From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #471 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, December 21 2001 Volume 10 : Number 471 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: G4-400 ["Poole, R. Edward" ] Beyond FOTR [BLATZMAN@aol.com] Re: throwing tomatoes at hollywood [bayard ] Re: throwing money at hollywood [Aaron Mandel ] caterpillar hair ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] amelie ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: throwing money at hollywood ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: caterpillar hair [Tom Clark ] very amelie ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: Miles and I agree again (sort of) [Miles Goosens ] Re: Miles and I agree again (sort of) [Eclipse ] Re: more from the Google archive ["Fric Chaud" ] Stroke this ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: throwing money at hollywood [Eleanore Adams ] Re: Jackson's Ring: Wow. [steve ] Re: Stroke this [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: G4-400/film [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Fillums [Michael R Godwin ] Re: very amelie ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Fillums [Miles Goosens ] Re: Fillums [Michael R Godwin ] Re: The Quail at the Movies [Sebastian Hagedorn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:57:23 -0500 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: RE: G4-400 I use a Sony Spressa USB with my G4 iMac DV (which, as Tom points out, is just IDE drive with a bridge) and, yes, USB is a lousy, slow connection (I can only burn at 2x speed). By contrast, I have a Firewire (i.e., IDE w/ Firewire bridge) external HD, which is incredibly fast and efficient (no, I don't have a clock speed for you, but it is fast). - -----Original Message----- From: tclark@reardensteel.com [mailto:tclark@reardensteel.com] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:37 AM To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: Re: G4-400 Gene: > Has anybody used the external USB burners on a G4? I've heard they're > slow and that USB isn't that good for data transfer. Is that accurate? USB is 12Mbps vs. FireWire's 480Mbps, so yeah, it's relatively slow by comparison. But data transfer over USB is as reliable as any data bus - even more so in some cases. Since most every external USB or FireWire drive is just an IDE drive connected to a {USB | 1394} to IDE bridge, you could easily make it yourself. If you've got the raw drive, you could put it in one of these cases: http://www.firewirestuff.com/adskit.html I know people who use these kits with several different drives (e.g., HD and CD). They just swap them out when needed. Or here's a combo USB/FireWire CD-RW for $199: http://www.apstech.com/prod/index.cfm?cat=2#CD_RW later gators, - -tc ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:02:19 EST From: BLATZMAN@aol.com Subject: Beyond FOTR << I reread Fellowship a couple months ago in preparation for seeing the film, and I was amazed to discover that the book was basically two reasonably exciting sequences breaking up scene after scene of the company either hiking or enjoying themselves in some extraordinarily comfortable wayhouse or other. I'd remembered it as being a dull book, but it was worse than I thought. >> Thank you Drew for having a better way with words than myself. I'm horrible with words!!! I honestly can't tell if Two Towers was any good or not. I thought that the Ent stuff was getting into nonsense, but I was really bored at this point in the book and just forcing myself along. There was no joy in the read at all... It was like work. But that story is quite original and I can't wait to see the film. As an editor, I can't wait to watch it, since someone has pointed out the horrible editing. I usually agree with the Director though, on editing decisions(see alt ending to 6th Sense... Ugh!!), especially when I respect the person. As for Eb comments of : "Maybe a film which concentrates on character, nuance and dialogue, rather than visual whizzbang, funny costumes and/or vampirish recycling of previously seen works? A sharp, original screenplay, rather than just a hotshot effects team and hip taste in cult literature? Cause we all know ALL of Robyn's work is soooooo deep... Wafflehead....Trilobyte... Eaten by Her Own Dinner, Oh man, Robyn's written so many stupid songs whose only purpose is to put a smile on your face. Everyone likes a diversion, even Steven Soderberg. Hulk by Ang Lee... Hell, Shallow Hal was a great film. Let people enjoy what they want. Robyn appeals many more people than that select group who have a hip taste in cult literature. Hip taste... That's a good one... