Let me know if you are interested -- it is a time |> consuming process, the |> editing that is, but it is a labor of love and that |> makes it worthwhile. I |> keep meaning to send a copy of the edited Baltimore |> show to Robyn |> Enterprises (c/o the UM.com webmaster, unless anyone |> has a better idea), but |> I haven't gotten around to it yet. If I do this |> one, too, maybe that would |> be enough to get me to send them both in to the |> Boys. |> |> p.s. to the list: Are there any other videos of the |> SBs 2001 tour that I |> might be able to acquire & edit? |> |> -ed 'digital hub' poole |> |> -----Original Message----- |> From: Ken Ostrander [mailto:kenster@MIT.EDU] |> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 11:08 AM |> To: ye ol' feg |> Subject: Re: anniversary |> |> |> >It's pouring in Boston. A year ago tonight it was |> snowing. I was in |> >paradise at the Paradise gawping at a sight I never |> thought I'd see in |> >this life - the Soft Boys. I can't believe that it |> has been a year. |> >Sigh. |> |> neither can i. big a polly logies to all regarding |> my video footage of that |> show. i will do some more experimenting with the |> transfer from high 8 to |> vhs |> using my roomates shitty vcr. i wouldn't exactly |> call myself |> technologically |> savvy. in fact, i think that machines have an |> adverse reaction to |> my...um...aura. |> |> i'll be at the paradise tonight for spearhead. we |> all need a little |> soulshine. |> |> ken "who's got the crack?" the kenster |> |> np the moldy peaches |> |> |=============================================================== |=============This |> e-mail message and any attached files are |> confidential and are intended solely for the use of |> the addressee(s) named above. This communication may |> contain material protected by attorney-client, work |> product, or other privileges. 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Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards. http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:12:33 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: ozzy rocks ozzy's wife, the ignorant whore, to which she agrees said the best fucking neighbor anyone could ever expect to have is pat boone. she threw an old ham into the neighbor's yard and the police came out. The next evening or so, ozzy threw a piece of wood through the same neighbor's window. I think the show ended there. Ozzy was almost oozing when he walked but he was still quite witty so I think he is just playing a part plus previews showed him conditioning for a tour and he looked fairly well. is this a repeat? and if so, what happened after he broke the neighbor's window? gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:07:32 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: reap dudley moore, 66 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:04:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: ozzy rocks gSs wrote: > ozzy's wife, the ignorant whore, to which she agrees said the best > fucking neighbor anyone could ever expect to have is pat boone. > > she threw an old ham into the neighbor's yard and the police came > out. The next evening or so, ozzy threw a piece of wood through the > same neighbor's window. I think the show ended there. Ozzy was almost > oozing when he walked but he was still quite witty so I think he is > just playing a part plus previews showed him conditioning for a tour > and he looked fairly well. is this a repeat? no, amazingly mtv is actually showing more than 3 episodes of a new show before kicking into repeats (not counting re-airings through the week). > and if so, what happened after he broke the neighbor's window? they'll either show us next week, or we'll just have to imagine ozzy went over and bit their miserable heads off. ===== "This week, the White House says President Bush meant no disrespect when he referred to the Pakistani people as 'Pakis.' But just to be on the safe side, White House staffers have cancelled his trip to Nigeria" -- Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards. http://movies.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 17:09:43 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: Reap Dudley Moore of a brain disorder. http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/living/0327moore.html ________________________________ Ferris Scott Thomas Lead Programmer The Production Group McGraw-Hill Education 860.409.2612 ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (email) Never be afraid to try something new. Remember: amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:26:36 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #97 Michael pt. 1: >"they think it's all over...it is now" as Hurst poked in the last (a hat >trick, wasn't it?) yup indeed. Only one ever in a world cup final. Sebastian sprach: >Winter is coming. sigh true, true Michael pt. 2: >> Taroh semua pokok rendah sama-sama di-situ!* >> *it means "Put all the small shrubs together over there!" in Malay > >:-p > >How do they say "got shafted at the Oscars" in Maori? > >Michael "bag the talent, I gotta admit that Halle Berry's kinda cute" Wells and a :-p back for that one! I'd guess "E patu ana Peter Jackson kei nga Ohakara", but my Maori is very bad, and my dictionary doesn't extend to "got shafted" James (you're right about Halle Berry, though) "Bikin panjan meja makan dua kaki" (Malay: "Lengthen the dining table by two feet") James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:17:05 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Reap Milton Berle, 93. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 22:44:42 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: so why doesn't Robyn visit??? James RIP Milton Berle and Dudley Moore James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:52:41 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: squeezing tighter and tighter please read: http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/USDAComment.htm if nothing else, please read this: "Civil Penalties (recommended program change) The PPA authorizes the Secretary of Agriculture to hold, seize, quarantine, treat, apply other remedial measures to, destroy, or otherwise dispose of any plant, plant pest, noxious weed, biological control organism, plant product, article, or means of conveyance moving into or through the United States, or interstate, or moved into or through the United States, or interstate, that the Secretary has reason to believe is a plant pest or noxious weed, is infested with a plant pest or noxious weed, or is in violation of the PPA. This authority includes action on the progeny of any plant, biological control organism, plant product, plant pests, or noxious weed. If a plant, plant pest, noxious weed, biological control organism, plant product, article, or means of conveyance is in violation of the PPA, the Secretary may issue civil penalties ranging from $1,000 for an initial violation by an individual moving regulated articles not for monetary gain, to $250,000 per violation. The Safeguarding Report recognizes that the PPA civil penalty fee structure provides an effective deterrent against violations of the regulations. APHIS plans to use our new authority under the PPA to issue civil penalties for noncompliance with the regulations." NOTE: "An individual moving articles not for monetary gain" means home gardeners. gSs ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #98 *******************************