From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #13 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, January 10 2002 Volume 11 : Number 013 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Takes one to know one ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] RE: One Well-red Bird ["Larry O'Brien" ] RE: So What's Everybody Reading? [rob ] Re: So What's Everybody Reading? [Johnathan Vail ] Re: iMac and bye Dave [gSs ] Reads and DRM (slight return) [dmw ] sick lymph nodes and other stories ["Natalie Jane" ] gritty kitty kitty litter ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: iMac, uMac, we all Mac? (NeXt, cube, next desperate marketing ploy) [] potty books ["Jason R. Thornton" ] reading ["ross taylor" ] RE: reading ["Larry O'Brien" ] stephenson [Viv Lyon ] more stephenson [Viv Lyon ] Oophs ["Redtailed Hawk" ] Re: I get around DRM [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:56:00 -0500 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: Takes one to know one I know plenty of two-faced actors ;-) How about the little girl/dwarf in Don't Look Now... What's his face and Lou Feringo(?) in The Incredible Hulk...? All right I'm being flippant I was in a show once where an actor was late, and the director went on as the Wicked Witch in the first few scenes. The actor then took over, much to the hilarity of the audience. Especially as the director was moustachioed... Hey Diddley Dee etc.... jmbc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:06:05 -0600 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: One Well-red Bird I think it was Senor Simchick who offered: > Oliver Twist - Charles Dickens (not the well-known Dutch author) Of course, that would have been Charles Dikkens :-P How about a Sale of Two Titties? Michael "Olsen's Standard Guide to British Birds" Wells (now that's a multi-thread tie-in for you, well done Andrew) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:10:28 -0500 From: "Larry O'Brien" Subject: RE: One Well-red Bird Just let me know when the Proust summarizing competition starts. "Proust in his first book wrote about wrote about" - -----Original Message----- From: Mike Wells [mailto:mwells@imageworksmfg.com] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:06 AM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: One Well-red Bird I think it was Senor Simchick who offered: > Oliver Twist - Charles Dickens (not the well-known Dutch author) Of course, that would have been Charles Dikkens :-P How about a Sale of Two Titties? Michael "Olsen's Standard Guide to British Birds" Wells (now that's a multi-thread tie-in for you, well done Andrew) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:51:34 +0000 From: rob Subject: RE: So What's Everybody Reading? >===== Original Message From "Melissa Higuchi" ===== >last really good thing read was the Wasp Factory by Iain Banks. anyone out >there read his sci fi stuff? > Well, there's me. I think I've read pretty much all of his work and there's only a couple I'd suggest steering clear of, the rest is very good. His sci fi is IMHO quite exceptional, try The Player of Games or Consider Phlebas (one of two of his sci fi books with the title taken from The Wasteland) for starters. Another one I'm fond of (not sci fi) is Espedair Street which is about a rock band (I think he's a frustrated rocker as he even went so far as to write songs for the band). Rob nr Blue Afternoon - William Boyd ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:03:29 -0500 From: Johnathan Vail Subject: Re: So What's Everybody Reading? I don't have much time to read these days but I am in the middle of: Infinite Jest - David Foster Wallace http://www.smallbytes.net/~bobkat/jesterlist.html Gotham (A History of NYC) - Mike Wallace and Edwin Burrows http://www.cfht.hawaii.edu/~jmcd/book/revs2/gthm.html And on my Palm using CspotRun .doc reader I have Hamlet by William Something. jv ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:41:56 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: iMac and bye Dave On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, Capuchin wrote: > And by the way, my dual PIII 850s seem to outrun nearly all the P4 > benchmarks I've seen... including the ludicrous 2.2 GHz models (can you > imagine what the high frequency radiation must be like on those things?). > > > > > "Pentium Crushing Imac" 800Mhz - $1700. > > > > P4 - 1.5Ghz - $900 at CompUSA. > > > > P4 - 2.0Ghz - $1550 at CompUSA. > > > You should be running AMD Athlon processors. I am running an Athlon XP 1500 in an Asus motherboard with 512mb of memory. The motherboard, processor and ram cost less than $250.00. It is a "garage" pc, but it has been running 24/7 since Dec. 28th., 2001. Out of the box pc's are alright I guess, just not for me. