From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #418 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, November 3 2001 Volume 10 : Number 418 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: How's your NaNoWriMo? ["victorian squid" ] Re: ralph, joe [Eb ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #417 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Rattle and Cheep [Capuchin ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #417 ["Maximilian Lang" ] Caffeine in Wonderland ["Redtailed Hawk" ] good films about film-making & c. [dmw ] Largo or Seattle show [Mike Swedene ] Reading List (no RH%) [Mike Swedene ] arthur, arthur [dmw ] Re: How's your NaNoWriMo? [Capuchin ] memes ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] films about filmmakers ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] in the heart of saturday afternoon... [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 15:58:30 -0800 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Re: How's your NaNoWriMo? On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:52:54 Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: >I wrote 4,018 words on my first day. Showoff. When I logged in to enter my wordcount last night I was at 954 and I haven't done any writing today yet. The hardest part was jumping in. After about half an hour it was starting to flow pretty well, at least, I'm really hearing the two main characters. Definitely looking forward to full-steaming ahead this weekend. Did you know they were hacked last night? They had to take the wordcount page down, dunno if it's back up yet. Bah. Razzafraggin script kiddies. Roaches of the net I tell you. Altho admittedly the site shouldn't have been as open as it was and probably isn't anymore ;). >are flowing well. I've even made a few friends via Yahoo Messenger, >too -- it's quite a nice and lively crowd. There's a separate mailing list for Oregon nanos. A bunch of us are meeting up for coffee tomorrow afternoon. loveonya, susan Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 16:17:55 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: ralph, joe Eddie "Sanctions equal murder, and how dare you call me reductionist?" Tews forwarded 15K of text, rather than the corresponding weblinks: Well, that certainly ought to speed up reception of the next list digest. >[according to scott ritter, saddam kills about 1,800 people per >year, while the u.s.-led sanctions kill 5,000 per month --et] Wouldn't it be amazing if Eddie posted something *without* reiterating his "5000 per month in Iraq" mantra? Such are the ways of the propagandist... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 17:33:15 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #417 >The goal of the war on terrorism is, as President Bush has said eloquently... Bush... eloquently... Bush... eloquently... nah - you lost me there I'm afraid. James ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 23:26:18 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Rattle and Cheep On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Eb wrote: > Sounds like a great show. I'm not quite a U2 fan, but I'd happily go > see them if a ticket fell into my lap. Unfortunately, U2's popularity > insures that their tickets don't really fall into ANYONE'S laps. :) On the POPMart tour, the company I was working for landed about sixty swag tickets from various locations. So few people expressed any prior interest (around that place, if you saw an upcoming show in the press, you just had to ask and SOMEBODY had free tickets they weren't using) that somebody just rented a tour bus and sent out an email that said "If you're downstairs and on the bus in the next fifteen minutes, you can go to the U2 show at Autzen Stadium in Eugene." I went ahead and joined the gang. It was a fun ride and the show was OK, too. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 07:04:11 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #417 >From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) >> >The goal of the war on terrorism is, as President Bush has said >>eloquently... > >Bush... eloquently... Bush... eloquently... > >nah - you lost me there I'm afraid. > >James You should (well, you really shouldn't) hear his weekly radio address. He sounds like he has no idea what he is reading. He just reads the words in a fast moving monotone like he can't do it fast enough. In other words it sounds like one long run on sentance. Awake way too early, Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 14:33:14 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: Caffeine in Wonderland Eb: >For years, I've been curious about a supposedly 8 1/2-esque Paul Mazursky/Donald Sutherland film called "Alex in Wonderland"...the >damn thing seems to be totally out of circulation. Any of you old-timers seen it? Ahhh yes, sonny. Or rather I remember being excited about going to see it. I have vague memories of dinner before, vaguer ones of walking to the theater but none at all of actually seeing it. But I do rememember afterwards saying I was disappointed. Thanks for mentioning 8 1/2 and Day for Night. - ----------------------- Mike and James: Love the idea of Mountain Dew and Saphire Bombay gin. Have never before - -tried- Mountain Dew but for this I might make a sacrifice. Believe it or not, I have never drunk coffee, finding diet coke and tea sufficient. However, I love Haagan Dass Baileys ice-cream, so Irish coffee does sound tempting. I guess it dosnt work as well with tea? Kay, whose earlier life resembled Matt Sewell's present one:-)but now would prefer her daughter didnt smell anything too -unusual- around the house. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 10:20:10 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: good films about film-making & c. we're not leaving out _Sunset Boulevard_, are we? bloodsuckers: guiltiest 'literary' (ha!) pleasure of the summer was surely mick farren (yes, the _vampires stole my lunch money_ guy, kind of a jim carroll wannabe)'s _darklost_ a not-quite-as-trashy-as-it-thinks-it-is, not-as-kinky-as-it-wants-to-be standard issue vamp fantasy vastly enlivened by (unintentionally?) hilarious snappy dialog like: "What's the last thing you remember?" Marcus didn't hesitate. "The one sphere falling to the table." "And then?" "And then you hit the small Cthulhu with your shoe." Goofy, goofy, goofy. It made me grin. Crypto RH content: monsieur the Hitchcock gets a passing mention three hunnert or so pages into Bill Flanagan's _A & R_, which i thought was a fun, if seriously flawed, read, but I wonder if anyone outside the periphery of the music industry could enjoy it. THere's been a real drought of fictional Eb references of late, though. - -- d. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 10:16:18 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Largo or Seattle show Hi everyone. I was part of the aforementioned shows tree thingie, and I have a few extra copies if anyone who did not get a chance to sign up for it. If anyone else is interested you can email me off list. Mike-I have disk 2 of the knitting fac show and will mail it out on monday. have a great weekend! Herbie np- "Strung Out On OK Computer" String Quartet Tribute To Radiohead "AIRBAG" Album can be found here (in MP3): http://www.struggleburger.com/strings/ Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 10:18:09 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Reading List (no RH%) Anyone know of any good books geared towards African American youths? any age group. I am writing an article to be published about possible reading lists for this particular group, since there is really not that much out there specifically written for that particular audience. Herbie Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:25:24 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: arthur, arthur ok, so imagine that there was a kid who was born somewhere in america in the latter half of the twentieth century who grew up and came of age and was familiar with arthurian legend only from the rather dry pages of bullfinch's, some long-forgot dumbed-down bowlderized kiddy version and, of course, a host of referential works. suppose further that recent discussion on a computer mailing list devoted to some singer-songwriter type excited a modicum of curiosity in this chap about reading text that hewed closer to the source material. what do you reckon the consensus suggestion of the list would be? that the bloke take up mallory? t.h.white? mary stewart? or that he avoid the mess entire? hypotheticall yours, d. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 11:13:34 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: How's your NaNoWriMo? On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, victorian squid wrote: > When I logged in to enter my wordcount last night [snip] > Did you know they were hacked last night? Exactly what service are these people providing via that website? Isn't it enough to just sit and write every day? Are they collecting anything more than wordcount? J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 11:47:55 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: memes > From: "Voodoo Ergonomics" > > meanwhile, make of these what you will: > > , This one, at least, has shown up on every mailing list I read, and I had already seen it before that happened. This is what I'm talking about when I say that the list is hardly the only channel through which we are getting our political news and commentary. And as I have yet to see you respond to anyone's differing political opinions on this list with anything less than disagreement (and usually more), I'm not sure exactly why it is you want to hear what other fegs think. I'm not saying your opinions are incorrect (much of the time I rather uneasily suspect the opposite), simply that they don't seem likely to change through discussion, as Jason suggested. > From: Eb > > Speaking of "soft drinks," I'm suddenly aware of the accelerating presence > of Red Bull in the world. What IS this stuff? Is it carbonated? What color > is it? What does it taste like? It tastes like pure corn syrup to me, perhaps mixed with formaldehyde. It's beyond oversweet and I can't imagine why any human being with any feeling left in their tongue would put it in their mouth more than once. > From: Capuchin > I encountered "buttered popcorn" flavored Jelly Belly jellybeans in my > youth and learned then to be more careful. Oh, I like the popcorn ones myself. Especially mixed with blueberry. - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 11:56:47 -0800 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: films about filmmakers > From: John McIntyre > > You should see "Shadow Of The Vampire". Not only is it a wonderful film > about > a film-maker, it also has a different take on vampires than the romance novels > you cited. I've seen it and I liked it, but I don't know that I found it all that revelatory. I kind of didn't believe Murnau was that obsessive, and it certainly didn't tell me anything. Anyway, no one's saying there aren't good examples -- just that it seems like a pretty lame and overworked subject. It would be nice to see creators get out of their navels. > From: "Redtailed Hawk" > Drew-- Condolances. Do you qualify for unemployment insurance? Youll have > time to write now. Thanks, and I think so. I'm probably going to try to find out on Monday. Not that it will help much. But fortunately I am not wholly without a safety net. > From: Carole Reichstein > > ...and in turn, when new San Franciscans tire of the high rent/high > unemployment rate, they all move to Portland. It's on the list. > From: "Natalie Jane" > > My point is that the type of vampire lit. that I'm complaining about is just > plain old wish-fulfillment. "Oooh, I wish I could be a rich and powerful > immortal being who's always getting laid!" I can live with that. :) > There's nothing wrong with wish-fulfillment per se, it just gets boring > after a while. True. > We gotta keep "Funk Pop a Roll" too, of course (says the ever-predictable > XTC fan). It's yours! > Re. C.S. Lewis, I just finished "Perelandra." [...] > I got a little sick of the protagonist having experiences > which simply can't be described because they're so wonderful. Oooh...I always have the opposite problem with Lovecraft. - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:30:53 -0700 From: Eb Subject: in the heart of saturday afternoon... From http://www.livedaily.com Tom Waits to release two albums simultaneously in April NOV. 1, 8:31 P.M. ET Two new Tom Waits albums--titled "Alice" and "Red Drum"--will be released simultaneously on April 9 by Anti/Epitaph Records. Both were written and produced by Waits and Kathleen Brennan, his wife and frequent collaborator. According to a press release issued by the label, Waits and Brennan are currently in the studio, putting the finishing touches on the albums. "Alice" and "Red Drum" are described by the label as "startlingly different in landscape, sound, emotion and composition," but the instrumentation for each is mostly acoustic. The songs of "Red Drum" were inspired by the nearly 200-year-old Georg Buchner play "Woyzeck," the tale of a poor soldier driven mad by medical experiments and an unfaithful wife. "Alice" is described as "haunting opiate songs played by piano, bass sax, Stroh violin, cello and vibes." ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #418 ********************************