From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #461 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, December 13 2001 Volume 10 : Number 461 Today's Subjects: ----------------- dark of the sun ["ross taylor" ] Re: Burning with Confusion [Ken Weingold ] Re: I'm an old pedant... [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: if i can't dance it's not my revolution [Tom Clark ] Bablicon ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: Burning with Fusion ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Burning with Confusion [Ken Weingold ] RE: instruments ["da9ve stovall" ] Re: Burning with Confusion [dmw ] Lothar and the genitive [Jill Brand ] (in)flammability ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: Burning Snot with Confusion [Ken Weingold ] Re: Lothar and the genitive ["Sumiko Keay" ] Who needs a Segway? [Tom Clark ] early Internet [Eb ] Pulp [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: early Internet [strange little woj ] Re: Lothar and the genitive ["madcowan" ] What are words worth? [grutness@surf4nix.com] Re: early Internet [Viv Lyon ] Re: instruments ["Stewart C. Russell" ] sticker madness [Eclipse ] Re: What are words worth? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: dark of the sun ["matt sewell" ] Re: early Internet [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:05:16 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: dark of the sun I guess it's getting to be time to haul out my favorite Christmas record, Oi to the World, by the Vandals. Haji was a punk just like any other boy And he never had no trouble until he started up his Oi band, safe in the garage or singing in the tub Till Haji went to far and he plugged in at the pub Twas a cold Christmas eve when Trevor and the skins popped in for a pint and to nick a back of crisps Trevor liked the music but not the Unity So he unwound Haji's turban and knocked him to his knees If god came down on Christmas Day I know exactly what he'd say He'd say "Oi to the punks and Oi to the skins but Oi to the world and everybody wins!" Haji was a bloody mess, he ran out thru the crowd he said "we'll meet again we are bloody but unbowed" Trevor called his bluff and told him where to meet Christmas day on the roof down 20 Oxford street If god came down on Christmas Day I know exactly what he'd say He'd say "Oi to the punks and Oi to the skins but Oi to the world and everybody wins!" On the roof with the nun chucks Trevor broke a lot of bones But Haji had a sword like that guy in Indiana Jones Police sirens wailing, a bloody dying man, Haji was alone and abandoned his band Trevor was there fading and still so full of hate when the skins left him there and went down the fire escape But then Haji saw the north star shining more then ever So he made a tourniquet from his turban saving Trevor they repelled down the roof with the rest of the turban and went back to the pub where they bought each other bourbon If god came down on Christmas Day I know exactly what he'd say He'd say "Oi to the punks and Oi to the skins but Oi to the world and everybody wins!" "A Gun for Christmas" "Grandpa's Last Christmas" "Thanks for Nothing" "Christmas Time for My Penis" "My First Christmas as a Woman" "The Dance of the Sugarplum Fairies" "Hang Myself from the Tree" Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:36:48 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Burning with Confusion On Wed, Dec 12, 2001, Ken Ostrander wrote: > >Just like Dr. Nick Riviera, I'm totally lost at sea as to whether something > that can burn > >is flammable or inflammable. I realize that it is "inflammable" in French and > Spanish, > >but in my native language...? Is this a British/American usage split? > > flammable and inflammable are synonyms. go figure. i think it's the same with > british and english; but the real question is "is anything really fireproof?" "Usage Note: Historically, flammable and inflammable mean the same thing. However, the presence of the prefix in- has misled many people into assuming that inflammable means not flammable or noncombustible. The prefix -in in inflammable is not, however, the Latin negative prefix -in, which is related to the English -un and appears in such words as indecent and inglorious. Rather, this -in is an intensive prefix derived from the Latin preposition in. This prefix also appears in the word enflame. But many people are not aware of this derivation, and for clarity's sake it is advisable to use only flammable to give warnings" From dictionary.com. :) - -Ken (non-kenster) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:10:10 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: I'm an old pedant... On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Redtailed Hawk wrote: > Perrin's "The Reference Handbook of Grammer and Usage", which is a greatest > hits version of his venerable "Writer's Guide and Index to English", says > Also--people trying to reproduce text which uses italics may use apostrophes > to transcribe the italics. ;-) A-ha! This last item explains something a lot of my students do, which I asked about & received no answer on some time ago: use single quotations marks ('like this') to designate words they wish to disown in some fashion: Kenny G. is a 'musician.' I'm thinking they must have been taught from this book? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::flag on the moon...how'd it get there?:: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:15:19 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: if i can't dance it's not my revolution on 12/11/01 5:46 PM, Ken Ostrander at kenster@MIT.EDU wrote: > > http://www.prisonbitchname.com/index.htm > > I would like to hereby request that disclaimers be posted along with any URL that will pop up ad windows and try to set countless cookies. Thank you for your cooperation. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:30:17 US/Eastern From: hydra@voicenet.com Subject: Re: Burning with Confusion Thanks all...what sparked this was a large sign with big white letters saying "FLAMMABLE INFLAMMABLE INFLAMMABLE" with additional small-text instructions under each heading in English, Spanish, and French. So what is the antonym of "inflammable?" "Non-combustible?" Jon > On Wed, Dec 12, 2001, Ken Ostrander wrote: > > >Just like Dr. Nick Riviera, I'm totally lost at sea as to whether something > > that can burn > > >is flammable or inflammable. I realize that it is "inflammable" in French and > > Spanish, > > >but in my native language...? Is this a British/American usage split? > > > > flammable and inflammable are synonyms. go figure. i think it's the same with > > british and english; but the real question is "is anything really fireproof?" > > "Usage Note: Historically, flammable and inflammable mean the same > thing. However, the presence of the prefix in- has misled many people > into assuming that inflammable means not flammable or > noncombustible. The prefix -in in inflammable is not, however, the > Latin negative prefix -in, which is related to the English -un and > appears in such words as indecent and inglorious. Rather, this -in is > an intensive prefix derived from the Latin preposition in. This prefix > also appears in the word enflame. But many people are not aware of > this derivation, and for clarity's sake it is advisable to use only > flammable to give warnings" > > From dictionary.com. :) > > > -Ken (non-kenster) > - --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Voicenet WebMail. http://www.voicenet.com/webmail/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:34:41 -0600 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Re: Burning with Confusion Jon quizzed: > So what is the antonym of "inflammable?" Jim J. Bullock? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:37:23 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: Bablicon >Hey! Natalie you've seen Bablicon! One of my favourite bands ever! Yes, you may read about the exciting experience (as well as the infamous "gnome-kissing" incident) at http://www.bitmine.net/~gnat/otcchi.html n., who spent her gnome-kissing money on beer _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 11:41:00 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Burning with Fusion At 02:30 PM 12/12/2001 +0000, hydra@voicenet.com wrote: >So what is the antonym of "inflammable?" "Non-combustible?" Yes, as well as "nonflammable" and "noninflammable." And "it don't burn." - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:48:16 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Burning with Confusion On Wed, Dec 12, 2001, hydra@voicenet.com wrote: > So what is the antonym of "inflammable?" "Non-combustible?" NOMEX. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:00:46 -0800 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: RE: instruments >But my favourite has to be Knurl, who plays the electric >toaster on the box set of the 1998 No Music Festival >organised by the NSB. Boy, does he make that thing wail!!! I've seen Heywood Banks play the acoustic toaster (at least, it wasn't plugged in) a few times. He hits it with either a fork or a spoon - I don't know which. I think Tom Waits also used an optigan - well, it's spelled "optigon" - - on several songs on _Franks Wild Years_ (which doesn't have an apostrophe). I also see lots of interesting percussion objects on _Swordfishtrombones_ - a brake drum, metal aunglongs, a glass harmonica (well, that's not a percussion device). . . . I note Francis Thumm is credited with playing a Stinson Band Organ on Tom's _Night on Earth_ soundtrack. Anybody know what the hell that is? da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 15:50:51 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: Burning with Confusion On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Ken Weingold wrote: > into assuming that inflammable means not flammable or EWww! Is it really!? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:02:35 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: Lothar and the genitive Is the band just called The Lothars? When I was a child (eons ago), my brother had a much-loved record by a band named Lothar and the Hand People, and I believe that Lothar was a Theremin. Since you all know much more about this stuff than I do, could someone tell me if I'm right and if there is a link? And Kay wrote (HI KAY!): "Analogous to possessives, and formed like them, are expressions based on the old genitive case, e.g., an hour's delay, in three days' time and Charles's having been there." The last example (Charles's having been there) follows the rule of all gerunds. When a noun precedes a gerund, it must be in the possessive form (Do you object to *my* smoking, I appreciate Mary's saving the day, etc.). Is this any more genitive than any other possessive? I mean, all possessives are genitives, right? In English, pronouns (I, me my, I, me, my, I, me, my) and 's are the only remaining signs of case grammar, no? Am I making any sense? Jill, who is off to 2.5 hours of Bandarama, in which children from ages 9-18 will be playing their favorite blowing instruments in the high school gym - beware, all you pre-parents ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:11:36 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: (in)flammability > From: Christopher Gross > > "In-" is a somewhat archaic intensifier, so "inflammable" means "highly > flammable." However, since "in" is much more commonly a negative prefix, > "inflammable" has been fallen into disuse for fear that people will think > it means "not flammable." It's not so much a British-American split as a > correct-technically correct but misleading split. I always figured "inflammable" came from "to inflame," which made a little more sense than "flammable" coming from "to flame." "Can be set on fire" versus "can be insulted on Usenet." On a musical note, what do people think of the new Pulp? Drew - -- http://www.stormgreen.com/~drew/ "You're living in a global shopping mall, and you're the only person who still thinks there's a bloody exit." - Edina Monsoon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:21:46 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Burning Snot with Confusion On Wed, Dec 12, 2001, dmw wrote: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Ken Weingold wrote: > > > into assuming that inflammable means not flammable or > > EWww! Is it really!? Dammit. Font didn't translate properly copying and pasting. So, is snot flammable? - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:20:08 -0600 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: Lothar and the genitive Jill, I'm acquainted (via another computer forum) w/one of the Lothars and he says that they named their band after "Lothar and the Hand People" because they have multiple theremins. Here's their website: http://www.wobblymusic.com/lothars Sumiko >>> Jill Brand 12/12/01 03:02PM >>> Is the band just called The Lothars? When I was a child (eons ago), my brother had a much-loved record by a band named Lothar and the Hand People, and I believe that Lothar was a Theremin. Since you all know much more about this stuff than I do, could someone tell me if I'm right and if there is a link? And Kay wrote (HI KAY!): "Analogous to possessives, and formed like them, are expressions based on the old genitive case, e.g., an hour's delay, in three days' time and Charles's having been there." The last example (Charles's having been there) follows the rule of all gerunds. When a noun precedes a gerund, it must be in the possessive form (Do you object to *my* smoking, I appreciate Mary's saving the day, etc.). Is this any more genitive than any other possessive? I mean, all possessives are genitives, right? In English, pronouns (I, me my, I, me, my, I, me, my) and 's are the only remaining signs of case grammar, no? Am I making any sense? Jill, who is off to 2.5 hours of Bandarama, in which children from ages 9-18 will be playing their favorite blowing instruments in the high school gym - beware, all you pre-parents ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:52:25 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Who needs a Segway? When you can have a Megway? http://web.0sil8.com/episodes/megway/index.html - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:55:20 -0800 From: Eb Subject: early Internet Weird...Google has recently expanded its Usenet archive back to *1981*. Wow, when I think of the meager computer knowledge I had in 1981, and that Usenet actually *existed* back then. I had fiddled with an early Apple computer that a friend owned (we played some moronic game called "Lemonade" which loaded from a *cassette player*), but the concept of personal communication *between different computers* didn't even occur to me until several years later. Looks like the post below is the very first post in Google's archive. Note the weird email-address formats, and the totally generic newsgroup name. Sounds like they're still working out the bugs of the whole concept? And just to be on-topic, the second post looks like the very first mention of *Robyn Hitchcock* on Usenet. The content of the Hitchcock post is oddly familiar...it might as well have been written this year! (Note that Usenet was in existence for over four years before Hitchcock's name turned up. :)) Eb - ------------------------------------------------------ From: arpavax:mark (arpavax:mark) Subject: Re: newsgroup fa, net, etc. Newsgroups: net.general Date: 1981-05-11 10:09:47 PST From sdcarl!rusty Mon May 11 09:00:58 1981 To: ucbvax^mark Subject: newsgroup fa, net, etc. Won't we need to change the .ngfile also? Also is ALL an acceptable newsgroup on the left side of the dot such that ALL.ALL will catch everything? Rusty is right (or is that "Rusty is Wright"?) - we have ALL in our .ngfile so I tend to forget this. ALL.ALL may or may not work, but ALL certainly does. Mark I plan to make the change on Tuesday unless something horrible happens. - ------------------------------------------------------ From: chrisb@haddock.UUCP (chrisb@haddock.UUCP) Subject: Robyn Hitchcock, etc. Newsgroups: net.music Date: 1985-06-06 08:32:00 PST A few weeks ago someone wrote something about Robyn Hitchcock and the Soft Boys. I am heavy into this guy and his bands, and have several of his/their albums: 1. Soft Boys- "A Can Of Bees" Their first and probably most twisted album. Raw production and lyrics that could send a nun into a bad trip make this a challenging record to listen to. 2. Soft Boys- "Only The Stones Remain" The first side is studio stuff, the second is live. Features a version of the Syd Barrett classic "Astronomy Domine". Best cut: "Where are the Prawns?". 3. Soft Boys- "Invisible Hits" This may be the best batch yet. Vicious lyrics. What can I say? He writes beautiful songs. 4. Soft Boys- "Underwater Moonlight" Probably their most well-produced/ commercial-sounding album, but has some killer numbers on it. 5. Robyn Hithcock-"Black Snake Diamond Roll" Good Solid Acidified pop. 6. Kimberley Rew-"The Bible of Bop" features songs by the dB's (with Mitch Easter), an early version of the Waves, and the Soft Boys. There's a great song by the dB's on there called "my baby does her hair-do long". I know that he has a new band called The Egyptions with an album out. What I've heard of it is good. They are supposed to be coming to play in Boston on July 5. I hope they make it. Why do great bands like this go unnoticed by the masses in this country? Do Americans really have bad taste, or are they just brain-washed by the evil business people in the music industry? It seems that most people only get into tunes which are the musical equivalent of Wonder Bread. Lame, boring and uninspired. I hate Madonna, Micheal Jackson, and most of the crappola I see on MTV. Does anybody else? The only place where it is possible to hear good new music is at the left end of the radio dial: college stations. WMBR in Boston is the best one. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:14:14 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Pulp "Andrew D. Simchik" wrote: > On a musical note, what do people think of the new Pulp? based on the first two-three listens, i'd probably rank it below This is Hardcore, but above Different Class. it's more organic sounding than either. with finals, etc, I've haven't listened to it as much as i would have. i suspect it'll end up being with my top 8 or so. ===== "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:20:03 -0500 From: strange little woj Subject: Re: early Internet when we last left our heroes, Eb exclaimed: >And just to be on-topic, the second post looks like >the very first mention of *Robyn Hitchcock* on Usenet. this post is even more on-topic: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9103102124.aa13737%40pebbles.sct.clarkson.edu +w ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 22:59:38 -0500 From: "madcowan" Subject: Re: Lothar and the genitive OK Jill, this is from http://www.lotharandthehandpeople.com/ Figures they'd have a website... 