From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #480 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, December 31 2001 Volume 10 : Number 480 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: "Ivy" [glen uber ] another reap...or God, I'm so old! [Jill Brand ] Re: the idiot and the oddity [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: another reap...or God, I'm so old! ["Fric Chaud" ] Giving in [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 18:23:21 -0700 From: glen uber Subject: Re: "Ivy" >do you mean there was a song played before Wreck of the Arthur Lee that's >not listed in robynbase, or are you thinking of WotAL? There was definitely a song before WotAL. - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 23:34:23 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: another reap...or God, I'm so old! Someone wrote: "Could this be the origin of the Loud Family's name? Or should that question be filed under "Duh!" and quietly forgotten?" Well, I've seen the Loud Family mentioned on the feglist a few times, and I assumed that everyone was talking about Pat and company. I never knew that there was a bay area band. Just wait till you guys pass forty... And James wrote: " Much like I'd imaging Brooklynese is in the US." Well, now, we trolley dodgers don't need anyone else to recognize our dialect as a language. We do it all by ourselves. My college German professor used to introduce me to people as "Jill Brand, my trilingual student. She speaks English, German, and Brooklyn." My accent was never very strong, and it has lost itself over time and place, but an episode of Welcome Back, Kotter sure brings back memories. Jill, who will be posting a BIG computer question tomorrow, and who will be hoping for the help of Ken W. and others of his ilk, brainpower, and training ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 22:36:55 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: the idiot and the oddity On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > > From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey > > > On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, ross taylor wrote: > > > >> her before she croaked. It was fun & memorable, > >> but I still think there's a huge disconnect > >> where a big percentage of TV end-product is > > > > Okay - nothing personal; lots of folks use this - but I don't quite get > > the distinction between "a huge disconnection where..." and the > > buzzword-friendly usage above. > > Is it even "proper" English to use the word "disconnection" that way? Well, I wasn't rephrasing the whole sentence - I was only questioning what, if any, distinction in meaning there is between the trendy nounification of "disconnect" and the conventional noun "disconnection." If I'd been concerned with grammar, I would have babbled on about faulty predication involving the adverbial phrase beginning "where..." Thankfully, I didn't do that. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, waiting for someone to tally up the inconsistencies in my posts. J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::pushing the pencil not the envelope:: ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 00:20:54 -0500 From: Brian Subject: Re: "Ivy" >> Listening to it again, it strikes me as very familiar. I'm wondering if this >> is the second song he performed at the Warfield in San Fran on April 28, >> 1993 during his two song acoustic encore? The first song was "Cynthia Mask" >> and the second song was similar in feel and theme to "Ivy". > I remember in Detroit of this tour he came out for the encore and did an (acoustic) song I'd nver heard. All I remember was thinking he was singing a song about the guys beside me making fun of Murry Attaway and his band. These guys nearly heckled them of stage, It was horrible. If only Eddie was there to put them in their place! Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 09:12:29 -0500 From: "Fric Chaud" Subject: Re: another reap...or God, I'm so old! On 29 Dec 2001, at 23:34, Jill Brand wrote: > Well, I've seen the Loud Family mentioned on the feglist a few times, > and I assumed that everyone was talking about Pat and company. I > never knew that there was a bay area band. Just wait till you guys > pass forty... Over-forties like Loud Family too! After reading about them on this list, I found some of their releases and some Game Theory (also featuring Scott Miller) in the delete bins. Merci, fegmaniax! - -- Fric Chaud ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:17:48 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: COMPUTER HELP, PLEASE!!! If any of you computer geniuses could help us mere mortals with a PC problem, I'd be much obliged. You can send any and all advice to my e-mail addy (I already feel bad about boring the list with this post!). My husband, who understands things far better than I do, composed the following for your perusal. "We have a 