From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #433 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, November 18 2001 Volume 10 : Number 433 Today's Subjects: ----------------- does Marmite go bad? [Carole Reichstein ] Re: Size isnt everything ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] RE: does Marmite go bad? ["Larry O'Brien" ] RE: Weetabix ["SIMPSON,HAMISH (A-Sonoma,ex1)" ] Oysterhead [Tom Clark ] RE: Oysterhead ["Larry O'Brien" ] Re: Weetabix [Tom Clark ] Re: Weetabix [Eleanore Adams ] Weetabix and the unrepentant Hitchcock ["Mike Wells" ] The Strokes ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: The Strokes [Eb ] Re: The Strokes ["FS Thomas" ] Re: EPII Trailer #3 [steve ] Reap ["Rob" ] Re: dueling disclaimers [bayard ] 2001: A Space Odyssey [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:36:45 -0800 (PST) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: does Marmite go bad? I've had a little jar of Marmite in my cupboard for at least 3 years. I don't see any fungal growth anywhere. Is it safe to eat? After all this Weetabix/Marmite/Nutella topics, I have a strange craving for Marmite spread thinly on toast, with a sweet cuppa English Breakfast to go with it. And for those of you who grew up eating Marmite: did you always like it (i.e willingly eat it as a kid), or did it take a while for you to grow accustomed to the taste? No, of course I'm not hungry! Carole ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:42:04 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Size isnt everything >From: "Redtailed Hawk" > >You really like to brag how big yours is, dont you? >26,400 and stumbling onwards OK, it's 29,200 *wide* not *long,* OK? Actually, I just broke 32,000. I intend to finish this week. I want to get it finished before the Thanksgiving craziness begins. >Post a copy of the article. Please! I'm gonna contact the author and ask her if I can do that. NP: Slapp Happy, Acnalbasac Noom. Wow, that's a good record. Wish I'd have heard it much sooner. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:42:42 -0500 From: "Larry O'Brien" Subject: RE: does Marmite go bad? You're assuming of course that it's edible to BEGIN WITH. Ack! - -----Original Message----- From: Carole Reichstein [mailto:carole@technical.powells.com] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:37 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: does Marmite go bad? I've had a little jar of Marmite in my cupboard for at least 3 years. I don't see any fungal growth anywhere. Is it safe to eat? After all this Weetabix/Marmite/Nutella topics, I have a strange craving for Marmite spread thinly on toast, with a sweet cuppa English Breakfast to go with it. And for those of you who grew up eating Marmite: did you always like it (i.e willingly eat it as a kid), or did it take a while for you to grow accustomed to the taste? No, of course I'm not hungry! Carole ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:47:33 -0700 From: "SIMPSON,HAMISH (A-Sonoma,ex1)" Subject: RE: Weetabix You get Weetabix in the US but it's not the same. Too sugary and too soft. Pretty much every UK to US translated food suffers a similar fate. The best rule is, when in the US, eat US. Oh, except for Hersheys chocolate which blows a big one!!!!! Stewart, maybe we could set up some sort of ex-pat-genuine-weetabix-import-scam? I'm sure it's inert enough to travel well. Currently the only genuine UK imports seem to be Branston Pickle, Cadburys chocolate, Heinz Toast Toppers and Tennents lager?!?!!?!?!? (H) np - Butthole Surfers "Weird Revolution" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:48:16 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Actual Soft Boys content! OK, so this guy gets laid off and builds a website hoping to make a little money off of it. He got some good press, and I just learned about it at wired.com. OK, now here's the Soft Boys content. He uses bits of "Black Snake Diamond Role" in the beginning of his Flash movie, and even gives them credit. Here it is: . I wonder if Matador records is going to do loving reissues of all the other Soft Boys albums? They should. Hmm. And I wonder what they're doing with that video of the Boys they shot during the Austin SXSW show. Hmm. Anybody know how many copies of the Matador UW reissue were sold? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:49:30 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Oysterhead Thanks to somebody's suggestion I caught Oysterhead on the Conan O'Brien show last night. I thought they were pretty cool! I couldn't understand a damn word Trey or Les were saying, but they were very entertaining anyhoo. Is the album worth getting? currently unable to boot my development machine, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 14:52:24 -0500 From: "Larry O'Brien" Subject: RE: Oysterhead I like the album. Emphasis on "like". It's OK, but the combination of Les and Trey does not seem to mix too well at times. I like the Henry Cow "Unrest" album I just got a lot better. Or XTC "Mummer", which I'm listening to right now. - -----Original Message----- From: Tom Clark [mailto:tclark@reardensteel.com] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:50 PM To: Massacre On Cable Subject: Oysterhead Thanks to somebody's suggestion I caught Oysterhead on the Conan O'Brien show last night. I thought they were pretty cool! I couldn't understand a damn word Trey or Les were saying, but they were very entertaining anyhoo. Is the album worth getting? currently unable to boot my development machine, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:53:13 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Weetabix on 11/16/01 11:47 AM, SIMPSON,HAMISH (A-Sonoma,ex1) at hamish_simpson@agilent.com wrote: > np - Butthole Surfers "Weird Revolution" What do you think? It's not as blaring, glaring, and daring as their previous stuff, but I think it's fairly entertaining. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:53:55 -0800 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: Weetabix I do like Weetabix, both UK and US versions, but myt cereal of choice is still Captn Crunch, dry, in a cup. I have had it for breakfast in this manner every day this week, with black kona coffee on the side. Love Cadbury's fruit and nut!!! Have to have some every day! (yes, have a sweet tooth) e "SIMPSON,HAMISH (A-Sonoma,ex1)" wrote: > You get Weetabix in the US but it's not the same. Too sugary and too soft. > Pretty much every UK to US translated food suffers a similar fate. The best > rule is, when in the US, eat US. Oh, except for Hersheys chocolate which > blows a big one!!!!! > > Stewart, maybe we could set up some sort of > ex-pat-genuine-weetabix-import-scam? I'm sure it's inert enough to travel > well. Currently the only genuine UK imports seem to be Branston Pickle, > Cadburys chocolate, Heinz Toast Toppers and Tennents lager?!?!!?!?!? > > (H) > > np - Butthole Surfers "Weird Revolution" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 15:03:32 -0600 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Weetabix and the unrepentant Hitchcock So I'm listening to the SB's fine Norwich - or as RH says "Norrich" - show from last April 22nd, and the "feed the fish" rant during Underwater Moonlisht starts: "In the beginning was the year 2012 and it was written on the back of a packet of Weetabix..." etc. about the world changing unrecognizably Now THERE'S a tie-in. Michael "radio stations would be so hard to hear" Wells Ps. was the idea to collect Robyn's UM rants from each tour stop on one disc ever put through? Would love to help, maybe we could tree it out... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 10:11:00 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: re: what's for breakfast? >I wonder -- seeing as they upped and left -- if they're anything to do >with the amusingly named "BIG OZ MORNING PUFFS", which are basically >puffed maize kernels. could be - their website might tell you: >> I did an uge websearch on weetbix but it didn't turn up a damn thing >> on their history (perhaps I should have used the British or American >> spellings of the stuff). > >Remembering that it has an A in it might help :-) not if it's originally kiwi! It's Weetbix here, and in Australia. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 10:11:27 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com Subject: re: dogglefangers >Does anyone know a scholarly site where I could quickly pick up a list of >references to dopplegangers in pre-modern literature and folklore? > >As a search it turns up alot of chaff because of role-playing games, gothic >chuff and alien fantasys. a google search on the two words "doppelganger" and "literature" turned up a plethora of sites,such as the one below, which deals with Edgar Allan Poe's use of the Doppelganger: and in Hogg's "Justified sinner": The subject is, according to several sites "one of the mainstays of gothic fiction", so perhaps adding the would cut the dross down even further. James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 18:39:12 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Weetabix and the unrepentant Hitchcock/Tales From The Underwater >Michael "radio stations would be so hard to hear" Wells asked: > >Ps. was the idea to collect Robyn's UM rants from each tour stop on one >disc >ever put through? Would