From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #92 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, March 20 2002 Volume 11 : Number 092 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Apple-lications [gSs ] bottom line [badly drawn woj ] hitchcocktour.com ["marcus slade" ] I am not She ["Not quite prim roses and petulant pansies" ] I Am Not Flea ["Mike Wells" ] Re: Apple-lications [gSs ] Re: I Am Not Flea [Brian ] Re: I Am Not Flea [Brian ] RE: You are not Thee ["Bachman, Michael" ] Marillion.com [Tom Clark ] Re: moon liiii - iiiight ! ["Maximilian Lang" ] Life is good. ["Maximilian Lang" ] Old Pics ["Thomas, Ferris" ] Re: moon liiii - iiiight ! [badly drawn woj ] Re: moon liiii - iiiight ! ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: hitchcocktour.com ["Stewart C. Russell" ] RE: moon liiii - iiiight ! ["Poole, R. Edward" ] Re: eskimo chain article/Alex Chilton ["ross taylor" ] Re: Old Pics [Michael R Godwin ] reap [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:26:24 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Apple-lications On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > I couldn't care less for Java frankly. > > I think it's a useless technology that uses way too much > > bandwidth and bogs down the Internet. > > Maybe I just haven't seen a decent use for it. Java practicality has so far escaped me but Java Script when used in conjunction with VB Script, helps me manage data and adds a great deal of efficient functionality to asp's, especially in regard to verifying data entry and type at the client without having to throw all the data back to the host and having to less often submit asp's back to themselves with return flags etc.. Java Script has made my life easier. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:56:08 -0500 From: badly drawn woj Subject: bottom line fegs, i'm going to be at the bottom line this friday (to see susan mckeown, in case anyone is curious -- highly recommended if you like singer/songwriters with vocal chops who don't suck) and will be picking up tickets for the april robyn gig then. if anyone would like me to pick up tickets them, i'd be happy to do so! please let me know and we can make arrangements. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:31:49 From: "marcus slade" Subject: hitchcocktour.com After the emails about tapeing the upcomming tour from a Hitchcock aid I though I would check http://www.hitchcocktour.com/ Lo and behold it looks like a new official site is on the way! Marcus (Leaving Toronto as Stewart is arriving) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:40:05 +0000 From: "Not quite prim roses and petulant pansies" Subject: I am not She "Groovin on an Inner-Plain" was made for a group-sing(Well -- the rest - -does- go in your mouth)and a group dance. I bet 5 bucks Robyn couldn't keep a straight face singing "Midnight Fish"(Any takers?) Im certianly not sure I could keep a straight face listening to it. A cover of some G&S song a capella. With their harmonies it would be fantastically fantastical, especially if it led into "Do Policeman Sing." And a full band on "I Am Not Me" might be more psychosonic power than the universe could withstand, therefore leading into Heaven Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:45:36 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Apple-lications on 3/19/02 9:26 AM, gSs at gshell@metronet.com wrote: > On Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Stewart C. Russell wrote: >>> I couldn't care less for Java frankly. > > Java practicality has so far escaped me but Java Script when used in > conjunction with VB Script, helps me manage data and adds a great deal of > efficient functionality to asp's, Just for the record, JavaScript is just a deceptively named scripting language which has nothing to do with Java. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:04:36 -0600 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: I Am Not Flea Gimme da SB's on: Meat Furry Green Atom Bowl The President The Crawling Oceanside Adoration of the City Or Hell, gimme Robyn on these solo. Gimme 'em any way to Sunday. Michael "they don't make cartoons like the Super Globetrotters anymore" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:44:05 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Apple-lications On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Tom Clark wrote: > on 3/19/02 9:26 AM, gSs at gshell@metronet.com wrote: > > Java practicality has so far escaped me but Java Script when used in > > conjunction with VB Script, helps me manage data and adds a great deal of > > efficient functionality to asp's, > > Just for the record, JavaScript is just a deceptively named scripting > language which has nothing to do with Java. Correct, which is a real throw considering that VB and VB Script are joined at the scrotum or the hymen which ever you prefer which was in fact the correct thing to do and that is what makes it such a surprise. Deceptively named, but efficient in function. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 15:34:00 -0500 From: Brian Subject: Re: I Am Not Flea At Tuesday, 19 March 2002, Mr. Wells wrote: >Gimme da SB's on: >The Crawling Ooo... that's a good one! BAN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 15:34:00 -0500 From: Brian Subject: Re: I Am Not Flea At Tuesday, 19 March 2002, Mr. Wells wrote: >Gimme da SB's on: >The Crawling Ooo... that's a good one! BAN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:42:13 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: You are not Thee on 3/18/02 7:51 AM, Brian at brian@lazerlove5.com wrote: > So I was listening to 'I am not me' and thought: 'Man, this song > would've been great to hear live on the Soft Boys tour last year. > Much better than Evil Guy or Airscape.' BTW I like both of those > songs. > > So in light of a new thread, or possibly old, what RH songs would > you have liked to hear the Soft Boys Perform live? Non-Soft Boys > songs that is. > Hmmmm..... 