From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #425 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, November 9 2001 Volume 10 : Number 425 Today's Subjects: ----------------- blues and haikus [Ken Ostrander ] misc. [Christopher Gross ] Re: blues and haikus [The Great Quail ] Re: blues and haikus [Christopher Gross ] Lyrical Modulations ["ross taylor" ] Wiping ["Redtailed Hawk" ] Re: Cranberries (100% Martha Stewart content) [Glen Uber ] Re: blues and haikus [steve ] Livin' on Kesey Street ["Poole, R. Edward" ] Fwd: Hope for Love ["ross taylor" ] Re: Wiping [Christopher Gross ] re: ebspirit revisited [gSs ] compu-Q [bayard ] Re: Wiping [Viv Lyon ] re: ebspirit revisited [Eb ] the slate clean? [dmw ] Re: Wiping [Capuchin ] Re: Cranberries (100% Martha Stewart content) [Capuchin ] Re: Wiping [Capuchin ] Burning 4 You ["Mike Wells" ] Re: Burning 4 You [Ken Weingold ] Re: Burning 4 You [Capuchin ] RE: Burning 4 You ["Brian Huddell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 11:27:19 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: blues and haikus >> I don't understand. What are all you guys doing? Some kind of >> rap thing? > >Haiku is traditional japanese poetry of 17 syllables, usually written >in english in three lines of 5, 7, and then 5 syllables; it's >traditionally be about some aspect of nature. of course, being >americans we don't bother with that. i thought that i was doing a series about the nature of things in the world. i'm really sorry that it's considered bullying; but all people have to do is delete it like i do with all of the stuff i don't have the time or inclination to read. when people do post replies, it seems like they're taking it personally. it makes me laugh to think that my wry little triffles are so oppressive to certain folks. i didn't make it personal, nor did i attempt to speak for the list. i do think that my perspective, while relatively well-represented on this listserve, is completely glossed over in the mainstream. and no, i'm not perfect either. i'm a product of the consumer culture as well. my own contradiction is that i work at the sloan school of management helping to train the corporate leaders of tomorrow; but also using my internet access here to get involved in activism against the rising tide of that same corporate power. by the way, we don't have any ivory or ivy to speak of here at military industrial headquarters. why you'll never see a poem as lovely as a tree reams of pulp to print poetry anthologies no one even reads ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 11:32:24 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: misc. On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Capuchin wrote: > But it's my understanding that the number is around 9 million for people > that Hitler had rounded up and killed... 6 jews and 3 Other (gays, blacks, > whatever). > > Is this not based in fact? It's not only based in fact, it's correct, with the caveat that the numbers are only rough estimates. After Jews, Soviet POWs were the next largest group of victims. However, Jews and Gypsies were the only ethnic groups that the Nazis had immediate plans to completely exterminate. Not sure what all this says about Wiccans, though. On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, The Great Quail wrote: > The Major (was that his rank?) from "Twin > Peaks" was a great example -- a believer in mysticism, I always > remember the scene where he is asked, "What's your greatest fear," > and he responds, "That love won't be enough." And you'll note that this quote is sampled, and the Twin Peaks theme is echoed, by Apoptygma Berzerk in "Moment of Tranquility," from the album _Welcome to Earth_ (2000). Aaron and Quail: >>it provides some insulation from the economy, and i suspect in most >>places >>you get to dress much differently from people doing the same job in a >>business setting. > >Amen, brother! Even now I am in jeans and a Neubauten T-shirt. I work at a private university too. We're all terribly underpaid here, but at least we're safe from layoffs (for now). And while I stopped wearing band t-shirts to work when I became a supervisor, I still have an 18-inch ponytail that might cause difficulties in many other jobs. I also get free run of a 2-million-volume library and occasional free food from student events. It's a pretty sweet deal. - --Chris np: Primal Scream, "Swastika Eyes" ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:48:21 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: blues and haikus Ken writes, >i thought that i was doing a series about the nature of things in the world. >i'm really sorry that it's considered bullying; but all people have to do is >delete it like i do with all of the stuff i don't have the time or >inclination... ee cummings, I presume? - --Q ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 11:55:22 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: blues and haikus On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, The Great Quail wrote: > >i thought that i was doing a series about the nature of things in the world. > >i'm really sorry that it's considered bullying; but all people have to do is > >delete it like i do with all of the stuff i don't have the time or > >inclination... > > ee cummings, I presume? I deplore all this decadent modernist pseudo-poetry! From now on, I urge everyone to post strictly in Augustan heroic couplets. Old English alliterative verse is acceptable too. - --Chris, who saw a book called The Complete HP Lovecraft Filmography