From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #63 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, February 21 2002 Volume 11 : Number 063 Today's Subjects: ----------------- which Bottom Line show ["mel" ] FW: it's Time... ["Poole, R. Edward" ] Bottom Line ["Abydos *" ] Actual Robyn content shock horror! (film at eleven) [grutness@surf4nix.co] Re: pining for the soul [Ken Ostrander ] Re: Actual Robyn content shock horror! (film at eleven) ["Michael Wells" ] Why Not Buy Two? ["Michael Wells" ] Tales From The Underwater,Reminder. ["Maximilian Lang" ] i forget which thread this went with [The other Mr Feg ] Re: Boats, Blims, first gig, first RH gig [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Actual Robyn content shock horror! (film at eleven) [Michael R Godwin] Re: Actual Robyn content shock horror! (film at eleven) ["Kenneth Johnson] Re: Early Floyd ["matt sewell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:28:16 -0000 From: "mel" Subject: which Bottom Line show are folks going to? both? melissa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:58:46 -0500 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: FW: it's Time... Setting aside the inherently subjective and culturally-dependent nature of this whole inquiry (I'm doubting that Noev appreciates the "significance" of the day in quite the same way), I have a factual problem with the description that Bayard forwarded: By my calculations, this will happen again in only 110 years -- 9:12pm (21:12) on 21 December (21/12) in the year 2112. - -----Original Message----- From: bayard [mailto:bayard@bitmine.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 12:35 PM To: Buckingham Sandwich Subject: it's Time... > Believe it or not, but at 8.02 p.m. on February 20th this year will > be an historic moment in time. It will not be marked by the chiming > of any clocks or the ringing of bells, but at that precise time, > on that specific date, something will happen which has not occurred > for 1,001 years and will never happen again. > As the clock ticks over from 8:01pm on Wednesday, February 20, > time will --- for sixty seconds only --- read in perfect symmetry: > 2002, 2002, 2002, or to be more precise - 20:02, 20/02, 2002. > This historic event will never have the same poignancy as the 11th hour > of the 11th day of the 11th month which marks Armistice Day, but it > is an event which has only ever happened once before, and is something > which will never be repeated. The last occasion that time read in such > a symmetrical pattern was long before the days of the digital watch > and the 24 hour clock at 10.01am on January 10, 1001. > And because the clock only goes up to 23.59, it is something that > will never happen again. > For what it's worth, enjoy the moment............ - -- http://glasshotel.net ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:58:28 +0000 From: "Abydos *" Subject: Bottom Line So--April 12th at the Bottom Line, There are two shows. Which one? Both? Kay "What was the old woman made of?""Fuck-arse rock n roll" Robyn Hitchcock I Am Not Me - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:06:57 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Actual Robyn content shock horror! (film at eleven) I was a busily singing Brenda's Iron Sledge to my SO Alice, and she came up with a plausible explanation for one of those "why is that there?" lines. Brenda's Iron Sledge, Please don't call me Reg, it's not my name. If Brenda is indeed HM Q E II, then the sledge is the government, led at the time by the iron lady Maggie rot-in-hell Thatcher. So far so good. But "Please don't call me reg"? The queen is Reg - as is still seen on the back of British coins - D G Fid Def Reg ("By the grace of God Defender of the Faith and Queen"). Reg for Regina = queen! Any thoughts? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:00:53 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: pining for the soul >I have the impression that you may >be fairly totalitarian in your stance of America's wrong-ness. I am >of the impression that you may view things through this filter, and >consequently shape things accordingly to fit that viewpoint. sometimes i feel like there's a cloud over my head. it's easy to be dismissive and get bogged down in the nastyness. it can take a real effort to try and be positive. there is no better feeling than working with people in your own community and actively trying to work out a solution. we all need a support network. of course, then there's guilt by association... >It sounds to me that you are contradicting yourself -- you call the >tape questionable, you call into account translation issues, and you >generally feel we should not have targets bin Laden and al-Queda. But >then you suggest he