From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #478 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, December 28 2001 Volume 10 : Number 478 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Reap ["Rob" ] Minus 3 points for the techies ["Redtailed Hawk" ] sundry ["ross taylor" ] another reap [Eb ] Re: sundry ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: sundry [Christopher Gross ] Re: sundry ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Nashville (0% RH) [Mike Swedene ] Re: sundry [Eclipse ] nits picked while you wait [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] effective cone disposal ["Stewart C. Russell" ] CD3 Adaptors [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: effective cone disposal [Brian ] Blair and the tomb raider curse and an effective pm disposal [gSs ] RE: effective cone disposal ["Brian Huddell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 17:03:51 -0000 From: "Rob" Subject: Re: Reap On 27 Dec 2001 at 16:59, I wrote: > Sir Nigel Hawthorne, yesterday. > Sir Humphrey in British comedies Yes, Minister and Yes, Prime > Minister and played King George III in the film The Madness of King > George. I pasted the wrong url, it should have been the obit from the Grauniad which is far more interesting and is here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0,3604,624770,00.html - -- Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 19:04:38 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: Minus 3 points for the techies Luckily this survey did -not- include librarians;-) http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2100701,00.html Kay _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 15:19:14 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Minus 3 points for the techies On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, Redtailed Hawk wrote: > Luckily this survey did -not- include librarians;-) > http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2100701,00.html Support staffers are like sheet musicians. Everything is OK as long as they have something to reference. Programmers have the highest sperm counts and always get the prettiest detail assistants. Was that sexist or adminphobic? I was trying to offend as many as possible in 30 words or less. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 16:46:06 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: sundry More holiday greetings to all between times off, and a big How-Dee to Joelle Clark. - --- I have to defend the Odyssy -- Chapman's for meter, & Robert Fitzgerald's for free[er] verse. Odysseus is such "a great Greek liar" as Ovid called him, & such cool stuff happens to him. As far as plot digressions are concerned, I think we've gotten too hooked on cross-cutting as a way of suggesting simultanaetie[sp]. It's extreme stylization, like the high-flown diction of 19th cent. novels. Fun for a while, but aren't there other ways of doing things too? But I will admit, first time thru the Bacchae I thought it was a real let-down that someone came out & told about Pentheus getting torn apart by women -- aw, we don't get to see it? - --- When someone talks about "scots" the tongue, what do they usually mean? I once went into the main public library in Edinborough & asked in my Virginia accent if they had any shelves of contemporary Scottish poetry [they did]. The guy at the front desk, a typical pickle-up-the- ass librarian, insisted on saying everything first in "scots" then in very plain english. - --- Bloopers- THe post article is funny & reminds me of the "true statements from insurance forms" thing that I used in some composition classes in the 80s. It comes up on Google if you search: kill fly telephone pole --because everyone remembers "In my attempt to kill a fly I drove into a telephone pole." My favorite version is here: http://paul.merton.ox.ac.uk/language/insurance.html Includes Robynesque bits like: The other man altered his mind and I had to run over him. She suddenly saw me, lost her head and we collided. I bumped into a lamp-post which was obscured by human beings. - --- EbTV -- My only TV taping was in early 81, when I saw a Johnny Carson show with the suprise bonus of promo spots for an upcoming special featuring Bob Hope and (!)Lucille Ball. So I got to see her before she croaked. It was fun & memorable, but I still think there's a huge disconnect where a big percentage of TV end-product is soul-sucking dull, while the process of making it is undeniably mind-bending. - --- Santa brought-- Nuggets II (Madmen Running THru the Fields!) Procol Harum/Broken Barricades (at last on CD) Let's Go Get Stoned (interesting Stones covers, including Jagger/Richards songs never done by them, done by likes of Gene Pitney & lots of tracks by the wonderful Chris Farlowe) Afro-Celt Sound System (for my daughter really, but it's fun) Ross Taylor S.C.O.T.S.