From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #30 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, January 24 2002 Volume 11 : Number 030 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Little Willie John ["da9ve stovall" ] owls and elephants ["Natalie Jane" ] RE: Little Willie John [glen uber ] [none] ["Redtailed Hawk" ] RE: London calling-- as eagles scrap bears for wood fuel ["Jason R. Thorn] Re: ley lines and dope [grutness@surf4nix.com] An Ode To Librarians Everywhere! ["madcowan" ] Re: CDR APPLE (again) [Tom Clark ] Re: ley lines and dope [scodd ] Peggy Lee, I Go to Sleep, and caster sugar [Jill Brand ] caster sugar ["Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" ] Re: Peggy Lee, I Go to Sleep, and caster sugar [steve ] Re: caster sugar ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: ley lines and dope ["matt sewell" ] Re: Peggy Lee, I Go to Sleep, and caster sugar ["matt sewell" ] Fwd: Re: Peggy Lee, I Go to Sleep, and caster sugar ["matt sewell" ] Re: Alfred the Cake [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Alfred the White [Eleanore Adams ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:30:22 -0800 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: RE: Little Willie John >- - Mike "rolling English drunkard" Godwin > >PS I hadn't realised that 'Fever' was by Little Willie >John. He also wrote Fleetwood Mac's first near-hit 'I need >your love so bad', but I don't know anything else about >him. Is he in the sort of Amos Milburn bracket? I don't know anything about Amos Milburn, but if his bracket is that which had a few chart hits (including "Fever" two years before Peggy Lee made it famous), spent a deal of time in jail on manslaughter charges, and died (in the Washington State Pen) at age 30, then, yeah, LWJ would have been in that bracket. http://www.djangomusic.com/artist_music.asp?pid=P++++24464 His hits have been repackaged plenty of times, and it's worth hearing his original "Fever" - my favorite version, though that's not to say I have anything against PL's version, or even Elvis Presley's. Good song. da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:33:54 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: owls and elephants >I first came across ley lines in (a) Alan Garner's 'The moon of >Gomrath' Alan Garner is weird. I have a book of his called "The Owl Service" (please pay attention, Viv) that's based on the Welsh myth of Bloduwedd,* a girl made from flowers who gets turned into an owl. It's a very eerie, intense book with a strong undercurrent of sexual tension. I think if I had read it as a kid, it would have really freaked me out. Actually, it sort of freaked me out anyway. Hooray for Philip Pullman!!! "The Amber Spyglass" isn't my favorite in the trilogy - I liked the first one the best. "Spyglass" is a bit of a hodgepodge as Pullman struggles to tie all his loose ends together. But it's still a hell of a story, even if the climax is slightly anti-climactic. I especially liked the sentient elephants who travel around on wheels. I'm still shocked that the fundies aren't going after Pullman for the trilogy's blatant anti-Christianity stance, but I guess they're too busy accusing Harry Potter of supporting witchcraft. n. *Try saying that three times fast, pronounced the Welsh way: "dd" = soft "th" _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:44:22 -0800 From: glen uber Subject: RE: Little Willie John >> Is he in the sort of Amos Milburn bracket? If I recall correctly, the only connection they have is that both have influenced lyrics of a couple popular tunes: Little Willie John was mentioned in Robbie Robertson's "Somewhere Down The Crazy River" and a boast made by Amos Milburn was the inspiration for the "You make a dead man cum" line in "Start Me Up". - -- Cheers! - -g- - ------------------ Glen Uber -+- uberg (at) sonic dot net ------------------ "Fermentation and civilization are inseperable." - --John Ciardi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:23:04 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: [none] Godwinning: You live up to your name, the Lord is pleased. Thanks for the Garner interview, I found it fascinating on several ways, all relevent. One reason Ive liked Garner's Arthurian books is that they're not straight Arthurian,(which may be the most felicious way to handle the Matter at this point.) >I first heard this song when 'Velvet Underground' came out. What a surprise! Being a lyrics person, I love the first and third albums, am indifferent to most of the second and love bits of the fourth. The third has extrodinary emotional intensity(IMNHO.) Still can't figure out how a not-so-nice jewish boy from Lon Guyland wrote "Jesus." Why its not in the Episcopalian Hymnal I don't know. About Bob Stewart-- I'm glad he's a decent musician and lecturer, he wrote an interesting book about British folksongs which shows not just knowledge of but also loving participation in the tradition. It helped explain to me why I find these songs so compelling. He's not half bad on the Matter of Britian either;-). Thanks for the newsletter thing. And if you're a rolling English drunkard I would assume that's on a rolling English road. Hope your English corpuscles also roll merrily and conscientiously along. Have they spoken yet;-?