From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #4 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, January 5 2002 Volume 11 : Number 004 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Chicken In A Watermelon [steve ] RE: Chicken In A Watermelon ["Poole, R. Edward" ] birds ["ross taylor" ] Dragon, Chills, Birds [grutness@surf4nix.com] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #3 ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: birds [steve ] Re: Grammy nominations [Eb ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #3 [] News: Elliott pulls a Beck [Eb ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #3 [Glen Uber ] Re: speaking of dogs [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Grammy nominations [steve ] Re: speaking of dogs [steve ] Re: Grammy nominations [Eb ] Re: speaking of dogs [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: speaking of dogs [steve ] Re: speaking of dogs [Eb ] Re: Movies, Music, Staves [Sebastian Hagedorn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:20:44 -0600 From: steve Subject: Chicken In A Watermelon Today's the official release date for the special edition Buckaroo Banzai DVD, although it seems that many retailers put it out early. You can impress your friends by paring BB with Big Trouble In Little China for a bitchin' double feature. Not only is BB one of the greatest films ever, the DVD is cheap - lists for $20 and I picked it up at the local (non-themed) Fry's last night for $15. I'm sure everybody will be running right out, so here's some hidden bits - > 1) Go to the Special Features menu, page 1, and access the list of > Deleted > Scenes, Page 1. While looking at the first list of 8 of the 14 deleted > scenes, maneuver to highlight the [SPECIAL FEATURES] box at the bottom > middle > of the screen. Then push Left to highlight the Watermelon. Press Enter > now > and a text screen comes up: a newspaper article about Perfect Tommy's > experiment with dropping watermelons from the sky to relieve world > famine. > Press the [More -> ] box at the bottom to access the 2nd page, and go > on to > the 2nd Easter Egg. > > 2) On the 2nd page of the news article, on the bottom left you will > see a > "BB" (Buckaroo Banzai) logo. Move the cursor Right to the [ <- Back] > box and > then Up to the "BB" logo and press enter. You will then see a brief > interview > about the whole watermelon question, and a bit about a recipe for > "Chicken in > a Watermelon". > > 3) Finally, return to the main Special features menu and go to Page 2. > Access the area called "Banzai Institute Archives". On the bottom left > you > will see another "BB" logo, this time in a circular seal. Go down to the > [Special Features] box at the bottom right of the screen, and then move > the > cursor Right to highlight the Seal. Pressing Enter while here will > display > two alternate Cover Art Inserts for the Buckaroo Banzai DVD that were > discarded prior to selecting the one used. Interestingly, neither of > the two > displayed are the one that MGM circulated just before upgrading the > Buckaroo > Banzai DVD to "Special Edition" status and delaying it's release until > Jan. > 2002; so there's at least one more alternate DVD cover not shown in this > Easter Egg. > > 4) At the top of the main menu are three small blueprints of the Jet > Car. > Highlight the middle one, hit enter, and you'll be treated to a series > of > quotes from the movie and other sources. To the left of the Jet Car > blueprints is a small button. Highlight that, hit enter, and you'll get > to > see 36 pages of alternate dvd menu designs. - - Steve __________ If anyone has ever benefited from what Bush has called "the bigotry of soft expectations," it's George W. Bush himself. - Mark Crispin Miller ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:27:15 -0500 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: RE: Chicken In A Watermelon I got in on Wednesday -- and I'm (surprising myself) lukewarm on the whole affair. On the one hand, I love the movie, and have been waiting for this day since the advent of DVD technology. On the other hand, W.D. Richter (the director) affects the annoying conceit that the Bonzai Institute is "real" and his film was a "docudrama" of actual events. So silly. This plays out in both the commentary track and the "making of" bonus materials. Still, the bottom line is that, for $15, you can now own a very nice looking (and sounding) edition of a fantastic film, so don't hesitate to pick one up. - -----Original Message----- From: steve [mailto:steveschiavo@mac.com] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:21 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Chicken In A Watermelon Today's the official release date for the special edition Buckaroo Banzai DVD, although it seems that many retailers put it out early. You can impress your friends by paring BB with Big Trouble In Little China for a bitchin' double feature. Not only is BB one of the greatest films ever, the DVD is cheap - lists for $20 and I picked it up at the local (non-themed) Fry's last night for $15. I'm sure everybody will be running right out, so here's some hidden bits - > 1) Go to the Special Features menu, page 1, and access the list of > Deleted > Scenes, Page 1. While looking at the first list of 8 of