From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #424 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, November 9 2001 Volume 10 : Number 424 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Lyrical Modulations (100% RH) ["Poole, R. Edward" ] love Athena ["Natalie Jane" ] hi, coup! ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: War is Tautology ["Fric Chaud" ] Re: War is Tautology ["Fric Chaud" ] Re: love Athena [Eb ] Re: War is Tautology [Eb ] Tautolly Awesome ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Cranberries (0% Dolores O'Riordon content) [Capuchin ] Haikus; three different ones [The Great Quail ] Re: Haikus; three different ones [Capuchin ] Re: Haikus; three different ones [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Haikus; three different ones [Tom Clark ] Re: loves me loves me not [dmw ] Re: Haikus; three different ones [] Re: Tautolly Awesome ["victorian squid" ] Re: love Athena ["victorian squid" ] Re: War is Tautology ["FS Thomas" ] rumors? [Eb ] coo! hi! [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: rumors? ["FS Thomas" ] It's a Shame about Stan (and Kyle and Kenny and Eric) [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: War is Tautology [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Responses; three different ones [Jason Thornton ] Re: Haikus; three different ones [Jason Thornton ] Re: Haikus; three different ones [Jason Thornton ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #423 ["Brian Hoare" ] Re: Cranberries (0% Dolores O'Riordon content) [Jeff Dwarf ] General Posting [The Great Quail ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #423 [The Great Quail ] re: ebspirit [gSs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:19:14 -0500 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: Lyrical Modulations (100% RH) Please forgive me, but this is a ... gasp! ... Robyn Hitchcock-related thread. We will return you to your regularly scheduled programming in a bit, but first: what are your favorite in-concert lyric changes? For some reason, I have "Ye Sleeping Knights of Jesus" running through my head, but it isn't the IODOT version, but the 7/27/90 Chicago version (my first RH show, you see. Come to think of it, I think my guilty conscience is making me listen to this over and over again, for having not transferred this show to CDR as I promised Lang 6 months ago I would do). (look, I know this topic has probably gone around before; so sue me. I wasn't there, but I'm here now and it's interesting to me. If you disagree, stony silence is preferable to "go check the archives, ya mook"-type messages. that is all.) Anyhoo -- in this version, there are a number of lyrical alterations/additions, which are some of my favorites (and, in the case of several songs that I heard for the first time that night, never having heard the album versions to that point, these in-concert changes feel like the "real" lyrics to me -- "Birdshead," "Bones in the Ground," "I Got a Message For You," "I Watch The Cars," "Ye Sleeping Knights of Jesus" -- when I listen to the "official version" of these songs, they always sound wrong to me) -- like: "Or alcoholic poisoning, in the ROCK CLUB of your choice" "Put your faith in death, because it's free" ("and a fairly safe bet") "For God's sake, don't waste any faith on me" ("but you can buy all the records you want") "2000 years, and he ain't been back yet" (sarcastically: "but He's coming") The intro to this tune is one of my fave Robyn speils, too -- going on about how the song has responses and he hates asking people to do that kinda thing, but it would be silly to deny it, and "it would be really supportive if you wanted to do it, I mean I wouldn't actually give you any of the gig money, but... [drowned out by laughter]" so, what else? and not just "abuse and decay," "decay and abuse," etc, but specific, not necessarily one-time-only, but different -- you know what I mean. Discuss. ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:30:30 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: love Athena >Perhaps _Drawing Down the Moon_ by Margot Adler? Yeah, that must be it. It's pretty good, though woefully outdated. I wish I could join up with the Sabean Church, they sound like they know how to throw a party. I wonder if they're still around. They were based in Chicago... Susan? Does that name sound familiar? >And, in my cynical opinion, some people just *want* the myth of past >(or >present) persecution because they enjoy the smugly satisfying >feeling of >noble victimhood. A Wiccan friend suggested that the "9 million" figure was an attempt to one-up (or 3 million-up) the Holocaust. Uh-oh, Godwin's Law... >In a related story: I've been recently giving my band-links page a >major overhaul, and I was trying to find a functioning Olivia Tremor >Control site just last night. They all seem to be dead! ... >Thank goodness I didn't go with my first impulse, >which was to suggest the Ancient Greek Homeric >Epic form for all future "Elephant 6"-related info! The Olivia Tremor Control, the band we love so dearly Seems to have splintered as if upon Scylla's rock The Circulatory System, Will Cullen Hart's new band Has a website located at www.cloudrecordings.com Don't know about the other Olivia side projects You could try looking at www.elephant6co.com With wise Athena's guidance you may find something... (Sorry, my trochaic hexameter is rusty... left it out in the rain... and how do URL's scan, anyway?) n. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:31:46 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: hi, coup! what season is it? whence the tranquil nature scenes? you call this haiku? - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:07:32 -0500 From: "Fric Chaud" Subject: Re: War is Tautology I don't understand. What are all you guys doing? Some kind of rap thing? Did I post this twice? Forgive me -- I'm Quebecois; we always do that. I just realised. The last two were sent to woj. I am really dense. On 8 Nov 2001, at 17:57, Ken Ostrander wrote: > >>>how much does it cost? > >>>all of your conveniences > >>>are paid for in blood > > > >another thread sunk > >hamfisted harangues return > >the list's mood blackens > > don't get so depressed > let the jingo bring solace > and shop til you drop - -- Fric Chaud ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:47:41 -0500 From: "Fric Chaud" Subject: Re: War is Tautology I don't understand. What are all you guys doing? Some kind of rap thing? On 8 Nov 2001, at 17:57, Ken Ostrander wrote: > >>>how much does it cost? > >>>all of your conveniences > >>>are paid for in blood > > > >another thread sunk > >hamfisted harangues return > >the list's mood blackens > > don't get so depressed > let the jingo bring solace > and shop til you drop - -- Fric Chaud ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:22:55 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: love Athena >You could try looking at www.elephant6co.com One of *several* potentially worthwhile domain names which have suddenly started redirecting to this *hideous* "Euro Teen Sluts" domain, which, in turn, ricochets about six new porn windows across your computer screen. Whatta headache. Try it. :( Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:26:52 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: War is Tautology > >>take this simple thought >>>hold out for something better >>>while you live your life >>> >>>we all have to try >>>to reduce the suffering >>>that we help create >> >>please don't pretend that >>your browbeating's positive >>and altruistic > >obviously, you >will interpret what i say >however you want All threads poisoned with radical sloganeering Why post anymore? The list rings hollow Going through the motions since the election year Will the Nader clique ever care that their tirades killed a list's spirit? Apparently not, since they pointlessly repeat the same soundbites, still Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 19:49:06 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Tautolly Awesome haiku distraction -- i've got a novel to write! make it go away! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:57:01 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Cranberries (0% Dolores O'Riordon content) On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Does anyone have a good recipe for Cranberry Sauce? Do you really even > need a recipe to make it? I got volunteered into making some from > scratch for that popular late November holiday, when the Lions and > Cowboys sully our (that is to say Americans) televisions. My cranberry is the bomb. I am the Cran-King. I generally don't use a recipe, but sometimes it takes hours to get it just right. Mostly, you're just boiling cranberries in orange juice and brown sugar. This is just from memory and I haven't made any in a year, but here's a guess: The cheap and easy way is to get two bags of cranberries (12 oz each), a forzen orange juice concentrate, and some brown sugar. I also have some fresh ginger and fresh ground horseradish on hand as well. Most of a cup of brown sugar, the orange juice concentrate, and just over a quart of water. Dissolve it all and get it simmerin'. I often add ground and sliced ginger at this point because it's tastey. I pour the cranberries out into a bowl and run through with my hands to find the soft or slippery ones... they get thrown out. When I've weeded out the nasty berries, they go into the pot. Keep stirring and bring up the heat. After a while, your cranberries will start popping. Bring it to a boil and when it's boiling good, you can start mashing some of the whole berries that didn't pop on their own. A quick squish against the side of the pot works fine. You don't want it to be too uniform, but you dont' want any whole berries, either. You've got to really boil it for a while, stirring the whole time, until it looks like it might thicken up when it cools. It doesn't thicken totally up while it's hot, like cherry pie filling... it has to cool for that. But it should be candy-hot. I then pour about two thirds of that into a big bowl and put it in the fridge. The other third I put into another bowl and mix in about half a cup (more or less, to taste) of horseradish. It turns a milky-pink. Put it in the fridge and you've got two tastey relishes for Thanksgiving. This can be done as much as a week in advance. Hell, I keep it in the refrigerator for a month. PS, this makes a TON of sauce, but I always do. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:02:37 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: love Athena On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Natalie Jane wrote: > A Wiccan friend suggested that the "9 million" figure was an attempt > to one-up (or 3 million-up) the Holocaust. If "the Holocaust" refers only to the extermination of the Jews in Nazi Germany, I'm with you... But it's my understanding that the number is around 9 million for people that Hitler had rounded up and killed... 6 jews and 3 Other (gays, blacks, whatever). Is this not based in fact? J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 21:06:26 -0800 From: The Great Quail Subject: Haikus; three different ones Iv'ry Tower Ken.... Wow, MIT tuition -- Much Quik for Afghans! Angry, angry Eb; Writes rock reviews in haiku Take that, damn Lawndart! Jason sick of verse, Dreams of sweet, sweet Richard Gere. Poor fucking gerbil. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:19:44 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Haikus; three different ones On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, The Great Quail wrote: > Iv'ry Tower Ken.... > Wow, MIT tuition -- > Much Quik for Afghans! For general information, Ken doesn't attend MIT, he works there. I don't think having an administrative job at a university puts one in an ivory tower... does it, Jason? J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 21:24:07 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Haikus; three different ones On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Capuchin wrote: > I don't think having an administrative job at a university puts one in > an ivory tower... does it, Jason? it provides some insulation from the economy, and i suspect in most places you get to dress much differently from people doing the same job in a business setting. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 18:25:38 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Haikus; three different ones on 11/8/01 6:19 PM, Capuchin at capuchin@bitmine.net wrote: > I don't think having an administrative job at a university puts one in an > ivory tower... does it, Jason? I think it means you sweep the ivory tower. Metaphorically... Anybody see South Park last night? - -tc n.p. Radio station from Kauai. Ahh, to be back there... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 21:38:57 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: Re: loves me loves me not On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Capuchin wrote: > But it's just propaganda because the REAL generals don't think that way. and how many do you know, personally, well enough to have off the record heart-to-heart -- or even head-to-head -- talks with? for what it's worth, i've never known any general that well -- the highest ranking army guy, in fact, a major, was a bit of a jerk. in the main, though, i've found my experiences working with comparitively high-ranking military personnel have done enormous damage to some of the prejudices i used to hold dear. pointlessly, - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:39:14 -0800 (PST) From: Subject: Re: Haikus; three different ones On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Aaron Mandel wrote: > On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Capuchin wrote: > > > I don't think having an administrative job at a university puts one in > > an ivory tower... does it, Jason? > > it provides some insulation from the economy, and i suspect in most places > you get to dress much differently from people doing the same job in a > business setting. Isulation from the economy? Pshaw! not a Public university anyway! Economy goes down. Tax revenues go down. Budget cuts commence. Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "Life boring when you no can die" -Solomon Grundy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 19:16:02 -0800 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Re: Tautolly Awesome On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 19:49:06 Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: >haiku distraction -- >i've got a novel to write! >make it go away! My nano novel A thousand pound gorilla Hanging on my neck I am not that far Compared to Gene Hopstetter I hate his fool guts Susan of 11 thousand words :) Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 19:47:48 -0800 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Re: love Athena On Thu, 08 Nov 2001 16:30:30 Natalie Jane wrote: >I could join up with the Sabean Church, they sound like they know how to >throw a party. I wonder if they're still around. They were based in >Chicago... Susan? Does that name sound familiar? Apparently they never invited me because I'm not familiar with them :). >(Sorry, my trochaic hexameter is rusty... left it out in the rain... and how >do URL's scan, anyway?) I'm just waiting for the list to go silent for three days while everyone sits around composing a bunch of posts in ottava rima. Susan Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 23:09:41 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: Re: War is Tautology > >>take this simple thought > >>hold out for something better > >>while you live your life > >> > >>we all have to try > >>to reduce the suffering > >>that we help create > > > >please don't pretend that > >your browbeating's positive > >and altruistic War is indeed Hell. Of course post your resume. Electric paper. Convenient lines. Lucky juxtiposition. Odd happenstance, that. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:28:10 -0700 From: Eb Subject: rumors? Is George Harrison...? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:47:41 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: coo! hi! >I think we should all strictly adhere to the >classical 5-7-5 Haiku convention in all .sig >files from now on. For example: That's a tricky one I hope Eno doesn't mind My corrected sig James -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. You talk from afar =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- I reply with impressions -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- from another time James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 01:03:11 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: Re: rumors? Nothing on the BBC, CNN, etc. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eb" To: "reap:" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:28 PM Subject: rumors? > Is George Harrison...? > > Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 23:02:32 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: It's a Shame about Stan (and Kyle and Kenny and Eric) Tom Clark wrote: > Anybody see South Park last night? aye. sort of like watching bob hope stumble around incoherently. except SP used to be funny. the cartman as bugs bunny/osama bin laden as elmer fudd crap was especially disheartening. Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 23:05:34 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: hi, coup! "Andrew D. Simchik" wrote: > what season is it? > whence the tranquil nature scenes? > you call this haiku? Autumn, you bastard Picky, picky, picky, bleh A rose in your arse Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 23:21:20 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: War is Tautology Fric Chaud wrote: > I don't understand. What are all you guys doing? Some kind of > rap thing? Haiku is traditional japanese poetry of 17 syllables, usually written in english in three lines of 5, 7, and then 5 syllables; it's traditionally be about some aspect of nature. of course, being americans we don't bother with that. Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 22:09:21 -0800 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: Responses; three different ones At 06:39 PM 11/8/2001 -0800, ringostr@u.washington.edu wrote: >On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Aaron Mandel wrote: > >> On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Capuchin wrote: >> >> > I don't think having an administrative job at a university puts one in >> > an ivory tower... does it, Jason? I can't speak for anyone else, but it sure does for me. ;) >> it provides some insulation from the economy, and i suspect in most places >> you get to dress much differently from people doing the same job in a >> business setting. Ah, you've seen me go to work in my Minders t-shirt, haven't you? >Isulation from the economy? Pshaw! not a Public university anyway! Economy goes down. Tax revenues go down. Budget cuts commence. The UC system has had pay-cuts during times of financial crisis, and sometimes hiring freezes - but, it is very unlikely that people will ever get laid off. So, there's some, very small degree of insulation from the economy I'd say - even at a public university. Or at least this one. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 22:41:18 -0800 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: Haikus; three different ones At 09:06 PM 11/8/2001 -0800, The Great Quail wrote: >Jason sick of verse, >Dreams of sweet, sweet Richard Gere. >Poor fucking gerbil. Quail, get out of my head! ;) A few months ago, I was a juror on an extremely boring, three week long civil case. During some of the lulls in the testimony and the numerous side-bars, I took to writing haikus about the case in my little juror's notebook. Sure did help pass the time... Jason ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 22:31:32 -0800 From: Jason Thornton Subject: Re: Haikus; three different ones At 06:25 PM 11/8/2001 -0800, Tom Clark wrote: >on 11/8/01 6:19 PM, Capuchin at capuchin@bitmine.net wrote: > >> I don't think having an administrative job at a university puts one in an >> ivory tower... does it, Jason? > >I think it means you sweep the ivory tower. Metaphorically... That's about right. Either that, or we're the guys that go out and slaughter a bunch of endangered elephants to get enough ivory for the scholars to construct their precious towers. >Anybody see South Park last night? Yes! How many other shows are even acknowledging the fact that we're at war? Jason ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 10:33:19 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #423 From: dmw dmw: >i only vaguely remember 'daisy bomb' -- that never got released anywhere, >did it? It's on Star for Bram. Which I seem to play a lot more that JfS. >but i think y'all are offbase with the weapons bit, i think it's >a reference to the (semi-mythical?) image of pretty young hippies putting >flowers in the barrels of natioanl guardsmen's rifles, and an inversion of >what y'all've talkin' aboot -- To me daisy bomb is a floral orgasm or the desire to engulf the beloved in the golden heat of an english july afternoon. An intra couple explosion of love. The pretty young things and their flowers against war was revived yesterday when prince charles was slapped in the face with a red carnation by a Latvian girl. Vicious was the word that sprang to mind. >and an inversion of what y'all've talkin' aboot a bomb that spreads >happiness among people >whether they want it or not. wasn't the tune about finding yourself >suddenly, maybe even unwillingly, in love? or am i projecting again? The would be the Blossom Toes' (100% gold plated, purified) Love Bomb. brian (they can make it rain bombs but they can't make it rain) hoare np Odgens' NutGone Flake _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 03:25:31 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Cranberries (0% Dolores O'Riordon content) Capuchin wrote: > On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Does anyone have a good recipe for Cranberry Sauce? Do you really > even > > need a recipe to make it? I got volunteered into making some from > > scratch for that popular late November holiday, when the Lions and > > Cowboys sully our (that is to say Americans) televisions. > > My cranberry is the bomb. I am the Cran-King. just as long as we don't have to suffer through biopic directed by oliver stone, with Eb as the naked indian... > I generally don't use a recipe, but sometimes it takes hours to get > it just right. > > Mostly, you're just boiling cranberries in orange juice and brown > sugar. groovus. i figured it wasn't