From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #441 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, November 27 2001 Volume 10 : Number 441 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: they ARE giants! ["Fric Chaud" ] RE: Dr Fegg [Jay Lyall ] Re: Reprocushions [gSs ] Re: Reprocushions [Viv Lyon ] stroke me, stroke me ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] jeff beck sydney 1977 trade ? [minister of misinformation ] Re: James Joyce ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: James Joyce [The Great Quail ] Re: James Joyce (+ RH postscript) [Michael R Godwin ] Robyn on Omnibus [Jill Brand ] The nasty Dr Bert Fegg ["Redtailed Hawk" ] Re: The nasty Dr Bert Fegg [Eleanore Adams ] [Fwd: LEGO Studios Screening Room] [Eleanore Adams ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:15:41 -0500 From: "Fric Chaud" Subject: Re: they ARE giants! On 26 Nov 2001, at 9:27, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Wow, were TMBG fun last night! > > Any TMBG fans on the list may do well to contact me > offlist, IYKWIM.. Is You Kin Well Im Magine? That must be Scotch. - -- Fric Chaud ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:17:32 -0600 From: Jay Lyall Subject: RE: Dr Fegg Bert Fegg's Nasty Book for Boys & Girls http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/exchange-glance/Y01Y5971366Y4300733/qid= 1006827293/sr=1-1/103-8701498-0315000 Cheers Jay - ----------------------------- Jay Lyall http://home.swbell.net/jlyall The moon rattles like a piece of angry candy. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Redtailed Hawk Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 2:49 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Dr Fegg Eleanore: >I was looking at my husbands bookshelf and saw this book: Dr. fegg's >encyclopedia of all world knowledge by terry jones and michael >palin....... Now -this- is important. Is there any mention in the book of why it's called Dr. Fegg's? And what - -is- all world knowledge? And--does Robyn get a cut of the take? Ahhhh, the game's playing footsies again Watson.:-) Kay A man's life of any worth is a continual allegory. John Keats _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:45:39 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Reprocushions On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Viv Lyon wrote: > They are obvious. Especially in this sweater. Were you wearing a brassiere when you wrote that? Just wondering. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:02:10 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: Reprocushions On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, gSs wrote: > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Viv Lyon wrote: > > > They are obvious. Especially in this sweater. > > Were you wearing a brassiere when you wrote that? Just wondering. Um, yes. It's just that it was a form-fitting sweater. That's all. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 00:59:51 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: stroke me, stroke me > From: "Redtailed Hawk" > Theres a male and female who sorta circle around each other but so far don't > land. The female I've got abit of a handle on--she's shy with certain > people, has bad eyesight and constantly doubts her own perceptions. It takes > her awhile to process stuff. She wants to talk to the guy, who always seems > to just appear out of the blue and then be gone. But he keeps reappearing, > or people who are his double do(theres always that possibility), and she's > puzzled, disappointed, hurt, angry, puzzled, sad, amused, bemused and, did I > mention, puzzled? For one thing, she dosn't really know where the guy is > coming from. Is it a cheap thrill to play with her mind? And if so--why? > She's pretty unaveragly average. Is he trying to make contact and having a > difficult time of it? What's going on? First let me admit that I have never had this sort of problem in my writing before. I think I must be doing something wrong, because I never have this experience other writers describe where my characters "come to life" and do and say things "on their own" that I can't explain. This is not to say that my writing is always planned -- far from it -- but if I've written something I can't make sense of, I tend to assume not that the character is telling me something but that I've just been too random for my own good, and need to revise until it makes sense to me. Does this mean I'm a hack? Second, my answer to your question is that the woman is a fantasy for him. Not talking here about an unattainable love goddess, but just someone he sees and daydreams about being lovers with. The dream isn't real to him; it's only slightly more possible in his worldview than winning the lottery or finding the cure to cancer. He likes to think about it but doesn't think she gives him a second thought. He's not really depressed about this, because something has to be in reach for its loss to hurt. If he learned she thought he was worth paying attention to, he wouldn't have a clue where to begin. It would be as though someone had handed him a test tube and a lab coat and a culture and said "go to it, you should have a head start with what's in that tube". Third, the Strokes are growing on me, just as predicted. Damn it. Drew - -- http://www.stormgreen.com/ "You're living in a global shopping mall, and you're the only person who still thinks there's a bloody exit." - Edina Monsoon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 22:43:18 +1030 From: minister of misinformation Subject: jeff beck sydney 1977 trade ? this one for retro fegs only I have recently discovered an uncirculated tape of Beck with Jan Hammer