From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #427 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, November 11 2001 Volume 10 : Number 427 Today's Subjects: ----------------- reap [Eb ] Plokamutu bong biddly, with a side order of tadpoles [grutness@surf4nix.c] yep. Reap. :( [Carole Reichstein ] Sleeping with your Devil Mask [Carole Reichstein ] Re: ebspirit [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: ebspirit [steve ] Re: Sleeping with your Devil Mask ["victorian squid" ] verse and rhetoric ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: friends in low place [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: REAP ["Fric Chaud" ] cranberry/orange [lj lindhurst ] Re: Lyrics? (100% RH) [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Stuart Sutcliffe [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Stuart Sutcliffe ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Stuart Sutcliffe [Mike Swedene ] web page includes [bayard ] Re: cranberry/orange [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Stuart Sutcliffe [Eb ] Re: web page includes [Ken Weingold ] Re: web page includes [Capuchin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:49:58 -0700 From: Eb Subject: reap Yup, Ken Kesey. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:58:03 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Plokamutu bong biddly, with a side order of tadpoles >Acttually, I agree with Eb that some of the life has been sucked out >of the List since the election. oh, come on... that's only been a few hours. Mind you, how Howard ever got back is anyone's guess... Other than that, though, I think what TGQ wrote is pretty near spt on. It's time we organised some spontaneity here! And can anyone tell me anything about a musician called David Kitt? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:12:13 -0800 (PST) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: yep. Reap. :( Sorry about the length, but we *have* been on a literary bent lately. EUGENE, Oregon -- Ken Kesey, whose LSD-fueled bus ride became a symbol of the psychedelic 1960s after he won fame as a novelist, died Saturday morning, hospital officials said. He was 66. Kesey died following cancer surgery on his liver. After studying writing at Stanford University, Kesey burst onto the literary scene with "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" in 1962, followed quickly with "Sometimes a Great Notion" in 1964, then went 28 years before publishing his third major novel. In 1964, he rode across the country in an old school bus named Further driven by Neal Cassidy, hero of Jack Kerouac's beat generation classic, "On The Road." The bus was filled with pals who called themselves the Merry Pranksters and sought enlightenment through the psychedelic drug LSD. The odyssey was immortalized in Tom Wolfe's 1968 account, "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test." "Anyone trying to get a handle on our times had better read Kesey," Charles Bowden wrote when the Los Angeles Times honored Kesey's lifetime of work with the Robert Kirsh Award in 1991. "And unless we get lucky and things change, they're going to have to read him a century from now too." "Sometimes a Great Notion," widely considered Kesey's greatest book, told the saga of the Stamper clan, rugged independent loggers carving a living out of the Oregon woods under the motto, "Never Give A Inch." It was made into a movie starring Henry Fonda and Paul Newman. But "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" became much more widely known, thanks to a movie that Kesey hated. It tells the story of R.P. McMurphy, who feigned insanity to get off a prison farm, only to be lobotomized when he threatened the authority of the mental hospital. The 1974 movie swept the Academy Awards for best picture, best director, best actor and best actress, but Kesey sued the producers because it took the viewpoint away from the character of the schizophrenic Indian, Chief Bromden. Kesey based the story on experiences working at the Veterans Administration hospital in Palo Alto, Calif., while attending Wallace Stegner's writing seminar at Stanford. Kesey also volunteered for experiments with LSD. While Kesey continued to write a variety of short autobiographical fiction, magazine articles and children's books, he didn't produce another major novel until "Sailor Song" in 1992, his long-awaited Alaska book, which he described as a story of "love at the end of the world." "This is a real old-fashioned form," he said of the novel. "But it is sort of the Vatican of the art. Every once in a while you've got to go get a blessing from the pope." Kesey considered pranks part of his art, and in 1990 took a poke at the Smithsonian Institution by announcing he would drive his old psychedelic bus to Washington, to give it to the nation. The museum recognized the bus as a new one, with no particular history, and rejected the gift. In a 1990 interview with The Associated Press, Kesey said it had become harder to write since he became famous. "When I was working on `Sometimes a Great Notion,' one of the reasons I could do it was because I was unknown," he said. "I could get all those balls in the air and keep them up there and nothing would come along and distract me. Now there's a lot of stuff happens that happens because I'm famous. And famous isn't good for a writer. You don't observe well when you're being observed." A graduate of the University of Oregon, Kesey returned to his alma mater in 1990 to teach novel writing. With