From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #58 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, February 16 2002 Volume 11 : Number 058 Today's Subjects: ----------------- connect the dots... [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] another reap [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: my first robyn show/shirt/fegs [Thats *Mr Feg* to you sonny ] Re: my first robyn show/shirt/fegs ["Roberta Cowan" ] Oh shoot, one more thing ["Roberta Cowan" ] Re: my first robyn show/shirt/fegs [Brian ] Re: B = Bayard (fwd) [dmw ] Re: my first robyn shirt ["Russ Reynolds" ] Robyn DVDs [Chris Franz ] Re: mmm, i wish i could sing like that [Terrence Marks ] Canadiana & last words on Cat Stevens [barbara soutar wrote: >From: The Great Quail > >>I for one have been getting into a lot of music lately from Muslim [...] and then added: >On an unconnected note: I have just begun reading Ulyssess... well, I'm sure fegspotters can spot the obvious connection here... James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 18:09:10 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: another reap Kevin Smith (before you ask, one of NZ's top actors, and fairly well known in the US, too) James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 01:52:53 -0800 From: Thats *Mr Feg* to you sonny Subject: Re: my first robyn show/shirt/fegs Sheesh, Roberta - look what it takes to lure me out of lurkdom... I haven't posted in about a year and these days I get to read about every tenth digest, so you can tell there's a certain inertia at work here. You guys nearly did it with those damned Googlewhacks (I scored on my very first attempt: "dogpile wonderweb". Woo Hoo!). James *nearly* did it with a reference to Mornington Crescent (James: you forgot that diagonal moves are reversed when green is placed downwards. Straight rules, naturally.). And seeing the likes of Eddie and Mike Runion back in the game - well my fingers were practically on the keys... But now you offer me a challenge I know I can't lose. That's it. I can't resist. I first saw Robyn back in 1976 at Claire College Folk Club in Cambridge which was held in the cellars under the college. As was usual in folk clubs, there was a guest "star" (i.e. a paid professional) who'd play a couple of sets, and before each set was "open mic" for anyone who had the balls to go up and perform. All you had to do was to put your name on a list and wait your turn. ...unless your name was Robyn Hitchcock! Even then Robyn had incredible charisma - he'd march into the club unannounced and simply take the stage. Unchallenged. This was in his pre-blink days - his technique was to stare *unblinking* at some point on the distant horizon beyond the back wall of the room (In retrospect, probably a just way to overcome nerves, but very impressive at the time). I saw him many times after that, both there and in other venues - solo and with various others - including the formation and eventual demise of the Soft Boys. I was convinced he would be a big star one day. I still think so. ;-) Sadly, I have no T shirts from that time - not that they'd fit me now anyway! My first Feg meeting was much later. The Great American Music Hall in San Francisco - according to the Asking Tree: September 1995. I'd only just discovered the list, and rediscovered Robyn, and looking around the room I wondered if any of these folks were the people who's words of wit and wisdom I'd just been reading. So I got talking to the person next to me and he turned out to be none other than our very own John Partridge, ace Robyn collector and legendary eBay-er. Cool! Next time Robyn played SF, I made a reservation in the name of "Mr. Feg" at the local Chevy's restaurant, and the rest is history. :) So there you have it. Top that Mike Godwin! ;-) ~N BTW If any of you who've joined the list recently want to see what some of these strange creatures (woj, eddie, tom, bayard, the great quail... etc), actually *look* like. And what they get up to in their spare time. *Some* of the answers may be found by following the cones here: http://www.njaz.com/fegfotos The pictures are up to date including the last Soft Boys tour, though I still need to link the new ones to the "list 'o fegs". > First saw Robyn & the Egyptians 11/9/85 at the F Street 9:30 Club. > [....] > Cheers-- > Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:33:10 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: Cat Stevens and t-shirts Melissa asked about what age group I'm thinking of when I think of Cat Stevens fans. I would think that most would be 40+. Although there are a lot of retro fegs (meaning "people who discovered Robyn-associated material a good while after it was released"), most fans of bands that I know tend to have heard the material of the object of adoration when it was released or was popular. I do not put aficianados of classical and