From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #469 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, December 19 2001 Volume 10 : Number 469 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: probably penultimate update of the ticket museum ["marcus slade" ] Re: G4-400 [Ken Weingold ] Re: Vanilla Sky/spoilers...beware. ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: G4-400 (non Mac users delete now) [steve ] Re: nicking pits [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: G4-400 [Jason Miller ] wha? [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] One last chance to brush up on your Tolkien [steve ] Re: One last chance to brush up on your Tolkien [Eb ] Re: Alarm Clocks ["Stewart C. Russell" ] lyrics: Unprotected Love ["Stewart C. Russell" ] lyrics: A Man's Got To Know His Limitations, Briggs ["Stewart C. Russell"] Re: nicking pits ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: The Quail at the Movies [The Great Quail ] Re: last chance to brush before you die [gSs ] Re: The Quail at the Movies ["Mike Wells" ] Re: silvery tea [gSs ] OT: Plea for help from librarian types! ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Miles and I agree again (sort of) ["Natalie Jane" ] mike swedene, take note! (0% RRH, 100% RRR) [bayard ] Re: mike swedene, take note! (0% RRH, 100% RRR) [Mike Swedene ] new (temp) email addy ["Mike Wells" ] Grammar Rock [bayard ] Re: Lord of the Toilet Rings [bayard ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 02:33:40 From: "marcus slade" Subject: Re: probably penultimate update of the ticket museum Just a comment on the new tickets posted, or more precisely the flyer. I too was at the show in Brighton on 1st May 95 (and the Lewes show, both great shows) the flyer states support from Martin Carthy but sadly he didn't play. I can't remember the name of the 3 piece that played instead. Marcus PS I also mentioned the Garage show in January and it's closeness to the Grant Lee Phillips shows a few weeks ago. > >Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:22:43 +0000 >From: "Stewart C. Russell" >Subject: probably penultimate update of the ticket museum > >I got some tickets from Martin Mayhew and Darren Stephens; the site is >here: > >http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/fegtickets.html _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:45:05 -0800 (PST) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: Re: Vanilla Sky Max so aptly said: Byecccchhhhhhhhhhh. So true! I didn't believe the tepid reviews, no, I was stupid and thought, "Well, the trailer looks pretty cool. And Cameron Crowe is such a a good director, how bad could it be?" Arrgh. There's nothing worse than seeing a movie and 20 minutes into it you realize you're trapped in a terrible film and you have to sit there until the damn thing ends. (This part may spoil your viewing of the movie, so don't read this part if you insist on seeing this idiotic flick) Some things I don't get: *Tom Cruise's character gets into a car wreck and his face is all smashed up, so he hates himself for his grotesquely scarred face. So why are his famously beautiful teeth not affected by the car crash? *what's with that stupid "Jason" latex mask? *His arm was supposed to be messed up too, but it look just fine on film. *The music is nice (I don't recall having heard "Solsbury Hill" in a film before), but instead of being a vital part of the film (such as John Cusack holding up the boom box playing "In your Eyes" to Ione Skye's window in "Say Anything"), it's just tacked on to scenes as an afterthought. *The exterior shots of The Dakota are pretty cool too. Well, that's one good thing about this film. And it's kind of wistful to see the World Trade Center in the background during the last scene. *And Tom Cruise is just BAD in this movie...but then, I don't know of any actor who could pull this bad dialogue/script off. Ralph Fiennes maybe? He got all burnt up in the English Patient, but then, the audience could actually grow to *like* his character. Maybe if Tom Cruise had a line like "The air is filling with sand!" (with a nice british accent), "Vanilla Sky" might've been better. Ugh! I've posted enough drivel. Back to work! Carole ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:17:27 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: G4-400 On Tue, Dec 18, 2001, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > -- Mike Swedene is rumored to have mumbled on > Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2001 10:05 Uhr -0800 regarding G4-400: > > > I have a g4-400 tower (single Processor) > > is there an available bay to add a cd-writer in the > > machine? > > No, you'd have to replace the built-in CD or DVD drive... Isn't there a second bay besides the cdrom drive? Is that taken