might have been involved to some degree. i question everything: the tape, the taliban, the northern alliance, the news, our role in the situation in afghanistan before september, and our right to take this military action rather than engage in an international solution. if everything is questionable, including my perspective, then you get lost in the swamp of moral relativism. a standard international definition of "terrorism" would help immensely. i guess there's a contradiction in the concept of bemoaning the repressive regimes and also bemoaning the united states coming in and removing them. of course, we're not the world's police force and we shouldn't be; yet we tend to take international law into our own hands. there are plenty of repressive regimes that we don't do anything about or worse actually support. i was watching a documentary on the survival of sadaam in iraq and there was a point just after the gulf war when a significant portion of the population revolted and he came very close to losing his grip on the country. the united states refused to get involved. that would've been the best time to try and work something out; but we opted out instead and sadaam regained control and killed tens of thousands. now it seems that we're ready to go in after ten years of sanctions and hundreds of thousands are dead. >>and how does it justify what we've done? that is, bomb the hell >>out of one of the poorest, most desolate countries in the world. it >>just looks >>like revenge. > >Well, as you said, "our actions in afghanistan definitely routed the >taliban and al-qaeda." While you may debate whether or not that >provides sufficient justification, I would think that it certainly >shows a reason that extends past "revenge." It breaks up a network -- >financed by millions of dollars and sheltered by a rather nasty >"government" -- dedicated to bringing more such 9-11's to our people. >Whether or not that was worth the inevitable killing of Afghan >innocents, and whether or not those same goals could have been >reached another way, is certainly debatable. But to call it mere >revenge seems to be only an emotional response. right; but i did say "seems like" (...hmmm, glass hotel...actual content?). actually, i think it's more a matter of 'credibility'. we can't let people think that they can get away with this kind of insubordination. it reminds me of the sopranos. now, the perpetrators of the attack knew what they were getting into and most likely wanted the kind of response they knew we would give; but the compounding of innocent deaths upon innocent deaths is too much for me. the cycle of violence has to stop somewhere. >?(Of course, only, what, four >or five of us are reading this thread? ;) ah, the benefit of the digest makes itself clear. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:04:14 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: Actual Robyn content shock horror! (film at eleven) > Reg for Regina = queen! > > Any thoughts? Well done! And the bit about the sprouts? Michael "pointing to Norway with two fingers and a thumb" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:32:36 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Why Not Buy Two? One of the three Segway scooters on auction at Amazon crossed $100,000 today. Just think, for that kind of cash you could buy over 6600 copies of "Jewels for Sophia" (just in case one scratched). I didn't have the heart to see what a 'Roots' beret was going for. RH tickets haven't gone on sale for Chicago yet, though tix for some other shows happening after his date are available. Found out today they squeezed Bob Mould in for a couple of gigs at the Park West in early April, including one on a Friday night. That could be way fun. I spent a miserable day being deposed in a Federal civil suit. I also had "Eye" in the car for the grey and rainy late-afternoon drive home. I think it's now my favorite album. Michael "I f***ing hate lawyers, nothing personal Ed" Wells at home and resting up for knee surgery tomorrow ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 21:41:11 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Tales From The Underwater,Reminder. Just wanted to remind those of you who want this that this friday is the deadline for the tree. I also want to remind you folks that it will be posted in mp3 soon(details to follow). I hope to have the assignments for the tree out by monday. Thanks, Max _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 00:09:34 -0500 From: "n'woj" Subject: Feb 22 gig - more info [Yahoo! Clubs: Robyn Hitchcock] >Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:24:03 PST >To: woj@smoe.org >From: Control_B >Reply-To: yahoo-dev-null@yahoo-inc.com >Subject: Feb 22 gig - more info [Yahoo! Clubs: Robyn Hitchcock] > >Here's what I got from phoning the V&A: > >The event's called "Friday Late View - Dislocation: Museum music 'Shhhhh!'" >from 6.30 - 10pm and costs a measly #7.50 >In conjunction with Notting Hill Arts, it sounds like a mini-festival under one >roof: the stages are (if I got this right) Beach Club, Acid Ranch, Rota, One >World Live, Jay Hannan and Qawwali Funk > >In the Acid Ranch, RH starts his acoustic set at 8.15 and goes on until 10pm, >with guest DJs The Hives (of all people). > >020 7942 2211 - box office. > >The people at the V&A didn't seem to know too much about it either. But they >definitely mentioned Robyn Hitchcock, so I'm there. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 17:43:55 +1030 From: minister of misinformation Subject: register now you bastards, Ok Fegs, you gotta sign up here, or else the goon squad will come in the night to sprit you away . http://www.whitehouse.org/initiatives/patriot/index.asp Are you patriots or what ! Or (as I suspect is true ) are you all just a bunch of commie faggot pinko subversives ! Prove me wrong, act now and confirm you are red blooded Americans ! commander Lang . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 01:07:42 -0800 From: The other Mr Feg Subject: Re: Robyn in the 1770's Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey: > ... I remember Robyn was > wearing a fetching aubergine ruffled collar atop a green velvet top with > gold piping in the form of tiny eels, and also an embarrassing codpiece - > but his periwig was starched perfectly. Some things never change, eh? > Robyn (unusually) > took a turn at the harpsichord; and as I recall, the highlight was Robyn's > then-new composition "Eine Kleine Fischmusik." As Sir Charles Rammington-Bludgeon, then Grand Vice-Master of Charter Hall College, remarked, "Call this fuckin' racket music? Call the Beadles!". I'm sure I don't need to tell you that it was as the boys were being forcibly ejected from the Old Proctor's Smoking Room, that the viola da gamba belonging to Andy's great-great-great grandfather was damaged beyond repair, and the switch was subsequently made to the Fender Precision Bass with active electronics and dual parametric EQ. Sadly, my "Eine Kleine Fischmusik" codpiece has since shrunk in the wash. ~N ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 01:22:50 -0800 From: The other Mr Feg Subject: i forget which thread this went with dmw : > anyway i thought someone wanted to see some old feg-gathering photos? so > there are some at www.mwmw.com/doug/feg98 from a gathering which > apparently took place in may of 1998 or thereabouts at manse du quail. > warning: high cthulhu content. Nice pics! ...in fact so nice that I stole them! (but I did credit Doug!) Check out http://www.njaz.com/fegfotos/show-me.htm If you click on PAGE 3 and then FEGFEST 98 You'll find these, plus more, *and* what some of these people posted subsequently to the list. Don't forget to follow the cones and find all the hidden nooks and crannies. Navigating the site will reveal *many* more feg-gathering photos for whoever wanted them. ~N ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:59:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Boats, Blims, first gig, first RH gig > > PS My first gig - qua gig - must have been the Pink Floyd at the > > Roundhouse, Chalk Farm, New Year's Eve 1966-67. On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, gSs wrote: > This shall be remembered only as unfair plus possibly cruel or at least > rude. Sorry, Greg! You'll be glad to hear that life has subsequently taken its toll. I'm glad I didn't mention that the previous year I had seen Cliff Richard and the Shadows in 'Aladdin' (doesn't count because it was a panto, not a gig, and the band were _miming_). My credibility would have been shot to pieces. James, I like the Reg. for Regina theory. I confirm that a recent penny is inscribed "D.G.REG.F.D.1996.ELIZABETH II" - by the grace of God, Queen, defender of the faith. (The faith, interestingly, being Roman Catholic. The Pope awarded the F.D. title to Henry VIII just before Henry privatised the Church of England). Michael, what is involved in "being deposed" in the US? Over here it's the sort of thing that only happens to monarchs! - - Mike Godwin n.p. Rain Parade, "No easy way down" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 06:58:57 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Actual Robyn content shock horror! (film at eleven) James Dignan wrote: > I was a busily singing Brenda's Iron Sledge to my SO Alice, and she > came up with a plausible explanation for one of those "why is that > there?" lines. > > Brenda's Iron Sledge, Please don't call me Reg, it's not my name. > > If Brenda is indeed HM Q E II, then the sledge is the