1. 1974 2. I Watch The Cars 3. Bass (although I prefer walleye as far as fish goes) 4. Tell Me About Your Drugs 5. Elizabeth Jade Michael Bachman I was going to put Acid Bird on the list, but the SB's performed it in early 1981 according to The Asking Tree, so I guess it dosn't qualify. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:06:11 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #91 >So in light of a new thread, or possibly old, what RH songs would >you have liked to hear the Soft Boys Perform live? Non-Soft Boys >songs that is. > >My list: >1. I am not me >2. Surfer Ghost (why the hell was this song never released?) >3. All I wanna do is fall in love >4. Eaten by her own dinner >5. Flesh Cartoons >6. Nasa Clapping >7. Grooving on an Inner Plane never having seen either the Soft Boys or Robyn live, any songs would be great! However, the following ten Robyn solo or R&E songs would be most entertaining performed by the Soft Boys. Apologies if any of these have actually been performed by them... Devil's Radio De Chirico Street Sally was a Legend Elizabeth Jade The Yip! song Vegetation and Dimes Tropical Flesh Mandala Bass Sleeping with your Devil Mask Flesh no 1 (Beatle Dennis) James PS - for those who are interested in such things, the latest update of my website (actually completed three weeks ago) is finally online at the usual address (see sig for details) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:17:01 -0500 From: Brian Subject: RE: You are not Thee At Tuesday, 19 March 2002, Michael "Midnight Fish" Bachman wrote: > 3. Bass (although I prefer walleye as far as fish goes) Of course you do! You live in the mid-west and near lake Erie: the Walleye capital of the world! (Just coming into season). ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:41:20 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Marillion.com I just finished a book called "Next: The Future Just Happened" by Michael Lewis. It's basically about how, due mostly to the internet, power is shifting away from the "Inside", e.g., corporations, and over to the "Outside", i.e., young entrepreneurs working around the old school business models. An example he uses is the Gnutella network, for instance. Anyway, one anecdote is about Marillion. Apparently, they were getting so hosed by their label that they couldn't afford a U.S. tour to support their latest record, but the fans on the Marillion list took up a collection and raised $60,000 for them to do a tour. As a result, the fans actually financed the band's next record by essentially prepaying for it. Having made their money on the CD, the band could then go to a major label and negotiate a better royalty and promotions deal, enabling the band to get wider distribution and the label got to release a CD to an established fan base with very low overhead. I think this is just the beginning of how music will be released in the future. Instead of labels spending millions trying to manufacture a market for their swill, music that matters will proliferate via it's loyal fan base. I'll contend that the reason acts like Madonna and Britney Spears are so popular on Morpheus is because their product is so disposable in the first place. Quality product from sincere artists will always be rewarded. Does this sound naove? Yeah, probably. - -tc ps - The book is highly recommended if just for the interesting stories. Lewis' tone is fairly condescending, but if you can get past that, he shows some major insight. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:51:25 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: moon liiii - iiiight ! >>So which of the Spinifex monologues was the one >during which Bayard (or woj?) was harrassed for >taping? The one where there's shouting off mic >& he says "Well, I'm just going to go on"? >That'd be cool, kinda like Altamont. > >Ross Taylor LOL, I don't know, that was at Irving Plaza. Thanks, Max _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:58:48 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Life is good. Osbournes on MTV at 10:30, ah life is good. http://www.mtv.com/onair/osbournes/ Max _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 19:02:40 -0500 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: Old Pics Hello, all. In a recent bout of bit and byte mining on my machine at home I stumbled across the long-unposted photos from last year's Soft Boys gigs. There's not too many, but they're back up and located at: http://www.ochremedia.com/photos/omPhoto.php4?pg=softboys.php4 I also managed to find a couple of older pics as well. Robyn at the Knitting Factory circa, what, '97 as well as a shot from The Backstage club (?) in Seattle. I'll post those either tonight or tomorrow. ________________________________ Ferris Scott Thomas Lead Programmer The Production Group McGraw-Hill Education 860.409.2612 ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (email) If you can't "DO", teach. If you can't "TEACH", make educational software. If you can't "MAKE EDUCATIONAL SOFTWARE", then track people who do, with a database. This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorized copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:43:20 -0500 From: badly drawn woj Subject: Re: moon liiii - iiiight ! >>So which of the Spinifex monologues was the one >>during which Bayard (or woj?) was harrassed for >>taping? The one where there's shouting off mic >>& he says "Well, I'm just going to go on"? >>That'd be cool, kinda like Altamont. >LOL, I don't know, that was at Irving Plaza. that was senor bayardo who got busted. it's kinda funny since the roving waitress had spotted my deck before the show while taking drink orders. i think she sent the goons back to get me but they found bayard first. my recording came out crappy, by the way (bad mic day) -- but ferris' came out fine, as did at least one other taper's whose work is in circulation. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:49:10 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: moon liiii - iiiight ! >From: badly drawn woj >Reply-To: badly drawn woj >To: "worst...list...EVER!" >Subject: Re: moon liiii - iiiight ! >Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 20:43:20 -0500 > >>>So which of the Spinifex monologues was the one >>>during which Bayard (or woj?) was harrassed for >>>taping? The one where there's shouting off mic >>>& he says "Well, I'm just going to go on"? >>>That'd be cool, kinda like Altamont. > >>LOL, I don't know, that was at Irving Plaza. > >that was senor bayardo who got busted. it's kinda funny since the roving >waitress had spotted my deck before the show while taking drink orders. i >think she sent the goons back to get me but they found bayard first. > >my recording came out crappy, by the way (bad mic day) -- but ferris' came >out fine, as did at least one other taper's whose work is in circulation. > >woj And Mine too. Max _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:38:08 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: hitchcocktour.com marcus slade wrote: > > (Leaving Toronto as Stewart is arriving) hey I don't smell that bad, you know. The rumours are exaggerated. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:43:09 -0500 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: RE: moon liiii - iiiight ! >>That'd be cool, kinda like Altamont. Yeah, any similarity to Altamont would be cool in my book --- well, except for the stabbings and the beatings with pool cues and the hell's angels and, good god, worst of all, that f**king CAPE that Mick was wearing (worse even than THOSE PANTS). ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. 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I hope one of your hands goes evil & starts hitting you in the back of the head. - --- The article mentions Seligman as having worked w/ Alex Chilton. I'm a Chilton fan & have a *very* faint connection thru an old family friend in Memphis -- a doctor there who plays classical piano & jazz clarinet & coached Chilton in his early Boxtops days. The same man even taught me a couple of songs. I was taught guitar by the same man who taught Alex Chilton! But I never practiced. :( Anyway, I'm not really up on Chiltonia -- he may be infamous as someone who delayed Chilton's punk destiny. But I've also never gotten to the bottom of the Chilton/Hitchcock connection. I've seen it written that Chilton's "Live in London" record was him supported by the Soft Boys. Including Robyn? Anyone know more about this? Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:55:02 -0500 From: Brian Subject: Re: eskimo chain article/Alex Chilton At Wednesday, 20 March 2002, you wrote: >Ian Penman (quoted in article)-- > >>These songs are approachable only at the dimmest angle of lumpen- intellectual >savvy, a >level contaminated by free > association and subconscious games." > >Fuck you. I hope one of your hands goes evil & >starts hitting you in the back of the head. Nice! >--- > >The article mentions Seligman as having worked >w/ Alex Chilton. I'm a Chilton fan & have a >*very* faint connection thru an old family >friend in Memphis -- a doctor there who plays >classical piano & jazz clarinet & coached >Chilton in his early Boxtops days. The same man >even taught me a couple of songs. I was >taught guitar by the same man who taught Alex >Chilton! But I never practiced. :( Anyway, I'm >not really up on Chiltonia -- he may be infamous >as someone who delayed Chilton's punk destiny. And right before UM was recorded Matthew played Bass on Bruce Wooley's album "English Garden." A fine pop record. >But I've also never gotten to the bottom of the >Chilton/Hitchcock connection. I've seen it >written that Chilton's "Live in London" record >was him supported by the Soft Boys. Including >Robyn? Anyone know more about this? Not Robyn, but Matthew and Morris backed him as the rhythm section for a live album (I've never heard). Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:19:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Old Pics On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Thomas, Ferris wrote: > Hello, all. > In a recent bout of bit and byte mining on my machine at home I stumbled > across the long-unposted photos from last year's Soft Boys gigs. There's > not too many, but they're back up and located at: > http://www.ochremedia.com/photos/omPhoto.php4?pg=softboys.php4 Nice pix, Ferris - love those coloured lights! - - Mike Godwin PS A bit of glamour entered my mundane plod through existence today when my ankle fracture was examined by Steph Cook OBE! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:41:19 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: reap R.A.Lafferty James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #92 *******************************