love to help, maybe we could tree it out... I was working on it yesterday. It has morphed into something else. Although it has all the moonlight raps, it now also includes most of the in between song stories. So anything of any length will be on it. Also, I still need a few of the British shows,I'm stalling till I get those. I will soon give up on them probably in a month or two it will be ready. So if you have the following shows please contact me...PLEASE: 23 APRIL - Nottingham 24 April - Glasgow 27 April - Oxford Any shows after and not including Clerkenwell. Thank's...lots, Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:09:11 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Weetabix > > np - Butthole Surfers "Weird Revolution" > >What do you think? It's not as blaring, glaring, and daring as their >previous stuff, but I think it's fairly entertaining. Probably my least favorite BHS album. Contrived and compromised for hopeful radio play. I'm currently grooving on the Strokes in a big way. I was late in hearing the album, but now that I have, damn, I can see what everyone's so excited about. It's time for me to start sorting out a top 10 for the year, and this one's a major new candidate. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:19:37 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: The Strokes >From: Eb >Reply-To: Eb >To: "reap:" >Subject: Re: Weetabix >Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 16:09:11 -0800 > >> > np - Butthole Surfers "Weird Revolution" >> >>What do you think? It's not as blaring, glaring, and daring as their >>previous stuff, but I think it's fairly entertaining. > >Probably my least favorite BHS album. Contrived and compromised for >hopeful radio play. > >I'm currently grooving on the Strokes in a big way. I was late in >hearing the album, but now that I have, damn, I can see what >everyone's so excited about. It's time for me to start sorting out a >top 10 for the year, and this one's a major new candidate. > >Eb Glad to hear someone mention this group. I saw them on Conan and thought they were great. Then I heard all the hype and it kind of turned me off of giving them a chance. Maybe I'll pick up the album this weekend. Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 17:50:51 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Strokes >Glad to hear someone mention this group. I saw them on Conan and >thought they were great. Then I heard all the hype and it kind of >turned me off of giving them a chance. Maybe I'll pick up the album >this weekend. The hype turned me off too...but the music won me over. It's just as derivative as everyone says (the Velvet Underground, '70s CBGB's, etc.), but the songs and energy are irresistible. It kinda reminds me of the first Ramones album in a way -- it's short, punchy and everything has the same gritty texture, but it adds up to an exciting, unified statement. I think this may end up being one of those albums which everyone owns -- it's a disc which you'll always be in the mood to hear. It's gonna stick around for awhile. Hard to predict whether the Strokes will go anywhere with future releases, but they just jumped to the very top of my "Haven't seen in concert yet" list. *Finally*, I've found a legitimate new artist of the year which I like! (Though I'm currently trying to decide whether I like the KGB's borderline debut or not...too bad the rest of the album isn't as catchy as the first three songs.) Last night, I downloaded a MP3 of "New York City Cops," the Strokes track which was deleted for semi-obvious reasons from the US version of their album. And hey, that song's good too. http://thestrokes.org I saw the Glands and Beachwood Sparks a couple of nights ago, but didn't enjoy it much. *These* bands don't have the song quality to overcome their lack of originality. However, it was a short, easy drive, so I didn't waste any major energy on the night. Unfortunately, this all-ages show started earlier than the norm (8 pm), and as a result, I arrived late and missed Love as Laughter's set. Oh, and for those who care, I figure my top-10 list for 2001 probably has six sure things: Nick Cave, Dylan, Bjork, Foetus, Ben Folds and, yup, the Strokes. The other four slots are up for grabs between about 15 albums, including those by Of Montreal, the Ladybug Transistor, Quasi, the Minus 5 (hey, lookie...Robyn content), Guided by Voices, Mouse on Mars, the Kingsbury Manx, Stephen Malkmus, Cowboy Junkies, Stereolab, David Thomas & Two Pale Boys, Kristin Hersh, Graeme Downes and Tricky. Oh, and my year's major guilty pleasure: the adorably overwrought "Moulin Rouge" soundtrack. :) Eb, such a damn whiteboy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 