jazz in this category. But since I am so often wrong, this might just be another misconception that I harbor. And Tom Clark wrote: "I have a grey shirt screened with the cover of BSDR that I bought at Newbury Comics in Burlington, MA sometime in 1986. I doesn't fit anymore, but I'll never get rid of it." Two things, Tom. First of all, YOU HAVE A KID NOW!! My kids wear all my old Kinks and Smiths shirts. Your shirt may come out of the drawer yet. And a query. Was the Newbury Comics in Burlington really open already in 1986? God, I still refer to it as one of the new Newbury Comics (BTW, there is one right near the Alewife T station now - very handy). Jill, praying for Robyn to fill in those holes in the east coast schedule ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:37:10 -0500 From: "Roberta Cowan" Subject: Re: my first robyn show/shirt/fegs Yikes, Mr. Feg! Amazing story...dunno if I can lure you out again to answer a question but I'm wondering what the material was that RH was playing at that point. Covers, original material or even early versions of songs he recorded later? I know it was a long time ago but you've heard the saying "I remember everything as if it happened years ago..."? The older a fart I become (that 2nd Egyptians show I saw was 2 days after my 30th b'day) the better I understand that one. 8-) [I also still have a fondness for many of those early Cat Stevens albums though I gave him up for quite awhile when my mother hijacked the records and played them to death.] One thing I noticed, and I'm not sure what its significance is, is that nearly all of the reminiscences related over the past few days occurred in the D.C. --> Baltimore --> Philadelphia --> OK, NYC too region. Robyn would have played many shows during those years--is there anyone out there who saw Robyn play in the mid to late 80's in other cities? Maybe the people who saw those shows (assuming they were attended by more than a handful of folks) aren't associated with fegdom any longer? Or maybe there were other factors that kept his name active in this area (more radio airplay/promotional appearances) and therefore kept the interest level up? Just an idle thought for a Saturday morning... Roberta btw I saw this article and thought of many of you-- http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0%2C2125%2C50441%2C00.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:46:47 -0500 From: "Roberta Cowan" Subject: Oh shoot, one more thing Whatever did happen to Sandra and Trudi anyway? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 10:49:32 -0500 From: Brian Subject: Re: my first robyn show/shirt/fegs At Saturday, 16 February 2002, "Roberta Cowan" wrote: >Yikes, Mr. Feg! Amazing story...dunno if I can lure you out again to answer a >question but I'm wondering what the material was that RH was playing at that >point. Covers, original material or even early versions of songs he recorded >later? Ditto! Nuppy's 1st RH experience: June 14th 1989 in Lakewood (Cleveland, OH) w/ the Egyptians. Before the show Andy signed the shirt I was wearing. Songs I remember them playing: 1. The Ruling Class 2. Freeze 3. Madonna Of The Wasps 4. Acid Bird 5. I'm Only You 6. Uncorrected Personality Traits 7. Listening to the Higsons 8. Bass Apparel Robyn: Black pants. A very multi-colorful shirt. A thoth watch on his right hand. Andy: Sported a fretless bass Morris: Sunglasses. After the show Robyn spun me around in a circle and decorated my shirt with a green marker before signing it. I still have the shirt. Morris was upset because RH didn't leave him much room to sign the shirt. Ah, memory lane. Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 14:21:21 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: B = Bayard (fwd) - ------------------------------------------------- Mayo-Wells Media Workshop dmw@ http://www.mwmw.com mwmw.com Web Development * Multimedia Consulting * Hosting - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:02:49 -0500 (EST) From: dmw To: ecto@smoe.org Subject: Re: B = Bayard On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Abydos * wrote: > As usual, I was in a weird mental place, preoccupied and Im afraid, less > than considerate. Which means--I believe it was -my- front porch upon which > Bayard slept. Not only that, but I can't rememeber if I ever apologized for > it. If I didn't, this is it. If it helps any,it was a tiny rowhouse with no > extra bed inside. And I now live in a bigger house, with extra beds if > needed. oh pshaw! you were plenty courteous as i recall. and if memory serves B. and I drove back to dc around 3am with an entertaining failure to promptly find my vehicle. i don't recall proch sleeping. i have a bunch of photos from some feghoot or other, but i can't figure out where they are from here. i'll post a link when i get home. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:16:15 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: my first robyn shirt >> Who has the oldest Robyn shirt?? > > I have a grey shirt screened with the cover of BSDR that I bought at Newbury > Comics in Burlington, MA sometime in 1986. I doesn't fit anymore, but I'll > never get rid of it. I have this same shirt. Bought it at Vinyl Solution records in San Mateo. Mine doesn't fit me any more either. Or should I say I don't fit it any more (I have a hunch that's the case with you too, mr. Clark) I think the first one I bought at a show was a Chinese Bones one. Also previously bought a Loaf of Bread and a Don't Call Me Reg. I still Have 'em all. - -rcr "Music is everybody's possession. It's only publishers who think that people own it." -- John Lennon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 13:25:56 -0800 From: Chris Franz Subject: Robyn DVDs Brian Hoare: >Having gone and bought myself a dvd player last month I thought that I'd try >to hunt down a copy of storefront hitchcock. I am in the UK (R2 ) but my >machine is chipped for multiregion use (or so mr shopman said - and it has >played an R1 copy of Pi). I cannot find an R2 copy of SFH listed anywhere. >Is there an R2 version? Can the R1 one be gotten from a UK retailer? If I go >for R1 sold from a US shop (ideally online ordering) is there a better >option than Amazon.com? ISTR this was discussed before but I didn't pay any >attention. To answer your first question (well, not really), I don't know if there's an R2 version of Storefront Hitchcock. But if you're looking to get the region 1 version, I'd suggest you don't bother. The only R1 version I'm aware of is pan & scan, which means you miss a lot. Jonathan Demme made good use of the big screen: the characters on the street behind Robyn were quite spread out, and some of that is lost; there tended to be a lot of space between Robyn, Deni, Tim, and the various props, so cropping the image makes it uncomfortable; even close-ups of Robyn's guitar become cramped. The sound quality on the disc is excellent, and of course the movie is great, but Demme's wonderful cinematography is butchered. Wait until they do the disc right. In any case, if you're still looking for a retailer of the R1 version, thanks to exchange rates you might want to check a Canadian company like http://www.absound.ca or http://www.videoflicks.com . - - Chris ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 18:24:55 -0500 From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: mmm, i wish i could sing like that anansi wrote: > > Hey--Reed is the only singer who writes songs in my range! All 9 notes > > of > > it;-) > > > > He's perfect proof of my pet contention that phrasing, mood and tude are > > what make a singer, not just hitting notes. > > I do agree with you, actually -- there are plenty of singers (including > Reed) whom I love despite their technically lousy voices, and plenty of > technically adept singers who leave me cold. Robyn's voice is actually not all > that, and sometimes it gets on my nerves, but again, it's not really about the > "quality." Dunno. I, for one, just can't get into VU themselves. I like a few Velvet cover songs, though. Big Star's "Femme Fatale" struck me as hauntingly beautiful, partially because of Alex Chilton's falsetto/high tenor. The original seemed ok, but didn't hook me the way the cover did. Likewise, I find the Soft Boys covers of VU, like Run Run Run, more interesting than the originals. - -- Terrence Marks http://www.unlikeminerva.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 18:51:12 -0500 From: Brian Subject: Re: mmm, i wish i could sing like that >I find the Soft Boys covers of VU, like Run Run Run, >more interesting than the originals. > >-- >Terrence Marks >http://www.unlikeminerva.com When did the Soft Boys cover Run Run Run? I'd like to hear that one. Nuppster ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 19:33:01 -0800 From: barbara soutar Subject: Canadiana & last words on Cat Stevens Don't forget that the Simpsons is all about Canada this week! Big news here. I agree with whoever said this was the best show on TV, I believe it was a few months ago on this list. Read it back when I was a lurker. A few final words from me about Cat Stevens... I knew it would be controversial to say he'd joined a religion that forbids music, but I wanted to hear what people had to say about it. It seems like it's an exaggeration to say that music is forbidden in the Moslem religion... maybe it's true that as an overenthusiastic convert Cat just cut out the musical part of his life. Or maybe he was all out of lyrics and just wanted to retire for a while. He sure put out a lot of albums in the time he was popular. I remember being charmed by the song "Matthew and Son" when I heard it on the radio when I was about 13. Barbara ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #58 *******************************