government, led > at the time by the iron lady Maggie rot-in-hell Thatcher. So far so > good. But "Please don't call me reg"? The queen is Reg - as is still > seen on the back of British coins - D G Fid Def Reg ("By the grace of > God Defender of the Faith and Queen"). Reg for Regina = queen! > > Any thoughts? maybe, though i'm still inclined towards the simpler explanation that it alludes to the Thatcher govt being so uninterested in it's victims, that it never even bothers to know their names, and he chose Reg because it's rhymes with "sledge." (of course, i've always thought that Brenda was Thatcher, not Queen Lizzie). ===== "This week, the White House says President Bush meant no disrespect when he referred to the Pakistani people as 'Pakis.' But just to be on the safe side, White House staffers have cancelled his trip to Nigeria" -- Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 09:05:51 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: sausage, parisian, cheese, some dylan etc... On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Michael R Godwin wrote: > Sorry, Greg! You'll be glad to hear that life has subsequently taken its > toll. That is what normally happens isn't it? At least yer not french.;-{} gSs Little red wagon Little red bike I ain't no monkey but I know what I like. I like the way you love me strong and slow, I'm takin' you with me, honey baby, When I go. Life is sad Life is a bust All ya can do is do what you must. You do what you must do and ya do it well, I'll do it for you, honey baby, Can't you tell? - bd ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:09:44 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Actual Robyn content shock horror! (film at eleven) Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Brenda was Thatcher, not Queen Lizzie Brenda is Private Eye's nickname for HM The Q. Robyn strikes me as an at least occasional PE reader. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:12:39 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Actual Robyn content shock horror! (film at eleven) Jeff wrote: >(of course, i've always thought that >Brenda was Thatcher, not Queen Lizzie). The Uk satirical magazine (and national institution) Private Eye have referred to QEII as Brenda since time immemorial... the reg bit - James that is genius (well, Alice's genius) - it all makes sense... Now, is there any mention of Brian in the RH back catalogue (son no.1 of Brenda)? Cheers Matt >From: Jeff Dwarf >Reply-To: Jeff Dwarf >To: Holy smoe >Subject: Re: Actual Robyn content shock horror! (film at eleven) >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 06:58:57 -0800 (PST) > >James Dignan wrote: > > I was a busily singing Brenda's Iron Sledge to my SO Alice, and she > > came up with a plausible explanation for one of those "why is that > > there?" lines. > > > > Brenda's Iron Sledge, Please don't call me Reg, it's not my name. > > > > If Brenda is indeed HM Q E II, then the sledge is the government, led > > at the time by the iron lady Maggie rot-in-hell Thatcher. So far so > > good. But "Please don't call me reg"? The queen is Reg - as is still > > seen on the back of British coins - D G Fid Def Reg ("By the grace of > > God Defender of the Faith and Queen"). Reg for Regina = queen! > > > > Any thoughts? > >maybe, though i'm still inclined towards the simpler explanation that >it alludes to the Thatcher govt being so uninterested in it's victims, >that it never even bothers to know their names, and he chose Reg >because it's rhymes with "sledge." (of course, i've always thought that >Brenda was Thatcher, not Queen Lizzie). > > >===== >"This week, the White House says President Bush meant no disrespect when he referred to the Pakistani people as 'Pakis.' But just to be on the safe side, White House staffers have cancelled his trip to Nigeria" > -- Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update" > >"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." > -- Theodore Roosevelt > >. >Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games >http://sports.