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:48:58 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Reads and DRM (slight return) Re Neal Stephenson: I found an awful lot to like in _the diamond age_ but someone already troubled by his treatment of female characters might want to be forewarned that, although the novel has a very plucky female protagonist, halfway through it there is a surpassingly nasty, hallucinatory scene of sexual violence. I *think* he sort of justified it by the end, but your milage might well vary. It's right at the end of a major subdivision of the book; I suspect you could just skip ahead when you hit it and suffer mild confusion later. right now: _Red Heart of Memories_, Nina Kiriki Hoffman ...if more fantasy were like this, the genre wouldn't have such a bad name. Lovely lyrical prose, complex believable characters, and a startling imagination. Naturally, she doesn't sell well. on deck: _tim sweeney's guide to releasing independent records_ recently _The Chess Garden_, Brooks Hanson Fascinating, perplexing, heavily metaphorical examination of issues of faith; in alternating chapters history-book-dry cold third person narrative with slight irony and (in epistolary fashion) vibrant, imaginative yarns an elderly doctor writes to his children, with (subtley) coded spiritual instruction. An amazing book, few novels have transported me as this one did. & a buncha mystery/suspense stuff, notably the comic capers of Janet Evanovich and the rather improbably hard-boiled but still engaging and suspensful work of Carol O'Connell & finally, the finest, tenderest, most delicate and most lubricious work of feminist lesbian victorian erotica that i ever hoped to encounter, the wonderful _Pavlova's Bitches_ (the name is the thing I like least about this work by a mile -- strikes a dischordant note not otherwise present). This last is available by FTP from: http://www.asstr.org/files/Authors/oosh/ and in nicely-designed if rather IE-specific hyptertext at http://www.asstr.org/~oosh/pavlova.html On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Tom Clark wrote: > Another "service" we've talked about might work like this: > You tell the service provider that you love Robyn Hitchcock. You wake up > one day and see a message on your TV screen saying: "The new Soft Boys album > has been downloaded to your jukebox. Would you like to purchase it?" > If you answer yes, your bill is debited and the album is unlocked. It even > contains rich content like artwork, liner notes, video clips, etc... > Hopefully, you could also plug in a CD burner and make a hard copy. > Would you guys be in favour of such a thing? Maybe. If: A. The audio were sufficiently high quality that I felt the value was equivalent to commercial 16bit 44Khz CDs -- or better yet, superior. I think that means I would prefer a truly lossless format, but a I might consider ultra-high bandwidth MP3 or equivalent (Ogg?) **IF** I honestly couldn't hear significant degradation. B: It can't be a Yes/No dialog box; it needs to give me at least as much information as I can glean from looking at a physical package in a store. The more advance info you can give (and while Jeme's idea of sampling in a 'locked' area of the device isn't a make or break for me, it sure would be nice) the better - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:54:01 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: sick lymph nodes and other stories >>Many people have claimed I resemble a hobbit (short, stocky, curly >>hair, penchant for over-eating). > >Oh, good grief. I think that would make me a hobbit too. Hobbits don't shave their heads. >I agree with Nat-all the kiwi men I've met have been >quite cute, and have the most wonderful dry sense of humour. The guy from Christchurch who cuts my hair is the cutest thing - I'm not quite sure whether he's shy or not too bright, but it's interesting to talk to him about his American culture shock and his experiences in Britain, where he also lived for a while. He has the most adorable giggle imaginable. Alas, he is married. >Check out the maps of Waq, Vulpina, Lilliput, Balnibarbi, and >Havnor. There are other oddities to some of the maps too... With the Earthsea map, I'm sure they skewed it a bit in order to avoid any copyright problems with the original map. Same with the Middle Earth map. I remember another map - Prydain, I think - where some stuff was in completely the wrong place. I guess this is picking one nit too many, though... >PS - good to hear your health's better than it could have been, >Nat... Thank you. I was officially diagnosed with "necrotizing lymphadenitis," which sounds horrible but just means that the lymph node was badly infected and was starting to die. If it hadn't been removed, the infection might have spread, so the scar is worth it. >Saw Kimberley solo the other night at the Borderline supporting >someone >called Britt Daniel (?) from a band called Spoon... I accidentally saw this guy open up for the Minders on my epic trip to Bowling Green a couple of years ago. Most of the crowd (about fifteen people) was there to see him, so I assumed he was local, but he wasn't. It was just him and a drum machine and some sharp pop songs - he was pretty good, but he affected a British accent which I thought was dumb. Martyn Leaper was terribly excited because Daniel was borrowing Martyn's amp, and stood up front through the whole set. n. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:54:40 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: New Catagories in Reading Nat >Anyway, it's good toilet >reading, which is probably more than you needed to know. Hey--don't put down good toilet reading, its the great unrecognized category! I'd like to be able to go into a bookstore and see a sign for it as a major classification. And not just for the bathroom, also for when youre cooking and need to stir something every few minutes, when you're downloading stuff from the Net, etc. Maybe they could primly file it under "Multitasking." I bought Mike a visual dictionary for Christmas, specifically cause it is great toilet reading. Its got lots of bright pictures and diagrams showing you the proper names for all the whidgets, what-do-ya-call-its and thingamajiggies in the world. Oh, and Nat, If you want a great raptor rush, read TH White's book "The Goshawk." Am glad to hear your good news. - -------------------------- Booklist-- I'd read the "Noonday Demon" but I fear it will just make me depressed;-) Melissa--Ive got Banks "Inversions" at home but havent started it yet. Am into the beginning of "The Dream Drugstore" by Allan Hobsom which is all about brain chemistry and structure, different modes of consiousness, drugs etc. I'm just at the start but I get the feeling it has certain philosphical underpinnings which will grow clearer as I keep reading. Seed and Plant Catalogs. Damn this is fun. I'm not yet at the harsh point of figuring out what I can afford. I'm at the happy point of dreaming about what I want. Am learning more about herbs so I can plant useful as well as tasty ones. Also Diane Ackerman's "Cultivating Delight." Sometimes its so presciously Diane Ackermanish I want to cultivate lighting her heavy, poetic Pre-Rhapelite tresses on fire, sometimes its so downright groovy I reread a passage. Assorted Astrology Books. I've finially gotten to the point where I feel brave enough to do some serious analysis of my parent's charts. They both have an unusually large amount of aspects. "The Word Museum : The Most Remarkable English Ever Forgotten"/ Jeffrey Kacirk and "The Describer's Dictionary" / David Gramb. These are both cool word books. Perfect bathroom reading. "Train your Dog: Change your Life"/Maureen Ross. Just got this, may be New Age crap, maybe useful and interesting. Don't know yet. - -------------------------- Ross, >My only quibble w/ NZ is someone named Denis >Dutton. He runs the Arts & Letters Daily / >Sci-Tech Daily web pages, What is the addy for that Sci-Tech part again? Used to read it but thought it had disappeared. While I love Arts & Letters Daily since its the equivelent of middle-brow(which I proudly am) toilet reading, it does have a conservative bias in what it chooses. Would Slashdot be more to your taste? They don't do science thou. I sometimes use Plastic, but it tend towards the glib. In paper I love the science for dummies weekly mag "ScienceNews" >>they are the high geeks of the bird world. >>Who knows what would happen if you gave one a computer;-) >He'd drop bits of roadkill in the keyboard. Thats funny:-). Could get abit messy thou. There's a slim possibiblty the crows just properly aging the meat to improve its taste. But more likely he just gets a brand new keyboard whenever he wants one. I'd surmise the old ones have enough other virtues to keep on operating thou. - ---------------------------------------- Stewart--Congrats on the house sale. Now you don't have to keep everything in neatnick "show" condition. Hope you got a good price. Kay, who has finially become totally lost on the tech stuff _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:09:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: gritty kitty kitty litter > From: "Natalie Jane" > Drew, are you listening? - it's also an > excellent and > original vampire story. Hooray! > Also, I have no desire to *write* SF, so > I'd like to start > reading some books of the sort that I'd like to write > (grubby realism - That's funny -- I tend to have the opposite problem, where I tend to read more realistic fiction but I don't really want to write it. Drew ===== - -- Andrew D. Simchik, adsimchik@yahoo.com Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:30:39 