From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #11 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, January 10 2002 Volume 11 : Number 011 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Moxi and DRM (slight return) ["Poole, R. Edward" ] Re: So What's Everybody Reading? ["SIMPSON,HAMISH (A-Sonoma,ex1)" ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V11 #10 ["Poole, R. Edward" ] Re: So What's Everybody Reading? ["Melissa Higuchi" ] Re: babies [grutness@surf4nix.com] Re: NZ [grutness@surf4nix.com] Re: So What's Everybody Reading?/Missing Fegs [grutness@surf4nix.com] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #10 ["Edward of Sim" ] reading lists! [Carole Reichstein ] why read when there's TV? (joking, people) ["Poole, R. Edward" ] Re: Leggo my Feggo Tangram [Eb ] Re: iMac, uMac, we all Mac? (NeXt, cube, next desperate marketing ploy) [] Re: So What's Everybody Reading?/Missing Fegs ["Fric Chaud" ] Re: Leggo my Feggo Tangram ["Jason R. Thornton" ] NZ ["bibi gellert" ] &... ["Gary Sedgwick" ] That Tom Clark sure does get around... [shmac@ix.netcom.com (Scott Hunter] Re: That Tom Clark sure does get around... [Eb ] RE: So What's Everybody Reading? ["victorian squid" ] Re: That Tom Clark sure does get around... [Capuchin Subject: RE: Moxi and DRM (slight return) >>On 1/9/02 11:31 AM, "Tom Clark" wrote: >> Would you guys be in favour of such a thing? - -g-: >Hell yes! I'm in, as long as it isn't too obtrusive, like pop up ads on the net -- I'd be worried that such a system would result in unlimited "push" content being marketed to me that I have to constantly click "no, I don't want that." If it were more like a magazine subscription, or a record & tape club (return the card if you don't want the featured selection), or even like TiVo's "Suggestions" (based on past recording choices, new programs are recorded that you may like), that would be cool. ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:57:53 -0700 From: "SIMPSON,HAMISH (A-Sonoma,ex1)" Subject: Re: So What's Everybody Reading? nr - "Lila: An Inquiry Into Morals" Robert M Pirsig np - "The Looks or the Lifestyle?" PWEI nb - Hamish ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 13:33:20 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #10 >The Dictionary of Imaginary Places - Alberto Manguel/Gianni Gaudlupi. Weird, I just bought this a few weeks ago. It's pretty amusing... the entries are written like travel guides. In the entry for Arkham, travellers are advised that they may have an experience they will remember for the rest of their lives. Much of it is just plain plot summary, and gives away the endings of all the books. However, the authors have dug up some incredibly obscure works - all sorts of bizarre 18th-c. French imaginary travelogues and suchlike - which is quite interesting. Anyway, it's good toilet reading, which is probably more than you needed to know. I've been very lazy in my reading, just re-reading old stuff, like "The Stress of Her Regard" by Tim Powers - I met a friend of Powers when I was in Berkeley, so I thought I'd haul it out again. The diaglogue is so corny - the characters are always adding dramatic pauses to everything they say. Still, a powerful and imaginative book, and scrupulously researched. And, incidentally - Drew, are you listening? - it's also an excellent and original vampire story. I also re-read "The Practice Effect" by David Brin, which is not nearly as cool as I remembered it from when I was a kid. The style is incredibly stilted and the female characters are pretty ludicrous. The basic idea is good, but Brin seems incapable of fleshing it out. I want to try and find some books that aren't science fiction. SF is fun reading, but most of it is so lightweight (except for the greats like Dick and Le Guin). Also, I have no desire to *write* SF, so I'd like to start reading some books of the sort that I'd like to write (grubby realism - please see www.bitmine.net/~gnat/lies.html for more info). So maybe y'all can suggest some stuff... >She also had angel kisses over both eyes, which looked like pale blue >eyeshadow. My friends' baby had (and possibly still has) a strawberry mark on her forehead. Once my friend was taking her for a walk in the stroller, and a woman looked at her and said in all seriousness, "Oh, look, she has the mark of Cain." > >a huge pale hawk was sitting > >I think only ospreys are all pale. Redtails, however, are numerous >and >have pale breasts. Could you have seen one of my buddies?;-) Yes, I think it was an immature redtail, they're lighter-colored than adults. Apart from a couple of redtails, an unidentified huge grey bird on the UMich campus, and the kestrel in England (hovering above its prey like a hummingbird), I've not seen any other raptors. n. p.s. In case you were wondering, the biopsy on my enlarged lymph node came out negative, i.e. I don't have cancer. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 16:40:51 -0500 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V11 #10 >In case you were wondering, the biopsy on my enlarged lymph node came >out negative, i.e. I don't have cancer. That's wonderful! My sister-in-law just had the opposite experience, but the cancer was tiny and her prognosis is excellent. This is much much better. ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. 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To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 21:55:20 -0000 From: "Melissa Higuchi" Subject: Re: So What's Everybody Reading? the short answer is mostly trash and tolkien The Noonday Demon - Andrew Solomon about depression, stuck in intro chapter Disposable People bad fiction about a disease, Consalvo's Ulceration, that is spreading through the US. fabulous disgusting descriptions about how it just rots away the flesh. they find a vaccine but it kills of 10% of the people FOTR Tipping the Velvet - Sarah Waters Revelations: a novel of the apocalypse collection where each decade is a chapter assigned to a different author. have only got as far as the clive barker intro. high hopes for the chapter by Joe Lansdale last really good thing read was the Wasp Factory by Iain Banks. anyone out there read his sci fi stuff? still waiting for The Yellow Sign and Other Stories : The Complete Weird Tales of Robert W. Chambers to arrive. Melissa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:58:26 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Re: babies >(Alright, all infants look like Winston Churchill, but she looked >like an -adorable- Winston Churchill;-) not true! Some of them look like Mel Smith, and some look like Alfred Hitchcock! James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:03:08 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Re: NZ >On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 grutness@surf4nix.com wrote: > >> Anything I say about NZ might be a tad biased. I like it here. It would be >> fair to say that it's: Relatively friendly, easygoing, tolerant people. >> Relatively progressive, left-of-centre politics. Relatively safe, educated, >> and egalitarian (with regards race, gender, religion, and sexual >> orientation). Relatively good standard of living. Relatively awesome >> scenery. > >Well, that's about 300 times better than the place I'm living. And I'm >living in the most left-of-center city in the country, supposedly. Of >course, left-of-center here doesn't mean much. They still sic the riot >cops on you when you go out to greet the "president" with a peaceful >march/demonstration. well we're far from perfect. Those 'relatively's are important ones. As far as the politics are concerned, we used to be as socialist as your average Scandinavian parliament, but there was a huge market-based economic shift in the 80s (your Reaganomics and Britain's Thatcher years were mirrored with our Rogernomics, and the country's still recovering). But the politicians who led that change were kicked out of their party and formed their own (which currently has about 5% support). The current government is very centrist by NZ standards, some way to the left of Blair and you'd need binoculars to see Bush's position. And the Greens are an active voice in government, too, which helps. This city's the country's most left-of-centre, too. Since WWII Dunedin's three electorates have elected National (=UK Conservative) MPs for a grand total of two terms aggregate. The other 50 0or so aggregate terms have all had Labour MPs As far as the riot police business is concerned they're used as a defensive shield not attacking weapon. And I can't remember the last time they were used to protect a local politician from a demonstration. Hell, last time I saw the Prime Minister I went up and spoke to her! Police here (except for the Armed Offenders Squad) don't normally carry guns, either (and neither do the general population). We do have a moderately poor crime rate with some types of crime, but a murder anywhere in the country will still be enough to make the TV news bulletins. Our standard of living is lower than the US average, but without the huge extremes - our rich aren't nearly as rich, our poor aren't nearly as poor - but we do have very rich who couldn't care less about 'the ordinary people' and we do have soup kitchens, and we do have urban crime, so we're no utopia. As for the scenery though, see LOTR :) Or some of the pics on my websie, for that matter... Natalie's right, BTW, the immigration laws are pretty strict. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:17:07 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Re: So What's Everybody Reading?