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 07:33:15 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Actual Robyn content shock horror! (film at eleven) "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > > Brenda was Thatcher, not Queen Lizzie > > Brenda is Private Eye's nickname for HM The Q. Robyn strikes me as an > at least occasional PE reader. well then, never mind... ===== "This week, the White House says President Bush meant no disrespect when he referred to the Pakistani people as 'Pakis.' But just to be on the safe side, White House staffers have cancelled his trip to Nigeria" -- Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:50:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Early Floyd > And then he went on to say: > >PS My first gig - qua gig - must have been the Pink Floyd at the > >Roundhouse, Chalk Farm, New Year's Eve 1966-67. On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, matt sewell wrote: > Now you're just showing off! A review of this gig would be something I'd > be very interested in reading... Well, it's quite a while ago. Do you remember the Roundhouse at all? It's a former LNWR locomotive shed (Code 1B) which was converted into an "arts centre" by some people including Arnold Wesker IIRC. Just a big round hall basically. I'd only seen the Floyd once before, doing a short set at an Albert Hall Oxfam fundraiser, where they were billed very oddly alongside Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, Eleanor Bron, Bernard Braden, The Alan Price Set and so forth. They were very noisy and very freaky and I was immediately hooked. At the Roundhouse, they had set up their mark 1 light show, which I think must have been devised and operated by that tech college lecturer who was interviewed on the recent Syd Barrett programme. The light show was all gloopy oil wheels in red, blue etc, and the overall illumination level was extremely low. The group were virtually invisible apart from when their shadows were cast on the wall against the light show. Then you could see that the bass player was very tall and the others weren't. Bear in mind that I knew nothing about them and they hadn't released any records at the time. The bass player appeared to be the leader, but that may just have been because he was the tallest. They played very long, free form numbers which used things like the 'Candy and a Currant Bun' (i.e. 'Smokestack Lightning') riff. I remember the sound as deafening, but all the technical people assure me that nobody had the technology to make very much noise in those days. All I can say is I think that those old speaker cabs could be wound up to quite a level. They definitely played 'Pow R Toc H' and 'Interstellar Overdrive'. During 'Pow R Toc H' it passed midnight, and instead of the usual "ch ch" lyric they started chanting "Happy NEW Year" in a spectral sort of way. Otherwise there were next to no vocals. They might have played 'Set the controls' too. The organist was picking out those full-of-Eastern-promise licks, the bass player did the ostinato bit, and the drums were pounding out a stoned Bo Diddley beat. I have no idea what the guitarist was doing, but in retrospect I guess he was using all kinds of tape loop effects and possibly playing some slide guitar too. They played for an hour fifteen or so, and then the Who came on at about 1 a.m. and I had to go home. The Floyd definitely weren't playing any of the Syd type dippy hippy trippy songs. The only time I ever saw them performed was at the 1967 'Games for May' concert at the QEH, where they played 'See Emily Play', 'Bike' and 'Scarecrow'. - - Mike Godwin PS Now I'm trying to remember how many gigs I saw at the old Roundhouse. Loads of extraordinarily naff Bob Harris-friendly bands like Curved Air, Gracious and Tranquillity. The Pink Fairies of course. Memorably, the Doors and the Jefferson Airplane. Kevin Ayers and the Whole World. The Pretty Things during their psychedelic phase. Graham Bond and Pete Brown. Quintessence, I suspect. David Bowie strumming an acoustic guitar. Plus loads and loads of totally anonymous bands. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:59:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Actual Robyn content shock horror! (film at eleven) On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Brenda is Private Eye's nickname for HM The Q. Robyn strikes me as an at > least occasional PE reader. Yes, and where did Ingrams get it from? Wasn't there a story that the servants at Buck House always refer to HMtQ as 'Brenda'? There is usually a rationale for all the Private Eye code language. Edward Heath was called the Grocer after they did a Christmas record which was a parody of 'Excerpt from a Teenage Opera' and included a line which went something like 'Grocer Heath, Grocer Heath, please don't flash those awful teeth'. Alec Douglas-Home was called Baillie Vass because they had a photo of him with a transposed caption identifying him by that name. Ugandan discussions came from another real story as well, but I've forgotten the details. - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:04:03 -0800 From: "Kenneth Johnson" Subject: Re: Actual Robyn content shock horror! (film at eleven) > > Reg for Regina = queen! > > > > Any thoughts? > > very plausible....yeah! I always thought it was somehow connected to "a guy like Reg who'll leave you gurgling behind the hedge". Robyn does have a propensity to use certain names over again. (Steve, Dennis...) Which