= Southern Culture on the Skids (i.e. "For Lovers Only") Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 13:50:09 -0800 From: Eb Subject: another reap I'm not sure of this article's source. - ---- Lance Loud, a freelance journalist who gained notoriety in 1973 when his seemingly ideal family self-destructed before a national audience in one of TV's first "reality" series, died Dec. 22 in Los Angeles. He was 50. Loud, 50, died in a hospice from complications of hepatitis C, his sister Delilah announced Dec. 24. His mother, Pat, and sisters Delilah and Michele, were with him when he died. Loud was the eldest son of Bill and Pat Loud of Santa Barbara, Calif. In 1971, the well-to-do family -- Bill and Pat, and their children Lance, Kevin, Delilah, Grant and Michele -- allowed documentary filmmakers to move into their home and record their activities at will for seven months. The resulting 300 hours of film were distilled into a 12-hour miniseries that aired on public television in 1973. The *cinema verite* miniseries became a national sensation. The Louds thought the experiment would yield only a slightly grittier version of "Father Knows Best;" a look at a typical American family at home. Instead, the presence of cameras seemed to amplify conflicts, and ultimately laid bare the family's disintegration. Bill Loud was revealed to be a philanderer; wife Pat kicked him out of the house. Before the series made it to the air, the Louds divorced. Lance Loud, then 20, emerged as a charming protagonist, who followed Ricky Nelson's example and used the film crew's presence to gain national exposure for his garage band. In a sequence shot in a seed hotel in New York, Loud publicly announced that he was a homosexual. Loud's public coming out -- a bold move in the early 1970s -- made him a hero in the gay community. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 22:26:50 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: sundry ross taylor wrote: > > When someone talks about "scots" the tongue, > what do they usually mean? any of the english dialects written or spoken in Scotland, inc Lallans (lowlands) and Doric (generally northeastern). Probably also includes the rich Glaswegian dialect, as so ably (and amusingly) documented in Michael Munro's "The Patter" (ISBN: 1841581283). (Mike's a former Collins lexicographer, so Knows His Stuff). It probably doesn't include Ulster Scots; usage considered silly, or political. Or both. I find Scots, as written now, almost impossibly contrived and hard to follow: stuff from here: http://www.mlove.free-online.co.uk is nothing like I hear or speak, nor anything like I've heard in my extensive travels in Scotland. Stewart - -- Stewart C. Russell, Kirkintilloch, Scotland - scruss@enterprise.net "There Is No Santa Claus, How Could You Lie To Me?" - Chocolate USA http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 17:32:02 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: sundry On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, ross taylor wrote: > When someone talks about "scots" the tongue, > what do they usually mean? I once went into the > main public library in Edinborough & asked in > my Virginia accent if they had any shelves of > contemporary Scottish poetry [they did]. The > guy at the front desk, a typical pickle-up-the- > ass librarian, insisted on saying everything > first in "scots" then in very plain english. That reminds me of the scene in "Bananas" when Woody Allen, new head of a Latin American revolutionary junta, flies to America on a diplomatic mission. He's joined by an interpreter who translates Woody's and the State Department guy's English into ... English with a thick Spanish accent. On a sadder note, it also reminds me of Yugoslav nationalists who insist that Serbo-Croatian is really two separate languages, "Serbian" and "Croatian," even though the two are actually far more similar than Scots and English. It was as if people from Hampshire and Kent, or Maryland and Ohio, claimed to speak separate languages. Something has been bothering me, and yesterday I realized what it is. In the current war, our enemies have all the cool names and we have none. Bush, Powell, Rumsfeld: boring, boring, silly and boring. Whereas Zaccarias Moussaoui -- now THERE is a cool-sounding name. To help end this imbalance, I propose that Ving Rhames immediately be appointed to the National Security Council. Congratulations, Tom and Colleen! - --Chris, an atypical pickle-up-the-ass librarian ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 22:41:51 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: sundry Christopher Gross wrote: > > It was as if people from Hampshire and Kent, or Maryland and > Ohio, claimed to speak separate languages. I think only the most fanatical Scots Leid loonies would claim that Scots was a separate language. The various flavours of Scots are dialects. I mean, does this not sound rather like someone putting on a Scottish accent? "Houever, the Office o Scotlan haes tint sicht o the fack at three leids belangs this kintra. The General Register Office haes estimatit at ane an a hauf million fowk in Scotlan yet speaks Scots. A curn fowk micht think thon's ower muckle. Ithers say it isna eneuch. The high heid anes haesna allued Scots onie ingait tae public lyfe. The GRO an the Office o Scotlan is baith feart tae pit Scots on the census, even tho fowk haes been fechtin for fower years for hit tae gang on." It's actually from an official request to have Scots accepted as a third official Scottish language. I would have expected most of the audience were amused... - -- Stewart C. Russell, Kirkintilloch, Scotland - scruss@enterprise.net "There Is No Santa Claus, How Could You Lie To Me?" - Chocolate USA http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 16:10:52 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Nashville (0% RH) Hey all! I am buried under 56" of snow in the winter wonderland known as Buffalo, NY. Oh well. My friend and I are heading to nashville for new years eve. any fegs there? any feggy parties? anyone? bueller? Just checking! Happy post boxing day! Herbie np-> "Think For Yourself" RH 8/4/01 ===== - --------------------------------------------- View my Websight & CDR Trade page at: http://midy.topcities.com/ _____________________________________________ Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 00:55:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Eclipse Subject: Re: sundry Yesterday, Christopher Gross says to Squidmaniax!, they says: > Something has been bothering me, and yesterday I