Sydney Feb 1977, which I have burnt to Cd. It was recorded with a nak deck and shure mics, very good to excellent sound , around 100 minutes . This is the first time this has been traded and I'm offering it to anyone who has a good stash of Jeff Beck , Mclaughlin , Crimson or any other top quality fusion/Rock stuff. let me know if you are interested in a trade cheers Commander Lang ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 05:27:01 -0500 From: FricChaud@videotron.ca Subject: Re: Dear Feg She's a fig mint of his imagination. That's why she can't focus sometimes, because that's when he's not thinking about her world. That's why he pops in and out as different people . Of course. - -- "He's a super fric super fric he's super fric meow!" - -- Rick Dees ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:51:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: James Joyce On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, The Great Quail wrote: > The real root of this problem lies with James Joyce's grandson, > Stephen, who holds the reins of the estate in an iron grip. [snip] > The fact of the matter is that most people now just ignore Stephen's > nay-saying and hope that his 100 other legal battles causes him to > wink at minor transgressions -- composers setting Joyce to music, > excerpts of Joycana texts being used in other forms, plays and > musicals based on Joyce's books, that sort of thing. Thanks for this info. I wonder if he knows about Syd Barrett's musical arrangement of 'Golden Hair'? It's been around for 30 years and I've never heard of any attempt to suppress it. I confess to remaining a sceptic about JJ. The only book of his that I have finished is POtAaaYM, which I thought was tedious in the extreme. But I really like Flann O'Brien and Anthony Burgess, both of whom rate him highly. I put him in that things-that-might-have-been-tremendously significant-between-the-wars-but-don't-make-a-heck-of-a-lot-of-difference - -nowadays box along with Orson Welles and Aldous Huxley. Am I missing a treat? - - Mike Godwin n.p. "No good trying" from 'Madcap Laughs' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:02:29 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: James Joyce > Aldous Huxley. oh, c'mon. You've got to like "Island". It's like reality TV -- with psychedelics! Stewart (in shallow mode today) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:57:45 -0800 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: James Joyce Mike writes, >I confess to remaining a sceptic about JJ. The only book of his that I >have finished is POtAaaYM, which I thought was tedious in the extreme. But >I really like Flann O'Brien and Anthony Burgess, both of whom rate him >highly. I put him in that things-that-might-have-been-tremendously >significant-between-the-wars-but-don't-make-a-heck-of-a-lot-of-difference >-nowadays box along with Orson Welles and Aldous Huxley. Am I missing a >treat? Well.... "I confess to remaining a sceptic about RH. The only album of his that I have listened to is BSDR, which I thought was weird in the extreme. But I really like Tim Keegan and Peter Buck, both of whom rate him highly. I put him in that things- that- might- have- been- tremendously- significant- right- after- the- sixties- but- don't- make- a- heck- of- a- lot- of- difference- nowadays box along with the Beach Boys and The Beatles. Am I missing a treat?" Heh heh....But seriously, Joyce may not be to your taste, that's all. Though I would take issue with your "box" -- Joyce is largely considered to be the best writer in the English language since Shakespeare. Representing the late bloom of late nineteenth century anti-Romantic writing, his revolutionary short stories in "Dubliners" were rivalled only by Chekov, and still stand today as some of the most effective pieces of short fiction ever written. Evolving to embody the high water mark of Modernism, "Portrait" and "Ulysses" utterly changed the face of the novel, in theme, style, language, narrative, characterization, and the demands it placed upon the reader. And "Finnegans Wake" threw open the doors to Postmodernism, becoming the "open work" without rival, standing as a unique and unrepeatable moment on modern literature, a whirlpool of languages and styles shaped by Joyce's linguistic genius over 700 pages of non-linear puns, puzzles, and epiphanies. Joyce has influenced far more than interwar literature or O'Brien and Burgess; his stamp is on nearly every important writer to follow him, from Beckett to Borges, from Faulkner to Fuentes, from Pynchon to DeLillo, from Rushdie to Eco and so on.... That being said, he *still* might not be to your taste. Like Shakespeare, some people just don't enjoy his writing, or have the inclination to wade through a certain type of narrative and language. Not everyone likes Beethoven, Picasso or Einstein, either -- being a genius doesn't necessarily mean everyone digs what you are doing! (Though with Einstein, they might not have much of a choice.) From a rabid Joyce freak, - --Quail - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.TheModernWord.com "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us of Emailia!" --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:59:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: James Joyce (+ RH postscript) On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, The Great Quail wrote: > Joyce has influenced far more than interwar literature or O'Brien and > Burgess; his stamp is on nearly every important writer to follow him, > from Beckett to Borges, from Faulkner to Fuentes, from Pynchon to > DeLillo, from Rushdie to Eco and so on.... Well, I read that Rose thing, and it struck me as second