up? Alternatively, besides what Sebastian said about simply replacing the cdrom drive, you could get an external Firewire drive. They work great. I've used them at work. The G4 towers are wonderful to work inside, but definitely don't give you a lot of expansion room. Nothing in that respect compared to my PC tower. Right, LJ? ;-) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:19:51 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Vanilla Sky/spoilers...beware. >>Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 18:45:05 -0800 (PST) > >Max so aptly said: > > > Byecccchhhhhhhhhhh. carole: > So true! I didn't believe the tepid reviews, no, I was stupid and >thought, "Well, the trailer looks pretty cool. And Cameron Crowe is such a >a good director, how bad could it be?" Arrgh. There's nothing worse than >seeing a movie and 20 minutes into it you realize you're trapped in a >terrible film and you have to sit there until the damn thing ends. The sad truth is that the twist is soooo far out of left field that I doubt it would be possible to see it coming. It is not a redemption. It ends and you're like...Okay, whatever, may I go now? I enjoy a horrible movie if it has a twist that brings everything together. Heck, even The Man With Two Brains had a better incongruous twist(Merv Griffin as the Windex killer), at least that was(arguably) funny. I tried during the film to conclude the from the reoccurring commercials what was going on and it still has no real connection. It is so disenfranchised from the movie that they need to take 10 minuets to explain it in detail to the viewer...BYECCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH indeed! Cameron you let us down!!! Max _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:32:12 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: attn: james dignan While driving home today, I heard a feature on NPR about the many flags of Afghanistan. While it stopped just short of James-like detail, it still was impressively anoraky (is this a mixed metaphor in this context?) for a mainstream feature, and I'm sure Whitney Smith could have gone more arcane if need be. NPR archives all of its programming, so you can listen to the segment at http://www.npr.org/atc/20011218.atc.03.ram. Enjoy! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:01:06 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: G4-400 (non Mac users delete now) >>> I have a g4-400 tower (single Processor) >>> is there an available bay to add a cd-writer in the >>> machine? >> >> No, you'd have to replace the built-in CD or DVD drive... > > Isn't there a second bay besides the cdrom drive? Is that taken up? > Alternatively, besides what Sebastian said about simply replacing the > cdrom drive, you could get an external Firewire drive. They work > great. I've used them at work. > > The G4 towers are wonderful to work inside, but definitely don't give > you a lot of expansion room. Nothing in that respect compared to my > PC tower. Right, LJ? ;-) The second bay in the G4 won't take a full size drive. I think it's pretty much intended for a zip drive. Maybe The Steve, in his extra long and early MWSF keynote, will introduce a new case design for the G4 (or G5) along with the new iMac (flatMac?). Or maybe he's going to play an hour's worth of mix tunes from his iPod. - - Steve __________ Break the cursing seal of love, new devil. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:08:41 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: nicking pits On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > Jason, who thought up a few alarm clocks, but they all sucked Those were Oasis alarm clocks. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Some see things as they are, and say "Why?" ::Some see things as they could be, and say "Why not?" ::Some see things that aren't there, and say "Huh?" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 05:16:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Jason Miller Subject: Re: G4-400 Depends how much engineering you're willing to do ;) http://forums.xlr8yourmac.com/ action.lasso?