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:07:22 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: Re: throwing tomatoes at hollywood > It's just a question of showing instead of telling, which is as much > literary as filmic. > > I reread Fellowship > a couple months ago in preparation for seeing the film, and I was amazed > to discover that the book was basically two reasonably exciting sequences > breaking up scene after scene of the company either hiking or enjoying > themselves in some extraordinarily comfortable wayhouse or other. I'd > remembered it as being a dull book, but it was worse than I thought. > > > Yes, but this is all meant to be presented as a history. > > A few events would therefore have been nice. Like I said, it's a matter of preference. I *like* the contrast between the action scenes and the stopovers and travels. Earth-shattering events don't happen every day in real life, nor in this story. For you, there is the film, and the LotR Cliff's notes. :) Both will have the "boring" bits expunged. But it's the non-action-sequences that tell us the most about the characters, which are among Tolkein's greatest creations. Like the man said, "character, nuance and dialogue". I also like how it's presented as a tale, and the narrator breaks in once in a while. (Thought that's mostly in _The Hobbit_.) "Show, don't tell" is a rule Dr. Tolkien is exempt from, IMO. I know many differ with me on this. Seeing it tonight with fegs, =b ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:21:59 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: throwing money at hollywood On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > I'm going to be _really_ late with _Amelie_, which so far has failed > to sound even remotely like the sort of film I'd want to see. I mostly heard two things about it before I saw it: 1) It's not like Jeunet's other movies. This is not true. I don't even know what they were thinking. Jeunet's Paris is a carnival, just like his post-apocalyptic boarding house (Delicatessen) and his City Of Lost Children. Unlike those two, it's sunny. But come on... 2) It's a feel-good movie about a cute little girl who makes everyone happy. This is true in the same way that "Underwater Moonlight" is about a couple who fall in love so deeply that they want to be together forever and ever and ever -- it does describe the course of events at the shallowest level and, in a sense, at the deepest level, but all the stuff in between is free of the treacle one associates with happy stories. It's not the best movie in the world, but it's very good. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:47:53 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: caterpillar hair > From: Eb > > Maybe a film which concentrates on character, nuance and dialogue, > rather than visual whizzbang, funny costumes and/or vampirish > recycling of previously seen works? A sharp, original screenplay, > rather than just a hotshot effects team and hip taste in cult > literature? Yeah! I wish they would make some movies like those again. Personally I like movies with character, nuance, and dialogue that also manage to be visually and sartorially stimulating. But those are even harder to come by these days. Speaking of fegmovies, there was a trailer for Judas Kiss on the tape of Idle Hands we watched last night. It looked terrible. Did anyone see it? > From: grutness@surf4nix.com > what confuses me is why people put their real names in quotes in the > 'from:' section of emails. People don't, mailers do. As in Tron -- one of those old-school character-and-dialogue-driven quality films -- the program is not sure whether to believe in its User. > From: Jeff Dwarf > > "Andrew D. Simchik" wrote: >> Nonsense, I'm a member as well. Especially since I can't currently >> figure out what MBV is. Ah, yes, of course. I guess I "get" My Bloody Valentine enough to be ineligible for the club. > but Robert didn't really have full coiffure going until "The > Caterpillar" video though. it's still pretty much in the chrysalis > stage that point. All the stages are interesting to my mind. Thanks for the spoiler warnings, people. For once I'm actually trying to avoid reading detailed reviews or seeing spoilers before the film. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:53:01 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: amelie on 12/20/01 11:21 AM, Aaron Mandel at aaron@eecs.harvard.edu wrote: [Amelie] > > 1) It's not like Jeunet's other movies. This is not true. I don't even > know what they were thinking. Jeunet's Paris is a carnival, just like his > post-apocalyptic boarding house (Delicatessen) and his City Of Lost > Children. Unlike those two, it's sunny. But come on... Eh. City of Lost Children was the first Jeunet movie I'd ever seen and I really despised it, so I never saw any others until Alien Resurrection, about which I would have to write a lot more to explain whether I liked it or not. So this is not an encouraging point. > 2) It's a feel-good movie about a cute little girl who makes everyone > happy. This is true in the same way that "Underwater Moonlight" is about a > couple who fall in love so deeply that they want to be together forever > and ever and ever -- it does describe the course of events at the > shallowest level and, in a sense, at the deepest level, but all the stuff > in between is free of the treacle one associates with happy stories. This is a more encouraging point. But given how many other good movies I have yet to watch that do sound good to me, I don't think this one will top my list. :) Drew - -- http://www.stormgreen.com/~drew/ "You're living in a global shopping mall, and you're the only person who still thinks there's a bloody exit." - Edina Monsoon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 19:47:45 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: throwing money at hollywood Aaron Mandel wrote: > > It's not the best movie in the world, but it's very good. I'd stick in an extra "very" in there. I think it's the only film I've paid to see twice. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:59:56 -0800 From: Eb Subject: RE: G4-400/film Coincidentally, I burned my very first CD last night, with my new iMac. Woo! (I didn't burn music...just about half a disc's worth of backup files.) What does Toast have that the provided burning software doesn't? I hear Toast is superior, but I've never used it nor even seen anyone else use it. BLATZMAN: >(see alt ending to 6th Sense... Ugh!!) What happened in the alternate ending? >Cause we all know ALL of Robyn's work is soooooo deep... >Wafflehead....Trilobyte... Eaten by Her Own Dinner, Oh man, Robyn's written >so many stupid songs whose only purpose is to put a smile on your face. So, your reply to my gripe is that Robyn has written some songs as stupid/silly as the films which get discussed here? Uhh...OK. I'm not really sure that helps your case. >Let people enjoy what they want. Robyn appeals many more people than that >select group who have a hip taste in cult literature. Exactly. Which is why I'd hope the list would be interested in more than a teensy "Those hip dudes have made it into a FILM now!!" sector of the cinema world. Personally, I see plenty of films at home (my current in-progress tape is "Topsy Turvy"), but I don't go to movies in theaters very often. To give you an idea, I think my last theater trip was to see "A.I" w/"Shrek." But if I had to go see one film right now, it would be "Mulholland Drive." And if not that, "The Man Who Wasn't There." LOTR would be third. And that's not because I'm a Tolkien geek, but because I like Peter Jackson's stuff (especially "Heavenly Creatures"). Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:07:03 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: caterpillar hair on 12/20/01 11:47 AM, Andrew D. Simchik at drew@stormgreen.com wrote: > Speaking of fegmovies, there was a trailer for Judas Kiss on > the tape of Idle Hands we watched last night. It looked > terrible. Did anyone see it? Yeah, it was ok. Not very memorable though. One of those "if it's on and I've got a few hours to kill..." movies. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:06:41 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: very amelie on 12/20/01 11:47 AM, Stewart C. Russell at scruss@enterprise.net wrote: > Aaron Mandel wrote: >> >> It's not the best movie in the world, but it's very good. > > I'd stick in an extra "very" in there. I think it's the only film I've > paid to see twice. Well, see, everyone says this, but I have yet to hear any compelling explanation of what's so damned very very good about it. I had the same problem with Chocolat, about which people would say, "oh, it's so great...it makes you want to eat chocolate." Well, I already want to eat chocolate. Drew - -- http://www.stormgreen.com/~drew/ "You're living in a global shopping mall, and you're the only person who still thinks there's a bloody exit." - Edina Monsoon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:24:34 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Miles and I agree again (sort of) At 08:41 AM 12/19/2001 -0800, Natalie Jane wrote: >>Miles >>founder and sole member of the "I don't get Stereolab, GbV, MBV, or >>Pavement" Club > >I'll join your club, but only in the Pavement subsection. No, it's like "Gay Communist Gun Club," you have to meet all of the qualification to belong! "While we are thrilled that you too understand the artistic bankruptcy of Malkmus and his ilk, your devotion to Stereolab's