(for those who think this makes no sense--its involves zinging around with Chesterton's verse.) - ------------------- Drew: >I think Moss Elixir and Jewels for Sophia are two of his best albums >so >far, and Star for Bram suggests to me that the flow isn't a fluke. >I >think the character of his work has really changed since "The Man >with the >Lightbulb Head," but not for the worse. Yes, his stuff has gained depth. The last few records are stong thou I love the earlier stuff too. Its the in between stuff thats problomatic. Change tends to be awkward. Alot of the stuff from QE to PI were, for me, dodgy--sometimes excellent and sometimes pretty bad. I know many of you would include Respect in the trick or treat phase--but not me;-) Kay(yes, who really likes big orchestration when it works) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 13:57:03 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: RE: London calling-- as eagles scrap bears for wood fuel At 01:46 PM 1/23/2002 -0500, gSs wrote: >Tijuana is actually a pretty neat place. It does transition slightly at >night, mostly for the tourists, but like other places certain areas should >be explored with a bit more foresight than certain other areas. Tijuana is a little under a half-hour drive from where I'm currently sitting, and maybe half that from downtown San Diego. Having been to Tijuana a number of times, especially during college, I know firsthand that it really is not as bad as some people seem to think it is. Of course, mainly I would head down there to go out clubbing and bar-hopping in the more American-orientated establishments - the practice really wasn't all that different from young suburban kids heading into the "city" for a night out all across the country, except down here we often crossed an international border to do it. The difference in legal drinking age (when even observed in Mexico) was also a major motivation before you're 21. Overall, we felt pretty safe - and on my numerous sojourns south of the border, I don't think I've had a single problem. Sure, it never hurts to be a little cautious when you're unfamiliar with an area, be it at home or abroad. By the same token, though, there's no reason to go overboard. In any case, besides club streets like Revolucion, Tijuana is a wonderfully interesting place, with a vibrant culture and an intriguing history. A visit to any city, any place, in the 'third world' can be incredibly eye-opening and humbling. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:02:51 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Re: ley lines and dope >I first came across ley lines in (a) Alan Garner's 'The moon of Gomrath' >and (b) John Michell's 'The flying saucer vision'. Michell argued that >they were lines of force associated with Feng Shui, and flying saucers >drew their power from the lines. Dragon Hill just below the Uffington >Horse was the site where a flying saucer had crashed, and Silbury Hill was >a flying saucer launching platform. It all made sense to me at the time - >I had just discovered barley wine ("stronger than a double Scotch and less >than half the price"). if you want a bonkers yet incredibly researched theory of the UFO power grid - and have a degree in mathematics - you might like to have a squiz at Bruce Cathie's "Harmonics" books - Harmonic 33, Harmonic 695 etc. Mad, but rigorous. >Seems like I heard a >couple had opened but then were closed by the feds. Is this so or is it >the local police that are handling the busts? a couple opened and were closed down again - that's about all, despite increasing calls for them to open up (especially by the LibDem party IIRC?). Britain doesn't have an equivalent of the FBI. Doesn't need one. It's not a federation, so doesn't have separate state authorities. Of course, with the way Scotland and Wales are flexing their newfound political legs, one may be eventually needed. James ("Britain akimbo") James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 18:02:30 -0500 From: "madcowan" Subject: An Ode To Librarians Everywhere! I stumbled on this today and thought many of you would like it...8-) http://www.jetcityorange.com/librarians/ Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 15:14:32 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: CDR APPLE (again) on 1/23/02 9:31 AM, Mike Swedene at pulp_101@yahoo.com wrote: > Hey gang. > I have decided to yank my dvd out of my g4. I am very > saddened by this but it needs to be done. anyone know > any sights that can walk me thru this? I opened the > machine up and it looks like it is caged in there. > http://www.info.apple.com/support/cip/g4dacip.