From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #61 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, February 19 2002 Volume 11 : Number 061 Today's Subjects: ----------------- i forget which thread this went with [dmw ] Robyn's US tour/U.K. show this friday. ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: First show/t-shirt ["Brooks Martin" ] Re: os x usability [Ken Weingold ] friday's london gig ["n'woj" ] Bottom Line show [mary ] Re: B = Bayard ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Sufis and things [Michael R Godwin ] Re: First show/t-shirt [dmw ] Re: drew's first robyn experience [bayard ] Re: friday's london gig ["matt sewell" ] Re: First show/t-shirt ["Kenneth Johnson" ] Re: B = Bayard ["matt sewell" ] Re: Bottom Line show [FS Thomas ] fegdream! ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: First show/t-shirt ["Jason R. Thornton" ] early Ts and concerts [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Bottom Line show ["mel" ] The Cat came back [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Most secret and inviolate rose [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: early Ts and concerts [Ken Weingold ] I tabbed Nick Drake [Tom Clark ] Re: Bottom Line show ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: Bottom Line show ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: early Ts and concerts [Ken Ostrander ] Re: early Ts and concerts [Miles Goosens ] thanks to Quail, James and Abydos [barbara soutar ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 22:07:14 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: i forget which thread this went with ..but i have the right mailing list. i think. anyway i thought someone wanted to see some old feg-gathering photos? so there are some at www.mwmw.com/doug/feg98 from a gathering which apparently took place in may of 1998 or thereabouts at manse du quail. warning: high cthulhu content. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 22:23:36 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Robyn's US tour/U.K. show this friday. I sent an email to David Greenberger asking if any dates were going to be added to the tour, this was his response: "Those are all of them unless any last minute ones get added, but that's doubtful as the truip is pretty well all secured. (There will be a show in London this Friday coming up, which we just got word about and will be added to the site)" Max _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:55:30 -0800 From: drew Subject: os x usability > From: steve > __________ > OS X is faster, smarter, prettier, and easier to use than any version of > Windows. - Robert X. Cringely Perhaps shockingly, I disagree that it's easier to use. In particular, I've yet to grow fond of the new style of Open/Save common dialogs, where you have that peculiar two-pane hierarchy that scrolls horizontally. Perhaps it's just different, not bad, but I'm finding it tough to get used to. I'm really fond of lots of other aspects of it, though. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 21:40:55 -0800 From: "Brooks Martin" Subject: Re: First show/t-shirt Okay... This is a fun topic to get me out of lurk-mode... First show(s): Earth Day 1990 (April 20th?) on the U.S. National Mall in Washington, D.C. I was soooo feggin' excited I nearly wet myself. I'd been a fan for 3 or four years and this was my first opportunity to see him. There was a huge crowd (200,000 people) and Robyn came out after being introduced by John Ritter (!) as "a wonderful storyteller" and said "uh, Hi." Robyn then played a stellar version of "Airscape" and proceded to pull a camera out of his pocket and take a picture of the crowd. "Thanks" he said and that was that. He was obviously scared out of his mind but I didn't care... It was trancendental. Later that evening I saw my first propper Robyn show at the BIRCHMERE in Alexandria, Virginia. I was sooo bummed when I realized that I could've gotten a tape recorder into the gig and hadn't brought one. The show was great from what I remember. There were at least two songs that he played that I didn't know but I have no recollection of how they went or anything. The next night he played at the Birchmere again and I was smart enough to bring a walkman and tape it. Many of you have heard one of the songs from that night...Digital Spaceship. One of the great things about both of those shows was how much piano he played. Anyway... I'm babbling... One more thing, first t-shirt... One long Pair of Eyes in black... I still have it but it's almost unrecognizable as a Robyn shirt because so much of the white of the design has washed off... a treasure