Velvetsy lounge music and your refusal to acknowledge that the Jesus & Mary Chain and Kitchens of Distinction utterly obliterate My Bloody Valentine means that we must reject your application. Unless you take the next logical step of divesting yourself of the CDs of these counterrevolutionary forces, I don't see much chance for you. Next caller!" later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 12:59:01 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Miles and I agree again (sort of) > >>founder and sole member of the "I don't get Stereolab, GbV, MBV, or > >>Pavement" Club I tried to launch a "I don't get Radiohead, Aimee Mann, Steely Dan, Primal Scream, the Magnetic Fields, Wilco, Santana, Morphine, Red House Painters, Daft Punk, Echo & the Bunnymen, the Stone Roses, Destiny's Child, Pearl Jam, Cake, Jimmy Eat World, Social Distortion, Massive Attack, Creeper Lagoon, Modest Mouse, Dave Matthews, John Hiatt, Mercury Rev, Cornershop, Tool, the Goo Goo Dolls, Cypress Hill, Alice in Chains, the Dandy Warhols, Sunny Day Real Estate, Henry Rollins, Dirty Three, The The, Bauhaus, Momus, Toad the Wet Sprocket, Rob Zombie, the Verve, Garrison Keillor and post-rock" Club awhile back, but couldn't generate enough interest. Maybe I need to add some more band names to the charter. >I had the same problem with Chocolat, about >which people would say, "oh, it's so great...it makes you >want to eat chocolate." Well, I already want to eat >chocolate. Yeah, that's the rationale I always hear from people who didn't like "Pink Flamingos." Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 21:27:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Eclipse Subject: Re: Miles and I agree again (sort of) Today, Eb says to reap:, they says: > I tried to launch a "I don't get Radiohead, Aimee Mann, Steely Dan, > Primal Scream, the Magnetic Fields, Wilco, Santana, Morphine, Red > House Painters, Daft Punk, Echo & the Bunnymen, the Stone Roses, > Destiny's Child, Pearl Jam, Cake, Jimmy Eat World, Social Distortion, > Massive Attack, Creeper Lagoon, Modest Mouse, Dave Matthews, John > Hiatt, Mercury Rev, Cornershop, Tool, the Goo Goo Dolls, Cypress > Hill, Alice in Chains, the Dandy Warhols, Sunny Day Real Estate, ..." congratulations for not liking so many popular bands! we're all quite proud of you. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Eclipse | eclipse@eclipse.best.vwh.net (clunky enough for you?) If this is not what you expected, please alter your expectations. "i guess one person can make a difference - but most of the time, they probably shouldn't." - Marge Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 10:33:49 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Re: grammar reap; rock! >- - Mike Godwin > >PS to Bayard: "The crowd are loving it" refers of course to the >_performance_, which is singular. erm.. shouldn't that be "the crowd is loving it"? :) James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:34:43 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Miles and I agree again (sort of) >Today, Eb says to reap:, they says: > >> I tried to launch a "I don't get Radiohead, Aimee Mann, Steely Dan, >> Primal Scream, the Magnetic Fields, Wilco, Santana, Morphine, Red >> House Painters, Daft Punk, Echo & the Bunnymen, the Stone Roses, >> Destiny's Child, Pearl Jam, Cake, Jimmy Eat World, Social Distortion, >> Massive Attack, Creeper Lagoon, Modest Mouse, Dave Matthews, John >> Hiatt, Mercury Rev, Cornershop, Tool, the Goo Goo Dolls, Cypress >> Hill, Alice in Chains, the Dandy Warhols, Sunny Day Real Estate, ..." > >congratulations for not liking so many popular bands! we're all quite >proud of you. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 17:59:51 -0500 From: "Fric Chaud" Subject: Re: more from the Google archive On 19 Dec 2001, at 16:37, Eb wrote: > This is someone else's "research," not mine, but supposedly this is > Usenet's very first Macintosh mention? Neat! Formidable! Here is an even older Usenet post mentioning Jordache Jeans for the first time! From: ARPAVAX:arnold (ARPAVAX:arnold) Subject: Well, maybe not, but where else? Newsgroups: net.jokes Date: 1982-03-11 18:21:50 PST Ugh. I only WISH this was a joke: Jordache, the company that brought you the $10.00 pair of jeans for $50.00+, now brings you: Designer Sneakers! Just the way to get your kid into it early and increase child rearing costs by 50%! Ken - -- Fric Chaud ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 21:28:38 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Stroke this Picked up the Strokes CD after reading all the raves in this forum and seeing them on some TV show the other night. I hear a lotta Lou in that second track. I hear some good songs. I hear some potential. But I