each student assigned a character and writing under the gun, the class produced "Caverns," under the pen name OU Levon, or UO Novel spelled backward. "The life of it comes from making people believe that these people are drawing breath and standing up, casting shadows, and living lives and feeling agonies," Kesey said then. "And that's a trick. It's a glorious trick. And it's a trick that you can be taught. It's not something, just a thing that comes from the muses." Among his proudest achievements was seeing "Little Tricker the Squirrel Meets Big Double the Bear," which he wrote from an Ozark mountains tale told by his grandmother, included on the Library of Congress 1991 list of suggested children's books. "I'm up there with Dr. Seuss," he crowed. Fond of performing, Kesey sometimes recited the piece in top hat and tails accompanied by an orchestra, throwing a shawl over his head while assuming the character of his grandmother reciting the nursery rhyme, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." Kesey is seen here sitting in the doorway of the "psychedelic bus" in which he traveled the country in 1964. He and the bus were featured in this year's film release about another trip, "The Journey." Other works include "Kesey's Garage Sale" and "Demon Box," collections of essays and short stories, and "Further Inquiry," another look at the 1964 bus trip in which the soul of Cassidy is put on trial. "The Sea Lion" was another children's book, telling the story of a crippled boy who saves his Northwest Indian tribe from an evil spirit by invoking the gift-giving ceremony of potlatch. Born in La Junta, Colorado, on Sept. 17, 1935, Kesey moved as a young boy in 1943 from the dry prairie to his grandparents' dairy farm in Oregon's lush Willamette Valley. He earned a bachelor's degree in journalism from the University of Oregon, where he also was a wrestler. After serving four months in jail for a marijuana bust in California, he set down roots in Pleasant Hill in 1965 with his high school sweetheart, Faye, and reared four children. Their rambling red barn house with the big Pennsylvania Dutch star on the side became a landmark of the psychedelic era, attracting visits from myriad strangers in tie-dyed clothing seeking enlightenment. The bus Further rusted away in a boggy pasture while Kesey raised beef cattle. Kesey was diagnosed with diabetes in 1992. His son Jed, killed in a 1984 van wreck on a road trip with the University of Oregon wrestling team, was buried in the back yard. Copyright 2001 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:24:08 -0800 (PST) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: Sleeping with your Devil Mask Mike wrote: "And once when she was very young She saw a cellist being hung Thirteen men with long black heads" - - -Sleeping With Your Devil's mask So I looked it up.... And the painting is in one of Robyn's favorite places to sing about St. Petersburg, Florida. Any thoughts that he may have been singing about someone he knows? Maybe Michelle? ...Wow! Interesting! I always thought the "she" in that verse was about his mother Joyce. Carole ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:01:25 -0800 From: Everybody Needs My Nose Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #425 >Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 18:21:29 +0000 >From: "Redtailed Hawk" >Subject: Wiping > >Journaling > >"I" hate having to use "I" all the time. Keeping a journal makes "me" feel >like a "self-important git"(which "I" am, but "I" dont want to -feel- like >"I" am.) And once you start to create a character they pick up stuff, they >become a suprise. "I" like that. "I" can be a prison. > Krishnamurti referred to himself as "the speaker". I like that. :>| Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:16:56 -0800 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: ebspirit Not on or off this, but I just picked up "The Accidental President" which is written in an "easy to read" format. There are a ton of books out now about the past election, and when I have more free time (when school is out) plan to read a few. i really don't see how Nader did anything but good for the U.S. peoples. No one person (ha ha ha) got Dubya in that white house. And those 9 who had the final decision - don't think they had anything to do with Nader. I went to the last Nader rally in SF a few weeks ago. Very good turn out. e gSs wrote: > On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Eb wrote: > > Will the Nader clique > > ever care that their tirades > > killed a list's spirit? > > So it was the Green party members from this list that got gw elected? Man, > I had no idea that our broad swords were so,, so broad. And it was the > Green Party that led to the collapse of the feglist and eventually the > United States of America? Or should that be 'the collapse of the United > States and eventually the feglist'? Do you write for third rock? If that > is all it takes, then no. In fact the Nader Clique as opposed to the > partisan heads up your ass clique, is in fact pleased. The long train of > change is now running. Within 10 years the Republicans and Democrats > will be just like the former soviet union, a real leason. And as soon as > Mexico and Canada get through squabbling over the division of the former > US territories then we can start the witch hunt for the cause which is of > course either the democrats and republicans who fostered the two party > system through overly manipulative propaganda and flouride or the green > fegs. > > Burn the