the 14 deleted > scenes, maneuver to highlight the [SPECIAL FEATURES] box at the bottom > middle > of the screen. Then push Left to highlight the Watermelon. Press Enter > now > and a text screen comes up: a newspaper article about Perfect Tommy's > experiment with dropping watermelons from the sky to relieve world > famine. > Press the [More -> ] box at the bottom to access the 2nd page, and go > on to > the 2nd Easter Egg. > > 2) On the 2nd page of the news article, on the bottom left you will > see a > "BB" (Buckaroo Banzai) logo. Move the cursor Right to the [ <- Back] > box and > then Up to the "BB" logo and press enter. You will then see a brief > interview > about the whole watermelon question, and a bit about a recipe for > "Chicken in > a Watermelon". > > 3) Finally, return to the main Special features menu and go to Page 2. > Access the area called "Banzai Institute Archives". On the bottom left > you > will see another "BB" logo, this time in a circular seal. Go down to the > [Special Features] box at the bottom right of the screen, and then move > the > cursor Right to highlight the Seal. Pressing Enter while here will > display > two alternate Cover Art Inserts for the Buckaroo Banzai DVD that were > discarded prior to selecting the one used. Interestingly, neither of > the two > displayed are the one that MGM circulated just before upgrading the > Buckaroo > Banzai DVD to "Special Edition" status and delaying it's release until > Jan. > 2002; so there's at least one more alternate DVD cover not shown in this > Easter Egg. > > 4) At the top of the main menu are three small blueprints of the Jet > Car. > Highlight the middle one, hit enter, and you'll be treated to a series > of > quotes from the movie and other sources. To the left of the Jet Car > blueprints is a small button. Highlight that, hit enter, and you'll get > to > see 36 pages of alternate dvd menu designs. - - Steve __________ If anyone has ever benefited from what Bush has called "the bigotry of soft expectations," it's George W. 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To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 17:52:13 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: birds -- I saw a great sight, a once in a lifetime probably. A crane, with a fish in it's mouth swooped right by us. Followed closely by a bald eagle. And right behind the eagle, a crow. That's just what I mean! A crow never knows when he's out of place. No bird w/ a sense of cool would want to come on after an eagle ... - --- Kay/Morris-- I also like that he wasn't entirely a stud, I think his wife was pretty steadily screwing Rossetti. Or have I got that mixed? All this film talk is of course now on topic since the list is devoted to a film star. - --- Recently have been struck by how much Dancing On God's Thumb reminds me of Tom Verlaine at that time -- the heavy-metal-reggae rhythm, like There's A Reason on 1981's Dreamtime, even some vibratoed guitar. Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 12:07:58 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Dragon, Chills, Birds >>yeah, a bit. Back at that time the NZ music scene was dominated by >Split >>Enz and a bunch of bands that were sort of more advanced >versions of the >>pub rock ideal (Dragon, Th'Dudes)... > >I thought Dragon were Australian. Wasn't Terry Chambers a member, after he >left XTC and moved to Australia? Dragon started their career in Auckland in 1974, and moved to Australia in '76. Like Canadian bands that head south to find fame, many kiwi acts end up in Oz where they are regarded as 'Australian'. And yes, Terry Chambers was a member for a while. >>Martin has always been a big fan of - as his song says - Randy >>Newman, Scott Walker, Brian Wilson, Syd Barrett, and Nick Drake. > >I hear a lot of Velvets in that early stuff. the one consistent thread in "the Dunedin sound" is the VU influence. >I'm working on Disc 2 of the box set now, which has a lot of radio sessions >and the like. I'm not very familiar with the Chills' pre-"Submarine Bells" >material so this stuff is a revelation. do yourself a favour and find a copy of the compilation "Kaleidoscope World"! >She can take my crazy birds! The red-winged bastards in the >garden make nesting season a misery for humans by dive-bombing >anybody who enters "their" territory. and she can have the song thrush that wakes me up regularly at dawn. Which at the moment is about 5.30. I swear it's singing "poochie, poochie, poochie, put me down, put me down, put me down!" >Is it true what they say about raw rice? naw, that's "Is it true what they say about Dixie". >Crows are very unbirdlike. They don't have the >instinctive poise of other birds, almost as if >they've been infected by something like >consciousness. A crow will try to land on a >small branch & almost demolish it, much to his >consternation. I've seen a crow bump into a >tree. I've seen tons of birds crash into glass, >but a tree? This makes them very un-mythic to >me. corvids are indeed a peculiar bunch (sadly a bunch that is almost totally absent from NZ). But if you want weird, try parrots. Here in NZ we have an alpine parrot called the kea which is - I kid you not - comparable to some primates in intelligence. Driving into the mountains can be a hazard, partly because of these creatures that