realized what it is. In > the current war, our enemies have all the cool names and we have none. > Bush, Powell, Rumsfeld: boring, boring, silly and boring. you gotta admit, though, that Stufflebeam is a great name for an Admiral. sounds like something out of Rocky & Bullwinkle. :) Eclipse np: Cowboy Bebop remixes "music for freelance" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Eclipse | eclipse@eclipse.best.vwh.net (clunky enough for you?) If this is not what you expected, please alter your expectations. "i guess one person can make a difference - but most of the time, they probably shouldn't." - Marge Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 23:36:55 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: nits picked while you wait On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, ross taylor wrote: > her before she croaked. It was fun & memorable, > but I still think there's a huge disconnect > where a big percentage of TV end-product is > soul-sucking dull, while the process of making > it is undeniably mind-bending. Okay - nothing personal; lots of folks use this - but I don't quite get the distinction between "a huge disconnection where..." and the buzzword-friendly usage above. Or has the culture as a whole become the victim of a massive Space De-Ionizer lopping off -ions at random? Uh-oh - just thought of "The Can Opener." Group recitation please. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::flag on the moon...how'd it get there?:: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 08:40:10 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: effective cone disposal I have here one of Robyn's cones, the only one for sale at the Glasgow Soft Boys gig on 24 April 2001. Unusual in that it's signed by all the Soft Boys, see here: http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/rh_temp/index.html#cone As it'll be utter poo to ship to Canada, do I: * make an arrangement here, or * embrace the free market and slap it on ebay to let it find the going value? It'll be a shame to part with it. Stewart - -- Stewart C. Russell, Kirkintilloch, Scotland - scruss@enterprise.net "There Is No Santa Claus, How Could You Lie To Me?" - Chocolate USA http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 02:19:12 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: CD3 Adaptors Does anyone have a clue where or even if you can find those things anymore? ===== "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:07:04 -0500 From: Brian Subject: Re: effective cone disposal That tis a beaut! Stewart. It'd be a shame to part with such a treasure, but I can't help but be curious as to how high it would sell for on evilbay. I've never seen a cone up there before. Thanks Theo for the mp3s! Did we ever determine if "Ivy" was a RH original? What/When is it from? Nuppy At Friday, 28 December 2001, "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: >I have here one of Robyn's cones, the only one for sale at the Glasgow >Soft Boys gig on 24 April 2001. Unusual in that it's signed by all the >Soft Boys, see here: >http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/rh_temp/index.html#cone > >As it'll be utter poo to ship to Canada, do I: > >* make an arrangement here, or > >* embrace the free market and slap it on ebay to let it find the going >value? > >It'll be a shame to part with it. > > Stewart > >-- > Stewart C. Russell, Kirkintilloch, Scotland - scruss@enterprise.net > "There Is No Santa Claus, How Could You Lie To Me?" - Chocolate USA > http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:11:26 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Blair and the tomb raider curse and an effective pm disposal BY ANDREW PIERCE TONY BLAIR was warned that he faces the wrath of an ancient mummy after he witnessed the discovery of a 4,600-year-old skeleton near the great pyramids of Giza yesterday. The Prime Minister, who is on a five-day family holiday in Egypt, was told by a leading archaeologist that to avoid the curse of the long-dead pyramid artisan he would have to grow a stubbly beard - or be devoured by animals. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2-2001601782,00.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 10:27:07 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: a sta-sta-sta star. I was trying to studder like Arkwright. I am bored. I have lots of code to write before the 1st but I don't feel like doing it. Anyone got a joint? (CNN) -- A U.S. astronomer said he has uncovered the first reference to the star of Bethlehem outside the Bible, in the 4th-century writings of a Christian convert who wanted to hide the astrological roots of the celestial phenomenon. For centuries, scientists and scholars have debated about the nature of the Biblical light that led the Magi to the newborn Jesus. Some have suggested a comet or supernova. But Michael Molnar concluded that the star was actually a double eclipse of Jupiter roughly 2,000 years ago. http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/space/12/27/star.coverup/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 11:57:35 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: effective cone disposal Stewart: > It'll be a shame to part with it. Indeed. Do you plan to bring socks and underwear to Canada? It seems to me that a cone stuffed with socks and underwear would take up only slightly more space than the socks and underwear by themselves, without a cone. But I haven't tested it or anything. The same would probably be true for marbles or sponges, in case you plan to bring lots of either of those things to Canada. - -brian np: my new E-Bow! ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #478 ********************************