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: iMac, uMac, we all Mac? (NeXt, cube, next desperate marketing ploy) On Thu, Jan 10, 2002, Capuchin wrote: > > NT at least used to run on Alpha and MIPS. :) But still, no thanks. > > I'll keep Solaris on the SPARC. > > Well, I've got moral problems with commercial software (and proprietary > expressions in general), so I'd cheer for something else. > If you mean Windows, I can understand. But if you mean Solaris, it's been free and open source for a while now. I guess you can thank Linux for that. Of course not everything is open source, like the Sun compiler. As of last time I heard, gcc didn't support 64-bit, and some of the Sun stuff compiled with their super expensive compiler is not easy to work with. > > I like having Windows around. And I like NT4. > > I guess I don't see how this jives with the rest of what you wrote. It does to the original point that Mac OS, Windows NT/2k (I find 9x/ME useless for almost anything), and Unix all do things better than the other OS's. I like having them all there on the occasion I need something done that one does much better than the others. And I wish OS-particular radicals would just accept that this is so. Like Michael Elkins said about mutt, "All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less." > > I like Unix, and admin it at work, but find it annoying as a home > > desktop. OS X is the best of all worlds in my opinion. > > How is OSX NOT Unix? Just because it runs something other than X for a > windowing environment? Yeah, basically. OS X is definitely Unix. It's NeXTStep. That is good and bad. It's good in that NeXT had a great GUI (unfortunately Apple had to put in the stupid Mac-style top menu bar). It's bad in that though I'm sure NeXT's Unix was fine at the time, I think a lot of severely outdated. It uses Netinfo. It seems that things as simple as changing a user's password isn't a simple passwd; you need to use Netinfo. I think they need to get into the modern Unix/BSD world with stuff like that. And NeXT, from what I remember, doesn't do things like I would want, or maybe Apple took them out of OS X to save Mac users from themselves. There is no screen lock function; you are dependent on the screensaver for that. A really good NeXT/OS X guy in the UK just came up with something at my suggestion that works quite well, though. Copy and paste is as it is in Mac OS. Not automatically copying the selected text on the command line is driving me up the wall. I constantly will paste elsewhere and realize that I hadn't copied the text I selected. And as of yet, it doesn't seem possible to remap Caps Lock to Control. This is also totally driving me up the wall. Someone came up with something, but though it works, the button still acts as an on/off switch. And the Terminal app is direct from NeXT. nsterm I think. WAY outdated. It is in serious need of updating and updated termcap/terminfo defs. > Now, as you and I know (and the rest of the list SHOULD know), nearly > every Unix and unix-like system in the world, INCLUDING Linux, supports > the automatic paste buffer with the mouse highlighting. > > For those that don't know, that means that whenever you highlight ANY > text, it's automatically "copied" to the paste buffer and a middle click > (that's why we have three buttons) will paste it. So it's not "highlight, > edit->copy, select destination, edit->paste" sequence, you just highlight, > then middle click at the destination. I've encounted, in all my life, ONE > application that didn't support this seamlessly. Yeah, but it's not entirely as it seems it would be, or is XFree86's implementation of this different than X11's? To really copy text to the clipboard, you really need to physically copy it. Simply selecting text goes to the Primary selection. Pasting will paste what's on the clipboard, not the primary selection. The middle button works with the primary, not clipboard. > As it stands, all of the running computers in my house (7 always on, at > last count) are running GNU/Linux on Intel processors (9 of them in those > 7 machines). I'd LOVE to run something else on some of them, but there's > very little software up to the task. I have high hopes for a GNU/HURD > system on my desktop in the near future. I'd LOVE to run some other > hardware platform, but the cost is too high for me right now. Just so you > know. I understand. PC hardware is cheap as hell. > OK, what I'd REALLY love to see would be some small systems based on > StrongARM or other low power processors at a very low price to take over > some of the lighter tasks (web, file server, mail, firewall, etc.) and > decrease my power consumption and noise levels... but I guess as long as > they can sell you a big desktop machine, that's what they'll do. Heh heh. My full tower PC case with its two fans (two of my drives run really hot) is so freakin' loud. Next to it I can't hear the Mac at all, and that is what I have been using more than anything lately. > Dreaming of a 9V PC, Just don't put your tongue in it. ;-) I think we had better take this off list. I am sure 99% of the people here could care less about this stuff. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:42:00 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: potty books At 04:54 PM 1/10/2002 +0000, Redtailed Hawk wrote: >Hey--don't put down good toilet reading, its the great unrecognized >category! I'd like to be able to go into a bookstore and see a sign for it >as a major classification. My grandparents have a big thick book titled "The Great American Bathroom Book," or something close to that, in a magazine rack in their guest bathroom. It's filled with hundreds of two-page biographical sketches, articles on historical events, literary synopses, and such. So the need for toilet-use orientated reading materials has been recognized by one publisher at least. They also keep a few religious tracts, or miniature magazines, titled the "Daily Word" in there, for the purpose of crap-time conversion, I suppose. Personally I found the evangelical publications a little more entertaining but your kilometerage may vary. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:32:26 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: reading I'm reading _It's Only Rock and Roll_, a fiction anthology w/ a so-so title but really good stories. Earlier I read a poetry anthology called _Sweet Nothings_ which was supposedly a colletcion of poems about pop. Some good poets included, but very mainstream & the "pop" criteria seemed to be that somewhere in the poem were a couple of lines saying blah blah blah happened while the Beach Boys played on the radio IORaR is a bunch of good stories written about rock from something like an insider perspective. Authors like Madison Smartt Bell, T.C. Boyle, Jill McCorkle, Lance Olsen, & others I've never heard of but who write well & love pop. Edited by Janice Eidus & John Kastan. My favorite story read last year was "The Mirrorman Sequences" by Robin Williamson. It's basically a slightly fictionalized memoire of his pre Incredible String Band life in about 70 pages, a loose narrative but with incredible descriptions, voice, charactors, feeling, tone (and did I mention voice?) throughout. Better than his lyrics (which I like). It was in an old o.o.p. anthology called Outlaw Visions. I think it's the only prose he's written. Pity. Also reading _Blues People_ by Leroi Jones. I have major problems w/ some attitudes etc. of the Amiri Baraka that Jones turned into, but this is an important book, & in the context of 1963 his rage is right on target. But mainly there's a ton of useful insight about music & culture. A couple of things I'm always reading are Fitzgerald's Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam and the *1855* edition of Whitman's Leaves of Grass. - --- Sympathy to Natalie on her scare & Ed's sister in law on her worry. "We walk upon molten lava." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:37:47 -0500 From: "Larry O'Brien" Subject: RE: reading OK, I'll admit it, the Elric Saga by Michael Moorcock. Last time I read it I was a sophomore in High School. It's a great read. Next I'm going to read the hardbound edition of the Martian Chronicles I got for Xmas. I'm also reading "Chess The Easy Way", written in the 1940s, but still a good primer on the game. - -----Original Message----- From: ross taylor [mailto:protay2@eudoramail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:32 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: reading I'm reading _It's Only Rock and Roll_, a fiction anthology w/ a so-so title but really good stories. Earlier I read a poetry anthology called _Sweet Nothings_ which was supposedly a colletcion of poems about pop. Some good poets included, but very mainstream & the "pop" criteria seemed to be that somewhere in the poem were a couple of lines saying blah blah blah happened while the Beach Boys played on the radio IORaR is a bunch of good stories written about rock from something like an insider perspective. Authors like Madison Smartt Bell, T.C. Boyle, Jill McCorkle, Lance Olsen, & others I've never heard of but who write well & love pop. Edited by Janice Eidus & John Kastan. My favorite story read last year was "The Mirrorman Sequences" by Robin Williamson. It's basically a slightly fictionalized memoire of his pre Incredible String Band life in about 70 pages, a loose narrative but with incredible descriptions, voice, charactors, feeling, tone (and did I mention voice?) throughout. Better than his lyrics (which I like). It was in an old o.o.p. anthology called Outlaw Visions. I think it's the only prose he's written. Pity. Also reading _Blues People_ by Leroi Jones. I have major problems w/ some attitudes etc. of the Amiri Baraka that Jones turned into, but this is an important book, & in the context of 1963 his rage is right on target. But mainly there's a ton of useful insight about music & culture. A couple of things I'm always reading are Fitzgerald's Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam and the *1855* edition of Whitman's Leaves of Grass. - --- Sympathy to Natalie on her scare & Ed's sister in law on her worry. "We walk upon molten lava." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:44:15 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: stephenson On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > Have you read The Diamond Age? It's the only work > of Stephenson's I've actually liked. You might find > it more simpatico...or you might not (I can't remember). I did read Diamond Age, about a year ago. As far as Nell goes, she's a decent female character (but not very well fleshed out). Problem with Diamond Age- the end is shambolic mess. Cryptonomicon at least does a passable job of tying all the plots and subplots together- Diamond Age barely even tries, as far as I recall. Moreover, Cryptonomicon is more complex, and most of the characters are fully human rather than cardboard cut-outs of Stephenson's personal pantheon of archetypes. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:49:55 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: more stephenson On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, dmw wrote: > Re Neal Stephenson: > > I found an awful lot to like in _the diamond age_ but someone already > troubled by his treatment of female characters might want to be forewarned > that, although the novel has a very plucky female protagonist, halfway > through it there is a surpassingly nasty, hallucinatory scene of sexual > violence. I *think* he sort of justified it by the end, but your milage > might well vary. It's right at the end of a major subdivision of the > book; I suspect you could just skip ahead when you hit it and suffer mild > confusion later. That scene (or series of scenes) bothered me for a very different reason- they were conceptually uninteresting and a bad fit for the rest of the plot. Drummers on shrooms having orgies under the ocean? I can come up with no better crticism than- Wha...? What the fuck were you thinking??? It's too ridiculous to be offensive. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:04:30 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: Oophs Oohphs. When I said slashdot didn't cover sicence I was wrong. Still not sure thou that they cover the life sciences thou. Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:24:27 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: I get around DRM on 1/10/02 7:48 AM, dmw at dmw@radix.net wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Tom Clark wrote: > >> Another "service" we've talked about might work like this: >> You tell the service provider that you love Robyn Hitchcock. You wake up >> one day and see a message on your TV screen saying: "The new Soft Boys album >> has been downloaded to your jukebox. Would you like to purchase it?" >> If you answer yes, your bill is debited and the album is unlocked. It even >> contains rich content like artwork, liner notes, video clips, etc... >> Hopefully, you could also plug in a CD burner and make a hard copy. >> Would you guys be in favour of such a thing? > > Maybe. If: > A. The audio were sufficiently high quality that I felt the value was > equivalent to commercial 16bit 44Khz CDs -- or better yet, superior. I > think that means I would prefer a truly lossless format, but a I might > consider ultra-high bandwidth MP3 or equivalent (Ogg?) **IF** I honestly > couldn't hear significant degradation. > > B: It can't be a Yes/No dialog box; it needs to give me at least as much > information as I can glean from looking at a physical package in a store. > The more advance info you can give (and while Jeme's idea of sampling in a > 'locked' area of the device isn't a make or break for me, it sure would be > nice) the better Of course I was just outlining the general idea. Ideally the music would be in a high quality format, possibly even AIFF. Previewing would be mandatory, if I have anything to do with it. On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Scott Hunter McCleary wrote: > While installing OS X on one of our machines at work, I happened to be > flipping through the little booklet that came with the software and > there on the bottom of page 18, in one of the illustrations, one of > the machine users listed is Tom Clark. How nice! I'm flattered that someone in the pubs group remembers me. - -tc ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #13 *******************************