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 18:29:53 -0600 From: scodd Subject: Re: ley lines and dope >Britain doesn't have an equivalent of the FBI. Doesn't need one. >It's not a federation, so doesn't have separate state authorities. Of >course, with the way Scotland and Wales are flexing their newfound >political legs, one may be eventually needed. I thought Scotland Yard II was the equivalant or does Scotland Yard only have authority over the London area? Do all law enforecement officers in the UK carry the same jurisdiction/authority as all other law officers? Isn't there some type of seperation between metropolitan police officers and the other type that are for instance often seen carrying MP5's strapped across their shoulders, as an example? So I guess the question really should be, were the busts carried out by local metropolitan type police officers or some other type of law enforcement officers? gSs =================================================================== Texas Metronet =================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:52:54 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: Peggy Lee, I Go to Sleep, and caster sugar Peggy Lee recorded Ray Davies' song I Go to Sleep (also recorded by Chrissie Hynde), so I have a soft spot for her. Do any of you know what caster sugar is? I have a recipe from a Middle Eastern cookbook published in England which calls for caster sugar, but I have no idea what it is. My ten-year-old was in the car with me while I was listening to The Speed of Things, and she asked me if it was Steeleye Span. God, I feel sorry for my kids. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 17:02:47 -0800 From: "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" Subject: caster sugar Jill wrote: > Do any of you know what caster sugar is? I have a recipe from a Middle > Eastern cookbook published in England which calls for caster sugar, but I > have no idea what it is. Caster sugar is a type of sugar that is less granular than regular white sugar but not as fine as powdered sugar. Its pretty common in the UK. I think you can get it in gourmet shops over here. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:57:48 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Peggy Lee, I Go to Sleep, and caster sugar On Wednesday, January 23, 2002, at 06:52 PM, Jill Brand wrote: > My ten-year-old was in the car with me while I was listening to The > Speed > of Things, and she asked me if it was Steeleye Span. God, I feel sorry > for my kids. At least she must of heard (of) Steeleye Span (and Robyn). Plenty of time for musical indoctrination! - - Steve __________ The Bush/Nixon bond is a most peculiar union, given the immense class gap between the Man from Whittier and the would-be dynasty in Kennebunkport. And yet there's an important similarity between them after all. Despite the Bush clan's vast advantage, that crew is, oddly, just as thin-skinned and resentful as the Trickster. Like him, they never forget a slight, and always feel themselves impaired; and so-like Nixon-they tend to favor The Attack. - Mark Crispin Miller ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:37:22 -0600 From: steve Subject: Nothing much (NR) What else is the internet good for - http://tynian.net/funnies/spot9.jpg http://www.kjack.org/media/bearfight.mov http://www.kjack.org/media/thatsamazing.mpeg http://www.kjack.org/media/kittieambush.mpeg - - Steve __________ I know from first-hand experience that a president acting secretly usually does not have the best interests of Americans in mind. Rather, it is his own personal interests that are at stake. - John Dean, on George W. Bush ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 08:41:39 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: caster sugar "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" wrote: > > Caster sugar is a type of sugar that is less granular than regular white > sugar but not as fine as powdered sugar. Its pretty common in the UK. > I think you can get it in gourmet shops over here. Or stick regular sugar in the blender for about 20 seconds. Same result. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 08:46:04 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Redtailed Hawk wrote: > > >I first heard this song when 'Velvet Underground' came out. What a > surprise! > > Being a lyrics person, I love the first and third albums, am indifferent to > most of the second and love bits of the fourth. I got home to find that our good friends in Guilford, CT had sent me VU's "Bootleg Series, Vol. 1: The Quine Tapes". Not listened to it yet, nor am I expecting high fidelity, but it promises. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:26:42 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: ley lines and dope As far as I know we just have local police here, for local people, the Met being police for London... they all have the same authority, although if the circumstances require, they can be armed (although AFAIK, the Armed Response lot are specially trained (to be extra brutal!)). Other police you may have seen in this country are the riot police. They're the ones in all that S&M gear... The bloke with the cannabis cafe was closed down within minutes of opening, having been fairly assured that this would not happen - it was a very badly handled situation in that if the authorities had been slightly more disuasive he would never have opened. A great story from a guy in Glastonbury who changed his name by deed poll to Rob Free Cannabis and planted top quality skunk seeds in all the council flower displays. Sure enough, the seeds grew, in some cases to some quite impressive plants. Rob FC admitted this was his doing, but pointed out in the court case that, although he had scattered the seed, it was actually the council who had fed and watered the plants... it was thrown out of court, and (no word of a lie) that year, Glastonbury won Somerset In Bloom... keep on rolling in the free world... Matt >From: scodd >Reply-To: scodd >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: ley lines and dope >Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 18:29:53 -0600 > > >Britain doesn't have an equivalent of the FBI. Doesn't need one. > >It's not a federation, so doesn't have separate state authorities. Of > >course, with the way Scotland and Wales are flexing their newfound > >political legs, one may be eventually needed. > >I thought Scotland Yard II was the equivalant or does Scotland Yard >only have authority over the London area? > >Do all law enforecement officers in the UK carry the same jurisdiction/authority >as all other law officers? Isn't there >some type of seperation between metropolitan police officers >and the other type that are for instance often seen carrying MP5's >strapped across their shoulders, as an example? > >So I guess the question really should be, were the busts carried out >by local metropolitan type police officers or some other type of >law enforcement officers? > >gSs > > > >=================================================================== >Texas Metronet >=================================================================== - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:31:36 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Peggy Lee, I Go to Sleep, and caster sugar Caster sugar... is this confectioner's sugar in the US... or is that icing sugar? caster suger is like granulated sugar only with much smaller granules. And Jill, if you're kids are getting a decent musical education at a tender age, I envy them! Matt, who didn't even become aware of Steeleye Span until at least 12... >From: Jill Brand >Reply-To: Jill Brand >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Peggy Lee, I Go to Sleep, and caster sugar >Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 19:52:54 -0500 (EST) > >Peggy Lee recorded Ray Davies' song I Go to Sleep (also recorded by >Chrissie Hynde), so I have a soft spot for her. > >Do any of you know what caster sugar is? I have a recipe from a Middle >Eastern cookbook published in England which calls for caster sugar, but I >have no idea what it is. > >My ten-year-old was in the car with me while I was listening to The Speed >of Things, and she asked me if it was Steeleye Span. God, I feel sorry >for my kids. > >Jill - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:55:35 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: ley lines and dope If you're talking about mad books taking in UFO power, Buckminster Fuller, Ley lines and the like, I totally recommend Anti-Gravity and the World Grid, compiled by the (I think fairly notoriously nuts) David Hatcher Childress... a collection of essays by mathematicians, scientists, astrologers and serious hippies, and a (in parts) fascinating read, too! As I remember, a popular historian also had a world grid theory that took in ancient civilisations etc... Graham Hancock? He's also the Giza pyramids/Orion's belt bloke... interesting stuff perhaps to chew over, maybe not necessarily for swallowing... Cheers Matt >From: grutness@surf4nix.com >Reply-To: grutness@surf4nix.com >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: ley lines and dope >Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:02:51 +1300 > > >I first came across ley lines in (a) Alan Garner's 'The moon of Gomrath' > >and (b) John Michell's 'The flying saucer vision'. Michell argued that > >they were lines of force associated with Feng Shui, and flying saucers > >drew their power from the lines. Dragon Hill just below the Uffington > >Horse was the site where a flying saucer had crashed, and Silbury Hill was > >a flying saucer launching platform. It all made sense to me at the time - > >I had just discovered barley wine ("stronger than a double Scotch and less > >than half the price"). > >if you want a bonkers yet incredibly researched theory of the UFO power >grid - and have a degree in mathematics - you might like to have a squiz at >Bruce Cathie's "Harmonics" books - Harmonic 33, Harmonic 695 etc. Mad, but >rigorous. > > >Seems like I heard a > >couple had opened but then were closed by the feds. Is this so or is it > >the local police that are handling the busts? > >a couple opened and were closed down again - that's about all, despite >increasing calls for them to open up (especially by the LibDem party >IIRC?). Britain doesn't have an equivalent of the FBI. Doesn't need one. >It's not a federation, so doesn't have separate state authorities. Of >course, with the way Scotland and Wales are flexing their newfound >political legs, one may be eventually needed. > >James ("Britain akimbo") > > James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= > .