From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #434 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, November 19 2001 Volume 10 : Number 434 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey ["Fric Chaud" ] Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re:2001: A Space Odyssey ["Russ Reynolds" ] Leonids ["Marc Holden" ] Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey [Christopher Gross ] the 2001 leonid space odyssey ["madcowan" ] Reap [Eb ] Bundeling ["Redtailed Hawk" ] Re: does marmite go bad? [grutness@surf4nix.com] Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #433 [grutness@surf4nix.com] midi files [strange little woj ] Apocalypse NOW! (no rh5, no BinLaden either) [Mike Swedene ] Re: does marmite go bad? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Weetabix ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: does marmite go bad? ["matt sewell" ] Re: Weetabix scam [Michael R Godwin ] Brenda of the Light Bulb Eyes [Brian ] mostly harmless [gSs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:53:09 -0500 From: "Fric Chaud" Subject: Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey On 18 Nov 2001, at 3:30, Eb wrote: > I hope some of you stayed up and saw the meteor shower tonight...I've > probably seen about four meteors in my life before tonight, but I must > have seen 60-70 within the last *hour*! Wow! Truly dazzling. Some predictions set the rate at thousands per hour in suburban skies. I got up at 4:00 and stared at the clouds until 4:30. I've never seen a clear sky in Montreal on the night of the Leonids. Stupid Montreal. Stupid clouds. Stupid Leonids. - -- Fric Fatigui ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 11:06:57 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey >From: "Fric Chaud" >Reply-To: "Fric Chaud" >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey >Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:53:09 -0500 > >On 18 Nov 2001, at 3:30, Eb wrote: > > > I hope some of you stayed up and saw the meteor shower tonight...I've > > probably seen about four meteors in my life before tonight, but I must > > have seen 60-70 within the last *hour*! Wow! Truly dazzling. > >Some predictions set the rate at thousands per hour in suburban >skies. I got up at 4:00 and stared at the clouds until 4:30. I've >never seen a clear sky in Montreal on the night of the Leonids. > >Stupid Montreal. Stupid clouds. Stupid Leonids. > >-- >Fric Fatigui I had a dream about Junior High. Ray Davies was my teacher, yes I was into The Kinks heavily at the time. Sleep good. Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:09:20 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re:2001: A Space Odyssey > I hope some of you stayed up and saw the meteor shower tonight...I've > probably seen about four meteors in my life before tonight, but I > must have seen 60-70 within the last *hour*! Wow! Truly dazzling. I woke up at 2:45 thinking that I had missed the the best of it (and maybe I did--2AM was supposed to be the peak) but I was seeing one every 15 seconds or so and an occasional flurry of two or three in a row. I kept humming this stupid song in my head..."catch a falling star and put it in your pocket..." who was that, Perry Como? Better that than Bad Company, though. When I first went out to the driveway the next door neighbors were just returning from a trip to a nearby area with fewer lights around...and the kids were grumbling that they should have stayed home and watched it on TV. - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:41:24 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Leonids Hey there-- I almost skipped trying to see the meteor shower last night because it was kind of overcast here, but at 1 a.m. I decided to take a drive way out into the desert and give it a shot--far away from town, so there was less interference from electric lighting. It was a cool drive through places with typical desert names: Apache Trail, the Superstition Mountains, Tortilla Flats, Canyon Lake, Boulder Creek, etc. I made great time, and I managed to get to a nice ridge about seven miles away from the nearest light by 2 a.m. The sky was clear almost the entire night and there were just amazing numbers of meteors streaking across the sky. I've seen fairly good showers before, but this was way beyond what I expected. I would honestly estimate that I saw well over 1500 meteors between 2 and 6 a.m.--it was almost non-stop, even when we started to get a thin layer of clouds across the sky. Man, I wish I could see something like that again. It was just staggeringly impressive. Time to sleep. Later, Marc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:07:59 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Eb wrote: > I hope some of you stayed up and saw the meteor shower tonight...I've > probably seen about four meteors in my life before tonight, but I > must have seen 60-70 within the last *hour*! Wow! Truly dazzling. You can actually see the stars from my new home (most areas I've lived have been too bright), so I was pretty excited. I went at at 4:50 am, just before the predicted peak time ... only to find a heavy fog. What's worse, the fog was getting thicker by the minute, so extrapolating back in time, I realized that I probably would have had a clear sky if I had gone out an hour earlier. Grrrr.... - --frustrated Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:12:58 -0500 From: "madcowan" Subject: the 2001 leonid space odyssey East coast watchers got a little bit less spectacular show than west but it was still the most amazing meteor shower I'll likely see in my lifetime. I have a friend, Kate, who lives way out in the country, in northern Baltimore county. We have tried to see meteor showers a few times previously without luck due to the weather or moon interference. So given the clear forecast and phase of the moon we decided to try again. She and one of the other people who were with us had to work today so originally we just tried to watch the first part, a bit after midnight. We only saw a couple that early. One was a very large fireball that streaked across the whole sky. A quick decision was made that we all really wanted to try to see this show so we decided to try to sleep for a few hours and attempt again around 4 am, when the peak was supposed to begin. When the alarm went off around 3:45, enthusiasm had dampened a bit but still I, and one other person, got up and