From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #22 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, January 17 2002 Volume 11 : Number 022 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Father Ted ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Father Ted ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Father Ted ["matt sewell" ] Re: Father Ted ["Stewart C. Russell" ] outside edge [gSs ] Re: Britcom needs [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Father Ted [gSs ] lemon crush [anansi ] Re: Father Ted [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Reggie Perrin ["Rob" ] Re: Reggie Perrin ["Rob" ] Re: Reggie Perrin ["Jason R. Thornton" ] This is a LOCAL post for LOCAL people ["victorian squid" ] stuff & nonsense (?) [steve ] Re: This is a LOCAL post for LOCAL people ["Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Father Ted Rob wrote: > > More tea, father? "No Dougal, these cows are small. Those cows are far away. Small... Far away..." Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:13:29 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Father Ted Matt Browne wrote: > > Ah, Father Ted... I think this is probably the best British comedy > series of the 90s. Just fantastic! nope, that can only go to Absolutely, which did start in 1989 or so, but ran to four series. There have been several spin-off series - Mr Don & Mr George, Squawky Talky, The Preventers (which only made it to a pilot, drat). The cast was also involved in "The Big Knights" (http://www.astleybaker.co.uk/The%20Big%20Knights%20Main%20Page.htm), which featured an armoured hamster named Sir Doris. The original cast (John Sparkes, Gordon Kennedy, Jack Docherty, Moray Hunter, Pete Baikie, & Morwenna Banks) have done other things, but nothing as great as Absolutely. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:22:05 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Father Ted Do you perhaps mean Ever Decreasing Circles? It was a pretty weak Richard Briers (remember The Good Life?) vehicle... ISTR that the main (RB) character was a neurotic amateur cricketer... although the laughs were few, especially the limey ones... that said I am neither Welsh or Danish (not really sure what bearing this has...). IMNSHO Father Ted pisses all over Coupling, in fact over all but a tiny handful of recent comedy shows (I guess you US fegs have not seen Brass Eye over there..?) Cheers Matt > >There was a series from the late 80's or early 90's that was about a >middle class man who was the captain of a cricket team. His life was the >cricket team and the maintenance of their field. His best friend and a >teammate was a middle aged hippie who was married to another middle aged >hippie.What was the name of this show? We saw it in Dallas for about 3 >months a couple years ago, and I have even asked the program director at >kera directly when I call in a pledge, but they act like the show never >existed. > >gSs > > >On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Tom Clark wrote: > > > Anybody out there familiar with the show "Father Ted"? My officemate turned > > me on to it a few weeks ago and I think it's pretty hilarious. Can any UK > > fegs shed some light on it, i.e., how long it ran, how many episodes, > > etc...? > > > > Feck! > > -tc - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:27:03 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Father Ted matt sewell wrote: > > (I guess you US fegs have not seen Brass Eye over there..?) The sight of Phil Collins wearing a "Nonce Sense" T-shirt almost caused me to black out. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 09:37:39 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: outside edge On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Rob wrote: > A little searching reveals a program called Outside Edge. It can't have made > much of an impact, but it has quite a strong cast (eg Timothy Spall). Yeah that's it, thanks. Excellent casting and the few episodes I have seen mix hilarity with personal acceptance and worthiness issues. Anyway, well worth the effort if you get a chance to watch any of them. I wish they would replay that series and now that I have the name I can ask for it directly. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 15:47:36 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Britcom needs On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Rob wrote: > For all your Britcom needs try http://www.phill.co.uk/index.html > over 700 series listed (most absolute rubbish, btw). Ahhhh! This is a list I can waste a lot of time with: A) Absolutely Fabulous: very funny indeed. The recent revival was atrocious, however. The Army Game: I was brought up on this because my Dad had been in the Unity Theatre during the war and knew Alfie Bass and various other left-wing / Jewish / London actors. For the same reason we used to watch the offshoot show Bootsie and Snudge, which just coasted along on mugging and catch phrases. Arthur Haynes Show: AH was a very funny man, specially in sketches with Dermot Kelly. Died young IIRC. At last the 1948 show: I loved this prog. It predated MPFC but featured several of the early Python sketches. Featured John Cleese, Tim Brooke-Taylor, Marty Feldman and Graham Chapman