From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #36 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, January 31 2002 Volume 11 : Number 036 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Is Tove Janssen still alive? [Jill Brand ] The Truth is Stranger than Fiction--if its True ["Redtailed Hawk" ] Dead or Alive (0% "You Spin Me Round") ["Poole, R. Edward" ] Re: Pippi Longstocking and those PANTS [bayard ] A new book for me & Vince & Eb [The Great Quail ] My new hobby: Googlewhacking ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: My new hobby: Googlewhacking [glen uber ] Damn! [glen uber ] Re: Doin' the Googlewhack [Capuchin ] reap [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Searching for Purple Snorklewackers... ["Mike Wells" ] Re: Re(2): Doin' the Googlewhack [Christopher Gross ] Re: A new book for me & Vince & Eb ["Randy R." ] Radio Paradise [Tom Clark ] Re: reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] robyn in the states in april ["n'woj" ] RE: Re(2): Doin' the Googlewhack ["Poole, R. Edward" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 10:24:48 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: Is Tove Janssen still alive? I think that she is. I didn't discover the Moomintroll books until a Finnish student gave me Finn Family Moomintroll right after my son Curt was born (almost 13 years ago). I thought, "Oh, how nice" and stuck it on a shelf. We started reading it to him when he was about 5, and fell in love with the whole series. To top it off, Curt had a Finnish friend in kindergarten whose mother had all kinds of Moomintroll paraphernalia from Finnland (paper plates, napkins, comic books). It was all the rage. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:32:14 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: The Truth is Stranger than Fiction--if its True A friend of mine at work found this site thru a porn newsletter. www.coincidencedesign.com Is it for real? I don't have a spare $80,000 to find out( and besides I'm a goil.) Or is it a grand parody? Scam? Notice how well the rhetoric is designed to appeal to boys(and even goils) raised on spy stories. I love the bit bout the hard-drives immediatly self-destructing. I can understand the mechanics of such, its motive I have a hard time understanding. Are females really -that- hard to approuch? - --------------------------------------- Drew While I admit the second side of Respect(minus "Wafflehead") is a killer, don't forget "Railway Shoes" which is on the first side along with AOL and MI. - ------------------------------------ And Hey--Im not the only shirt fan, or pants fan on this list! Now what if he wore the green pants with the purple shirt? Wahoo! I garboled my last post, writing "latter" when I meant "former." Doh. What I meant to convey is that I think Martin Carthy has had a greater influence on Robyn's guitar playing than Richard Thompson. Kay _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:01:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Is Tove Janssen still alive? On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Jill Brand wrote: > I think that she is. I didn't discover the Moomintroll books until a > Finnish student gave me Finn Family Moomintroll right after my son Curt > was born (almost 13 years ago). I thought, "Oh, how nice" and stuck it on > a shelf. We started reading it to him when he was about 5, and fell in > love with the whole series. To top it off, Curt had a Finnish friend in > kindergarten whose mother had all kinds of Moomintroll paraphernalia from > Finnland (paper plates, napkins, comic books). It was all the rage. I regret to inform you that Tove Jansson died in 2001. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:51:01 -0500 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: Dead or Alive (0% "You Spin Me Round") Although they offer no help with Tove Jansson -- for which we have Godwin, of course -- I have found this site useful in making such determinations (not to mention for resolving arguments -- for the record, neither Siegfried nor Roy is dead. One of their tigers died a couple years back & they have since broken up -- at least professionally -- but they are both walking the earth, thank you very much). http://www.dead-or-alive.org/dead.nsf/ The site also includes fun quizzes (on which I score miserably). ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:06:55 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: virus etc. Recently we (at home) were hit hard by a virus, Win32.Magistr.24876, so sorry if any of you had to delete weird emails from me. Stupid thing 1) our McAfee was turned off recently by Cox Cable technicians (who were actually stupid things 1a and 1b) who forgot to turn it back on & we didn't notice. Stupid thing 2) clicking the attatchment. Well, the social engineering of the virus was pretty good: it takes text from anything you've sent as an attachment & uses random bits of that for the subject line & message. So you get a slightly garbled msg. about stuff the person has written about before & think "this is confusing but maybe the attachment will clear things up" and it does. - --- On a brighter note I picked up Hammers & Anvils by Graeme Downes & love it. It doesn't hurt that the title song sounds much like a more morose version of Procol Harum's The Devil Came from Kansas, and after my swing band tenure "Cole Porter" sounds good too. Tons of variety, noise & melody. Weird, for such a small place so much NZ pop evokes wide open spaces (also thinking of the Chills' "I SOar"). Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 12:30:17 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: Re: Pippi Longstocking and those PANTS On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Natalie Jane wrote: > >Subject: reap > > > >Astrid Lindgren, author of the Pippi Longstocking books. > > Oh man! I'm bummed. Actually, I had no idea she was still alive. Pippi > Longstocking was my first positive female role model who was your first negative one? >>thank you ed. so many good concert reviews lack this crucial information. does anyone really keep track of these things? if not, it may become a project for me to learn a little about using zope if and when i can get the records for leppo.org updated. network solutions stinks. << ... the database has a "shirt" field, but alas, it is mostly un-used. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:54:05 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: A new book for me & Vince & Eb Bowman Durrell S. "'Let Them All Make Their Own Music': Individualism, Rush, and the Progressive/ Hard Rock Alloy, 1976-7." Progressive Rock Reconsidered. Ed. Kevin Holm-Hudson. New York: Routledge, 2001. 183-218. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 13:54:42 -0800 (PST) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: My new hobby: Googlewhacking "Named after the popular Google search engine, Googlewhacks, and the game of finding them (or Googlewhacking), are the latest pursuit of legions of bored and increasingly obsessed Web surfers searching for the next big thing. The game starts by typing two words into Google's search bar, with the goal of obtaining a single result. The ultimate goal of a Googlewhacker: seeing the words "Results 1-1 of 1" appear in the upper right-hand corner of the screen." I've got two so far: lucite pudenda infundibulum flywheel Must find more! This sounds like a good way to generate band names, too. Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:01:43 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: The Truth is Stranger than Fiction--if its True On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Redtailed Hawk wrote: > A friend of mine at work found this site thru a porn newsletter. > www.coincidencedesign.com > Is it for real? I don't have a spare $80,000 to find out( and besides I'm a > goil.) Or is it a grand parody? Scam? Notice how well the rhetoric is > designed to appeal to boys(and even goils) raised on spy stories. > I love the bit bout the hard-drives immediatly self-destructing. > > I can understand the mechanics of such, its motive I have a hard time > understanding. > Are females really -that- hard to approuch? This is for guys that don't know that women are people. ...like, forgive me, Dave Sim (there's that bit in one of his essays where he says something like, "this was so enlightening... it was the first time I'd ever spoken to a woman who wasn't a relative without trying to get into their pants"). I'm sure the business is for real. I'm sure they'll probably get a few clients. I'm just as sure that none of them will be any happier afterward than they were before except for the possible power of suggestion that this is "the one". And, of course, what happens when the woman finds out that she was stalked and a trap was laid like some kind of animal? There are lots of rich chauvanist dudes in this world and, by the way this world works, there will continue to be. ...and as I wrote in another email this morning, the lower your morals and weaker your ethics, the more opportunities you see. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:00:54 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Polly on the Shore / Re: Steeleye Span Michael R Godwin wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > http://wwwmcc.murdoch.edu.au/~gillard/watersons/pollyshore.html > > which match the lyrics at (give or take a syllable/word): > > http://www.bitmine.net/~fegmaniax/lyrics/song.cgi?pots > > so, POTS is a traditional song that has been recorded by Martin > Carthy > > & Dave Swarbrick on _Prince Heathen_ in 1969; the FC POTS is also a > > traditional song (arranged by Dave Pegg), if my memory of what the > > notes to Meet Me on the Ledge say (i'm at worked, and bored to > > death, in case you couldn't tell), and i would guess it's the same > > song (don't have them with me to check, obviously. > > Further confusion from another website at: > http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/sandy.denny/songs/pollyontheshore.html > which asserts: > "[Music Dave Swarbrick, Lyrics Dave Swarbrick / Trevor Lucas] > "Originally from the album Nine, with Jerry Donahue, Trevor Lucas > (vocals), Dave Mattacks, Dave Pegg and Dave Swarbrick, this track > was re-released on the double CD compilation Meet On The Ledge: The > Classic Years 1967-1975. A live version from Cropredy 1982 was > released on the cassette A.T. 2.>". on MOTL, it's listed as Music: Dave Pegg; Lyrics: Traditional/Dave Swarbrick/Trevor Lucas, so it's even more discombobulated. > Lyrics appear to be the same as those on the Watersons website, where > it is suggested that Martin Carthy learned it from Pop Maynard, > whoever he may be. But it looks as if Carthy considered it to be a > folk song, while Swarbrick, Lucas and Hitchcock all thought they > might as well claim the authors' royalties. Maybe this is one of > those instances where a person rewriting one or two words has somehow > written a "new" song within the meaning of the act. If I were Anon, > I'd sue. well, you can "publish" an arrangement of traditional songs, right? but you're right; anon always gets fucked in the end. ===== "This week, the White House says President Bush meant no disrespect when he referred to the Pakistani people as 'Pakis.' But just to be on the safe side, White House staffers have cancelled his trip to Nigeria" - Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update" . Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:19:44 -0500 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: Doin' the Googlewhack a googlewhacking site, http://www.unblinking.com/heh/googlewhack.htm was referenced on memepool a couple of days ago, so it's spreading fast. I agree, it is a fun exercise. to spice up the challenge, try to: (1) as Gene says, get some combos with band name possibilities (2) keep score -- one scoring method is to determine the incidence of each word individually, then multiply those together. The more common the individual words, the higher the googlewhack score. I scored around 508,000,000 for "marionettes sphygmomanometer" (as in, "what do you buy Pinocchio for his birthday, if you've noticed he's put on a few too many rings around the mid section?") i'm sure the clever folks on this list will beat that in minutes -- but, note that I googlewhacked on my 4th try (not bad, IMNSHO) ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:25:59 -0800 From: glen uber Subject: Re: My new hobby: Googlewhacking Eugene Hopstetter, Jr. earnestly scribbled: >lucite pudenda I must say, I must add Lucite Pudenda to my list of "Band Names that Have Yet To Be Used". - -- Cheers! - -g- - ------------------ Glen Uber -+- uberg (at) sonic dot net ------------------ "Fermentation and civilization are inseperable." - --John Ciardi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:30:56 -0800 From: glen uber Subject: Damn! Eugene Hopstetter, Jr. earnestly scribbled: >This sounds like a good way to generate band names, too. Sorry, I didn't see this the first time around. I guess you had the same thought I did. - -- Cheers! - -g- - ------------------ Glen Uber -+- uberg (at) sonic dot net ------------------ "Fermentation and civilization are inseperable." - --John Ciardi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:32:06 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Doin' the Googlewhack On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Poole, R. Edward wrote: > a googlewhacking site, http://www.unblinking.com/heh/googlewhack.htm was > referenced on memepool a couple of days ago, so it's spreading fast. I > agree, it is a fun exercise. > > to spice up the challenge, try to: > (1) as Gene says, get some combos with band name possibilities > > (2) keep score -- one scoring method is to determine the incidence of each > word individually, then multiply those together. > > i'm sure the clever folks on this list will beat that in minutes -- but, > note that I googlewhacked on my 4th try (not bad, IMNSHO) I got one on my fourth try (and I was AMAZED to get 35 hits for "doorknob Krakatoa"). My hit was "slithy grok". 