witches and their god(s) unless of course they turn out to be > the fegs of green, then just decide if you want to be Mexican or Canadian. > > gSs ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:32:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: ebspirit Eleanore Adams wrote: > No one person (ha ha ha) got Dubya in that white house. And > those 9 who had the final decision - don't think they had anything to > do with Nader. well, 5 really. did anyone here see the article somewhere a couple months ago, where David Souter basically said that if they'd had another 12 hours, he was sure he could have changed Anthony Kennedy's mind, and that the only reason Kennedy went along with the ScaliaThomasReinquist clique is that he feared the country being ripped apart (as opposed to Sandra Day O'Connor, who did it so she could quit and be replaced by a Republican, which is actually more disgraceful than any other reason)? if so, can you tell me where it was (i only heard about it). i think it was actually a fairly mainstream source... > I went to the last Nader rally in SF a few weeks ago. Very good turn > out. ===== "The kind people have a wonderful dream: Bud Selig on the guillotine." -- Morrissey (well, almost) "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:55:48 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: ebspirit On Saturday, November 10, 2001, at 06:32 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > did anyone here see the article somewhere a couple months ago, where > David Souter basically said that if they'd had another 12 hours, he was > sure he could have changed Anthony Kennedy's mind, and that the only > reason Kennedy went along with the ScaliaThomasReinquist clique is that > he feared the country being ripped apart (as opposed to Sandra Day > O'Connor, who did it so she could quit and be replaced by a Republican, > which is actually more disgraceful than any other reason)? if so, can > you tell me where it was (i only heard about it). i think it was > actually a fairly mainstream source... The O'Connor thing was all over the media - she was at a dinner party and voiced her disappointment when it was announced that Gore had won Florida. Just another reason to despise the filthy scum that now control the executive branch. - - Steve __________ President Bush met privately with top officials from the Salvation Army in May to discuss his "faith-based" initiative while the White House was reviewing a request from the charity for a regulation protecting it from local workplace nondiscrimination laws based on sexual orientation. - Dana Milbank, Washington Post ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:45:16 -0800 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Re: Sleeping with your Devil Mask On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:24:08 Carole Reichstein wrote: >...Wow! Interesting! I always thought the "she" in that verse >was about his mother Joyce. So did I. My interpretation of that verse was always that his mother had seen that painting and it reminded her of a spooky dream she had as a child. (I kinda doubt it was Michelle, given that he didn't know her then). loveonya, Susan P.S. Anyone else watching the "Hullabaloo" reruns on AMC? What a bunch of dorky white people!! :) Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 00:19:44 -0500 From: Ed Poole Subject: REAP ken kesey has died he was 66, but now he's gone, FURTHUR ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 23:59:55 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: verse and rhetoric > From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) > Subject: The Fegman's tale > > Whan Novaumbre cam agayn > Fegmaniax with muche disteyn > Forsak the prose for satnzas mental > Desined in styl mock-Oriental > 5 Thenn more did scryb in outher ways > Deligting alle with turgid lays > Inscripted in mode they thougt best > Trochee, iamb, and anapaest > The thredde was laung but entertayn'd > 10 Those fegs who, if theyr witte remayn'd > Disdeyn'd fram scrolling past the rimes > And laught at our poetic crymes > But now this thredde is running low > And our feg friends are wont to go > 15 To subjects that they know will pleas - > Politicks and crann berries, > And novels writ and CDs burnt > And musick hear'd and news juste learnt > And maybe once in a blue moone > 20 Some write about a Hitchcock tune > Which is meet come, and is the gryst - > The reason for this mailing lyst > This does complete this Fegman's tale > So back to Eb and Jeme and Quayl > 25 Who mayhap argue, disagree > But are in this communitie > Of feggyfolk who seeme to be > As one grayt familie to me! Frabjous! "Post of the Month" seems such an inadequate accolade. Excellently done. I have to quote it all again. > From: The Great Quail > > Acttually, I agree with Eb that some of the life has been sucked out > of the List since the election. Well, if you say so. Frankly, I've been ready to unsubscribe many a time, and every time some wonderful post comes out of left field -- one of Kay's terrific marathons, or some gem from James like the one above, or some sudden Robyn-related inspiration like Mike's (snipped, but very interesting). So I'm dealing with the "tri-polarization" you describe by trying harder to pay attention to the posts I like and to perceive the political soapboxing as noise rather than signal, interesting though it can be. Also note that your categories: > Naderites, Democrats, Those Who Didn't Care are incomplete. I Care, yet I would not and did not lump myself in