8-) Roberta [band member Richard] Willis, in classic hippie fashion, came up with the band's appellation while he was sleeping; he had a dream in which an enslaved race called the Hand People was saved by a hero named Lothar, and when he related the scenario to his fellows, who'd been stumped in their search for a trippy handle, the moniker stuck. Only later did they decide that a theremin owned by [lead singer John] Emelin was actually the group's namesake. "People would always ask, 'Who's Lothar?', and we wouldn't know what to tell them," Conly says. "But finally we realized that Lothar had been there all along." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 17:10:10 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: What are words worth? >While I'm happy to be the center of attention, I have two problems with >the above rules. (I agree with your earlier points.) One is simple. >"Gross," like "bass" or "glass" or "ass," is actually a singular noun that >happens to end in a double S. The plural would be "Grosses," and the >plural possessive, "Grosses'." Aw c'mon. Everyone knows the plural of Gross is 288. >> See, one of the problems is that a bunch of 19c pedants, mistakenly >> believing that all languages had to act like Latin or Greek, attempted to >> force-fit rules from those languages into English. The "ending in a >> preposition" prohibition was one of them, I believe: my fave rebuttal to >> which remains Mr. Churchill's "That is the sort of nonsense up with which >> I will not put." (Another is the ridiculous stricture against split >> infinitives - of course you can't split an infinitive in Latin: since >> they're one word, it's imfuckingpossible to split them. Well, maybe not.) > >That's funny. In a Linguistics class of mine, the teacher was talking >about infixes and how English doesn't really have them. The only >example he could think of was 'in-fucking-credible'. anyone who has ever seen "A fish called Wanda" knows that unbefuckinglievable is also used. reminds me of an English class where the teacher stated that two negatives in a row lead to an affirmative, but there were no examples in english of the opposite. At which point a voice from the class was heard: "yeah - right." >Just like Dr. Nick Riviera, I'm totally lost at sea as to whether >something that can burn >is flammable or inflammable. I realize that it is "inflammable" in French >and Spanish, >but in my native language...? Is this a British/American usage split? technically, it's both. It is flammable, in that it can flame, i.e., burn, and it is inflammable, in that is can be caused to inflame, i.e., catch fire. In this case, the in- prefix does not indicate a negative. There are one or two other pairs of words that look like opposites in English due to their in-, un- or a- prefixes, which are actually near-synonyms. Often this is because the meaning of one of the wordshas changed over time or the original root words are not the same. Accede/cede, unloosen/loosen, and invaluable/valuable are three such pairs. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 22:48:42 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: early Internet Oh man! I did a search for my name, and what do you know? I don't even remember posting all that stuff. Like a time machine, that was. And it was amazing to discover that, four years before I joined Fegmaniax, Jeme, Natalie, and I were on rec.arts.tv.mst3k together! Hot damn! Ach, it's a small world. A small and funny old world. Other searches were also amusing, for different reasons. "Gondola Bob," for instance, kept me away from my studies for a good half-hour of hilarity. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:49:07 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: instruments da9ve stovall wrote: > > Francis Thumm is credited with playing a Stinson Band Organ on > Tom's _Night on Earth_ soundtrack. Anybody know what the hell > that is? These guys might: http://www.stinsonorganco.com/notes.htm If you ever find yourself in Utrecht, treat(y) yourself to a visit here: http://www.museumspeelklok.nl/EHome.htm -- the mechanical music museum. It's wonderful, even if everything is in Dutch. Tommy, the long-departed bass/brass player for Eels, used to play the drain cover. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:55:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Eclipse Subject: sticker madness hey gang, i recently decided to further face the music and give up my beloved car. long story short, no job == no bmw. but, all is not lost; i traded it in for a 99 vw beetle, just as cool in its own way. :) anyway, the point of my story: i'm looking for a RH sticker for my car. i have the 'star for bram' sticker, but i thought i'd poke around and see if anyone has one they'd be willing to part with (with some kind of recompensation, of course) or knows where i can buy one? i wouldn't know where to start. most thankfully, Eclipse - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Eclipse | eclipse@eclipse.best.vwh.net (clunky enough for you?) If this is not what you expected, please alter your expectations. "i guess one person can make a difference - but most of the time, they probably shouldn't." - Marge Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:55:57 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: What are words worth? grutness@surf4nix.com wrote: > > Accede/cede, unloosen/loosen, and > invaluable/valuable are three such pairs. then of course there's the wonderful verb "cleave", which is its own negative by meaning both "to split" and "to join". Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:29:38 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: early Internet Eb wrote: > > Looks like the post below is the very first post in Google's archive. > Note the weird email-address formats wow, there's some stuff there with the old UK JANET address format: clcp16@uk.ac.strath.vaxa, which would now read (if I still had that address) clcp16@vaxa.strath.ac.uk Ah, that's when reading Usenet was in a cold engineering lab, using an Atari 1040ST with a VT52 terminal emulator desk accessory to talk to the vax over a Gandalf serial line that you had to toggle like mad to wake up the connection... > and the totally generic > newsgroup name. Sounds like they're still working out the bugs of the > whole concept? no, all the groups got renamed in 1987; they were all net.* before then. Details: http://www.linux.it/~md/usenet/gr.html All this means, of course, is that I'm going to get asked about GFA Basic and AmigaTeX that I reviewed for comp.sys.amiga.reviews back in 1991... argh. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:38:28 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: dark of the sun Those Christmas songs sound just my cup of beer, Ross... any chance of artists/albums/availability? Cheers Matt >From: "ross taylor" >Reply-To: "ross taylor" >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: dark of the sun >Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:05:16 -0500 > >I guess it's getting to be time to haul out my >favorite Christmas record, Oi to the World, by >the Vandals. > > >Haji was a punk just like any other boy >And he never had no trouble until he started up his Oi band, >safe in the garage or singing in the tub >Till Haji went to far and he plugged in at the pub >Twas a cold Christmas eve when Trevor and the >skins >popped in for a pint and to nick a back of >crisps >Trevor liked the music but not the Unity >So he unwound Haji's turban and knocked him to his knees >If god came down on Christmas Day >I know exactly what he'd say >He'd say "Oi to the punks and Oi to the skins >but Oi to the world and everybody wins!" > >Haji was a bloody mess, he ran out thru the crowd >he said "we'll meet again we are bloody but unbowed" >Trevor called his bluff and told him where to meet >Christmas day on the roof down 20 Oxford street >If god came down on Christmas Day >I know exactly what he'd say >He'd say "Oi to the punks and Oi to the skins >but Oi to the world and everybody wins!" > > >On the roof with the nun chucks Trevor broke a lot of bones >But Haji had a sword like that guy in Indiana Jones > > >Police sirens wailing, a bloody dying man, >Haji was alone and abandoned his band >Trevor was there fading and still so full of hate >when the skins left him there and went down the fire escape >But then Haji saw the north star shining more then ever >So he made a tourniquet from his turban saving Trevor >they repelled down the roof with the rest of the turban >and went back to the pub where they bought each other bourbon >If god came down on Christmas Day >I know exactly what he'd say >He'd say "Oi to the punks and Oi to the skins >but Oi to the world and everybody wins!" > > > >"A Gun for Christmas" >"Grandpa's Last Christmas" >"Thanks for Nothing" >"Christmas Time for My Penis" >"My First Christmas as a Woman" >"The Dance of the Sugarplum Fairies" >"Hang Myself from the Tree" > > >Ross Taylor > > > > > > >Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 01:40:58 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: early Internet > > and the totally generic >> newsgroup name. Sounds like they're still working out the bugs of the >> whole concept? > >no, all the groups got renamed in 1987; they were all net.* before then. >Details: http://www.linux.it/~md/usenet/gr.html My "bugs" comment referred to the tech content of the message, not the newsgroup name. Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #461 ********************************