6210 x 83800 = 520,398,000 Not bad, I'd guess. But my very next try was "grok micorsoft" 83800 x 9530 = 798,614,000 That's a fifty percent improvement. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:32:36 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: reap Stratford Johns, 77 James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:34:33 -0600 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Searching for Purple Snorklewackers... ...brought up this http://wso.williams.edu/orgs/trivia/matata/supers/colors.html which is a rather pleasurable take on ye olde trivia quiz. Michael "and there's even a bit of Cthulhu for Quail" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 14:44:03 -0800 From: glen uber Subject: Re(2): Doin' the Googlewhack Capuchin earnestly scribbled: >I got one on my fourth try (and I was AMAZED to get 35 hits for "doorknob >Krakatoa"). It took me six and I finally got one with 'sesquipedalian ogee'. - -- Cheers! - -g- - ------------------ Glen Uber -+- uberg (at) sonic dot net ------------------ "You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer." - --Frank Zappa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:59:49 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Re(2): Doin' the Googlewhack My first: Hyrax turnstile! It took me a couple of dozen tries, but that's mainly because I was trying to get one with "quail" in it.... So what's that site where you can figure out your score? And today is Gene Hackman's birthday. - --Chris np: Amalia Rodrigues, "Uma Casa Portuguesa" ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:12:01 -0800 From: glen uber Subject: Re: Doin' the Googlewhack Poole, R. Edward earnestly scribbled: >a googlewhacking site, http://www.unblinking.com/heh/googlewhack.htm was >referenced on memepool a couple of days ago, so it's spreading fast. I >agree, it is a fun exercise. I came across the following rule while reading through the above site: 3. Google shows you an excerpt of the page you whacked. Look at that text. If it's merely a list of words, No Whack For You! I checked out the page that came up as my result. Turns out it was just a long list of hundreds of odd words. Therefore, sesquipedalian ogee doesn't count. - -- Cheers! - -g- - ------------------ Glen Uber -+- uberg (at) sonic dot net ------------------ "You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer." - --Frank Zappa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:33:14 -0800 From: "Randy R." Subject: Re: A new book for me & Vince & Eb From: The Great Quail > Bowman Durrell S. "'Let Them All Make Their Own > Music': Individualism, Rush, and the Progressive/ > Hard Rock Alloy, 1976-7." Progressive Rock > Reconsidered. Ed. Kevin Holm-Hudson. New York: > Routledge, 2001. 183-218. Hmmmmm, doesn't sound too bad. I have a non-recommendation. "Merely Players", by Robert Tellaria. It's just been released and let me tell you, Robert is an idiot. He spells worse than I do!!! For example, the book sports the words "Mereley Players". Heh. He's been on alt.music.rush for years and is just basically, ummmm, an idiot. Sorry for my lack of a better word : ) It's hard to sell a book with an obvious typo on the cover. Vince (and the new Rush has a working title ---"Humans") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 15:26:27 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Radio Paradise http://www.radioparadise.com/ Plays "Intelligent Eclectic Rock", like right now they're playing "Madonna of the Wasps" by someone or other. This morning I heard "Sinister But She Was Happy" Cool! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 11:04:44 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: reap James Dignan wrote: > > Stratford Johns, 77 no more Charlie Barlow ;-( ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 10:14:16 -0500 From: "n'woj" Subject: robyn in the states in april from the auditorium : Robyn US dates, April, 2002! April 8: Atlanta, Smith's Old Barn April 10: New York City, the Bottom Line April 16: Chicago, Park West April 21: Seattle, The Crocodile [Cafe] April 23: San Francisco, Great American Music Hall TBA: West Hollywood, Cafe Largo woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 10:36:55 -0500 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: RE: Re(2): Doin' the Googlewhack Chris wondered: >So what's that site where you can figure out your score? All you gotta do is run each word individually on Google, to find its incidence alone. Running your whack terms: Hyrax (8090) X turnstile (51,900) = 419,871,000. In other words, just about what I got (508,000,000), but neither of us are in Jeme's league. Of course, it would be a first if were in the same league as Jeme. ;-) - -ed ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #36 *******************************