are random? (those in Freeze seem so) and which point to actual people? Kenneth "Mr Moose" Johnson ****** "When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it?" --Eleanor Roosevelt "I love America more than any other country in the world and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually." - -- James Baldwin "What does it matter to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?" -- Mahatma Gandhi _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 16:09:29 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Early Floyd *Twisting in mortal agony* Damn you Godwin! You saw The Doors at the Roundhouse! Had I been born then, I would have certainly have gone, as for many years during my adolescence I *was* Jim Morrison... I still have the beads (and, lurking in a bin bag at the back of my wardrobe the leather-looking plastic trousers) to prove it! Have you ever spotted yourself in the video for this event? Cheers for the review, though... gigs... they don't appear to make 'em like they used to... Matt >From: Michael R Godwin >Reply-To: Michael R Godwin >To: matt sewell >CC: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Early Floyd >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:50:02 +0000 (GMT) > > > And then he went on to say: > > >PS My first gig - qua gig - must have been the Pink Floyd at the > > >Roundhouse, Chalk Farm, New Year's Eve 1966-67. > >On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, matt sewell wrote: > > Now you're just showing off! A review of this gig would be something I'd > > be very interested in reading... > >Well, it's quite a while ago. Do you remember the Roundhouse at all? It's >a former LNWR locomotive shed (Code 1B) which was converted into an "arts >centre" by some people including Arnold Wesker IIRC. Just a big round hall >basically. I'd only seen the Floyd once before, doing a short set at an >Albert Hall Oxfam fundraiser, where they were billed very oddly alongside >Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, Eleanor Bron, Bernard Braden, The Alan Price >Set and so forth. They were very noisy and very freaky and I was >immediately hooked. > >At the Roundhouse, they had set up their mark 1 light show, which I think >must have been devised and operated by that tech college lecturer who was >interviewed on the recent Syd Barrett programme. The light show was all >gloopy oil wheels in red, blue etc, and the overall illumination level >was extremely low. The group were virtually invisible apart from when >their shadows were cast on the wall against the light show. Then you could >see that the bass player was very tall and the others weren't. > >Bear in mind that I knew nothing about them and they hadn't released any >records at the time. The bass player appeared to be the leader, but that >may just have been because he was the tallest. They played very long, free >form numbers which used things like the 'Candy and a Currant Bun' (i.e. >'Smokestack Lightning') riff. I remember the sound as deafening, but all >the technical people assure me that nobody had the technology to make very >much noise in those days. All I can say is I think that those old speaker >cabs could be wound up to quite a level. > >They definitely played 'Pow R Toc H' and 'Interstellar Overdrive'. During >'Pow R Toc H' it passed midnight, and instead of the usual "ch ch" lyric >they started chanting "Happy NEW Year" in a spectral sort of way. >Otherwise there were next to no vocals. They might have played 'Set the >controls' too. The organist was picking out those full-of-Eastern-promise >licks, the bass player did the ostinato bit, and the drums were pounding >out a stoned Bo Diddley beat. I have no idea what the guitarist was doing, >but in retrospect I guess he was using all kinds of tape loop effects and >possibly playing some slide guitar too. > >They played for an hour fifteen or so, and then the Who came on at about 1 >a.m. and I had to go home. The Floyd definitely weren't playing any of the >Syd type dippy hippy trippy songs. The only time I ever saw them performed >was at the 1967 'Games for May' concert at the QEH, where they played 'See >Emily Play', 'Bike' and 'Scarecrow'. > > >- Mike Godwin > >PS Now I'm trying to remember how many gigs I saw at the old Roundhouse. >Loads of extraordinarily naff Bob Harris-friendly bands like Curved Air, >Gracious and Tranquillity. The Pink Fairies of course. Memorably, the >Doors and the Jefferson Airplane. Kevin Ayers and the Whole World. The >Pretty Things during their psychedelic phase. Graham Bond and Pete Brown. >Quintessence, I suspect. David Bowie strumming an acoustic guitar. Plus >loads and loads of totally anonymous bands. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #63 *******************************