From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #421 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, November 6 2001 Volume 10 : Number 421 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Feeding the Tree (Tree Content: 98%, Trades: 2%) [FS Thomas ] 88 strings in the big guitar! ["Redtailed Hawk" ] Re: oily prices [gSs ] Re: oils/prices ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: itunes trashes mac data ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Eh, Wozzeck! [The Great Quail ] Ghostships [The Great Quail ] mo' nanowrimo ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] return of the table mesa ["ross taylor" ] Pink Floyd Arnold Layne on BBC 2 (fwd) [bayard ] RE: Pink Floyd Arnold Layne on BBC 2 (fwd) ["Larry O'Brien" ] Re: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork ["Maximilian Lang" ] NaNoWriMo writing! [Carole Reichstein ] Re: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork [Eb ] Re: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork [Tom Clark ] Re: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork/Six Degrees of Mary- Lynn ["Maximilian L] Re: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork/Six Degrees of Mary- Lynn [Eb ] Daisy Bomb ["Russ Reynolds" ] Re: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork/Six Degrees of Mary- Lynn [FS Thomas ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 06:24:44 -0800 (PST) From: FS Thomas Subject: Feeding the Tree (Tree Content: 98%, Trades: 2%) Hello, One and All. I was un-subbed for a while but have re-enlisted from home. Jill: if you get the chance, could you drop me a line regarding the tree? I seem to have misplaced all the emails regarding it. I had heard from my branch, but can't find that, either. I've updated the list again. Anyone interested can cruise by http://www.ochremedia.com/trades. Thanks! - -ferris. ferris621@earthlink.net - -or- ferris@ochremedia.com) Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 08:58:53 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: itunes trashes mac data On Tuesday, November 6, 2001, at 03:06 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Please, let's not hijack the one letter that Unix users have known (and > occasionally not cursed) since 1987; X is the X Window System. Unix? Is that something new that Apple invented? Just kidding - Steve __________ For four out of five American families, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation, this year's rebate is most of what they will ever get from the Bush tax cut. Those future tax cuts that Mr. Lindsey wants to defend are overwhelmingly for the very, very affluent  and they will severely squeeze every other national priority. So why not reconsider them? - Paul Krugman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 15:57:27 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: 88 strings in the big guitar! Gene >But I'll be damned if I don't feel the story is already there and >fully developed, but that I just have to type it out. It's one of >the weirdest and most exciting things I've ever felt. Gene, that is great. I get moments of that but also moments of fear and blankness. Congradulations. What sort of novel is it? Any other tips? - ------------------- Thanks all for the ghostsip imput. Wagner, Iron Maiden doing Coleridge(the best ref question I ever got was--"Tell me what the Albatros symbolises in 'The Rime of Silas Mariner'")and Sting. Definite material there. - ------------------------ Nat: >Avoid "The Mists of Avalon" unless you want a good laugh. Nat for once I have to slightly disagree with your top notch tastes. Id put "Mists" under the "Guilty Pleasures taken with a bucket of salt" category;-). Glad we agree about the White. - -------------------------- Ross: >That's hilarious. We gotta get these sets of >charactors together. Aslan vr Cthula. Lets see--some would say Cthula would eat Aslan. Others would say Aslan would breathe on Cuthula and turn it into its true form--a noble gryfon? One destroys, one transfigures. Which is more powerful? - ------------------------ In our popular library I just stumbled on a big picture book about the blues. My guess is its really by the guy listed as its co-author, Terry Taylor--but the main credit is given to ...Bill Wyman? Anyone know if its worth reading? - -------------------------- Musical Buffy tonight! - ----------------------- I want Robyn to get an 88-string guitar! Kay A man's life of any worth is a continual allegory. John Keats _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:13:06 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: oily prices On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Melissa Higuchi wrote: > the merch prices seemed really high. just wanted to ask concert going fegs > if $30-40 was really the going price for concert t-shirts these days. I think the underwater moonlight reunion tour shirts were going for fifteen or twenty in Portland, but I don't remember precisely. I believe an 80/20 t-shirt is worth less than 70 cents in bulk and with the standard type prints you are probably looking at a cost well below 4 dollars per 1000, US dollars that is. There are exceptions as the more colors, detail the higher the price. Plus if you don't order in large lots the price goes way up per unit. Should we now automatically refer to US currency amounts as US currency amounts? I wonder if we will ever switch to the peso? I hope Mexico is the next super-power, bein that they are so close. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:26:48 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: oily prices hey splangies, I was wondering if anyone is writing asp pages on asp 3.0 and if you have started using either Server.Execute or Server.Transfer? I have a couple questions regarding their use. Please reply off list. Thanks, gSs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 08:25:19 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: oils/prices At 02:18 PM 11/6/2001 +0000, Melissa Higuchi wrote: >the merch prices seemed really high. just wanted to ask concert going fegs >if $30-40 was really the going price for concert t-shirts these days. That's about right. Upper $20's on up seems to be the going rate at any sizable venue, in part because the house usually takes a large cut. You're much better off waiting and purchasing the same shirt from a band's website or CD-Now for a lot less. $10-$15 seems to be the average for indie band merch at small clubs - sometimes they're almost too affordable not to buy. Which is why I've stocked up on these Elephant 6 band tees. :) Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 08:26:40 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: itunes trashes mac data At 08:58 AM 11/6/2001 -0600, steve wrote: >On Tuesday, November 6, 2001, at 03:06 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > >>Please, let's not hijack the one letter that Unix users have known (and >>occasionally not cursed) since 1987; X is the X Window System. > > >Unix? Is that something new that Apple invented? Methinks you're thinking of iNix. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:33:30 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Eh, Wozzeck! From Ebmaniax: > The songs of "Red Drum" were inspired by the nearly 200-year-old Georg > Buchner play "Woyzeck," the tale of a poor soldier driven mad by > medical experiments and an unfaithful wife. Sebastian writes, >IMHO Buechner was a genius. My final German Lit. exam was on "Leonce >and Lena". "Woyzeck" has of course been treated in many ways, so >this isn't exactly a surprising choice, but I'm curious anyway. I am totally psyched for this! The play itself is great, but better still is Alban Berg's atonal opera. Really, it's one of my favorite operas, and not at all "opera" in the traditional sense of the word, or at least the Italian or even Wagnerian sense most people conjure up. Berg's "Wozzeck" is a nightmare of a piece, harsh and moody and strange, influenced by Schoenberg twelve-tone music, classical form, and even cabaret. The Met does a fantastic version, staged like a German expressionist film. (They actually just filed it a few weeks ago, and will be broadcast on PBS next year.) One of my favorite directors, Werner Herzog, also filmed a version of the play, with the one-and-only Klaus Kinsky in the starring role. I think "Woyzeck" is the *perfect* vehicle for some "Black Rider" style Tom Waits hijinks! Oh, and the "medical experiments" don't really drive him mad -- they are more humiliating. Wozzeck/Woyzeck as a character is quite deranged enough, suffering from apocalyptic hallucinations and existential dread. And his "wife" is a prostitute of sorts, more of a live-in girlfriend than a wife. Sort of the same relationship I have with Julia Roberts. - --Quail PS: I have always wanted to own two dogs, named Wozzeck and Lulu. - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.TheModernWord.com "All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event -- in the living act, the undoubted deed -- there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall?" --Herman Melville, "Moby Dick" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:39:10 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Ghostships >>> Does anyone know of other poems, songs(non Robyn) with ghostship lyrics? My favorite Jethro Tull's album, "Stormwatch," has a very ghostshippy feel.... http://remus.rutgers.edu/JethroTull/Albums/Stormwatch-lyrics.html Especially, of course, "Flying Dutchman" -- Old lady with a barrow; life near ending Standing by the harbour wall; warm wishes sending children on the cold sea swell --- not fishers of men --- gone to chase away the last herring: come empty home again. So come all you lovers of the good life on your supermarket run --- Set a sail of your own devising and be there when the Dutchman comes. Wee girl in a straw hat: from far east warring Sad cargo of an old ship: young bodies whoring Slow ocean hobo --- ports closed to her crew No hope of immigration --- keep on passing through. So come all you lovers of the good life your children playing in the sun --- set a sympathetic flag a-flying and be there when the Dutchman comes. Death grinning like a scarecrow --- Flying Dutchman Seagull pilots flown from nowhere --- try and touch one as she slips in on the full tide and the harbour-master yells All hands vanished with the captain --- no one left, the tale to tell. So come all you lovers of the good life Look around you, can you see? Staring ghostly in the mirror --- it's the Dutchman you will be ..floating slowly out to sea in a misty misery. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 09:51:38 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: mo' nanowrimo What people are saying so far, about the writing flowing well without the restraints of editing and consistency, is happening for me too. It's allowing me to get all sorts of interesting things out of my head without worrying about what's come before. I realize that even after this is finished I can always go back and edit to my heart's content, fix anything that needs fixing. Previously I avoided editing like the plague, trying so hard to get it right the first time. I haven't offered much input on the Arthurian legends reading list because, frankly, I was kind of sick of it all by the end of the course I took and can think of very little I liked enough to want to return to. I do second the de Troyes recommendation, though. > From: "Natalie Jane" > > Avoid "The Mists of Avalon" unless you want a good laugh. Ha! That was one of the last items on our reading list. I read the first two pages and never got any further. Nice to know my instincts were correct. > From: Ken Ostrander ['twas me] >> I just joined the ranks of the unemployed today, along with a large >> chunk of the company I worked for. (This is either going to be very >> good for my NaNoWriMoNo or very bad.) > > more time to write; but perhaps no internet access without a job? No, fortunately things are not that dire yet. The bills are paid for this month; it's just that toward the end of the month I may be on the move, which will make things considerably more difficult. The best that can happen now is that I get another job in the Bay Area, go month-to-month in my current apartment, and spend next month moving somewhere else. We'll see how it goes. In the meantime I find myself only a day behind, and I'll be able to catch up easily as soon as I get my portfolio in order. - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 14:34:50 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: return of the table mesa True title that I dealt with personally in the 1980s: Administrative Assistant to the Assistant Administrator of the General Assistants Bureau of the General Services Administration - --- Will have to spend some time w/ my 1st Hoodoo Gurus tape to figure out words to "Another Ghost Ship" for Kay. Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:22:32 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: Pink Floyd Arnold Layne on BBC 2 (fwd) does anyone get BBC2? and if so could you record this? sounds interesting! Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:39:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Arnold Layne For UK Echosians you can see Floyd from '67 (or 68?) on Top Of The Pops 2 on wednesday 7th nov (tomorrow) at 6pm playing AL. I think they're the second song on the show. Regards, Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 16:23:56 -0500 From: "Larry O'Brien" Subject: RE: Pink Floyd Arnold Layne on BBC 2 (fwd) VH1 Classic just had a Pink Floyd weekend. They had a lot of footage from the 24 Hour Technicolor Dream, which was Syd's final performance. They also played the Arnold Layne video. Lots of footage from the UFO days. I'd like to get my hands on some of that! - -----Original Message----- From: bayard [mailto:bayard@bitmine.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 4:23 PM To: I Can't Believe it's a Listserv! Subject: Pink Floyd Arnold Layne on BBC 2 (fwd) does anyone get BBC2? and if so could you record this? sounds interesting! Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:39:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Arnold Layne For UK Echosians you can see Floyd from '67 (or 68?) on Top Of The Pops 2 on wednesday 7th nov (tomorrow) at 6pm playing AL. I think they're the second song on the show. Regards, Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 16:39:24 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Pink Floyd Arnold Layne on BBC 2 (fwd) I caught a lot of that as well on VH1 on Saturday. It was great seeing Syd wave his arms durring Astronomy Domine. The footage from the 24 Hour Technicolor Dream was also impressive. A DVD of Syd era Floyd would be high on my wish list. Michael B. - -----Original Message----- From: Larry O'Brien [mailto:LObrien@ARCweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 4:24 PM To: bayard; I Can't Believe it's a Listserv! Subject: RE: Pink Floyd Arnold Layne on BBC 2 (fwd) VH1 Classic just had a Pink Floyd weekend. They had a lot of footage from the 24 Hour Technicolor Dream, which was Syd's final performance. They also played the Arnold Layne video. Lots of footage from the UFO days. I'd like to get my hands on some of that! - -----Original Message----- From: bayard [mailto:bayard@bitmine.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 4:23 PM To: I Can't Believe it's a Listserv! Subject: Pink Floyd Arnold Layne on BBC 2 (fwd) does anyone get BBC2? and if so could you record this? sounds interesting! Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:39:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Arnold Layne For UK Echosians you can see Floyd from '67 (or 68?) on Top Of The Pops 2 on wednesday 7th nov (tomorrow) at 6pm playing AL. I think they're the second song on the show. Regards, Rob. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 16:54:06 -0500 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: RE: Pink Floyd Arnold Layne on BBC 2 (fwd) Speaking of video of Syd-era Floyd, how is "Pink Floyd: London 1966-67"? see http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000001194/qid=1005083202/sr=1-5/ref= sr_1_14_5/103-0511221-9507869 Of course, it isn't on DVD, which isn't surprising -- I don't know if its a rights issue or an outshoot of the Waters v. Gilmour feud, but Floyd material just hasn't been released on DVD (except The Wall, of course). C'mon, I want my Pompeii DVD! - -----Original Message----- From: Bachman, Michael [mailto:Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 4:39 PM To: 'Larry O'Brien'; bayard; I Can't Believe it's a Listserv! Subject: RE: Pink Floyd Arnold Layne on BBC 2 (fwd) I caught a lot of that as well on VH1 on Saturday. It was great seeing Syd wave his arms durring Astronomy Domine. The footage from the 24 Hour Technicolor Dream was also impressive. A DVD of Syd era Floyd would be high on my wish list. Michael B. - -----Original Message----- From: Larry O'Brien [mailto:LObrien@ARCweb.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 4:24 PM To: bayard; I Can't Believe it's a Listserv! Subject: RE: Pink Floyd Arnold Layne on BBC 2 (fwd) VH1 Classic just had a Pink Floyd weekend. They had a lot of footage from the 24 Hour Technicolor Dream, which was Syd's final performance. They also played the Arnold Layne video. Lots of footage from the UFO days. I'd like to get my hands on some of that! - -----Original Message----- From: bayard [mailto:bayard@bitmine.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 4:23 PM To: I Can't Believe it's a Listserv! Subject: Pink Floyd Arnold Layne on BBC 2 (fwd) does anyone get BBC2? and if so could you record this? sounds interesting! Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:39:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Arnold Layne For UK Echosians you can see Floyd from '67 (or 68?) on Top Of The Pops 2 on wednesday 7th nov (tomorrow) at 6pm playing AL. I think they're the second song on the show. Regards, Rob. ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 14:52:20 -0800 (PST) From: bayard Subject: Re: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork > I know I should I know what it is, but can anyone please help with Largo disk > 2, track 6? Sounds like a Dylan cover, but I'm at a loss for the title. "it takes a lot to laugh, it takes a train to cry"... the setlist can be found here: http://www.jh3.com/robyn/base/gig.asp?chubb=1070 > Ps. further on that note, the UM website's page for Cafe Largo isn't listed on > the main "tour" page; go through the LA tour diary or straight to > http://www.underwatermoonlight.com/diary/largo.html and there's a couple of > nice pics there to use. like the one of jon brion's girlfriend! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 17:55:06 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork >From: bayard > > http://www.underwatermoonlight.com/diary/largo.html and there's a couple >of > > nice pics there to use. > >like the one of jon brion's girlfriend! She was a regular on Larry Sanders and Mr. Show amongst other shows and movies. Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:56:28 -0500 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: RE: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork >> Ps. further on that note, the UM website's page for Cafe Largo isn't listed on >> the main "tour" page; go through the LA tour diary or straight to >> http://www.underwatermoonlight.com/diary/largo.html and there's a couple of >> nice pics there to use. >like the one of jon brion's girlfriend! That, of course, would be the lovely and talented Mary-Lynn Rajskub -- better known to HBO Comedy fans as "Mary Lou" from The Larry Sanders show and various characters on "Mr. Show With Bob & David." According to ImdB, Ms. Rajskub will also be appearing in the next Paul Thomas "Boogie Nights" Anderson film. ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 15:27:20 -0800 (PST) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: NaNoWriMo writing! All this talk of writing a novel is making my typing fingers itch. Kay, Susan, Gene and anyone else who is working on this: what do you plan to do with your 50,000 word novels when you're done? Ugh! It's all I can do to keep up with my journal writing. I'm so behind. Spalding Gray wrote daily in a journal for 5 years straight to teach himself writing discipline. I am in awe of this man. Have any Fegs done this? Curiously, Carole ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 16:23:45 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork >>From: bayard >>> http://www.underwatermoonlight.com/diary/largo.html and there's a couple of >>> nice pics there to use. >> >>like the one of jon brion's girlfriend! > >She was a regular on Larry Sanders and Mr. Show And Hee Haw too, I'm guessing? ;P Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 16:48:05 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork on 11/6/01 3:23 PM, Eb at elbroome@earthlink.net wrote: >>> From: bayard >>>> http://www.underwatermoonlight.com/diary/largo.html and there's a couple >>>> of >>>> nice pics there to use. >>> >>> like the one of jon brion's girlfriend! >> >> She was a regular on Larry Sanders and Mr. Show > > And Hee Haw too, I'm guessing? ;P Note: The hair is not the only thing that's fake in that picture. I suspect it's for the act. She was real funny on Mr. Show, from what I remember. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 19:49:54 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork/Six Degrees of Mary- Lynn >From: Eb >>> >>She was a regular on Larry Sanders and Mr. Show > >And Hee Haw too, I'm guessing? ;P > >Eb LOL, no but she was on Just Shoot Me last week as was Tiffany Amber Thiessan who is engaged to a gut I went to high school with. Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:06:40 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork/Six Degrees of Mary- Lynn Lang: > Tiffany Amber Thiessan is engaged to a gut I went to high school with. Well, I already posted a one-liner today, so someone else will have to tackle this one. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 20:18:55 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork/Six Degrees of Mary- Lynn >From: Eb > >Lang: >> Tiffany Amber Thiessan is engaged to a gut I went to high school with. > >Well, I already posted a one-liner today, so someone else will have >to tackle this one. > >Eb And they fit together like Yin and Yang. And I have alot of guts! Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 18:04:04 -0800 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Re: How's your NaNoWriMo ghosting On Mon, 05 Nov 2001 14:47:47 Redtailed Hawk wrote: >play, so the characters are becoming more than just parts. >Love that. Love when what youre writing suprises you. That's really interesting that you started out by modelling the characters. I wrote a bit of a generic outline the first day, like "A is 35 years old" kind of thing. They've been kind of shaping themselves as I go, really. I have to say, I never really intended one of the major characters to be a germphobic software tycoon. He just sort of decided to do that. >a bit. To neaten details if stuff changes. Also I can not stop myself >from cutting extra words or shortening awkward sentences. Idiot! I can't help but do this. And the thing is it really defeats one of the key reasons I signed up for this, which was to force myself not to fuss, basically. >Im trying to do 2,000 words a day but its tough. That's my goal too. Cool. Course I'm behind because yesterday and Sunday were the only days I actually accomplished it. Does anyone else feel like 50,000 isn't actually going to be the end? I mean, at 8,000 words two main characters had only just met the other one. The real "story" part of my story is only just now beginning. At this rate, 50,000 is starting to seem like more of a convenient stopping point. >And congrads on the newspaper article/interview. Post a link to it >if there is one--otherwise, can you post the text? I'd like to see it too. >fart jokes;-). I try to think of Jane Austen, scribbling in the drawing room >as the family talked but it dosnt hep much. Oh that's hilarious, because I keep reminding myself of some vaguely remembered story about Harriet Beecher Stowe writing "Uncle Tom's Cabin" by candlelight every night after her family went to bed. loveonya, susan P.S. Kay, I can't keep up with the main WriMo board at all anymore, did you guys actually get an occult writers thing organized? Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 18:05:31 -0800 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: daisy bomb All day long on NPR they keep talking about how the US military is going to start useing "daisy bombs" in Afghanistan. These are pretty sinsiter - - they go off above ground and expolde outward and are for killing people. It sounds like shooting shrapnel. Did Robyn know of these prior to Star for bram? Coincidence? eleanore ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 18:10:04 -0800 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Daisy Bomb Heard something on the news today about a powerful bomb we've got which is nicknamed "Daisy Cutter." I guess we used 'em in the Gulf War as well. The thing is so powerful it's equipped with a parachute to allow the aircraft that drops it enough time to get safely out of it's destructive path. I wonder if this thing was in any way inspiration for "Daisy Bomb", which I've always thought was a ridiculous title for a song. - -rUss Finally got my turntable fixed today after a good four or five months of bustification. np: The Bible Of Bop. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:26:52 -0800 (PST) From: FS Thomas Subject: Re: Largo Setlist Help + Artwork/Six Degrees of Mary- Lynn Lang: >> Tiffany Amber Thiessan is engaged to a gut I went to high school with. Eb: >Well, I already posted a one-liner today, so someone else will have >to tackle this one. Stop! I don't have the stomach for it. Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 21:55:50 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Daisy Bomb On Tuesday, November 6, 2001, at 08:10 PM, Russ Reynolds wrote: > Heard something on the news today about a powerful bomb we've got which > is > nicknamed "Daisy Cutter." I guess we used 'em in the Gulf War as > well. > The thing is so powerful it's equipped with a parachute to allow the > aircraft that drops it enough time to get safely out of it's destructive > path. I wonder if this thing was in any way inspiration for "Daisy > Bomb", > which I've always thought was a ridiculous title for a song. Daisy good, Bomb bad. The thing has a parachute because it weighs 7.5 tons (US) and has a mechanical trigger mechanism on the bottom that sets it off three feet above the ground. It's designed to kill everything in a circle 68/100 of a mile across. - - Steve __________ At the same time he was selling U.S. secrets to the Soviet Union, former FBI special agent Robert Philip Hanssen was a key supervisor in a 1980s domestic-spying program questioning the loyalty of American citizens and monitoring their activities, newly obtained FBI documents show. - Dann & Kennedy, L.A. 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