recognise tourists as a major source of entertainment and a provider of food. If you slow your car down to pull in beside the road, these birds will land on the car roof before you stop, so as to be first on the scene for any stray munchies. When they're bored they play games - a group of them will fly together. One will fly up higher with a stick in its beak, and will drop it. Another of them will grab the stick in midair and then ascend to the top position. It'll drop the stick, and so on. Other popular kea entertainments include removing anything rubbery from cars - windscreen wipers, window surrounds... further reading: or, if you prefer an official-type site: I still miss the barn owls that lived in the big thatched-roofed building opposite where I lived in the UK, though... James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 15:11:29 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #3 >Yes I did, and it was delicious! >Just kidding. I was pretty amazed that the whole process was not as >gory >as I expected. Birth *can* be gory, I'm glad Joelle's wasn't too bad. Was there plenty of vernix? (a white cheesy substance which protects the baby's skin from amniotic fluid) >A blackbird pair usually follow me round while I garden, and there >are >bellbirds, waxeyes, finches, warblers, the odd kereru, and of >course >starlings, spadgers, and dunnocks. Hey, they have dunnocks in New Zealand? Neat. I saw one in England one time - the NZ ones must be imports. In England, I also saw wagtails, magpies, a kestrel, moorhens, snow geese, barnacle geese, a sheldrake, jackdaws, black-headed gulls, and an English robin, which looks nothing like an American robin. I used to be a keen birdwatcher, and I still get a thrill from seeing exotic or unfamiliar birds. Unfortunately, in Portland, the only interesting birds I've seen have been Steller's jays and scrub jays, and some terns at the beach. I wish I could see birds of prey more often. Alas, I have never seen an owl. My sister gave me a realistic toy owl for Hanukah, though. Incidentally, in my rant against annoying dog owners, I left out their biggest crime, which is taking their damn dogs with them *everywhere.* I've been to parties where people brought dogs, and a friend of mine has played at shows where people brought dogs. I appreciate that dogs like to get out and about, but you know, not everyone *likes* dogs - some people are allergic to them, some are even scared of them - and inflicting them on strangers is just plain rude. Your dog is not going to languish and die if you leave it at home for one night. Jeez. And finally, this past holiday season I've seen *two* depictions of "The 12 Days of Christmas" which feature a quail (complete with hmuh) instead of a partridge, sitting in the pear tree. What's up with this? Insufficient ornithological knowledge or more evidence of Quailspiracy?? n. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:43:03 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: birds On Friday, January 4, 2002, at 04:52 PM, ross taylor wrote: > That's just what I mean! A crow never knows > when he's out of place. No bird w/ a sense of > cool would want to come on after an eagle ... Yeah, but the crow was probably intent on harassing the eagle. You can see them getting after hawks around here any old day. - - Steve __________ Misadvised by a frustrated and panic-stricken attorney general, a president of the United States has just assumed what amounts to dictatorial power to jail or execute aliens. - William Safire ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:29:11 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Grammy nominations >Quail: >Though -- the U2 album was released last year! I forget the exact period of eligibility, but I believe releases from approximately the last three months of 2000 are still eligible. Note that the nominated PJ Harvey and OutKast albums are from 2000 too, among others. >The classical category holds no surprises, and actually has a few >good selections -- some very modern works are in categories that are >normally dominated by traditional works -- Schoenberg, Webern, >Varese, Boulez, Ligeti, Tan Dun, Rouse, Messiaen.... Nice. Yes, I was pleasantly surprised to see those names popping up. I love dogs, and don't mind seeing them in public. I *do* get angry when I spot people with dogs at outdoor rock concerts -- c'mon folks, dogs have more sensitive ears than you and me! (And I'm not a cat fan at all, which you could probably predict.) Another sci-fi/comic-oriented film fan: >Not only is [Buckaroo Banzai] one of the greatest films ever Oh PLEASE. Even *that* silly material could have been a stronger film with a less confused screenplay/director. Eb, who really needs to dig more into 20th-century classical music, one of these years now: closet-cleaning ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:26:49 -0800 (PST) From: Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #3 gNat: > Birth *can* be gory, I'm glad Joelle's wasn't too bad. Was there > plenty of vernix? (a white cheesy substance which protects the baby's > skin from amniotic fluid) > Not too much really. I was surprised because Coleen had to have a C-section (12 hours into an induced labor and never dilating past 3cm, plus her ob-gyn had a plane to catch - grrr.....). I thought "C" babies usually had more goop on them. More gNat: > Incidentally, in my rant against annoying dog owners, I left out their > biggest crime, which is taking their damn dogs with them *everywhere.