/Missing Fegs Kua korerotia Mike Wells: > I'll go first... Well, I've finally finished wading through Hofstadter's "Godel Escher Bach", which I loved except for all the number theory stuff which I found tedious In the partly read pile I currently have: Orsinian Tales (Ursula le Guin) A year with swollen appendices (Brian Eno) * The Koran (Rodwell trans) * The chess mysteries of Sherlock Holmes (Raymond Smullyan) * Brunel's Britain (Derrick Beckett) Celebrating the southern seasons: Rituals for Aotearoa (Juliet Batten) The Beatles anthology The unstrung harp (Edward Gorey) * up soon: Counting the Beat: A history of New Zealand song (Gordon Spittle) My Mum's autobiography(!) Whatever art book I grab next from the library those marked with a * I'm re-reading. The others are firsts for me. - --- >> I've got a post from Mark Gloster dated Wed, 12 >> Dec 2001 09:41:59 -0800. > >so it it only me who's getting bounced messages from him? nope, I couldn't get through with a Christmas message. I'm still looking for Jonathan Moren, too. And has Ross Overbury disappeared from the list sometime without me noticing? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:20:42 -0000 From: "Edward of Sim" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #10 > Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 20:22:22 +0000 > From: "Redtailed Hawk" > Subject: Return of Fegtopia! > > > As to the casting of the immortal Feggoship(outch) I have come up with a > fair method. In every scene every character is played by a different actor. > We'll keep the costumes the same so there's no confusion(heh.) I think this is known as the Ed Wood Theory of Casting! +x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+ Edward of Sim a Californian in Lancashire my band: http://www.mp3.com/VirginTwin Spiritual psychedelic power-folk ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 17:30:20 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: I Support the NZ Stand Earlier, Kay on Crows-- >they are the high geeks of the bird world. >Who knows what would happen if you gave one a computer;-) He'd drop bits of roadkill in the keyboard. - --- NZ-- I too was seriously into moving there in the early 80s when sick of the nuclear mess. A friend was a Maitre'd w/ DC's Ridgewells Catering (cooking thread?) who got to know the NZ Ambassador & kept hoping that would make it easier for us (no dice). My friend now lives in Takoma Park, Maryland, another self- proclaimed nuclear free zone. (At the time I lived in Adams-Morgan, motto: "U.S. Out of Adams-Morgan!") My understanding is that Australia is cracking down real hard on web stuff they don't like (mostly porn) ... but they have legal bordellos ...? My only quibble w/ NZ is someone named Denis Dutton. He runs the Arts & Letters Daily / Sci-Tech Daily web pages, actually interesting daily pages of links from usually tone-y sources, but short on the arts & IMO right- leaning. Funny how over a year or two you can feel you detect strong bias in just a page of links. (Dutton teaches in NZ). Since I don't believe unbiased journalism exists, I'm looking for something similar that goes left -- any suggestions? - --- Dancing about attributions-- I've always heard it was Thelonious Monk. I asked some literary jazzbos & the consensus was the quote was derrived from the SATs, as in-- "gravel is to fudge as poetry is to ______ (a) dwarf tossing (b) how to put your budgie down (c) out-of-the-body trouble (d) body doubles" - --- Chris Gross-- >Can I be Best Boy? I always thought that sounded attractive. I'd like to see my credit be: Ross Taylor -- Penguin Wrangler Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 14:35:02 -0800 (PST) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: reading lists! I just finished reading Anthony Bourdain's new book, "A Cooks' Tour," where he describes making a fool of himself all over the world in search of the "perfect meal" (which doesn't really exist). He eats haggis and deep fried Mars candy bars in Scotland, eats the still-beating heart of a cobra, samples bowls of wonderful "pho" in Vietnam (his descriptions of the stuff made my mouth water; I can't believe I've never tried it!), watches pigs being killed for his dinner in Mexico....this book is definitely NOT for vegetarians. Yes, he felt bad for the pig. I don't have cable, but I'm almost tempted to get it just to watch Bourdain on the Food Network. Ooh, what guilty pleasure. Good thing I'm stubbornly cheap. Why am I always hungry? Sheesh. carole ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 17:45:40 -0500 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: why read when there's TV? (joking, people) Carole: >I just finished reading Anthony Bourdain's new book, "A Cooks' Tour," >where he describes making a fool of himself all over the world in search >of the "perfect meal" (which doesn't really exist). ... While "researching" for this book, he took along a digital camcorder and the results (after heavy editing, of course) have become a Food Network show ("A Cook's Tour With Anthony Bourdain" I believe). The first ep. was this week, I think -- and it was quite enjoyable. ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 22:51:26 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: Leggo my Feggo Tangram Hmmm--Im enjoying the conceit of different Fegs playing the same roles. It makes me wonder--has a movie ever done this? Had multiple actors for one part? I'm not talking different characters whose boundries get mixed up. I mean several similar-looking but not identical actors doing the same part(sorta an anti-Alec Guiness/Peter Sellers role.) This does sound alittle like sophmore psych, but it might be interesting as a way of showing different facets within a single being. Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:02:16 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Leggo my Feggo Tangram >It makes me wonder--has a movie ever done this? Had multiple actors >for one part? "That Obscure Object of Desire" has two female actresses playing the title role in alternating scenes. I suppose you also could say this about "Plan 9 From Outer Space," if you count the fake Bela. Seems like I've seen another film which does this, but its title escapes me. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:06:59 -0500 From: "Fric Chaud" Subject: Re: iMac, uMac, we all Mac? (NeXt, cube, next desperate marketing ploy) On 9 Jan 2002, at 11:38, Ken Weingold wrote: > > > > To paraphrase the BBC-online's item on the new iMac: "the last few > > years have seen a largely unwarranted marketing focus on raw > > processor speed measured in megahertz. On that measure Intel's chips > > are rated up to twice as fast, despite benchmarks which suggest that > > in practical use they do not perform at anywhere near that level." BBC. That's some sort of Benchmark site, or an organisation of computer experts, right? > > Yeah, the G4 chips do seem to be on par with Intel chips rated at much > higher MHz ratings OK, I'm ready to become a believer. Point me to the benchmarks that will show me the way, and I'll buy one of those decals with Calvin peeing on a pile of corporate symbols representing AMD, Intel, SiS, VIA, NVidia, Asus, Abit, Soyo, Shuttle, SuperMicro, Gigabyte, and all those companies who make pieces that when assembled, Macheads invariably call Wintel. Where are they? - -- Fric Chaud ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:11:05 -0500 From: "Fric Chaud" Subject: Re: So What's Everybody Reading?/Missing Fegs Shakespeare: The Invention of the Human - Harold Bloom in which Bloom asserts that 1 Shakespeare page is approximately 1.3 pages of Marlowe. - -- Fric Chaud ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 16:14:01 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: one feg to rule them all At 08:41 AM 1/9/2002 -0800, Natalie Jane wrote: >I believe Bayard has traditionally been cast as Gandalf in "Lord of the >Fegs." Many people have claimed I resemble a hobbit (short, stocky, curly >hair, penchant for over-eating). Oh, good grief. I think that would make me a hobbit too. My feet are definitely not large and hairy enough, though. Jason, still recovering from seeing Social Distortion at the Disneyland money-pit which is the Anaheim House of Blues last night... "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 16:18:01 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Leggo my Feggo Tangram >At 10:51 PM 1/9/2002 +0000, Redtailed Hawk wrote: >Hmmm--Im enjoying the conceit of different Fegs playing the same roles. It >makes me wonder--has a movie ever done this? Had multiple actors for one part? >I'm not talking different characters whose boundries get mixed up. I mean >several similar-looking but not identical actors doing the same part(sorta >an anti-Alec Guiness/Peter Sellers role.) This does sound alittle like >sophmore psych, but it might be interesting as a way of showing different >facets within a single being. This might be a little too obvious, but a number of films have featured different actors playing the same character at different ages. Off the top of my head, however, I can't think of a movie where different actors play the same "part" within the same general time period. POSSIBLE SPOILER ALERT-- Maybe "Fight Club"? "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 20:28:16 -0500 From: "bibi gellert" Subject: NZ I too, wanted to move to NZ at one point-what put me off was the cost of the visa-it was something like 800 dollars all told, and I was worried about supporting myself while I job hunted. Still, it is my fondest wish to make it there one day, and one day, by God, I will. I want to see some shows, walk on the beaches-Takapuna, Bethells, Piha-see Lion rock, tour the vineyards on the north and south islands, see Katherine Mansfield's house in Wellington, the whales off Kaikoura, Mt. Taranaki, lake Taupo, the hot springs at Rotorua (we went to the hot springs, where the tourists flock) the fiords in the south, Able Tasman park, etc, etc, etc. I agree with Nat-all the kiwi men I've met have been quite cute, and have the most wonderful dry sense of humour. What with the wine, the scenery, the music, the literature, the film, the organic farming and Mikey Havoc in the morning, what else could you ask for? :) Bibi --- bibigellert@earthlink.net--- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 01:49:48 -0000 From: "Gary Sedgwick" Subject: &... >the garage in london is >listing robyn as playing there on friday, january 25th at 8pm, with support >by matt keating. tickets are #12 in advance. > >also, i see that grant lee phillips is doing the two prior nights at the >garage, so i wouldn't be surprised if robyn made a surprise appearance on >the 24th (seeing that he's at the pressure point in brighton on the 23rd). > >woj Noticed the ad in Time Out today, which displays "Robyn Hitchcock &...". So I guess you could be right! I haven't been keeping up with the list at all for ages... 2001 for some reason was just the worst year I could have expected, and for so many other people I know too. I've got approaching 500 unread digests sitting on my machine (is this a record?)