among the approvals today ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 13:21:06 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: Lyrical Modulations Two things I remember about Robyn's Gellman Auditorium show on the Perspex Island tour in DC, which date I do not remember. A long introduction to Vegetation and Dimes, surreal description of an airplane perpetually circling, which he undercut by saying "In human terms: a person who can't commit." Not a change of lyrics, I know, I know. But revealing, I think. More to Ed's point was, at that same show, a long, very long improvisation over the groove of Freeze, while his guitar supposedly wasn't working. Andy and Morris chugged away while Robyn talked a bit then he said "Normally hyperspace has kicked in by now so I'll just keep going while they try to fix things," his roadies scurried around looking at his wireless connection to his amp. They didn't seem to be really doing anything. Plus it gave him a nice opportunity to rap over a sort of "rap"-like groove, climaxing in the image of giant wingless moths being transported in an airplane looking like huge cigars. He finally said "Let's do it the *old fashioned* way by plugging it in." His guitar came on and they did the song. Would he plan an accident? Have I found a way of lengthening my posts or what? I praise the online "Evolution of the Yip Song" as I would also praise pages documenting the middle rap of Underwater Moonlight. If all this formatting stays in place I will be happy as you, too should be happy. It's Friday. Ross Taylor "the pure products of America go crazy" - --WCW Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 18:21:29 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: Wiping Journaling "I" hate having to use "I" all the time. Keeping a journal makes "me" feel like a "self-important git"(which "I" am, but "I" dont want to -feel- like "I" am.) And once you start to create a character they pick up stuff, they become a suprise. "I" like that. "I" can be a prison. - -------------------------------- Doug: >but i'm having enough trouble with my wrists Condolances. Confession, so am I. I keep bending my hands broadsides back but it only helps for a moment. Any hints on how to minimize damage other than stop typing? (not an option) - --------------------------- Chris: >Perhaps _Drawing Down the Moon_ by Margot Adler? No, thou Ive read that one too. I checked last night--its The Triumph of the Moon by Ronald Hutton. Recommended for the scholarly, not the feeling side of things. Also, Im having a guilty consious today bout being abit snide bought Gardner. So let me say 1)damn the English Public School System 2)many covens(at least around here) do -not- still use whipping and 3) More Christians have probobly used Christianity to abuse themselves than Wiccans have used Wicca. There, I feel better now. >some people just *want* the myth of past (or >present) persecution because they enjoy the smugly satisfying >feeling of noble victimhood. Yes, and don't our culture encourage it. Quote I like, forget where I picked it up is -- "When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Dr. Robert Anthony. Great pictures. Too bad Mike hussled me out of the Philly show so fast;-) - ------------------------ Kenster >we all have to try >to reduce the suffering >that we help create Like that in general. Welcome to the human race. - --------------------------------- Jeme: Hmmmm, fresh ginger in cranberry sauce--I knew mine was missing -something-. When do you put it in? - ----------------------------- Haikus Will improve your smell-- Butt if rose in arse, Hope partner dethorned it first. Feg is like an arse. Needs many more rose petals, Or a good wiping. ;-) Kay, A man's life of any worth is a continual allegory. John Keats _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 10:25:48 -0800 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: Cranberries (100% Martha Stewart content) Last night I was flipping through channels and stopped on the Martha Stewart show on the Food Network. In a neat little bit of feg-synchronicity, she and a guest were making cranberry sauce. I don't know how similar their recipe is to Jeme's. One difference I recall is that Martha and guest used whole oranges rather than just juice. Keep an eye out -- I'm sure it will air again at some point before the holiday season is over. - -- I buried Paul! - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:31:28 -0800 (PST) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: Are you on the bus or off the bus? The first thing I heard on the radio this morning was that Oregon author Ken Kesey is critically ill in a Eugene hospital. Terminally ill with liver cancer. Oh hell. I lived in the bucolic town of Eugene for my last 2 years of college in 1991-1993. I'll never forget walking down 13th street and seeing the refurbished "Furthur" bus barreling down the street with a dozen aging Merry Pranksters tootling away on horns on the top. Ken Kesey was at the wheel, yelling out of a microphone. As I stared, goggle-eyed at this bit of history rolling past me, I heard Ken Kesey yell, "Hey! Let's go by High Street Cafe! They'll get a kick out of us there!" (High Street is just one of the million "McMenamin's" brewpubs in renovated old buildings here in Oregon). I hate to see Ken Kesey go, but imagine he and Neal Cassady have lots of catching up to do! Carole (bad) Robyn haiku: Queen of Eyes question Is it Mucky or Bucky? I bet Eddie knows. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 10:32:54 -0700 From: Eb Subject: re: ebspirit More froth: > > Will the Nader clique >> ever care that their tirades >> killed a list's spirit? > >So it was the Green party members from this list that got gw elected? Man, >I had no idea that our broad swords were so,, so broad. And it was the >Green Party that led to the collapse of the feglist and eventually the >United States of America? Or should that be 'the collapse of the United >States and eventually the feglist'? Um, are you insane? Your retorts about Dubya and the USA are a complete non sequitur. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:36:26 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: blues and haikus On Friday, November 9, 2001, at 10:55 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: > who saw a book called The Complete HP Lovecraft Filmography among the > approvals today All right then - http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005K3OC.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg and to fill out the double bill - http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005OSJW.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg but better than both of the above together - http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005JKEX.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg - - Steve __________ You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test. - George W. Bush ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:37:28 -0500 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: Livin' on Kesey Street sad to hear about Kesey -- I really enjoyed "Sometimes a Great Notion" and, oh yeah, whatever the other book was. the one about the nest. man, who woulda thought that a health nut like Kesey would end up with liver problems? can't he apply for the david crosby "i'm famous so I get the first available organ" donor program? or would that not help because the cancer metastisized? oh, great. now i'll be hearing "neal and jack and me" in my head the rest of the day. thanks. ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. 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To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 12:03:14 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: Fwd: Hope for Love Warning: this is from a list with high tolerance for band reunions-- - --- November 8. 2001 THIS IS GOOD NEWS: Dear friends, the California Circuit Appeals Court has decided to throw out Arthur Lee's original RIDICULOUS 12-year conviction from 1996 (gee, thanks Judge.) for firing a gun (in the air in Sherman Oaks, of all places.). They have given Los Angeles District Atty., Steven Cooley, 60 days to retry Arthur Lee or set him free. According to Arthur's close friend and former tour manager, David Fairweather (himself, an Asst. Santa Monica Dist. Atty.), Cooley will most likely declare Arthur's sentence "Time Served" and be done with it. So, friends, Arthur may be a free man again very soon. Unfortunately, he's had to spend the last 6 years behind bars instead of creating and performing great music IN BARS. But, such is life in the California Penal System. Just thought you'd like to know! ===== peace out, Mike Randle - --- Ross Taylor "The Rime of Silas Marner" "Tess of the Baskervilles" "The Hound of the D'Urbervilles" - --------- End Forwarded Message --------- Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com just thought I'd pass this news about Arthur Lee (Love) along for those who might care: November 8. 2001 THIS IS GOOD NEWS: Dear friends, the California Circuit Appeals Court has decided to throw out Arthur Lee's original REDICULOUS 12-year conviction from 1996 (gee, thanks Judge.) for firing a gun (in the air in Sherman Oaks, of all places.). They have given Los Angeles District Atty., Steven Cooley, 60 days to retry Arthur Lee or set him free. According to Arthur's close friend and former tour manager, David Fairweather (himself, an Asst. Santa Monica Dist. Atty.), Cooley will most likely declare Arthur's sentence "Time Served" and be done with it. So, friends, Arthur may be a free man again very soon. Unfortunately, he's had to spend the last 6 years behind bars instead of creating and performing great music IN BARS. But, such is life in the California Penal System. Just thought you'd like to know! ===== peace out, Mike Randle ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 13:44:36 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Wiping On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Redtailed Hawk wrote: > Great pictures. Too bad Mike hussled me out of the Philly show so fast;-) The downside of posting those pictures is, if you (Kay) read the captions, you now know that the guy you met with the shaved head and taping rig wasn't Eb. Oh, well, nothing lasts. - --Chris "Laugh while you still have-a time, monkey-boy!" --Dr. Emilio Lizardo ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:20:20 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: re: ebspirit revisited > Um, are you insane? Depends on your circle. > Your retorts about Dubya and the USA are a complete non sequitur. No, in fact I was using your psuedo-propagandist doomsday haiku regarding the feglist to issue psusedo-propagandist doomsday rhetoric regarding the U.S, while using the whole ebspirit thing to introduce the 'new' ebconspiracy concept but mostly in fact to remind people not to forget how much the Democrats and Republicans really suck and that the two party system except of course if compared to any single party system or worse, also really sucks