* > I've been to parties where people brought dogs, and a friend of mine > has played at shows where people brought dogs. Reminds me of the story about Blue Cheer being the loudest band around. Their claim to fame was that they played so loud they killed a dog. - -t "let's get this overwith, I tee off in an hour!" c p.s. got my iPod today! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:55:37 -0800 From: Eb Subject: News: Elliott pulls a Beck ROLLING STONE For his forthcoming follow-up to 2000's Figure 8, noted singer-songwriter and former Oscar nominee Elliott Smith will return to the underground well from which he sprang. In an unorthodox move, Smith's label, Dreamworks, has agreed to allow him to release the tentatively titled titled From the Basement on the Hill via the independent imprint of his choice. Smith hasn't yet chosen a label, but he hopes the album will be on shelves this spring. Smith's management says the decision to seek an alternate home for his sixth album reflects his present disillusionment with the state of majors in general, not just Dreamworks, which he's called home since 1998. (Smith himself refused comment for this piece.) Before Dreamworks, Smith recorded for indies Kill Rock Stars and Cavity Search. While certain high-profile acts, most notably Beck, occasionally ink contracts allowing for indie one-offs, Smith's agreement with Dreamworks was exclusive. At the conclusion of the cycle for his next album, Smith is expected to return to the major. Smith is recording From the Basement on the Hill in Los Angeles on his own dime. He's already asked the Flaming Lips' Steven Drozd and Beachwood Sparks' Aaron Sperske to guest on a few songs. Producer/engineer David McConnell (the Call, Andy Prieboy) is contributing to the sessions, which would explain Smith's guest spot on Blue Swan Orchestra, the forthcoming debut disc from McConnell's own Goldenboy (on which frequent Smith sideman Shon Sullivan also sings and plays guitar). Among the songs expected to make Smith's new album are "Shooting Star" and "Little One," which the singer road-tested during his recent West Coast shows. In February, Smith will perform at London's Royal Festival Hall as part of MOJO magazine's 100th issue celebration. GREG HELLER (January 3, 2002) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 17:56:09 -0800 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #3 On 1/4/02 3:11 PM, "Natalie Jane" wrote: > Incidentally, in my rant against annoying dog owners, I left out their > biggest crime, which is taking their damn dogs with them *everywhere.* I've > been to parties where people brought dogs, and a friend of mine has played > at shows where people brought dogs. I appreciate that dogs like to get out > and about, but you know, not everyone *likes* dogs - some people are > allergic to them, some are even scared of them - and inflicting them on > strangers is just plain rude. Your dog is not going to languish and die if > you leave it at home for one night. Jeez. I know it's not a popular opinion to hold, but I've said the very same things -- to the syllable -- about children. You know, Gnat, you'd feel differently if you had one of your own. - -- Cheers! - -g- "Children are like poems: They're beautiful to their creator. But to other people, they're silly and irritating." - --Doug Stanhope ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:33:01 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: speaking of dogs On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, lj lindhurst wrote: > I just heard on the news that Bill Clinton's dog Buddy died. He got > hit by a car. But who was driving? Just what has Kenneth Starr been up to lately? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::[clever or pithy quote]:: __[source of quote]__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:53:48 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Grammy nominations > Another sci-fi/comic-oriented film fan: >> Not only is [Buckaroo Banzai] one of the greatest films ever On Friday, January 4, 2002, at 07:29 PM, Eb wrote: > Oh PLEASE. Even *that* silly material could have been a > stronger film with a less confused screenplay/director. Maybe dog-lovers just can't grok it. - - Steve __________ The United States is exploring the development of a 'space-bomber' which could destroy targets on the other side of the world within 30 minutes. - Ed Vulliamy, The Observer ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 20:55:01 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: speaking of dogs >> I just heard on the news that Bill Clinton's dog Buddy died. He got >> hit by a car. On Friday, January 4, 2002, at 08:33 PM, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > But who was driving? Ken Olson, I bet. We know Barbara couldn't make it. - - Steve __________ Pat Robertson's resignation this month as president of the Christian Coalition confirmed the ascendance of a new leader of the religious right in America: George W. Bush. - Dana Milbank ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 19:05:02 