-database=faq.fp3&-layout=FaqList&-response= answer.faq.lasso&-recordID=33011&-search Q: Can I add a CDROM under the existing Blue and White G3 or G4 System CDrom Drive? A: No - the metal chassis is set for 3.5 inch drives only - but there was someone that removed the sheetmetal and did add one, however this is not recommended due to his report of temperature issues and the lack of anyone making a bezel for a 5.25 inch drive in that lower bay. As note here in the bezels question - www.proline.com makes ZIP, Jaz and other 3.5 inch drive bezels for the lower bay. Jason - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:56:27 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: G4-400 - - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - - - -- Mike Swedene is rumored to have mumbled on Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2001 10:05 Uhr -0800 regarding G4-400: > I have a g4-400 tower (single Processor) > is there an available bay to add a cd-writer in the > machine? No, you'd have to replace the built-in CD or DVD drive... Cheers, Sebastian - - - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 18:44:36 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: wha? Bath's finest wrote: >This reminds of the days when the Melody Maker used to insist that proper >group names were singular, as in "The Who is playing Charlton Athletic >stadium again this year". I have a nasty suspicion that the grammar is >correct, but it reads very oddly. first time I read this, my eyes skipped the word stadium. I can imagine Pete on the wing, Roger as one of those barge-through-the-defender centre forwards, John's height would be an advantage in the centre of the defence, and Keith would be the sort of annoying midfield who'd be unmarkable because he's never where you expect him to be. I'd pick them to win 3-0. >Kay summed up my opinion of The Strokes perfectly - both their music and >lyrics. > >>What they are is just too made to order. > >Compared to The White Stripes (who are in a lot ways quite comparable) they >just haven't got the same edge. They don't re-invent their influences in as >interesting or exciting a way. well that's just it. I really liked what I've heard of the White Stripes (admittedly I haven't heard their latest). The influences were just as obvious, but there was something new in there too - even if it was only the way the influences were mixed together. The Strokes leave me cold though. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:16:05 -0600 From: steve Subject: One last chance to brush up on your Tolkien NY Times Tolkien Archives - http://www.nytimes.com/specials/advertising/movies/tolkien/index.html And since all Fegs will have seen FOTR after 12/19, it's time to move on to future movies - new Spider-Man trailer - http://www.apple.com/trailers/columbia/spiderman/ Thru The Moebius Strip - http://www.moebius-strip.com - - Steve __________ As for "encouraging people of good will to remain silent in the face of evil," there's only one prominent person trying to intimidate legitimate critics into shutting up about actions they feel to be both wrong and deeply un-American at present. He is, unfortunately, the attorney general of the United States. - Jacob Weisberg ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:11:00 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: One last chance to brush up on your Tolkien >NY Times Tolkien Archives - >http://www.nytimes.com/specials/advertising/movies/tolkien/index.html > >new Spider-Man trailer - >http://www.apple.com/trailers/columbia/spiderman/ > >Thru The Moebius Strip - >http://www.moebius-strip.com Good gawd. I just can't help wondering if there's a Marilyn Manson list somewhere which is mysteriously discussing the films which Robyn Hitchcock fans were meant to discuss. Perhaps some supernatural neural transmigration between us and them? Eb, disgusted ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 02:17:10 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Scattered Tolkien thoughts On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Michael R Godwin wrote: > In contrast, most of FotR was rewritten about 5 times, getting through > such hobbits such as Bingo, Odo, Folco and Faramond in the process, > not to mention Peregrin Boffin, who eventually mutated into Aragorn > (Aragorn goes through about 11 maddening name-changes in the drafts). Um, where's all this information? I'd love to hear about early drafts. I really dig hearing about changes in the creative processes of others. > I do have reservations about Frodo's age, though - isn't he supposed > to be 33? Frodo is 33 at the very beginning, but by the time the ring sets out, he's 50. Mind, he's had the ring with him for fifteen years, so likely hasn't aged much. 33 is the hobbit age of majority, so like 18-21 for humans. Which is just where Mr. Wood sits. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:08:34 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Alarm Clocks Bachman, Michael wrote: > > Only if you press down the over dosing option button on the clock. oh, of course. I got mine secondhand on ebay, so it dodn't have instructions. I always wondered what that little lever was for... > I never knew > about the ice cube trick thing until I read Ben Fong Torres book on Gram. Is > that where you found out about it as well? No, at a wonderful gig/talk by the tall, friendly, sideburned sometime-Robyn co-conspirator Sid Griffin about Gram's life. Sid's a serious Gramophile. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:59:38 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: lyrics: Unprotected Love from the 3 August Assembly Rooms show: You were as hard as a diamond You could be used as a cutting tool Right at the forefront of industry Doing the cobra on everyone Wanting the whole of the universe Swallow yourself like infinity You are so hard You are so hard Nobody wants to be vulnerable Everyone wants to be miserable Just like a pig in the underpass Doing graffiti on everyone Carving yourself into diamonds Sharing a trough with the anti-Christ You are so hard You are so hard Give me unprotected love Like a baby in a football Like a fish inside a glove Give me unprotected love Um um um um um ... ma ma ma ma Um um um um um ... ma ma ma ma Give me unprotected love Like the chimney in the autumn Like a salmon high above Give me unprotected love Um um um um um ... ma ma ma ma Um um um um um ... ma ma ma ma You were as hard as a diamond [I lost count of the 'um's, sorry] Stewart - -- Stewart C. Russell, Kirkintilloch, Scotland - scruss@enterprise.net "...eat the fruit of the clue tree." - Sam Tracy http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:20:49 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: lyrics: A Man's Got To Know His Limitations, Briggs from the 4 August Assembly Rooms show (and, IIRC, very briefly excerpted on the BBC Scotland Janice Forsyth radio show earlier in the day): A man's got to know his limitations, Briggs Or he will just explode You lived in your imagination, Briggs And so you blew up in the road And I'm talking to you Yeah, you You were riding in your car in San Francisco Riding through the weather and the rain You were riding in your car in San Francisco But you're never going to ride that way again A girl's got to know her situation, Clint Or she might just revolve So if you have some information squint Not through the keyhole, or down the barrel of a gun And I'm talking to you Yeah, you that I'm talking to She was riding in her car in San Francisco She was riding through the weather and the rain She was riding in her car through San Francisco But I'm never going to ride with her again A boy's got to go just where you let him, Mel Or he might turn to sleep And if he does, you should forget him, Mel Unless you want him crawling through your dreams But I'm talking to you Yeah, you and you and you and Mel alone I was riding in your car in San Francisco I was riding through the weather and the rain I was riding in your car through San Francisco But I'm never going to ride with you again We all got a Briggs in us One that will explode I don't know about you folks But my Briggs is a toad A man's got to know his limitations, Briggs - -- Stewart C. Russell, Kirkintilloch, Scotland - scruss@enterprise.net "...eat the fruit of the clue tree." - Sam Tracy http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:17:11 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: nicking pits Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > Those were Oasis alarm clocks. or maybe, on suckage: Ocean Colour Scene alarm clock: can ring very loudly, but only after asking the Paul Weller alarm clock if it's okay to ring. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:53:30 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: The Quail at the Movies Sebastian writes, >And of course, >somewhat towards the end of the film there is an interview with one Allen >Rush! You never told us about that, did you? Your appartment looked very >nice. I liked the animals on your iMac! No, I never said anything about it... It seems even too off-topic for me! But I am surprised but pleased that they included my interview in the film, though sadly they botched my name! And to think, I asked for the name of "Quaalmensch!" - --Q PS: Lord of the Rings in.... 8 and a half hours..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:55:21 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: last chance to brush before you die On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Eb wrote: > Good gawd. I just can't help wondering if there's a Marilyn Manson > list somewhere which is mysteriously discussing the films which Robyn > Hitchcock fans were meant to discuss. Perhaps some supernatural > neural transmigration between us and them? > > Eb, disgusted Naw, nothing like that. Fegs just do not naturally develop artistically like everyone else. Especially when compared to the Marilyn Manson listmember types. You know, the ones who think Wilco and the Neville Brothers are over-rated. The rest of us still dream in color and admire Middle Earth superheroes on an equal level with all other superheroes. Heck, if I put the whole Baggins clan along side Siva and John Calvin, I would have to regard them all as equals. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:20:18 -0600 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Re: The Quail at the Movies > PS: Lord of the Rings in.... 8 and a half hours..... 9 hours and counting here. Saw a quick shot on TV of Frodo standing on what looked to be the back porch of Rivendell and it absolutely FLOORED me, it was so perfect. Such high hopes... Michael "not frightened enough" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:59:29 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: silvery tea On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, James Dignan wrote: > James ("...can't hear a word they're sayin'...") Only the echoes.....? gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:14:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: OT: Plea for help from librarian types! There are people here who are involved in the Library Sciences, right? Well, I'm considering looking into an MLS, and would like to know where on the 'net librarians hang out. And any clues in general would be appreciated, too. Feel free to contact me off-list, or in AOL IM (screen name DoorPie). Thanks a lot. Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:37:11 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: cheesy cure > From: "Natalie Jane" > > OK, here's another pet peeve of mine (and the beginning of yet another > ridiculous thread, no doubt) Yep! > I *really* hate it when people put band names > in quotes Yeah, that's annoying. I did always like, however, Morrissey's habit of putting album titles in quotes. MLA wouldn't approve, of course, but I thought it gave a certain je ne sais quoi to the whole affair. > From: "Mike Wells" > Pratchett can be terribly uneven, like I find Gaiman. Half his stuff I could > bag and the other half is fantastic. Maybe it's my medication. I fully agree with you about Gaiman, though I would tend to bag most of his prose, which I find amazingly awful. I stopped reading Discworld books after I'd gotten through six or so and realized they were all essentially the same and the jokes weren't as funny as Douglas Adams'(s). > From: Aaron Mandel > > Well, I wouldn't go that far. It shorts early Cure severely (maybe so the > DVD could have the same running order? I have no idea whether there were > videos for "Primary" et al.); There are, though they're really embarrassing for the most part. They're all on Staring at the Sea or whatever it is. I didn't really miss them, and fortunately the best videos -- the ones from Japanese Whispers and Disintegration -- are there. > the curious novice would be better off > buying Staring At The Sea + Galore. That was my original point, but it seems I'm wrong yet again. Ho hum. This curious novice finally got around to buying the PIL compilation disc, ten years after he originally wanted it. I love how cheap old-fart music can be. > From: "Jason R. Thornton" > the VHS (and perhaps DVD?) collections "Staring at the Sea" and > "Galore." No DVD yet -- I wish. > From: Miles Goosens > > founder and sole member of the "I don't get Stereolab, GbV, MBV, or > Pavement" Club Nonsense, I'm a member as well. Especially since I can't currently figure out what MBV is. > From: Jeff Dwarf > > the ones for "A Forest," "Play for Today," "Primary," and "Other > Voices" were just them lipsyncing with moody lighting. pretty boring. Ah, you missed the point: they were Robert Smith coiffure showcases. :) Drew - -- http://www.stormgreen.com/~drew/ "You're living in a global shopping mall, and you're the only person who still thinks there's a bloody exit." - Edina Monsoon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 08:41:22 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: Miles and I agree again (sort of) >Miles >founder and sole member of the "I don't get Stereolab, GbV, MBV, or >Pavement" Club I'll join your club, but only in the Pavement subsection. n. was playing: GBV, "Isolation Drills" _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 17:53:58 -0000 From: Subject: Re: Miles and I agree again (sort of) Ok. I'll take the GbV section. Melissa Natalie Jane said: > >Miles > >founder and sole member of the "I don't get Stereolab, GbV, MBV, or > >Pavement" Club > > I'll join your club, but only in the Pavement subsection. > > n. > > was playing: GBV, "Isolation Drills" > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > - -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:57:09 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: mike swedene, take note! (0% RRH, 100% RRR) this surprised me - my mom bought some action figures for one of her students for xmas, and one was labelled "Hermey". http://www.rankinbass.com/rudolph11.html - -- http://glasshotel.