-=-.-=-.-=-.- > .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. > - -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance > =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time > - -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:10:15 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Fwd: Re: Peggy Lee, I Go to Sleep, and caster sugar That should, of course, have been "your"... it's still early here, OK? Matt "tenuous grasp of the English language" Sewell >From: "matt sewell" >Reply-To: "matt sewell" >To: jlbrand@bu.edu, fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Peggy Lee, I Go to Sleep, and caster sugar >Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 09:31:36 +0000 > >Caster sugar... is this confectioner's sugar in the US... or is that >icing sugar? > >caster suger is like granulated sugar only with much smaller granules. > >And Jill, if you're kids are getting a decent musical education at a >tender age, I envy them! > >Matt, who didn't even become aware of Steeleye Span until at least 12... > > >From: Jill Brand >Reply-To: Jill Brand >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: >Peggy Lee, I Go to Sleep, and caster sugar >Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 >19:52:54 -0500 (EST) > >Peggy Lee recorded Ray Davies' song I Go to Sleep >(also recorded by >Chrissie Hynde), so I have a soft spot for her. > >Do >any of you know what caster sugar is? I have a recipe from a Middle > >Eastern cookbook published in England which calls for caster sugar, but >I >have no idea what it is. > >My ten-year-old was in the car with me >while I was listening to The Speed >of Things, and she asked me if it was >Steeleye Span. God, I feel sorry >for my kids. > >Jill > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:55:14 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Alfred the White I forgot to say - Wantage, a town not far from Uffington, has a statue of Alfred in the town square (to remember exactly why I would have to dig deep into the memory banks). Every New Years eve, despite a concerted effort by the local police, everyone goes into the square, someone shins up the statue and pours beer all over it. Everyone cheers and then there's one almighty fight... for some reason, the sleepy town of Wantage, tucked away in a nook in the downs is an incredibly violent place... Gog & Magog are the two old oaks, the last remainders of the ancient avenue to Glastonbury Tor... they're at the bottom of a paddock in a campsite where we always stay when we go to Glasto each May Day... the oaks are on their way out, sadly, fewer leaves and more dead branches each year. They are over a thousand years old, though ("hmm - when 900 years old you be, look as good will you not!"). As for the zodiac, well, I'm not a subscriber, but I do know someone who *swears* he can see it... Cheers Matt >From: "Redtailed Hawk" >Reply-To: "Redtailed Hawk" >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Alfred the White >Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 21:55:52 +0000 > >As an Anglephile/phobe I've loved the White Horse thread. And as >someone >whose always had an crush(unrequited alas alack, thou I have >considered >necromancy) on Alfred The Great, love that thread too(and would love >to know >what Alfred's "mysterious ailment" which somehow was changed into >another >"mysterious ailment was. It sounds so wonderfully neurotic, and this >from a >man who came back from total defeat and hiding in the marshes, >united a >nation, gave laws and actively supported learning(including >translating >texts himself) in what was otherwise the darkest of times. > >What's amazing is that he seemed to embody the myth of Arthur, >embody it for >the people whom Arthur repudidly fought, as if the land had absorbed >the >differences. Its a great piece of what Charles William called the >irony >behind irony. >Yes, my Romanticism is showing. ;-) > >Also can't believe no one has mentioned Chesterton's "Ballad of the >White >Horse"(alright-- its not -that- bad.) And as someone who is >imaginitevly >partial to the idea of ley lines(places do have geni loci, not sure >how or >why, but they do in my experience)well ... its one of the best myths >of >modern times. I - -want- it to be true. > >Does anyone know how the Gog Magog