nonetheless... Feg-on-ya Babes _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 23:07:59 -0800 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: os x usability On Mon, Feb 18, 2002, drew wrote: > >From: steve > >__________ > >OS X is faster, smarter, prettier, and easier to use than any version of > >Windows. - Robert X. Cringely > > Perhaps shockingly, I disagree that it's easier to use. > In particular, I've yet to grow fond of the new style of > Open/Save common dialogs, where you have that > peculiar two-pane hierarchy that scrolls horizontally. > Perhaps it's just different, not bad, but I'm finding it > tough to get used to. I'm really fond of lots of other > aspects of it, though. I think that's just a matter of getting used to, as you said. I use the column view in the Finder, so I'm used to that. Lets you see nicely exactly where you are. You can make the Save/Open dialog box wider so you see more columns, as well. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:13:12 -0500 From: "n'woj" Subject: friday's london gig update from the museum: On Friday March 22 Robyn, along with Soft Boys Morris and Kimberley, will be appearing in London at the V&A (Victoria & Albert) Museum between 8 and 10 pm. the museum's website is . i don't see any information about the performance there, but it sounds like a last minute addition, so i'm not too surprised. the museum is on cromwell road in south kensington, london. phone numbers are +44 (0)870 442 0808 and +44 (0)20 7942 2000. if anyone calls, please post the details. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 09:46:39 -0500 From: mary Subject: Bottom Line show According to the Bottom Line website, they are taking email reservations for the two April 12th Robyn shows: FRI APR 12 ROBYN HITCHCOCK E-mail Reservations are being accepted for this performance Doors Open 6PM for 7:30 Show/10PM for 10:30 Show All Seats $20.00 http://www.bottomlinecabaret.com/ Most likely tickets are now on sale at the venue as well. So who's coming to town? s.mary np - Mercury Rev "All is Dream" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:14:58 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: B = Bayard Abydos * wrote: > > I first met Bayard ...in Baltimore in 1998 -- or was it 97? Anyway, we ate at The Cultured Pearl (yum! If you ever choose a restaurant to get engaged at, The Cultured Pearl is a good choice. I know I haven't regretted it!) then saw #9 Line play at a local coffeehouse. I have a feeling I mortally offended Bayard's friend John England that night. Bayard was impressed that Catherine lived in a very ornate chapel in a far from ornate part of Baltimore. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:58:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Sufis and things On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, barbara soutar wrote: > I know I said I was finished chatting about Cat, but I have no Robyn > T-shirt stories to offer. I really have to go and see one of his shows, > maybe in Seattle? Does he ever appear in Vancouver? From www.fegmania.org: April 21 The Crocodile Cafe, Seattle, WA, looks like your nearest venue. - - Mike Godwin PS Anyone remember those Mullah Nasruddin stories? They are supposed to make Sufi philosohical points, but many of them just seem to be ordinary jokes. See (amongst many others): - typical story: Nasruddin went to take a bath in the town bathhouse. He was dressed in rags and received no attention. Upon leaving he tipped the servants a gold coin. The next day he came dressed as a king. The servants lavished him the with highest attention, thinking they would receive even more gold coins. He tipped them a penny saying: "This is for the service you gave me yesterday, the gold coin was for the service today." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 05:30:11 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: First show/t-shirt On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Brooks Martin wrote: > recollection of how they went or anything. The next night he played at the > Birchmere again and I was smart enough to bring a walkman and tape it. Many > of you have heard one of the songs from that night...Digital Spaceship. One the wild thing about this thread for me is a) how many of us were seeing rh in dc in the 80s/90s and consequently b) how many times i shared space with people i would later come to know (or 'know'). i was at the table with the guy who hollered out the 'request' for digital spaceship -- my very good friend mike. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 19:59:03 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: Re: drew's first robyn experience > My second Robyn experience came hot on the heels of > that one: > http://www.jh3.com/robyn/base/gig.asp?chubb=636 > > The only gig Robyn's ever done in Rochester, apparently. > The reviewer seemed to really love this show. I was really > unhappy with it [...] The reviewer was John B. Jones, erstwhile feglister who had to unsub due to real-life commitments. There's a tape of the gig if you ever want to give it another chance! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:29:04 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: friday's london gig Actually it's *this* Friday - I checked with David G - he said the website was wrong (he's going to correct it now). So, that's Friday 22nd of FEBRUARY Cheers Matt >From: "n'woj" >Reply-To: "n'woj" >To: "worst...list...EVER!" , fegmaniax-announce@smoe.org, robynhitchcock@yahoogroups.com >Subject: friday's london gig >Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:13:12 -0500 > >update from the museum: > > On Friday March 22 Robyn, along with Soft Boys Morris and Kimberley, > will be appearing in London at the V&A (Victoria & Albert) Museum > between 8 and 10 pm. > >the museum's website is . i don't see any >information about the performance there, but it sounds like a last minute >addition, so i'm not too surprised. the museum is on cromwell road in south >kensington, london. phone numbers are +44 (0)870 442 0808 and +44 (0)20 >7942 2000. if anyone calls, please post the details. > >woj - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:29:47 -0800 From: "Kenneth Johnson" Subject: Re: First show/t-shirt (like a grade school summer essay) My First Robyn show was 1989 Queen Elvis tour in Chicago at the Riviera (I think?? the one the disco ball on the ceiling...I get the names confused now.) I believe Poi Dog Pondering opened for Robyn plus Egyptians. There was plastic fish flying and some changing of instruments during the set and of course the phone booth prop. This concert served to start me on the path to being a lifelong fan. Prior to it, I had a friend who let me listen to his Globe of Frogs and QE tapes which, as young 15 year old, struck me as very clever and "out there". My first Robyn tee came much later, however, with the Mossy Duck, which never fails to get comments from random strangers everytime I wear. Most want to know "what is up with the duck". :) cheers! Kenneth ****** "When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it?" --Eleanor Roosevelt "I love America more than any other country in the world and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually." - -- James Baldwin "What does it matter to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?" -- Mahatma Gandhi _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:31:33 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: B = Bayard Stewart wrote: > I first met Bayard ...in Baltimore in 1998 -- or was it 97? Anyway, we ate at The Cultured >Pearl (yum! If you ever choose a restaurant to get engaged at, The >Cultured Pearl is a good choice. I know I haven't regretted it!) So you & Bayard are getting married..? Congratulations, I hope you'll be very happy together! 80) Cheers Matt >From: "Stewart C. Russell" >Reply-To: "Stewart C. Russell" >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: B = Bayard >Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:14:58 +0000 > >Abydos * wrote: > > > > I first met Bayard > >...in Baltimore in 1998 -- or was it 97? Anyway, we ate at The Cultured >Pearl (yum! If you ever choose a restaurant to get engaged at, The >Cultured Pearl is a good choice. I know I haven't regretted it!) then >saw #9 Line play at a local coffeehouse. > >I have a feeling I mortally offended Bayard's friend John England that >night. > >Bayard was impressed that Catherine lived in a very ornate chapel in a >far from ornate part of Baltimore. > > Stewart - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:36:18 -0800 (PST) From: FS Thomas Subject: Re: Bottom Line show - --- mary wrote: > According to the Bottom Line website, > they are taking email reservations for the > two April 12th Robyn shows: > So who's coming to town? You can bet your bottom dollar I'll be in town. - -f. Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:40:06 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: fegdream! So last night I dreamed that I was staying at my parents' house in Ann Arbor, and Drew came over one morning because he needed to take a shower or wash his hair or something (I can't remember the details). He was a stocky, red-faced guy wearing a wool cap and army surplus clothes. I was embarrassed because I had just gotten out of bed and was wearing sweatpants and my green Of Montreal shirt with the skull-headed bees on it, plus my inexplicably blonde hair was a rat's nest. We started talking about body piercing and Drew started taking these incredibly large piercing studs out of his bag. Then he transformed into Hutch Harris (Steve Malkmus lookalike/former Minders drummer) and I can't remember what happened next. Kay announces: >So what should I send to con the digerst into action, a political >screed, >favorit recipe, some -more- off-color jokes? Nope. A Baroque >Timeline on >german and english esoteric movements that culminated in >The Chapter of >Perfection which settled a few miles from my house in >1694. Kay, you rule. This is almost as cool as when Eddie sent that scholarly article on cheese to the list. n. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 09:07:18 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: First show/t-shirt FEGhistory: The first time I saw Robyn was March 16, 1989, in San Diego at the Sports Arena (the venue featured in 'Almost Famous'), opening for REM. I saw him again that same year on April 26, 1989 at a Tower Records in-store performance right next door to the above-mentioned Sports Arena. This was the time where, during a question-and-answer period, a young girl asked Robyn, "as a musician, how do you think we should live our lives?" She repeated the question again and again as Robyn insisted that he had no more insight into such matters than anyone else. He seemed to become a tad distraught at his inability to convince her that "musicians" shouldn't necessarily be looked upon as gurus. I think that was around the time he started taking requests, and played my shouted-out suggestion, "My Wife and My Dead Wife." There was also a guy there dressed as a priest. "Oh, a vicar!" The first Robyn shirt I ever purchased was one of those "Never Made Love to a Loaf of Bread" shirts from an on-campus performance in 1991 or 1992. I did get Robyn to sign it, although he bitched about it ("I think the signature distracts from the art.") Blah, blah, blah. Just sign the fucking thing. ;) While he was signing it, some other guy walked up and asked him to autograph his Bloom County book. I still have the shirt somewhere. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 21:10:45 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: early Ts and concerts >>Im going to be real obnoxious here. How about a thread of favorite >old >>t-shirts, with extra points if they still fit. good grief! Hm. 1) A Radio One (Otago U campus radio) T shirt from their second year of broadcasting, circa 1985. Still fits but very frayed. 2) A Chalkhills t-shirt from the mid 1990s. It's got the Uffington horse on it - 'nuff said 3) My Church Gold Afternoon Fix t-shirt 4) A lovely Julia set on a now very worn t sent to me by a friend (and ex-feg) 5) A white t-shirt with a picture of Sigmund Freud in magenta on the front, underneath which are the words "Pink Freud". This must date from about 1986 and the magenta has faded to mauve. and... drum roll please... 6) a purple singlet which was too big for me when I first got it, but which just fits at a pinch now if I don't need to breath. It is endorsed with the word "Rarotonga". I got it at said South Pacific island on the journey out to New Zealand in 1975. I was eleven. >> But I do enjoy bragging about my first show ever. Everyone else's first >> show was Air Supply or Journey at the State Fair, but my first show was the >> Pixies! ISTR mine was the Verlaines, about 1983, at the late lamented Oriental Tavern in Clyde Street. First by an overseas group was the Sweetwaters South one-day festival in Christchurch: Talking Heads, the Pretenders, and some godawful group called JoBoxers were among the top overseas acts. Talking Heads were awesome - it was the same tour as that filmed for Stop Making Sense, and they held back "Burning Down the House" until sunset, when they were provided with a natural fiery red light show courtesy of the sun. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:41:58 -0000 From: "mel" Subject: Re: Bottom Line show I should be at that show. any dc fegs heading up? i'd happily get tickets for folks if it means not having to involve amtrak in these plans. melissa ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 21:17:08 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: The Cat came back >This is probobly too easy and there may be several ways to do this( but >covers dont count)-- but can anybody better 3 degrees of seperation tween >Cat Stevens and Robyn? for a second there I thought I could. But it was Alun Davies who worked with Cat and Alan Davies with the Soft Boys. but... >according to