with Naderites or Democrats. Perhaps Those Who Didn't Care is a larger group than the Naderites and Democrats imagine, and is also misnamed? > I take partial responsibility for this. I did attack some people, and > I got personal ("It's high time you shut the fuck up," to Capuchin, > and so on) I'd forgotten that, the specific words, at least. I bet a lot of the list had, or was trying to. - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 00:23:51 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: friends in low place Greg Shell wrote: > It's nice to have friends in the right places. > > (CNN) -- Saying that innocent women, men and children are being > subjected "to blind wrath, misnamed as a holy war," Iranian President > Mohammad Khatami Friday delivered indirect criticism of the the > Taliban regime in Afghanistan. > > Speaking at a United Nations-sponsored symposium at Seton Hall > University,Khatami said that "an obscure misrepresentation of Islam > terrorizes the world." > > http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/11/09/khatami.taliban/index.html for pure surrealist whatever though, you still can't beat the phrase i saw on the CNN crawl the day of the attack: "Islamic Jihad comdemn attack on Twin Towers, Pentagon." ===== "The kind people have a wonderful dream: Bud Selig on the guillotine." -- Morrissey (well, almost) "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:02:42 -0500 From: "Fric Chaud" Subject: Re: REAP On 11 Nov 2001, at 0:19, Ed Poole wrote: > ken kesey has died > he was 66, but he was just 66? No! > now he's gone, FURTHUR - -- Fric Chaud ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:48:20 -0500 From: lj lindhurst Subject: cranberry/orange That Martha Stewart is a NUT!!! Cranberry Orange Relish Makes 2 cups This is an easy addition to the Thanksgiving menu since it doesn't require any cooking. 2 cups fresh or defrosted frozen cranberries 1/4 cup diced red onion 1 large jalapeqo pepper, seeded and finely chopped 2 tablespoons fresh lime juice 2 blood oranges or navel oranges, peeled, sectioned, and cut into 1/4-inch pieces, juices reserved 2 teaspoons fresh grated ginger 1/2 cup sugar 2 stalks celery, peeled to remove strings, cut in 1/4-inch dice 1/4 cup fresh mint leaves, coarsely chopped 1/4 cup pecans, toasted, broken in pieces 1. Place cranberries in food processor, and pulse to chop coarsely, about five pulses. Transfer to a medium bowl. 2. Add onion, jalapeqo, lime juice, orange sections and juice, ginger, sugar, and celery; mix gently. Refrigerate for at least 1 hour and up to 2 days. Just before serving, add mint and pecans, and toss to combine. - -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:45:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Lyrics? (100% RH) On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Mike Swedene wrote: > "Daddy Longlegs of the Evening... Hope!, 1940" > And the professor says "This is a painting with the > tree where the Golden Fleece was held for Jason...yada > yada yada... however the person hanging in place of > the fleece is Dali himself as a Cellist." > Lights go on in my head. Turn yourself on for a lark, Mike! Brilliant! On the question of who is being referred to, it seems to me that the preceding lines refer unambiguously to Robyn's mother: "It's all compulsion, there's no choice My mother's second name is Joyce And once when she was very young She saw a cellist being hung" It is unlikely that Mrs H would have visited Florida during the 1930s/1940s (she was presumably in her mid-20s when RH was born in 1953, so we must be talking about 10 or 15 years before that). Is it conceviable that she would have been taken to the original London surrealist exhibition, the one where Dali gave an address while wearing a diver's helmet? (He was of course totally inaudible). - - Mike Godwin n.p. Jo Stafford "Shrimp boats is a-coming" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:53:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Stuart Sutcliffe I haven't seen any mentions on this list of Pauline Sutcliffe's sensational allegations as reported at: What do you reckon, Beatle-watchers? - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:31:06 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Stuart Sutcliffe >From: Michael R Godwin >Reply-To: Michael R Godwin >To: fegmaniax >Subject: Re: Stuart Sutcliffe >Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:53:08 +0000 (GMT) > >I haven't seen any mentions on this list of Pauline Sutcliffe's >sensational allegations as reported at: > > >What do you reckon, Beatle-watchers? > >- Mike Godwin Okay, for those keeping score. Rumors spread by biographies of John say he slept with: His mother Brian Epstien (his manager) Stuart Sutcliff(his best friend) John was known to get a bit violent, but who the heck knows. Really I couldn't care less. Just play the music. But it does seem a bit shady to be coming out with this information now after all these years. Long live George, Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:49:07 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Re: Stuart Sutcliffe hmm.... interesting. Odd to come out with these acqusations now. Wouldn't they have gone after Lennon's estate earlier for some sort of monetary compensation if this head injury did occur? Maybe I am warped by the American judicial system and all the judge judy type shows I watch. Who knows.... Viva George! Off to the library to read something called "books." Herbie np - Respect "When I was Dead" (EXCELLENT vocal effect, I