hills became known as such from >an >obscure Bible passage? >--------------- > >Robyn's covered "Im Set Free." I assume thats the VU song? Never >heard him >do it but I've always wondered if there was a connection for the >illusion/delusion thing(aka, love sucks major eggs)(vr the beheading >motif >thing which goes back to Arthurian stuff and farther)between >"Airscape" and >it. > >------------------------------ > >Is someone going to bring up the Glastonbury Zodiac or Bob Stewart >next;-? > >Kay, yes, who had her allergy shots today > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 16:02:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Alfred the Cake On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, matt sewell wrote: > I forgot to say - Wantage, a town not far from Uffington, has a statue of > Alfred in the town square (to remember exactly why I would have to dig > deep into the memory banks). According to , he was born there in 849. So he must have failed his GNVQ in catering in about 870. > Every New Years eve, despite a concerted effort by the local police, > everyone goes into the square, someone shins up the statue and pours > beer all over it. Everyone cheers and then there's one almighty > fight... for some reason, the sleepy town of Wantage, tucked away in a > nook in the downs is an incredibly violent place... Shades of Hungerford ... - - Mike Godwin PS Is it true that GNVQ stands for 'Generally not very quick'? :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:37:06 -0800 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: Alfred the White When I get the website updated, I have a ton of photos of Wantage, the statue etc... e On Thursday, January 24, 2002, at 04:55 AM, matt sewell wrote: > I forgot to say - Wantage, a town not far from Uffington, has a statue > of > Alfred in the town square (to remember exactly why I would have to dig > deep into the memory banks). Every New Years eve, despite a concerted > effort by the local police, everyone goes into the square, someone shins > up the statue and pours beer all over it. Everyone cheers and then > there's one almighty fight... for some reason, the sleepy town of > Wantage, tucked away in a nook in the downs is an incredibly violent > place... > > Gog & Magog are the two old oaks, the last remainders of the ancient > avenue to Glastonbury Tor... they're at the bottom of a paddock in a > campsite where we always stay when we go to Glasto each May Day... the > oaks are on their way out, sadly, fewer leaves and more dead branches > each year. They are over a thousand years old, though ("hmm - when 900 > years old you be, look as good will you not!"). > > As for the zodiac, well, I'm not a subscriber, but I do know someone who > *swears* he can see it... > > Cheers > > Matt > >> From: "Redtailed Hawk" >Reply-To: "Redtailed Hawk" >To: > fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Alfred the White >Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 > 21:55:52 +0000 > >As an Anglephile/phobe I've loved the White Horse > thread. And as >someone >whose always had an crush(unrequited alas > alack, > thou I have >considered >necromancy) on Alfred The Great, love that > thread too(and would love >to know >what Alfred's "mysterious ailment" > which somehow was changed into >another >"mysterious ailment was. It > sounds so wonderfully neurotic, and this >from a >man who came back from > total defeat and hiding in the marshes, >united a >nation, gave laws and > actively supported learning(including >translating >texts himself) in > what was otherwise the darkest of times. > >What's amazing is that he > seemed to embody the myth of Arthur, >embody it for >the people whom > Arthur repudidly fought, as if the land had absorbed >the >differences. > Its a great piece of what Charles William called the >irony >behind > irony. >Yes, my Romanticism is showing. ;-) > >Also can't believe no one > has mentioned Chesterton's "Ballad of the >White >Horse"(alright-- its > not -that- bad.) And as someone who is >imaginitevly >partial to the > idea > of ley lines(places do have geni loci, not sure >how or >why, but they > do > in my experience)well ... its one of the best myths >of >modern times. I > -want- it to be true. > >Does anyone know how the Gog Magog hills became > known as such from >an >obscure Bible passage? >--------------- > >> Robyn's covered "Im Set Free." I assume thats the VU song? Never >heard > him >do it but I've always wondered if there was a connection for the >> illusion/delusion thing(aka, love sucks major eggs)(vr the beheading >> motif >thing which goes back to Arthurian stuff and farther)between >> "Airscape" and >it. > >------------------------------ > >Is someone > going to bring up the Glastonbury Zodiac or Bob Stewart >next;-? > >Kay, > yes, who had her allergy shots today > > >> _________________________________________________________________ >MSN > Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #30 *******************************