IIRC. B) The Benny Hill Show, whatever its shortcomings, virtually always included a funny song by BH. My favourite is Gypsy Rock, but there are stacks of others including Pepys's Diary ('Yes I know it's right, it's in black and white, and it's all written down in his diary') and 'Transistor Radio' (They tell me that the world's a stage, I've often heard that said, but I don't have a wooden heart, I have a wooden head'). Blandings. The series with Ralph Richardson as Lord Emsworth and Derek Nimmo as Freddie Threepwood was good. C) Chelmsford 123 - bliss! Jimmy Mulville as the Roman occupier and Rory McGrath as the ancient Briton. Lapped it up. Strangely resonant (whoops!) of the Goodies because JM looks like T B-T and RMcG like BO. Citizen Smith - I was never an addict, but it is always interesting to see early performances by Britain's greatest actor, Robert Lindsay. Comic Strip - variable to put it mildly, but I did laugh at the episode where they spoofed a programme where ordinary polytechnic lecturers and social workers tried to live under Iron Age conditions in Savernake Forest. D) Dad's Army. I still watch the repeats fairly regularly. It fell apart when James Beck died. Do not adjust your set. Everybody's favourite show, another pre-Python offering including Bonzo Dog, Palin and Jones, and most eccentric of all, David Jason as Captain Fantastic in 'Captain Fantastic and the Blit Men'. Who would have thought he had a career ahead of him? Drop the dead donkey. Started off really well with loads of topical gags. Degenerated into a soap after Haydn Gwynne left. F) The Fast Show. Mmmm - jazz: Nice! They ran out of ideas well before it ended, though. Father Ted was funny, but not really my sort of thing. Fawlty Towers: exceptional, superb. "Your rat, sir?". Four Tall Tinkles: I'd forgotten this. four brilliant, surreal episodes by N F Simpson. Also Three Rousing Tinkles. What was the name of the film? Frost Report: included those unforgettable sketches with John Cleese (upper class), Ronnie Barker (middle class) and Ronnie Corbett (working class). I'm a huge Ronnie Barker fan and I like him in anything, even Open All Hours. G) The Good Life - not a sensible prog, but worth watching for Paul Eddington. The Goodies - just my sort of thing. Remember the one where they started a pirate radio station, but had only one record ("A walk in the Black Forest" by Horst Jankowski)? Goodness Gracious Me - really just one sketch (the English Meal). But I like the 2 old ladies who sing songs as well. The Grimleys - terrific, fell apart when Brian Conley left. H) Hancock: Anything by Tony Hancock is all right by me, but I prefer the early Sid James / Patricia Hayes ones to the later solo efforts. Harry Worth: Gosh! I used to watch this all the time. But why? Once you've seen him bumble for the first time, the rest is just repetition. Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy: They repeated these recently and they are still funny. But it's really a radio show and Peter Jones is the star. Hugh and I: I sort of remember this. Moderately amusing. Terry Scott is funnier in retrospect than he was at the time. I) It's a square world. Basically Michael Bentine in play therapy, but sometimes hilarious. The models with the mountain climbers or whatever were ingenious, and I liked the 'Lost World' sketch where he climbs on to a plateau inhabited by yellow diggers. K) Kenny Everett. Great, love it. Repetitive, Kenny? Surely not. Remember that one with the Bee Gees? L) The Likely Lads. They're reshowing the 'Whatever happened to' series again at the moment, but they aren't as good as the first series. James Bolam is fab, but I've seen them maybe five times too often. M) Morecambe and Wise. Overexposed since they died, but some of the sketches are still funny. Marriage Lines: I'd forgotten this completely. Worth watching Pru Scales and Richard Briers occasionally. N) Not the nine o'clock news. Whatever happened to Pamela Stephenson? I adored her Kate Bush takeoff ("They love my latest hits, cos thy like my latex tits, and they want to get inside my leotard"). And Rowan Atkinson's visitor from the planet where there was no disease, no war, and the Morris Metro had a different gearstick... O) Oh brother. Just about remember Derek Nimmo in this. Or was that All Gas and Gaiters? [I've just looked it up - it was both]. P) The Peter Principle. Good prog. I liked the one where the girl had to go out in a squirrel costume and got savaged by a man in a dog(?) costume. Love Jim Broadbent anyway. Please Sir. I was completely addicted to this. Joan Sanderson was great and John Alderton was pretty good too. The spinoff Fenn St Gang was rubbish, as was the spinoff movie, where all the pupils were obviously aged about 28... Porridge. I can watch this repeatedly, and do, because it's Ronnie Barker. Obviously nicked from the film Two Way Stretch, with Barker playing the Peter Sellers role, Richard Beckinsale taking Bernard Cribbins, and Fulton Mackay in the Lionel Jeffries part. Series fell apart after Richard Beckinsale died. Q) Milligan's Q shows were worth watching if not always funny. My favourite gag was the one where a man kept changing his hat, and a caption appeared 'BBC economy crowd scene'. R) The Rag Trade. Forgotten that - Miriam Karlin as the