3-1/2 year old PC (COMPAQ Presario, with an AMD K6 processor running Windows 98), and are beginning to see intermittent problems cropping up. It's out of warranty, and I am not sure where best to turn for technical support and/or repairs (and at what point it makes more sense to spend the money on a new system instead). We are pretty clueluess when it comes to Windows, so I am just trying to figure out what the best way to deal with this is. One of the problems is probably just hardware-related: we sometimes have problems reading CD-ROMs in our CD-ROM drive (it sometimes makes strange noises after inserting a CD, and only reads it on the second or third try). We plan to get the CD-ROM drive replaced. The other problem is that the PC occasionally hangs after running applications, more with some than with others. Most often it hangs after burning a CD (copying from one music CD in the CD-ROM drive to a CD-R disk in the CD-RW drive (a unit made by I/O MAGIC, an IDE device plugged into our USB port). We usually have to quit the application for burning the CD, and then restart the computer, or otherwise the next application we start up hangs, and we get a message saying something like "The application is busy..., type any key to continue or CTL-ALT-DEL to restart the computer"; CTL-ALT-DEL does not always work, and we then have to power down the computer to bring it back to life. In addition, when the application has finished creating an image of the CD on the hard disk (and before it has a chance to start the burning process), it quits with a fatal error and must be restarted. Could that be related to the failing CD-ROM drive too, or is it another hardware problem, or something else? We installed the McAfee antivirus program a few weeks ago, but had to un-install it because we were seeing problems starting up. (It did not find any viruses on our system, and I doubt we have been infected since then - we use telnet to read our email on a remote UNIX system, using the pine mail program). How would I go about figuring this out? I ran "scandisk" and it did not find any errors on the hard drive. I looked at the system diagnostics output, but it's mostly Greek to me, so I am out of ideas." Thanks everybody! Jill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:36:06 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Giving in Well, I was seized with a desperate fit of restlessness tonight, and needed an escape. There was nada on TV, and I decided I'd pop off to a movie -- a really last-minute decision. Yup, ended up choosing "The Lord of the Rings." Two reasons: 1) I was dismayed to discover that "Mulholland Drive" and a couple of other notable candidates were all playing at least 15-25 miles away, and 2) LOTR has clearly become what I call a "culturally mandated film." Like it or not. Even moreso than "Harry Potter," at least in my own circles. I don't have anything elaborate to say about the film. It was well-made, and a worthy adaptation. I don't regret going. But did it send me spiralling into rapturous euphoria? No. Do I consider it "visionary" in the best sci-fi/fantasy tradition? No. A lasting, resonant experience? No. Did I like it better than, say, "Excalibur"? Not even close. Better than Jackson's own "Heavenly Creatures"? No again. "Star Wars"? A close call, but probably a "no" there too. "Memento"? Please, do you have to ask? Music: B Acting: B Actors' onscreen charisma: B- Visuals: A- Direction: A- Emotional pull of the storytelling and characterizations: B- Scariness/suspense: B Making three hours go by without getting boring: B+ Ability to create an alternate reality which makes you ignore how many of the characters are computer-generated: C+ Faithfulness to books: no idea, since I only remember the broadest details of them The media hype's success in blowing the importance/prominence of Liv Tyler's role completely out of proportion: A Resemblance of Lorien elves to Nelson: A That's about all I have to say. Even though the visual effects were very well-done, I didn't get as many "oooooh, wow" moments as I hoped. Really, I didn't get a significant sensory tingle until the late scenes crossing the crumbling stone bridge inside the mine. Looking back, the most impressive effect might have been simply how well the film sustained the illusion of the hobbit actors being so much shorter than the others. Good show, on that count. I have seen "Excalibur" so darn many times -- I always have a hard time resisting it when it's shown on TV. But I know I won't see this film a second time. Sorry for the bucket o' cold water, but I'm not exaggerating my response for effect. It just wasn't an earthmoving experience for me. I hesitate to post these comments because I'm really not interested in further LOTR discussion, so feel free to ignore this. Eb, now having a doubly hard time understanding Quail's previous rave ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #480 ********************************