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 10:02:28 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Re: mike swedene, take note! (0% RRH, 100% RRR) Had this debate back in HS when i got the nickname (my hair does that "flip" thing in the front). In the claymation special they say it both ways. Herbie is a lot more fun than Hermey. Plus Hermey is too close to Hermes, and I was and am in NO WAY a love god. Thanks for the heads up! Herbie np ->Geraldo Rivera climbing thru a cave on FOX news - --- bayard wrote: > this surprised me - my mom bought some action > figures for one of her > students for xmas, and one was labelled "Hermey". > > http://www.rankinbass.com/rudolph11.html > > -- > http://glasshotel.net ===== - --------------------------------------------- View my Websight & CDR Trade page at: http://midy.topcities.com/ _____________________________________________ Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:33:39 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: cheesy cure On Wed, 19 Dec 2001, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > > the curious novice would be better off > > buying Staring At The Sea + Galore. > > That was my original point, but it seems I'm wrong yet again. Uh, yeah. I have been quick to pick nits, haven't I? Sorry about that. So, is there supposed to be a Cure b-sides collection on CD? Will there be? a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 13:51:08 -0600 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: new (temp) email addy I'll be re-subbing from a different address for the next couple weeks. If anyone needs to get a hold of me regarding open trades email to braneout@earthlink.net Michael "home for the holidays" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:34:36 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: Grammar Rock On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Michael R Godwin wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Natalie Jane wrote: > > OK, here's another pet peeve of mine (and the beginning of yet another > > ridiculous thread, no doubt) - I *really* hate it when people put band names > > in quotes, e.g.: "I went to see the 'Soft Boys' last night." Band names are > > *proper names*, not *titles,* and don't need quotes. > > This reminds of the days when the Melody Maker used to insist that proper > group names were singular, as in "The Who is playing Charlton Athletic > stadium again this year". I have a nasty suspicion that the grammar is > correct, but it reads very oddly. i guess it depends whether you think of a group as a cohesive unit or individuals who happen to be together. for instance, i think in a monty python sketch once eric idle says "the crowd are loving it!", which seems odd. in the example above, one could say "The group is playing..." because you are talking about one group, you use the singular, as i understand it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:47:14 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: Re: Lord of the Toilet Rings On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 BLATZMAN@aol.com wrote: > Instead of wrapping us up in a scene, Tolkien has much of the action occur > "off screen". Gandalf disappears, then shows up many chapters later to > "recount his tale"... It takes all the tension out, when the character shows > up alive and unharmed, and he just talks about what happened. And that > happens all over the books. ah, but as i recall, you're a filmmaker right? of course you'd prefer a more filmic way of doing things. i still remember the first time i read it, and i have to disagree, Gandalf's fate was a source of tension for me, more so than if the narrative had followed him. [Avoiding spoilers here.] Of course, now i know what happens... It seems like a bunch of people walking around, > talking about the adventures that happened off screen Yes, but this is all meant to be presented as a history. Not a straight action type adventure (which is what the film will be since they have limited screen time to pack in all the action scenes.) > Next, the book structure... By Return of the King, it is so Freakin Annoying > to finish book 5, only to go back in time and start book 6. How about just > keeping up with the characters in real time, building tension as the story > goes. Agreed here, at least when i was a kid, i didn't want to have to wait to find out what would happen to the other group of characters, so i skipped ahead. (I skipped ahead to look for Gandalf too) > Next, the fucking characters burst into song at every corner. I usually skip the songs, personally. > Yes, it will be a better movie, mostly becuase, in my opinion, it's a great > story told very poorly it will be different, and one will prefer the presentation that is more to one's liking. I'm interested to see what I think of the film. =b ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #469 ********************************