shop steward and the great Peter Jones as the boss. Probably very dated now. Ripping Yarns. Some of them were funny, but others weren't. Palin is good-natured but lacking in some quality or other. Incisiveness? Rising Damp. Fun. I like the scenes between Rossiter and de la Tour best. Rutland Weekend TV. I've got the LP! Smashing stuff, specially the 3 sailors on a 24 hour pass in Tunbridge Wells, and Neil Innes's Dylan impersonation. S) Steptoe and Son. Can't watch these any more. Sat through hours of them is the 60s. Sykes. Eric is a joy in his limited way. T) Thin Blue Line. Rubbish except for the genius of David Haig. Till Death Us Do Part. I watched most of these (as with Steptoe). I suspect that they couldn't be shown today, even if anyone wanted to watch them. Dandy Nichols brilliant. Two Ronnies. Well, one of them is Ronnie Barker... U) The Upper Hand. I used to watch this quite a bit, basically to see Honor Blackman. Good standard of performance throughout, though. V) Very Peculiar Practice. Absolute genius, Andrew Davies at his hungry best. David Troughton excellent as the money mad medico, Graham Crowden superb as the drunk head doctor, Peter Davison good as the hero. Loved the one where they were trying to pension off the head of the girl's college so as to sell the building to the Japs. And those nuns ... Victoria Wood. Yes, she's funny. I like the songs, but on the whole I prefer her sketches to her standup routines. What did you think of Dinner Ladies? Not as funny as it was cracked up to be, apart from the gadget-mad engineer. W) Whack-O! Gosh, I remember that. Hilarious comedy about beating boys as hard as possible. It didn't work at all when they tried to remake it in the 70s. They haven't even got a full cast list here. I remember that Eric Chitty played the doddery oldest master, but who played Taplow? World of Wooster. These were more reliable than the recent Fry and Laurie version. Only problem was that Ian Carmichael as Bertie was obviously so much older than Derek Nimmo as Bingo Little, who was supposedly his school pal. But Dennis Price was fine as Jeeves. Incidentally, what was that original Fry and Laurie series called? I haven't spotted it here. [A bit of Fry and Laurie? A little bit of Fry and Laurie?] Y) Yes Minister. Scintillating, spot-on satire. The late Nigel Hawthorne at his oleagenous best. Paul Eddington on top form. Solid supporting cast. The later Yes Prime Minister progs were not quite up to the same standard. The Young Ones. Hilarious, hit and miss (mainly hit). Loved the talking vegetables, the young adults TV show, the University Challenge episode, the appearance by Buddy Holly. I'm just off for a pint down at the Kebab and Calculator. But agreed, Rob, most of the rest of those shows were _tripe_. [Thinks: did they miss Dick Emery? And what about the Telegoons?] - - Mike Godwin PS I wouldn't call Lovejoy or Minder a comedy series, would you? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 13:01:58 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Father Ted (I guess you US fegs have not seen Brass Eye over there..?) I do not remember seeing it but a couple pledge drives ago KERA ran a few new shows and had the viewers vote on their favorite. Thermo-man won. Pitiful. That is so far at the very bottom of my list of British comedies. Another good one was 'the fall and rise of reginald perrin' and though I forgot the list it, 'good neighbors', next to 'open all hours' and 'mulberry' is at the top of the list. Just the idea of a family switching life styles so suddenly and appearing somewhat successful is fascinating. Fantasy? Sure I guess, but definately not impossible. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:43:46 -0800 From: anansi Subject: lemon crush > From: Capuchin > It is a fundamental failing of our system that there exists a perceived > dichotomy between the survival or comfort of creative persons and the free > flow of ideas and expressions. "Survival" in a monetary sense I'll grant you, but frankly I don't think "comfort" has anything at all to do with "our system." > And I must say that I'm with him when it comes to user interfaces. A > command line sure does have a whole lot more flexibility (and, hence, > power) than any GUI can provide. I really don't see the problem with > teaching people a few commands and how to read simple documentation (like > - --help output or man pages) for a refresher now and then. (If only man > pages weren't primarily written for programmers...) I *know* we have discussed this here before, but a command line is only as flexible and powerful as it is easy to use; a GUI is sufficient and, for the average user, at least as efficient as a CLI for the average user's tasks; and a GUI is superior when it comes to recognition vs. recall. I will grant that Stephenson's analogy of the Sherman tank is spot on; yeah, a tank is more "powerful" but most people just need to get groceries, not take on an army. It's this same dick-waving "harder is better" mentality that drives the sale of SUVs to single people who live in urban areas. Your experience of a CLI as better is perfectly natural and valid given what you do with computers. It is not every user's experience. And yeah, I've used CLIs extensively before and I sure as hell do