all that different from making apple sauce, which is more or less just boiling down apples in a bit of water, and then adding cinnamon or whatever to taste. > This is just from memory and I haven't made any in a year, but here's > a guess: > > The cheap and easy way is to get two bags of cranberries (12 oz > each), a forzen orange juice concentrate, and some brown sugar. I > also have some fresh ginger and fresh ground horseradish on hand as > well. > > Most of a cup of brown sugar, the orange juice concentrate, and just > over a quart of water. Dissolve it all and get it simmerin'. I > often add ground and sliced ginger at this point because it's tastey. > > I pour the cranberries out into a bowl and run through with my hands > to find the soft or slippery ones... they get thrown out. When I've > weeded out the nasty berries, they go into the pot. > > Keep stirring and bring up the heat. After a while, your cranberries > will start popping. > > Bring it to a boil and when it's boiling good, you can start mashing > some of the whole berries that didn't pop on their own. A quick > squish against the side of the pot works fine. You don't want it to > be too uniform, but you dont' want any whole berries, either. > > You've got to really boil it for a while, stirring the whole time, > until it looks like it might thicken up when it cools. It doesn't > thicken totally up while it's hot, like cherry pie filling... it has > to cool for that. But it should be candy-hot. > > I then pour about two thirds of that into a big bowl and put it in > the fridge. The other third I put into another bowl and mix in about > half a cup (more or less, to taste) of horseradish. It turns a > milky-pink. > > Put it in the fridge and you've got two tastey relishes for > Thanksgiving. > > This can be done as much as a week in advance. > > Hell, I keep it in the refrigerator for a month. > > PS, this makes a TON of sauce, but I always do. > > J. > -- > _______________________________________________ > > Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:32:46 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Haikus; three different ones Cappy writes, in blank verse: >I don't think having an administrative job at a university puts one in an >ivory tower... does it, Jason? Or me, for that matter -- I work at, but do not attend, Columbia University. Aaron writes, >it provides some insulation from the economy, and i suspect in most places >you get to dress much differently from people doing the same job in a >business setting. Amen, brother! Even now I am in jeans and a Neubauten T-shirt. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:35:00 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: General Posting dmw writes, >in the main, though, i've found my experiences working with comparitively >high-ranking military personnel have done enormous damage to some of the >prejudices i used to hold dear. I feel the same way. I have certainly met a few lunk-headed armed services types, but the highest ranking person I ever knew -- a "mere" Captain -- was surprising literate, well-read, and had the remarkable tendency *not* to foam at the mouth. It caused some damage to my own youthful stereotypes, mostly garnered from watching TV, where we know that *all* officers above Colonel are just bad. Actually, I have a weird attraction for the philosopher-warrior type of character, probably because it's an unusual blend of opposites and plays against stereotype. The Major (was that his rank?) from "Twin Peaks" was a great example -- a believer in mysticism, I always remember the scene where he is asked, "What's your greatest fear," and he responds, "That love won't be enough." General Cummings in Norman Mailer's "The Naked and the Dead" is a great example. He's a right bastard, but a thinking, moody bastard, and the interplay between him and his intellectual lieutenant is fantastic.... - --The Great "Seen 'Patton' too many times as a kid" Quail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:31:31 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #423 Brian writes, >Vicious was the word that sprang to mind. Did she do it every hour? - --Quail PS: I also agree with your idea about what Daisy Bomb means, which I think is a beautiful Robynism. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:20:07 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: re: ebspirit On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Eb wrote: > Will the Nader clique > ever care that their tirades > killed a list's spirit? So it was the Green party members from this list that got gw elected? Man, I had no idea that our broad swords were so,, so broad. And it was the Green Party that led to the collapse of the feglist and eventually the United States of America? Or should that be 'the collapse of the United States and eventually the feglist'? Do you write for third rock? If that is all it takes, then no. In fact the Nader Clique as opposed to the partisan heads up your ass clique, is in fact pleased. The long train of change is now running. Within 10 years the Republicans and Democrats will be just like the former soviet union, a real leason. And as soon as Mexico and Canada get through squabbling over the division of the former US territories then we can start the witch hunt for the cause which is of course either the democrats and republicans who fostered the two party system through overly manipulative propaganda and flouride or the green fegs. Burn the witches and their god(s) unless of course they turn out to be the fegs of green, then just decide if you want to be Mexican or Canadian. gSs ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #424 ********************************