22:17:12 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: Re: The Strokes Just real quick: I caught them in Manhatten on Halloween night. What an excellent show! Absolutely fantastic. If y'all want...I've got a disc of the show that came out pretty danged good... http://www.ochremedia.com/trades - -ferris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eb" To: "reap:" Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:50 PM Subject: Re: The Strokes > >Glad to hear someone mention this group. I saw them on Conan and > >thought they were great. Then I heard all the hype and it kind of > >turned me off of giving them a chance. Maybe I'll pick up the album > >this weekend. > > The hype turned me off too...but the music won me over. It's just as > derivative as everyone says (the Velvet Underground, '70s CBGB's, > etc.), but the songs and energy are irresistible. It kinda reminds me > of the first Ramones album in a way -- it's short, punchy and > everything has the same gritty texture, but it adds up to an > exciting, unified statement. I think this may end up being one of > those albums which everyone owns -- it's a disc which you'll always > be in the mood to hear. It's gonna stick around for awhile. Hard to > predict whether the Strokes will go anywhere with future releases, > but they just jumped to the very top of my "Haven't seen in concert > yet" list. *Finally*, I've found a legitimate new artist of the year > which I like! (Though I'm currently trying to decide whether I like > the KGB's borderline debut or not...too bad the rest of the album > isn't as catchy as the first three songs.) > > Last night, I downloaded a MP3 of "New York City Cops," the Strokes > track which was deleted for semi-obvious reasons from the US version > of their album. And hey, that song's good too. > > http://thestrokes.org > > I saw the Glands and Beachwood Sparks a couple of nights ago, but > didn't enjoy it much. *These* bands don't have the song quality to > overcome their lack of originality. However, it was a short, easy > drive, so I didn't waste any major energy on the night. > Unfortunately, this all-ages show started earlier than the norm (8 > pm), and as a result, I arrived late and missed Love as Laughter's > set. > > Oh, and for those who care, I figure my top-10 list for 2001 probably > has six sure things: Nick Cave, Dylan, Bjork, Foetus, Ben Folds and, > yup, the Strokes. The other four slots are up for grabs between about > 15 albums, including those by Of Montreal, the Ladybug Transistor, > Quasi, the Minus 5 (hey, lookie...Robyn content), Guided by Voices, > Mouse on Mars, the Kingsbury Manx, Stephen Malkmus, Cowboy Junkies, > Stereolab, David Thomas & Two Pale Boys, Kristin Hersh, Graeme Downes > and Tricky. Oh, and my year's major guilty pleasure: the adorably > overwrought "Moulin Rouge" soundtrack. :) > > Eb, such a damn whiteboy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 22:38:09 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: EPII Trailer #3 On Friday, November 16, 2001, at 12:15 PM, Mike Swedene wrote: > Well... > once again... No Robyn...but here is the > 3rd trailer for EP II.... Too bad they pulled it from the Harry Potter movie, because watching it 60 times would have been a much more enjoyable experience. At least Majin Buu is on DBZ tonight, but it's still a couple of episodes before he turns Darbura into a cookie. - - Steve __________ If anyone has ever benefited from what Bush has called "the bigotry of soft expectations," it's George W. Bush himself. - Mark Crispin Miller ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:00:15 -0000 From: "Rob" Subject: Reap Charlotte Coleman of an asthma attack age 33. Guess she's best known for her role in Four Weddings & A Funeral, but I think her best work was Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit. - -- Rob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:11:25 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: Re: dueling disclaimers > possible new computer, & all the XP machines > were showing off the new Windows Media Player > with "The Great Intoxication" by David Byrne. > Wonder if it's a tie-in. and there's this: http://www.glasshotel.net/gh/ephemera/robynmediaplayer.jpg =b "mist havebean david burn or somebody" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:30:51 -0800 From: Eb Subject: 2001: A Space Odyssey I hope some of you stayed up and saw the meteor shower tonight...I've probably seen about four meteors in my life before tonight, but I must have seen 60-70 within the last *hour*! Wow! Truly dazzling. Agog, Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #433 ********************************