allmusic.com, Dave Mattacks plays drums on CS _Back to >Earth_ and on Kimberley Rew's _Tunnel into Summer_, which also features >Robyn Hitchcock, so either 1 or 2 depending on whether Mattacks and >Robyn are on any of the same TIS trax. my ghu but that Mattacks guy is useful for this linking work! Not only has he worked with XTC, Fairport, Tull, and Martin Phillipps, but with Kimberley Rew and Cat Stevens too! I suspect it might also be possible to forge a link somehow through Gerry Conway. Any takers? >About Moslems and Sufis (referring back to the Cat Stevens debate): I >hear that the Sufis were a rebel sect of Islam who were persecuted and >punished, along the same lines as the Quakers in England many centuries >ago. So, if music is allowed in the Sufi sect then it doesn't mean that >Moslems are alright with it in general. It strikes me that Cat Stevens >originally joined a very strict sect of Islam, but has modified his life >a bit to include music in the last few years. as I said earlier (and it appears no-one noticed) some sects of Islam - including the one Cat Stevens belongs to - allow unaccompanied singing, but not singing with instruments. Thus the recent version of Peace Train he recorded a capella, and the albums he did during the 1980s after converting to Islam. Most branches of Islam allow singing with instruments. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 21:39:18 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Most secret and inviolate rose well... what to make of this??? >TIMELINE (Major Players and Zeitgeist.) > >Date Event > >1575 Birth of Boehme > >[...] > I'd like to help, but most of my research into that sort of thing in Germany is after the time most of the important events in your timeline have switched to the American colonies (as was). It might be worth you noting, though, that esoteric movements had fairly sizable political clout in Prussia during the 18th century, especially during the reign of Frederick the Great. It's also worth noting that Germany was involved in some pretty full-on wars during much of the time you list, which would certainly have added to the zeitgeist! James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:19:00 -0800 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: early Ts and concerts Oh, here's one for bunus points. Siouxsie and the Banshees t-shirt from 1986. I bought it new, and it actually still fits me, to which the NY Fegs can attest. Believe it or not, I think I have gotten more comments on that shirt than any other I own. People seem to get very excited. No one all of a sudden rubbing up and down on my leg, but excited nontheless. :) #2 I guess would be the Crass one. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:30:17 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: I tabbed Nick Drake Well, *I* didn't do it; somebody else did. A best guess on all the whacked tunings that Nick Drake used: http://shred.guitar.net/OLGA/d/drake_nick/tunings.txt?str=drake_nick&page=3 - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:40:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Bottom Line show Hey, that's my Birthday! So there's a greater than average chance that this feg is NY bound. Cheers, Jon On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 09:46:39 -0500, mary wrote : > According to the Bottom Line website, > they are taking email reservations for the > two April 12th Robyn shows: > > FRI > APR 12 ROBYN HITCHCOCK > E-mail Reservations are being accepted for this performance > Doors Open 6PM for 7:30 Show/10PM for 10:30 Show > All Seats > $20.00 > > http://www.bottomlinecabaret.com/ > > Most likely tickets are now on sale at > the venue as well. > > So who's coming to town? > > s.mary > > np - Mercury Rev "All is Dream" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:40:58 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Bottom Line show Hey, that's my Birthday! So there's a greater than average chance that this feg is NY bound. Cheers, Jon On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 09:46:39 -0500, mary wrote : > According to the Bottom Line website, > they are taking email reservations for the > two April 12th Robyn shows: > > FRI > APR 12 ROBYN HITCHCOCK > E-mail Reservations are being accepted for this performance > Doors Open 6PM for 7:30 Show/10PM for 10:30 Show > All Seats > $20.00 > > http://www.bottomlinecabaret.com/ > > Most likely tickets are now on sale at > the venue as well. > > So who's coming to town? > > s.mary > > np - Mercury Rev "All is Dream" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:48:03 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: early Ts and concerts >>Im going