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Grammy nominations >>Oh PLEASE. Even *that* silly material could have been a >>stronger film with a less confused screenplay/director. > >Maybe dog-lovers just can't grok it. Oh, goody. The ol' "You just don't 'get it'" argument. Eb, currently auditing the Audities list, so beware ;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 22:19:31 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: speaking of dogs steve wrote: >>> I just heard on the news that Bill Clinton's dog Buddy died. He >>> got hit by a car. > > Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > >> But who was driving? > > Ken Olson, I bet. We know Barbara couldn't make it. actually, i think his name is theodore besides, we all know it was linda tripp behind the wheel.. > Pat Robertson's resignation this month as president of the Christian > Coalition confirmed the ascendance of a new leader of the religious > right in America: George W. Bush. - Dana Milbank ===== "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy . Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:45:44 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: speaking of dogs On Saturday, January 5, 2002, at 12:19 AM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: >> Ken Olson, I bet. We know Barbara couldn't make it. > > actually, i think his name is theodore Oops, yes it's Ted. > besides, we all know it was linda tripp behind the wheel.. Grover Norquist probably held a raffle to decide which lucky Clinton hater got to do in poor Buddy. - - Steve __________ Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse, the bumbling, tongue-tied Dick Armey announces his retirement as House majority leader and the shrewd, malevolent Tom DeLay, now Republican whip, moves quickly-and probably successfully-to succeed him. - Cragg Hines, Houston Chronicle ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2002 00:04:47 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: speaking of dogs >besides, we all know it was linda tripp behind the wheel.. You sure it wasn't Eddie? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 13:02:57 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Movies, Music, Staves - -- Eb is rumored to have mumbled on Mittwoch, 2. Januar 2002 13:14 Uhr -0800 regarding Re: Movies, Music, Staves: > I don't recall ever appreciating a Howard Shore soundtrack before, and > this film was no different. I love the soundtrack for "Silence Of the Lambs"! I think it's one major reason why that movie works so well. The LOTR soundtrack was pretty awful, though. Cheers, Sebastian PS: I got DSL (with a flat rate) today... :-) - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ Winter is coming. [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2002 23:25:55 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: Black Dows and White Cogs James: >One of those rare occasions when Quailie and I are exact opposites, >given >his comment (although I agree about the French!): I believe we all agree about the French;-) - ------------------------------------------------- Nat: >But worse than dogs are dog owners who leave their beasts' stinking feces lying about, and babble ceaselessly >abouttheir creatures given the slightest opportunity. Ahhh, you mean you don't want to hear about how in the park Corey reduced a Great Pyranees to wimphering ...Or the great 5 dog break-out ... . Darn! - --------------------------------------- Friccy: >All I want to do is tend my >garden! Didn't a wise man say that? >I have two. The younger one speaks much more clearly than the >other. Should I be concerned? Well, all depends what they're saying. Neither ones named Sam, right? - ------------------------------------ Ross: >Crows are very unbirdlike. We have murders of them around here. We're on a ridge over a gorge, plus our Norwegian Spruce is the highest tree around--hence a good vantage point. My husband swears there is a crow's nest in it--thou I haven't seen it. But crows I have seen and heard. The have very varied calls besides the usual cawing. When they sun themselves its a neat sight, all their chest feathers ruffle out and they make this contented clicking sound. They're one of those species, like dolphins and elephants, who really do seem to talk to each other. Have never seen one fly into a tree thou. Perhaps, with their intelligence and lack of finesse they are the high geeks of the bird world. Who knows what would happen if you gave one a computer;-) I once saw 4 or 5 crows route a larger hawk out of a tree but I've also seen two songbirds drive a crow away from their nest. Teamwork seems to be the source of streangth in any species. When the local racoon succesfully tips our trash cans over, the crows think they've died and gone to heaven. For years my husband was a big hawkwatcher and we'd journey to Hawk Mountain or Cape May Point for the migration. Hawks and eagles are pretty amazing, as are peregrine falcons. - ------------------------------------------ In downloading from Morpheus I sometimes pick up stuff thou I dont know what it is. I have tracks by "His Name is Alive" and the "Skydiggers." Who are these guys? Kay All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed. Sean O'Casey _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #4 ******************************