! So, anyone I've lost contact with (in particular, branscombe if you're still here), or going to the gig on the 25th, do drop me an e-mail. Gary ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 21:34:15 -0500 From: shmac@ix.netcom.com (Scott Hunter McCleary) Subject: That Tom Clark sure does get around... While installing OS X on one of our machines at work, I happened to be flipping through the little booklet that came with the software and there on the bottom of page 18, in one of the illustrations, one of the machine users listed is Tom Clark. Coincidence? YOU decide. Pretty sneaky. ;-) NP: Pere Ubu, Dub Housing (still bummed about Dave Thomas ;-)) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 18:40:23 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: That Tom Clark sure does get around... >NP: Pere Ubu, Dub Housing (still bummed about Dave Thomas ;-)) Don't be bummed...there will be SCTV reruns around to comfort you. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2002 18:49:58 -0800 From: "victorian squid" Subject: RE: So What's Everybody Reading? On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:30:44 Poole, R. Edward wrote: >just saw the first ep. last night and it was very entertaining. >Tony seems to be the Richard Hell of the food world I bet he'd really puff up like a blowfish if you told him that. You could probably get even more brownie points by telling him he's the Hunter S. Thompson. The book was interesting and sometimes very funny, but on the whole he tried way too hard to be Mr. Shocking Macho Punk Rock Chef. I think he must be around really prissy people a lot, because every so-called "shocking" opinion or factoid really wasn't all that shocking. So you think Emeril's annoying? You don't like vegetarians? Restaurant kitchens usually aren't spotless and germ-free? Wow. Pretty rebellious there. Bet lots of little old ladies from Dubuque are fainting dead away as we speak :). loveonya, susan P.S. Currently reading: Q- The Autobiography of Quincy Jones. Next in line: "The Map That Changed The World"- Simon Winchester Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:45:58 -0500 From: "madcowan" Subject: RE: vernixal?/birds=fegchronicity This article about Ulva Island's birds was on All Things Considered the other day, http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/atc/20020108.atc.15.ram It's almost as if they were reading this list! Cheers, Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 21:06:14 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: That Tom Clark sure does get around... On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Scott Hunter McCleary wrote: > While installing OS X on one of our machines at work, I happened to be > flipping through the little booklet that came with the software and > there on the bottom of page 18, in one of the illustrations, one of > the machine users listed is Tom Clark. I worked, for a time, at an advertising agency. It was standard practice to use agency employees as the names in any commercials or print ads that showed names in print. This was done, I was told, for legal reasons. If someone tried to sue (or make some other stink), saying, "I'm Phil Johnson and don't like being used for your commercial interests!", the agency attorneys can say, "No no, we meant Phil Johnson in Print Production on the third floor." Just so's you know. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 21:11:00 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: iMac, uMac, we all Mac? (NeXt, cube, next desperate marketing ploy) On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Fric Chaud wrote: > Point me to the benchmarks that will show me the way, and I'll buy one > of those decals with Calvin peeing on a pile of corporate symbols > representing AMD, Intel, SiS, VIA, NVidia, Asus, Abit, Soyo, Shuttle, > SuperMicro, Gigabyte, and all those companies who make pieces that > when assembled, Macheads invariably call Wintel. Um, you might be interested to note that NVidia and many other manufacturers provide key components for Apple systems. And if your computer runs an operating system from Redmond and executes an ix86 instruction set, it's Wintel (and, therefore, one of the legion of binary compatible machines that provide the breeding ground for worms, virii and invasive or destructive code spreading itself along public networks). Sorry. > Where are they? Benchmarks mean diddley. Use it for your common tasks and see if it's preferable. If not, don't use it anymore. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #11 *******************************