to be real obnoxious here. How about a thread of favorite >old >>t-shirts, with extra points if they still fit. the oldest t-shirt that i still wear would be from seeing peter gabriel's 'so' tour back in 1987. i think i still have the t-shirt from my first concert, tears for fears in 1985; but it would be under a pile of clothes in the recesses of my closet. trying to determine just when it was that i first saw robyn. it was the 'queen elvis' tour in the fall of 1989. northampton, massachusetts at pearle street. haven't been able to find the exact date and it's not listed on the asking tree. at that gig i got a groovy, compliment-inducing 'one long pair of eyes' t that has sadly disappeared. i saw r.e.m. earlier that year and was *quite* disappointed that it was the indigo gals instead of robyn opening. the first time i met bayard was at the soft boys gig in boston last year. >> Muswell Hillbillies (the first album after Lola, except possibly for the >> negligible Percy soundtrack) started the long slow downward spiral. are you suggesting that 'muswell hillbillies' isn't any good. if that is the case, i beg to differ. >Tangential Robyn content: as most of us know, the source for the movie >_Percy_ was a novel by none other than...Robyn's dad. from what i've heard, the consensus is movie=bad, soundtrack=ok, book=good. ken "now i'm the manic street preachers" the kenster np nuggets II ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:01:46 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: early Ts and concerts At 03:48 PM 2/19/2002 -0500, Ken Ostrander wrote: >>Tangential Robyn content: as most of us know, the source for the movie >>_Percy_ was a novel by none other than...Robyn's dad. > >from what i've heard, the consensus is movie=bad, soundtrack=ok, book=good. Stop me before I start talking about "God's Children" and unwittingly plagiarize John Mendelsohn's KINKS KRONIKLES liner notes again. (I'm still disturbed that I did that. I won't take the Stephen Ambrose "volume, volume, volume" excuse either -- yeah, I love those liner notes and they were essential in contextualizing my early impressions of Kinks music, but I'm always willing to give the "like John Mendelsohn says in his liner notes for THE KINKS KRONIKLES" shout-out, so I still don't know why that time I didn't.) Oh, and I think the PERCY soundtrack is underrated -- it's a Kinks Kurio, to be sure, but it's a curio with several first-rate songs. I think "God's Children," "The Way Love Used To Be," "Animals in the Zoo," "Willesden Green," and the gorgeous "Moments" are right up there with anything else the Kinks did in this greatest phase of their career. And that's a pretty high percentage of good-to-great songs for a second-division effort! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:18:35 -0800 From: barbara soutar Subject: thanks to Quail, James and Abydos Hi, Got to mention the first concert I attended since that seems to be a subject here. It was David Clayton Thomas (before he was a member of Blood, Sweat and Tears, if anyone remembers them) when I was about 12. He was playing with a backup band called The Shays. In Toronto, at a swanky event that my parents had dragged me to... I don't suppose that they expected to hear funky music that night but I enjoyed it! Bluesy voice, raunchy lyrics, pretty good stuff then. Thanks to Quail for the info on Sufis... I gather you know what you're talking about on this subject. Whirling like a dervish sounds like fun to me... and I had heard of Rumi before but will look up the poem you mention. Is it true that Sufi romantic poetry was a veiled way of offering passionate devotion to God? Or was it vice-versa? Wondered about that. Here is a good site about him with poetry: http://www.rumionfire.com/ And to Abydos... very interesting chronology there, could be a book or article there. I think you're interested in the esoteric and I see the beginning of Quakerism in America in there among all the strange doings. I too am interested in oddball history. I've looked into the origins of the New Age movement and found it rooted in the Theosophical Society in 1890's Victorian England. With much earlier beginnings in India of course... but no one was into advertising trends like this until the modern age of publishing and promoting. The New Age was supposed to start at the turn of the century (1900) with the long-expected death of Queen Victoria. I believe Krishnamurti was chosen as the new World Teacher. Makes interesting reading. Thanks to James for the background info on Cat Stevens conversion, that explains a lot. Barbara ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #61 *******************************