never noticed before. i guess I am used to hearing it live) "There is no such thing as hell, just France" - --- Maximilian Lang wrote: > >From: Michael R Godwin > >Reply-To: Michael R Godwin > >To: fegmaniax > >Subject: Re: Stuart Sutcliffe > >Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:53:08 +0000 (GMT) > > > >I haven't seen any mentions on this list of Pauline > Sutcliffe's > >sensational allegations as reported at: > > > > > >What do you reckon, Beatle-watchers? > > > >- Mike Godwin > > Okay, for those keeping score. Rumors spread by > biographies of John say he > slept with: > > His mother > Brian Epstien (his manager) > Stuart Sutcliff(his best friend) > > > John was known to get a bit violent, but who the > heck knows. Really I > couldn't care less. Just play the music. But it does > seem a bit shady to be > coming out with this information now after all these > years. > > Long live George, > Max > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:05:13 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: web page includes Many thanks to everyone who offered suggestions for doing includes on web pages. I'd thought about PHP, but that requires additions to the server, and for the purposes of this project, all i have to work with is IIS! Scary Mary gave me this info which worked well: here it is for your info: make sure the path points to the proper directories. Also, your web server needs to be configured to allow includes and if you are using regular html you'll have to rename your files with the .shtml extension. - -- http://glasshotel.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:26:59 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: cranberry/orange thanks. based on everything i've found looking around the web, i've come to the conclusion that there is not a vegetable, fruit, or seasoning that someone somewhere doesn't add to some form of cranberry sauce/relish/compote/etc. unfortunately, for this time i'm limited in what i can do by my audience, meaning jalapeno, horseradish, probably even ginger are out, unless i have time to make multiple batches. lj lindhurst wrote: > That Martha Stewart is a NUT!!! > > Cranberry Orange Relish > > Makes 2 cups > This is an easy addition to the Thanksgiving menu since it doesn't > require any cooking. > > > 2 cups fresh or defrosted frozen cranberries > 1/4 cup diced red onion > 1 large jalapeqo pepper, seeded and finely chopped > 2 tablespoons fresh lime juice > 2 blood oranges or navel oranges, peeled, sectioned, and cut > into 1/4-inch pieces, juices reserved > 2 teaspoons fresh grated ginger > 1/2 cup sugar > 2 stalks celery, peeled to remove strings, cut in 1/4-inch dice > 1/4 cup fresh mint leaves, coarsely chopped > 1/4 cup pecans, toasted, broken in pieces > > 1. Place cranberries in food processor, and pulse to chop > coarsely, about five pulses. Transfer to a medium bowl. > > 2. Add onion, jalapeqo, lime juice, orange sections and > juice, ginger, sugar, and celery; mix gently. Refrigerate for at > least 1 hour and up to 2 days. Just before serving, add mint and > pecans, and toss to combine. ===== "The kind people have a wonderful dream: Bud Selig on the guillotine." -- Morrissey (well, almost) "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:30:38 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Stuart Sutcliffe >Okay, for those keeping score. Rumors spread by biographies of John >say he slept with: > > His mother > Brian Epstien (his manager) > Stuart Sutcliff(his best friend) I think I've heard he slept with JFK and RFK too, unless I'm confusing him with Marilyn Monroe. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:10:13 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: web page includes On Sun, Nov 11, 2001, bayard wrote: > Many thanks to everyone who offered suggestions for doing includes on web > pages. I'd thought about PHP, but that requires additions to the server, > and for the purposes of this project, all i have to work with is IIS! Actually, they have PHP for win32. I had to set it up for someone once. It works. > Scary Mary gave me this info which worked well: here it is for your > info: > > > > make sure the path points to the proper directories. > > Also, your web server needs to be configured to allow includes > and if you are using regular html you'll have to rename your files > with the .shtml extension. Yeah, that's SSI. I'm sure Mary knows a lot more about this than I, but there is also 'exec' instead of include. I think include is more likely to work because of security issues. I haven't seen this stuff for years, though, so I may be totally off. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:52:30 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: web page includes On Sun, 11 Nov 2001, bayard wrote: > Scary Mary gave me this info which worked well: here it is for your > info: > > > > make sure the path points to the proper directories. > > Also, your web server needs to be configured to allow includes and if > you are using regular html you'll have to rename your files with the > .shtml extension. This is what we call SSI, or "server-side includes". Apache uses something called mod_ssi to achieve this. One can modify the configuration such that all files named .html are server-parsed and no special extension is required. For a busy server, though, it can be a touch more overhead than you'd like. I believe Ken Weingold and I both recommended that approach. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #427 ********************************