went out on the porch to watch. Sure enough, a bit of fog had rolled in but it was very low to the ground and the sky was still visible, though some parts were a bit obscured by the clouds. We sat and watched for about 30 minutes or so and it was very nice, though in a subtle way, 2 or 3 a minute, scattered all over the sky. My companion decided to bag it and go back to sleep. Even Kate only emerged for a few minutes and said to call her if it got *REALLY* spectacular. I must admit it was pretty cold sitting out there so I got some more supplies--a couple of blankets and some hot tea--and moved myself and my chair away from the house and found a somewhat comfortable spot where I could get a little better view of the sky. My patience was rewarded...slowly at first, then more rapidly, the pace of the meteors picked up. At one point they were coming in at 10-15 a minute, sometimes 2 would shoot across the sky in tandem. There were some medium to large fireballs, others were barely visible, faint streaks of light. They could literally show up anywhere in the sky. Sometime after 5 am I went back in the house and awakened the others to come back out. I also got my camera and tripod and attempted to get some photos. We sat out there and watched until the sky began to lighten. I think Marc's "staggeringly impressive" describes it well. Tired and cold to the bone, I was happy to crawl into my warm bed when I got home and managed to get a few hours sleep. 8-) Roberta ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:16:23 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Reap from Holger Czukay's website (http://www.czukay.de/news/): november 17 can guitarist michael karoli died unexpectedly this morning in his home while playing on his favorite instrument. in the last weeks we often had telephoned together in which he expressed how lucky he felt that our ways were crossing when he still was at school. in may 1966 i became a music teacher in the same school. and as i hadn't any professional training i gave a test lesson to that class where he was sitting as a pupil. the director told me to leave the room for a moment while he was speaking to the pupils what they were thinking of me becoming their teacher. michael told me later that he especially favored this idea which practically meant that i was earning a salary each month, my first - and last too. at that time he took some guitar lessons from me but frankly speaking i could at least learn as much from him as he could learn from me. after leaving the school we kept staying in contact roughly thinking what our future could become while working together on a piece by bix beiderbecker "in a mist" - a premonition to can's "mushroom". micki later commented this recording that it reminded him of the atmosphere in chicago during winter time and of "in a mist". last time we worked especially tight together was on can's "rite time" album from 1987 till 89 which we both produced. about a month ago we phoned each other to arrange a video interview date where we wanted to go through our common history. he suggested to wait a bit longer as it would appear to him speaking out his final testament. thinking of his young children he tried to avoid this thought as they strongly needed the father. this afternoon i tried to confirm a date, a few hours too late. michael was the most intelligent guy of us all to say the least. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 21:40:25 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: Bundeling Kenneth, thanks for the Doystoefsky tip. Maybe we could take on those blighting limeys on the other side of both ponds. - ------------------------------------- I wrote > >You really like to brag how big yours is, dont you? > >26,400 and stumbling onwards > >OK, it's 29,200 *wide* not *long,* OK? Oh dear, as any woman will tell you, thats even better;-) Im decided to be at 30,000 by the end of tonight. My imagination is starting to turn to ash but I think there are a few embers left to breathe on. >I intend to finish this week. I want >to get it finished before the Thanksgiving craziness begins. I am taking this, as the cliche goes, one day at a time. Stuff with Thanksgiving and my dad's health could still, not derail the train, but cerianly delay it. James: >a google search on the two words "doppelganger" and "literature" James, youre more patient than I am, I kept getting this aweful newsgroup stuff aqnd got disgusted. I love Poe so thanks bundeles. Hmm, you guys probobly would win after all. Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:55:33 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Re: does marmite go bad? >You're assuming of course that it's edible to BEGIN WITH. > >Ack! of course it's edible! You're getting it confused with Vegemite (aka sump-oil) James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:56:59 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #433 >Love Cadbury's fruit and nut!!! Have to have some every day! another thing that is good about Dunedin - one of Cadburys' biggest southern hemisphere factories is in the city, which means Dunedinites are guinea-pgs for new flavours! James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:59:46 -0500 From: strange little woj Subject: midi files if you can help gerd find robyn midis, let him know at gerd.propp@t-online.de. woj >From: gerd.propp@t-online.de (Gerd Propp) >To: >Subject: midi files >Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:21:19 +0100 > >Hi everybody! > >I'm looking for all kind of Robyn's midi files just to sing along and have >fun. Are there any in the www? I couldn't find any since month. > >Thanks in advance for your answer > >Gerd from Germany ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:15:44 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Apocalypse NOW! (no rh5, no BinLaden either) It warms the heart to see Britney spears gets a special on HBO and they won't even show Mr Hitchcock or Phish on there for more than 20 minutes.... oh well... I am off to the bomb shelter now.... Herbie Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:36:32 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Dopplefun Redtailed Hawk wrote: > > Have always known I -should- read "Justified Sinner" but never actually > have. Im impressed. Hell, Im impressed I even know what it is, so most > dopply impressed you actually got thru it. but it's a tiny book! And so hilarious that it just drags you through. Hang on, revise that. Maybe only Scottish people find it hilarious. Others probably find it grim. Can't think why; the old Calvinist-tempted-into-evil-by-the-devil- in-the-disguise-of-a-divine routine has 'em rolling in the aisles here. I was introduced to this book by an American -- my wife -- so we don't have the monopoly on erudition rightpond. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:45:14 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: does marmite go bad? grutness@surf4nix.com wrote: > > of course it's edible! You're getting it confused with Vegemite (aka sump-oil) they're both entirely nasty-assed. Awful, awful, awful stuff. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:48:12 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: 2001: A Space Odyssey Fric Chaud wrote: > > Stupid Montreal. Stupid clouds. Stupid Leonids. you sure you weren't watching your ass, Fric? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:49:51 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Weetabix Eleanore Adams wrote: > > I do like Weetabix, both UK and US versions, but myt cereal of choice is still > Captn Crunch, dry, in a cup. so your mouth is meat stalactites, yes? I like CC, but it's way too abrasive. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 08:58:30 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Weetabix "SIMPSON,HAMISH (A-Sonoma,ex1)" wrote: > > You get Weetabix in the US but it's not the same. Too sugary and too soft. try the Canadian-made organic stuff. It's hypercrunchy; I suspect it has been waterproofed. > Oh, except for Hersheys chocolate which > blows a big one!!!!! Apparently the chocolate industry describes Hershey bars as "cheesy". Seems old Milt overheated his milk condensers, and soured the batch. The taste has stuck. (Apparently in later life, MSH had so shot his tastebuds from smoking huge cigars that he came out with experimental candies that were utterly inedible.) > Stewart, maybe we could set up some sort of > ex-pat-genuine-weetabix-import-scam? I'm sure it's inert enough to travel > well. Too brittle, and it's a known weapon of the Talebran. > Tennents lager?!?!!?!?!? Because most folks think I'm French, Irish or Canadian when I'm in the US, I've been offered Tennents and McEwans as "very special Scottish beer". Yuk. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:39:35 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: does marmite go bad? Vegemite gives me the fear.... Marmite, however, is edible regardless of how old it is, as long as you have carefully observed the "never use the same knife for the butter as the marmite" rule... I always ignore the rule, thus my marmite usually has a flourishing bloom of algae after about a month... luckily it never lasts that long! Matt >From: grutness@surf4nix.com >Reply-To: grutness@surf4nix.com >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: does marmite go bad? >Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:55:33 +1300 > > >You're assuming of course that it's edible to BEGIN WITH. > > > >Ack! > >of course it's edible! You're getting it confused with Vegemite (aka sump-oil) > >James > > James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= > .-=-.-=-.-=-.- > .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. > - -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance > =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time > - -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:46:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Weetabix scam On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > try the Canadian-made organic stuff. It's hypercrunchy; I suspect it has > been waterproofed. I opened the cereal cupboard this morning expecting to find a packet of Weetabix and discovered a box of Co-op Wheat Biscuits instead! Apparently my wife has been buying these things "because they're cheaper". My concern is this: have I spotted this scam in time, or could I have _unknowingly_ been eating Co-op Wheat Biscuits for several months? This is almost as bad as the great David Greig Cornflakes catastrophe of 1970, when one of my flatmates bought a huge stock of near-inedible David Greig Cornflakes for the same reason. "Anxious Breakfaster", BANES n.p. Ace 'How long has this been going on?' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:09:53 -0500 From: Brian Subject: Brenda of the Light Bulb Eyes I know, in the past, some of you have been seeking the out of print RH video "Brenda of the Light Bulb Eyes." There's one on ebay right now for $9.99 (w/ buy it now): http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1486318641 Happy Holidays, Nuppster ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:01:10 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: mostly harmless I watched 'delicatessen', 'city of lost children' and 'hate' this weekend. All excellent movies and I recommend them to everyone, but this nearly gave me an erection. LONDON, England (Reuters) -- The final unfinished novel by cult British author Douglas Adams is to be published next year on the anniversary of his death, his agent says. "A Salmon of a Doubt," the final and sixth part of his classic "The "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy," has been edited from files found on Adams's computer after he died suddenly in May, Ed Victor told the London Sunday Telegraph. "We have pored over Douglas's hard drive. There were so many different versions of the novel. He would take it and then revise it repeatedly so there were many files," said Victor. "As soon as he wrote anything he would say, 'Oh God, that's terrible.' He was a very, very self-critical author," he added. Adams died at age 49 from a heart attack earlier this year at his Santa Barbara California, home. His "Hitchhiker's Guide," about a group of galactic travellers who survive the demolition of Earth to build a space bypass, began life as a 1978 BBC Radio series. It was turned into a best-selling novel, a TV series, record album, computer game and adapted for the stage. It made Adams a household name on both sides of the Atlantic. "A Salmon of a Doubt" will be published next May in a compendium of Adam's final works, including a film screenplay for the Hitch Hiker's Guide, Victor said. http://www.cnn.com/2001/SHOWBIZ/books/11/19/arts.adams.reut/index.html ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #434 ********************************