also hear Flash And The Pan. That was the first thing I thought of when I realized every song was going to feature that filtered "telephone" vocal. Flash And The Pan. The voice filter was their gimmick too. Frankly, I think it worked better for Flash And The Pan; these guys don't need it. Someone else mentioned the sameness of the songs and I gotta go along with that. Interesting that there have been Ramones comparisons, because while the Ramones certainly didn't vary their style much from song to song they seemed to have a helluva lot more depth and warmth than these guys. Lose the voice filter on the next album and maybe we'll hear some warmth. Maybe I'm too old. Maybe I've been spoling myself with too much dB's and XTC and Buzzcocks lately. But I had to shut the thing off after two songs the third time through. I did notice that one of the guys in the band is named Albert Hammond Jr....so I suppose he is the son of Mr. "It Never Rains In California"? - -rUss np: dB's/repercussion Velvet Underground/Velvet Underground Pearl Jam/Yield Bob Dylan/Bringing it All Back Home XTC/Black Sea ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 21:45:38 -0800 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: throwing money at hollywood Both me and my husband loved it - he LOVED it - it struck a chord with him. I don't know how what where or why, he usually does not get mushy or choked up about films, but this one struck a nerve with him, a happy nerve. I liked it alot, but did not fall in love with it in the same way he did. It is much deeper than the " its about a girl who makes people happy" review. elenaore "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > Aaron Mandel wrote: > > > > It's not the best movie in the world, but it's very good. > > I'd stick in an extra "very" in there. I think it's the only film I've > paid to see twice. > > Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 00:33:02 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Jackson's Ring: Wow. On Thursday, December 20, 2001, at 08:34 AM, The Great Quail wrote: > To say that it's probably the best fantasy movie ever made is to do it > a disservice by ghettoizing it in a genre. Better than Cocteau? - - Steve __________ While still at the Department of Justice, Rehnquist provided the best definition of a strict constructionist I have ever encountered. It was in a memo Rehnquist wrote while he was vetting Judge Clement Haynsworth, one of Nixon's selections who was rejected by the Senate. Rehnquist wrote, in brief, that a strict constructionist was anyone who likes prosecutors and dislikes criminal defendants and who favors civil rights defendants over civil rights plaintiffs. That is as candid and blunt as you can get. And that is the real definition of a strict constructionist. - John Dean ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:40:50 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Stroke this Russ Reynolds wrote: > I did notice that one of the guys in the band is named Albert Hammond > Jr....so I suppose he is the son of Mr. "It Never Rains In > California"? yerp. weird other stroke note. i bought my copy used, and when i got home i realised it must have been a preview copy sent to reviewers because, though it's the american version, it featnres the now-deleted "New York City Cops." ain't i the bomb? oh right, never mind. ===== "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 09:39:34 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: G4-400/film - --On Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:59:56 -0800 Eb wrote: > What does Toast have that the provided burning software doesn't? I hear > Toast is superior, but I've never used it nor even seen anyone else use > it. It's way more flexible. You can burn hybrid CDs, VCDs etc. What really bugs me about DiscBurner is that it requires so much free HD space for its temporary files. I guess for occasional use it's just fine, though. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ Winter is coming. [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 12:05:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Fillums I was wondering about those RH-style films last night, and I would suggest: Orphee by Jean Cocteau Tristana by Luis Bunuel Roma by Federico Fellini Some of those Jan Svankmeyer animated things and of course anything featuring Jeanne Moreau. So I would guess he was a continental-art-surrealist movie fan. But I bet he likes the shrubbery sequence in MP&tHG too. On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Russ Reynolds wrote: > But I also hear Flash And The Pan. That was the first thing I thought > of when I realized every song was going to feature that filtered > "telephone" vocal. Flash And The Pan. The voice filter was their > gimmick too. Frankly, I think it worked better for Flash And The Pan; > these guys don't need it. "Driver's Seat", right? Good record - did they do anything else? Who was it who did "Hallo this is Jody" around the same time, using the same 'phone voice' trick? - - Mike Godwin PS Ho Ho Ho and stuff! I'm unsubscribing for 10 days or so. have a great Christmas. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 22:27:55 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: very amelie Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > > Well, see, everyone says this, but I have yet to hear any > compelling explanation of what's so damned very very good > about it. okay: * cast: there isn't a badly-cast person in it. * camera work: delicious rich colour, in some places so vivid it's like a cross-processed still. The simulation of Super-8 in the growing-up scenes is great; it's like seeing home movies, but good ones. * score: Only the second soundtrack I've bought ever. Yes, it's tootly french accordion music, and yes, it was playing in the wonderful french deli in Edinburgh where I found some long-lost essentials, but I still like it * scenery: yes, it's a kind of idealised Montmartre, but it's colourful. * sfx: very low-key, but nice: + little Amelie's imaginary crocodile friend is cute + Bubbles the goldfish is heartbreaking + the talking lamp and posters work well + Amelie melts into a cascade of water; wonderfully done. * dialogue: the subtitles didn't suck, but I could follow along with the French a bit. They didn't make too much of a mess of the translation by not making it too literal. * story: simple, but with good use (well, I think -- you might find 'em tiresome) of asides, esp: + the checklist-style listing of each characters likes and dislikes (can I just say that I like breaking the crust of creme brulee with a spoon, and looking back at cinema audiences?) + Amelie's first good deed with the return of the childhood box of memories. + the mystery photobooth man who always throws his picture away. + the travelling gnome. do I need to say more? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:47:09 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Fillums At 12:05 PM 12/21/2001 +0000, Michael R Godwin wrote: >"Driver's Seat", right? Good record - did they do anything else? Wasn't "Driver's Seat" by Sniff 'n' the Tears? feels like 1979, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 15:12:14 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Fillums On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Miles Goosens wrote: > At 12:05 PM 12/21/2001 +0000, Michael R Godwin wrote: > >"Driver's Seat", right? Good record - did they do anything else? > > Wasn't "Driver's Seat" by Sniff 'n' the Tears? > feels like 1979, You're right, Miles. Sniff 'n' the Tears, Flash 'n' the Pan - I'm just getting confused... - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 16:49:47 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: The Quail at the Movies - --On Wednesday, December 19, 2001 09:53:30 -0500 The Great Quail wrote: > Sebastian writes, > >> And of course, >> somewhat towards the end of the film there is an interview with one Allen >> Rush! You never told us about that, did you? Your appartment looked very >> nice. I liked the animals on your iMac! > > No, I never said anything about it... It seems even too off-topic for me! Really? > But I am surprised but pleased that they included my interview in the > film, though sadly they botched my name! Hmm, maybe that way me and not them. I don't remember it precisely. What's wrong with what I wrote? And didn't they send you a complimentary copy of the film? > And to think, I asked for the > name of "Quaalmensch!" ??? "Qualmensch" would mean something like "man of suffering" in German, but I've never heard that term. Greetings, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ Winter is coming. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 08:41:51 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: Re: very amelie on 12/20/01 2:27 PM, Stewart C. Russell at scruss@enterprise.net wrote: > do I need to say more? Definitely not; every word convinces me more thoroughly that this is not a film whose appeal is communicable through description. Thank you for trying, though (a friend on another list tried also with the same degree of success). I'm sure when I get around to renting it I'll decide I love it, now that I've predicted I'll hate it. Drew - -- http://www.stormgreen.com/~drew/ "You're living in a global shopping mall, and you're the only person who still thinks there's a bloody exit." - Edina Monsoon ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #471 ********************************