prefer them for some tasks. I've tested interfaces with enough ordinary people to know that I am not an average user either. > From: The Great Quail > I suppose what touched my nerve about your post was the phrase, > "creeped me out." It implies that I am, or at least can be, creepy, > which, to me, implies a lot of very, very negative things, especially > in a sexual context. That's weird, but I can assure you that I didn't have anything like that in mind. To be brutally honest, until you replied to me I did not remember who originated the phrase in the first place, so I certainly was not saying that any particular individual was sexually creepy. > I hope you understand, and accept my apology, which is not half-hearted. It always feels somehow arrogant to say "I accept your apology," but I do. > From: "Redtailed Hawk" > Quail on Stephenson: > >> I agree, and I mention that I won't defend him totally, because I do >> think his characterizations are a bit sexist. And Anne Rice's >> characterizations of men are ludicrous, too. I missed this -- I think because I skipped a lot of the remaining discussion. I don't think Anne Rice's characterizations of men are any more ludicrous than her characterizations in general. Beneath the melodrama I find them extremely simpatico, perhaps because I am a screaming breederfag and so are most of her male characters. > Funny, the worse man-hater Ive > ever known was straight, very feminine, mean as hell and astonishingly > manipulating of men thru her femininity. Funny you should bring this up, actually. I was thinking about it afterwards and realized that most of the dykes I know, bull or otherwise, don't really hate men to any unusual degree. The worst misandrists I know do tend to be straight women, which stands to reason if you think about it -- why hate something that's basically irrelevant to your life? Similarly, gay men don't tend to be the worst misogynists I know, Mr. Garrison notwithstanding. Here the theory begins to break down, though, because actually the worst misogynists I know are *also* straight women. > From: "Walker, Charles" > > chas in LA replies: you ever been the object of the wrath of a woman? those > scales start to balance out pretty quickly and a guy like ted bundy can > begin to look like a god drinking buddy. Suddenly the "bull dyke from hell" thing *really* seems innocuous. Anyway...here's the core of the remarks I was going to make before about the idea that it's even possible to perceive or portray someone as a "complete human being": I wanted to comment on the idea that stereotypes and generalizations are "dehumanizing." I'm not saying they're wonderful things, but I think they are problematic results of a very human mode of thought, that of attempting to perceive patterns based on similar elements. I don't think there's a large chasm between stereotypes, generalizations, and "accurate" observations; there are perceptions and syntheses of those perceptions, and they grade from specious nonsense based on secondhand report through prejudices based on scant evidence to nuanced conclusions drawn from thorough investigation. At the one end are tall tales and xenophobic lies, and at the other are anthropological studies. I'd be hard- pressed to point to the dot on that axis where the perception of a person or a group of people turns from a (hatred-based?) cutout into a fully three-dimensional ("human") portrait. Does that make any sense? Maybe not. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:47:01 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Father Ted On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, gSs wrote: > Another good one was 'the fall and rise of reginald perrin' I was just about to mention this, as I was a big fan in high school. Do I remember correctly that Reginald actually killed himself at the end of the third series? aaron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:25:51 -0000 From: "Rob" Subject: Re: Reggie Perrin On 16 Jan 2002 at 17:47, Aaron Mandel wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, gSs wrote: > > > Another good one was 'the fall and rise of reginald perrin' > > I was just about to mention this, as I was a big fan in high school. Do I > remember correctly that Reginald actually killed himself at the end of the > third series? > No there is another series, quite recent. Didn't watch it myself but read the book. Reggie has died of natural causes & left a will suggesting piles of money for his family & friends, but with certain conditions to be fulfilled. Filmed in the mid-90's. Leonard Rossiter (Reggie) was long dead by then though. Has The League of Gentlemen made it across to the US yet? Now there's a series to look out for, very sinister and very funny. Includes the first appearance of a merkin on UK tv to the best of my knowledge. - -- Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 23:53:27 -0000 From: "Rob" Subject: Re: Reggie Perrin On 16 Jan 2002 at 23:25, Rob wrote: > > No there is another series, quite recent. Didn't watch it myself but read the book. Reggie has died of natural causes & left a will suggesting piles of > money for his family & friends, but with certain conditions to be fulfilled. Filmed in the mid-90's. Leonard Rossiter (Reggie) was long dead by then though. > Actually, upon checking, it wasn't natural causes (unless you count a billboard falling on him as natural). Was called The Legacy Of Raginald Perrin. - -- Rob PS Pauline McLynn (Mrs Doyle in Father Ted) is not unattractive when out of character. She can also write (wrote a chapter in a book written by a number of Irish authors in aid of Amnesty International). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:06:46 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Reggie Perrin At 11:25 PM 1/16/2002 +0000, Rob wrote: >Has The League of Gentlemen made it across to the US yet? Now there's a >series to look out for, very sinister and very funny. Includes the first >appearance of a merkin on UK tv to the best of my knowledge. The League of Gentlemen was being shown for awhile on Comedy Central, which also runs Absolutely Fabulous. - --Jason "bull dissector" Thornton "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 17:03:58 -0800 From: "victorian squid" Subject: This is a LOCAL post for LOCAL people On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 11:42:18 Tom Clark wrote: >Anybody out there familiar with the show "Father Ted"? BBCAmerica shows it often. It's one of their staple shows. They also have some great things that you don't see on PBS (at least, they don't run on PBS here and didn't in Chicago that I recall) like "Jonathan Creek" and "Hamish Macbeth". Both of which only have like, what, 20 episodes? Which brings me to something I wonder about. It seems that a -lot- of British shows only have around 25-30 episodes. Is there a reason for that? I know sometimes it's dictated by circumstances but it seems as though more often than not it's a planned thing. Just curious. Rob: >PS Just before sending this I notice gSs refer to Coupling. This >is the best British comedy in years, IMHO. You like it more than "League of Gentlemen"? loveonya, susan Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 15:46:50 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Re: Father Ted >Anybody out there familiar with the show "Father Ted"? My officemate turned >me on to it a few weeks ago and I think it's pretty hilarious. Can any UK >fegs shed some light on it, i.e., how long it ran, how many episodes, >etc...? IIRC it ran for about three seasons (about 20 shows in all). Sadly Dermot Morgan, who played Father Ted died before they got a chance to do any more shows. The Christmas special - especially the WWII POW type escape from the lingerie department of a big store - is a classic. Ardal O'Hanlon (Father Dougal) went on to a couple of other truly dire shows before chnaging style to a more urbane type of comedy, a style which he appears to suit more. Drink! James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:14:07 -0700 From: hal Subject: vacation pics anyone? [100% self indulgent] If you feel like killing some time looking at someone else's scrap book, please enjoy this quickie webpage with some photos from my recent amazing, head-altering trip visiting my wife, Carey, in Hong Kong and China: http://personal.milehigh.net/hbrandt/photogallery02.html /hal http://personal.milehigh.net/hbrandt/home2.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 01:58:12 -0600 From: steve Subject: stuff & nonsense (?) The real poop on the iMac - http://www.theonion.com/onion3801/infograph_3801.html Words to live by - > Tip No.1 : Don't become seduced by that hoary old 'elitist' fly-trap. > It's a schoolboy ruse and a conceptual and creative ball and chain. > > Tip No.2 : Fashion, whilst amusing, equals Fascism. > > Tip No.3 : Be aware which way the wind is blowing and know when it's > time to run against it. > > Tip No.4 : Whatever you build, make sure that you are strong enough to > dismantle it. > > Tip No.5 : Beauty and Wonder exist everywhere if your heart and mind > exist nowhere. (Yup, it's a Zen thing.) > > Tip No.6 : Why look over your shoulder if it's all behind you ? If you > must, use a mirror. > > Tip No.7 : Your ears aren't connected to your head for nothing, but > sometimes thoughts can be deafening. > > Tip No.8 : Remain cantankerous in all but the sweetest situation. > Heaven will thank you for it. I however, being cantankerous too, will > oppose you for the sheer hell of it. > > Tip No.9 : Limits are yours to impose, but only upon yourself. > > Tip No.10 : It's not a circle, it's a spiral. - - Steve __________ Members of the Christ Community Church in Alamogordo, N.M., burned Harry Potter books, Star Wars items and works by Shakespeare and J.R.R. Tolkien, USA Today reported. Pastor Jack Brock called the Potter books "a masterpiece of satanic deception [that teaches] children how they can get into witchcraft." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:15:23 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: This is a LOCAL post for LOCAL people victorian squid wrote: > > Which brings me to something I wonder about. It seems > that a -lot- of British shows only have around 25-30 episodes. > Is there a reason for that? A standard British season is 6 episodes, or at least was until recently. Stewart (recovering from -- can you believe -- the new taste sensation: YAKULT SHOTS! Yup, Yakult and Tequila.) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #22 *******************************