rate Conan Doyle, but that may partly be the irritating translation ("pits" instead of "pips" etc). The book of Borges stories that I read a long time ago had some good ideas in it, but no characterisation: I did like the one about the man who tried to write Quixote word for word. Beckett is the author with lots of close-ups of Billie Whitelaw's lips, right? And Pozzo, Estragon and Vladimir? Not too sure about the others, although a mate of mine once met Rushdie. > "Countlessness of livestories have netherfallen by this plage, flick > as flowflakes, litters from aloft, like a waast wizzard all of > whirlworlds. Now are all tombed to the mound, isges to isges, erde > from erde . . . (Stoop) if you are abcedminded, to this claybook, > what curious of signs (please stoop) in this allaphbed! Can you rede > (since We and Thou had it out already) its world? . . . Speak to us > of Emailia!" > --James Joyce, Finnegans Wake Translation, please? I know 'erde' or 'arda' is earth as in middle-earth, and 'rede' is counsel and is an anagram of 'erde', but 'plage' is surely Fr. for beach? What is 'claybook'? And some of those other formulations don't look like words at all. Wizard is definitely spelt wrong (cf. Roy Wood's W.). At a guess, allaphbed is a reworking of alphabet but using the Hebrew aleph instead of the Gk alpha - but why? That 'abcedminded' could have been another alphabet reference if the d had come before the e, but it doesn't, so it probably isn't. Interesting mention of e-mail, however - I suspect that some of those recently published bits have been got at! Has anyone got a Harper Collins dictionary out there? I suspect that JJ would have been expelled from the world Scrabble championships at an early stage :) - - Mike "take those Russell Hoban books away" Godwin PS On the Jennings front: Jennings to Robyn Hitchcock in 3: Jennings was played by Jimmy Page on TV (all facts korrekt for a change); Jimmy Page played the solo on Donovan's 'Hurdy Gurdy Man' (I think); Robyn Hitchcock has appeared on the Mountain Stage with Donovan. QED! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:09:41 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: Robyn on Omnibus Omnibus is a TV show, yes? If so, if some nice Brit tapes it for us, I can convert it to NTSC format for all the young fegs. I know that it costs a fortune to have things converted, and that is why I have a PAL/NTSC machine (I get lots of videos from England and Germany). If there is much interest, maybe we could make a bit of a tree (not too many sub-branches, though, because videotape does lose quality with each generation - can't wait until we can burn our own DVDs). Jill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:12:19 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: The nasty Dr Bert Fegg Meaning has to be shared to be real. Mark Kingwell At one time my library owned this book: Jones, Terry, 1942- Title : Dr. Fegg's encyclopeadia [sic] of all world knowledge : formerly The nasty book / Terry Jones & Michael Palin ; [illustrated by Martin Honeysett]. Call Number : 827 J726d Publisher : New York : P. Bedrick Books, 1985, c1984. Holdings : Contact library staff for more information. But then someone took it out on "extended loan" before I could take it out on "extended loan." Phooey! And poopy shoes too! Alas, everything I love is doomed, Doomed, DOOMED, I say! But I -am- going to try interlibrary loan. Kay Meaning has to be shared to be real. Mark Kingwell _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:13:23 -0800 (PST) From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: The nasty Dr Bert Fegg - --- Redtailed Hawk wrote: > Meaning has to be shared to be real. > Mark Kingwell > When I am done w finals, i'll post the book info off of my husbands copy... e > > > At one time my library owned this book: > > Jones, Terry, 1942- > Title : > Dr. Fegg's encyclopeadia [sic] of all > world knowledge : > formerly The nasty > book / Terry Jones & Michael Palin ; > [illustrated by Martin > Honeysett]. > Call Number : > 827 J726d > Publisher : > New York : P. Bedrick Books, 1985, > c1984. > Holdings : > Contact library staff for more > information. > > > But then someone took it out on "extended loan" > before I could take it out > on "extended loan." > > Phooey! > And poopy shoes too! > Alas, everything I love is doomed, Doomed, DOOMED, I > say! > But I -am- going to try interlibrary loan. > > Kay > > Meaning has to be shared to be real. > Mark Kingwell > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:28:34 -0800 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: [Fwd: LEGO Studios Screening Room] This is hilarious! eleanore Received: by tdl (mbox eleanore) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Tue Nov 27 20:22:05 2001) Received: from pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by tdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23426 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:19:55 -0800 Received: from loomer.com ([63.193.240.13]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GNH00G6KTD6WI@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for eleanore@tdl.com; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:19:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:19:54 -0800 From: Hugh Caley Subject: LEGO Studios Screening Room To: Eleanore Adams Message-id: <3C0465EA.8020905@loomer.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:0.9.6+) Gecko/20011127 X-From_: hcaley@loomer.com Tue Nov 27 20:19:55 2001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 http://www.lego.com/studios/screening/movie.asp?opt=qtl ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #441 ********************************