and so that I include this little bit about Chelsey C. "Over the summer I thought that I would seek out non-Americans as friends, just for diversity's sake. Now I find that I want to be around Americans - -- people who I know are thinking about our country as much as I am." The 21-year-old daughter of former U.S. President Bill Clinton and senator Hillary, said questions about whether Osama bin Laden was behind the attacks, and scepticism over America's humanitarian commitment to Afghanistan, made her "bristle." "The idea that anyone believes America would enter into this capriciously boggles my mind, and the notion that the United States is acting without regard to the Afghan people is offensive." By CNN's Dylan Reynolds http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/11/09/clinton.oxford/index.html gSs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:29:34 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: compu-Q is there a good non-proprietary way of doing includes in a web page? i mean something that does not involve frontpage webbots or dreamweaver templates, etc? Ross2, i was at that GWU show in 92 as well! But it was at Lisner, not Gelman. (Chris, think you could host an Egyptians show anywhere there in the library?) Alas, my friend's Aiwa tape came out crappy, and woj's batteries gave out after 20 minutes, so we have no real record of that gig beyond our own memories. maybe that's enough. =b poetry listserv!? i did not sign on for this ebomination - -- http://glasshotel.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:43:39 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: Wiping On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Redtailed Hawk wrote: re: wrist troubles > Condolances. Confession, so am I. I keep bending my hands broadsides back > but it only helps for a moment. Any hints on how to minimize damage other > than stop typing? (not an option) Actually, I've been told by a massage therapist that stretching your hands back isquite bad for your arms and wrists. It feels like a strain-reduction but it's actually tensing the muscles up more. What this lady told me to do was to massage the muscles in the arm, using your thumb and stroking downwards with a lot of pressure. It seems to help me alright. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:51:42 -0700 From: Eb Subject: re: ebspirit revisited > > Your retorts about Dubya and the USA are a complete non sequitur. > >No, in fact I was using your psuedo-propagandist doomsday haiku regarding >the feglist to issue psusedo-propagandist doomsday rhetoric regarding the >U.S, while using the whole ebspirit thing to introduce the 'new' >ebconspiracy concept but mostly in fact to remind people not to forget how >much the Democrats and Republicans really suck and that the two party >system except of course if compared to any single party system or worse, >also really sucks and so that I include this little bit about Chelsey C. > >"Over the summer I thought that I would seek out non-Americans as friends, >just for diversity's sake. Now I find that I want to be around Americans >-- people who I know are thinking about our country as much as I am." > >The 21-year-old daughter of former U.S. President Bill Clinton and senator >Hillary, said questions about whether Osama bin Laden was behind the >attacks, and scepticism over America's humanitarian commitment to Afghanistan, made her "bristle." - --- OK, so I'm still thinking "insane" at this point. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 15:28:53 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: the slate clean? On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Viv Lyon wrote: > On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Redtailed Hawk wrote: > > re: wrist troubles > > Condolances. Confession, so am I. I keep bending my hands broadsides back > > but it only helps for a moment. Any hints on how to minimize damage other > > than stop typing? (not an option) > > Actually, I've been told by a massage therapist that stretching your hands > back isquite bad for your arms and wrists. It feels like a > strain-reduction but it's actually tensing the muscles up more. What this > lady told me to do was to massage the muscles in the arm, using your thumb > and stroking downwards with a lot of pressure. It seems to help me > alright. I've read so many contradictory things about which sorts of tension/motion/etc might allegedly be helpful/harmful that I've come the conclusion that no one really knows. Varying the stres-inducing activity (stop typing, even for a few minutes) is the best thing I know. re: web page includes w/o proprietary tech: not as such, as far as I know, but you can use javascript, cgi, etc. to build pages on the fly, and you can use perl etc. to generate static pages from templates -- i.e., a dreamweaver like approach, except you do all the work. i usesta have some cool wordbasic tools, even, but they all broke when microsoft word got its own features for html and quit handling it as if they were just text files. bummer. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:38:00 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Wiping On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Redtailed Hawk wrote: > Hmmmm, fresh ginger in cranberry sauce--I knew mine was missing -something-. > When do you put it in? I usually add it as the cranberries are popping. Make sure it gets a good long boil... and keep stirring. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:39:42 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Cranberries (100% Martha Stewart content) On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Glen Uber wrote: > she and a guest were making cranberry sauce. > > I don't know how similar their recipe is to Jeme's. One difference I > recall is that Martha and guest used whole oranges rather than just > juice. I don't like whole oranges (though fresh squeezed juice is far superior to the quick'n'dirty concentrate version) because I prefer all of the solid substance in my sauce to be cranberries. Whole oranges leave chunks of... whole aroange in the sauce. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:41:24 -0800 (PST) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: the slate clean? On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, dmw wrote: > I've read so many contradictory things about which sorts of > tension/motion/etc might allegedly be helpful/harmful that I've come the > conclusion that no one really knows. It probably varies from person to person, due to the wonderful variation of physiognomy in the human race. Some persons may be helped by performing ritual sacrifices to Baal, for all I know. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 12:51:04 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Wiping On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Redtailed Hawk wrote: > Condolances. Confession, so am I. I keep bending my hands broadsides > back but it only helps for a moment. Any hints on how to minimize > damage other than stop typing? (not an option) There are LOADS of good web pages on this subject because so many programmers and such have terrible problems with repetitive strain disorders. Your best bet is to take regular breaks and not type for too long at a stretch. I have a utility that will sound an alert if there is constant keyboard activity for a certain duration and the keyboard will simply STOP RESPONDING for a period and force you to take a little break. There is a module for this utility that gives you graphics during the break period (assuming you're running a X at the time) to step you through exercises during the period of rest. Posture is another huge one. One of the great hackers of all time (and I mean that in the "skilled tradesman" sense, as opposed to "cracker"), author of XEmacs and various highly useful things, now has VERY limited use of his hands and arms because of a pinched nerve in his chest due to poor posture at the keyboard. I have a balans chair and try to sit quite upright while typing over time. Remember not to let your wrists fall below your fingers in the horizontal plane. I also have an adjustable keyboard that is split into sections. The sections can be adjusted for horizontal and vertical angles so that your hands are in a more natural fetal position (curved toward one another and slightly downward). It's the Kinesis Maxim keyboard, if anyone's wondering. However, my great love is the IBM Selectric keyboard. I'm using that one right now because I'm working on the machine in Viv's dressing room and she's got my best keyboard. I had a terrible problem with my shoulder a year ago and have since learned the danger of using the mouse. I try hard to stay away from the thing now. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:53:25 -0600 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Burning 4 You Well, barely six months and my new IDE HP9500i CD burner draws down the curtain and joins the choir invisible. Yes, it's under warranty and yes I'll be getting a replacement, but what I just had to go through with HP's 'customer disservice' department leaves me looking for a more reliable version for my other box. Any recommendations on SCSI burners? Good luck with certain manufacturers? Haikus? Michael "and this isn't my nose, it's a false one" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 15:58:15 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Burning 4 You On Fri, Nov 9, 2001, Mike Wells wrote: > Any recommendations on SCSI burners? Good luck with certain > manufacturers? Haikus? Yamahas are, or at least were, awesome. We had some at NEC, where I used to work, and we used them all day. Bullet proof. Every once in a while they had to be sent out to be serviced, or whatever, and always came back good as new. Plextor were always great, too. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 13:03:15 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Burning 4 You On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Mike Wells wrote: > Any recommendations on SCSI burners? Good luck with certain > manufacturers? Haikus? I love my SCSI devices: Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 Vendor: YAMAHA Model: CRW8424S Rev: 1.0j Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00 Vendor: TOSHIBA Model: DVD-ROM SD-M1201 Rev: 1008 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 They're fantastic and never give me a lick of trouble. The Yamaha is the CDRW and the Toshiba is a DVD-ROM (as the model numbers tell). Really nice. My friend Gary has the same Yamaha CDRW drive with an IDE interface and still uses it with no problems. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 15:25:38 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Burning 4 You On Fri, 9 Nov 2001, Mike Wells wrote: > Any recommendations on SCSI burners? Good luck with certain > manufacturers? I went through 3 IDE drives before I settled on a SCSI Plextor -- two years of faithful service so far. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #425 ********************************