From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #416 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, November 2 2001 Volume 10 : Number 416 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [fegbooks] Captain Bluebear [Sebastian Hagedorn ] RE: an old friend ["Timothy Reed" ] RE: an old friend [Christopher Gross ] Re: your mail [gSs ] Re: an old friend ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] How's your NaNoWriMo? ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] RE: an old friend [The Great Quail ] Re: your mail ["matt sewell" ] Ghostship ["Redtailed Hawk" ] pizza pizza! ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Ghostship ["Mike Wells" ] Re: Ghostship [lj lindhurst ] Re: Ghosthead [gSs ] Re: Ghosthead [gSs ] Re: MJ [Basketball content 100%] [Eleanore Adams ] Red Bull [Eleanore Adams ] Re: Ghostship [Michael R Godwin ] San Francisco exodus [Carole Reichstein ] The vampire sensuously sank his teeth into Scott Spillane's neck ["Natali] LOTR stuff [steve ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 13:24:03 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: [fegbooks] Captain Bluebear - -- "Stewart C. Russell" is rumored to have mumbled on Donnerstag, 1. November 2001 11:39 Uhr +0000 regarding [fegbooks] Captain Bluebear: > add Walter Moers's "The 13= Lives of Captain Bluebear" to the list. > Great illos and a wild read. Wow, I had no idea Kdpt'n Blaubart had gone abroad... Actually I haven't yet read the novel, although everyone tells me it's great, but he and his nephews and nieces have been a cult phenomenon on the cult TV program "Die Sendung mit der Maus" for years. It's supposedly for kids, but apparently there are just as many adults who watch the show religiously. The great thing about Walter Moers, the author/inventor, is that he also did the "Little Asshole" series, the most irreverent kind of book you're likely to encounter. The one that got the most publicity was titled "It's an asshole, Mary!", a new take on the birth of Jesus. Jesus is, you guessed it, a little asshole... highly recommended, but I doubt that it's been translated. Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ Winter is coming. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 08:17:33 -0500 From: John McIntyre Subject: Re: The vampire sensuously sank his teeth into Julian Koster's neck Natalie Jane wrote: > Yes! Yes! And no more goddamn films about film-makers! "Living in > Oblivion" is the only movie about a guy making a movie that I'll ever need. > (And that's only because it's got Steve Buscemi and the angry dwarf's > brilliant monologue.) You should see "Shadow Of The Vampire". Not only is it a wonderful film about a film-maker, it also has a different take on vampires than the romance novels you cited. "The Stunt Man" with Peter O'Toole is another good movie about a film-maker. For a different take on vampires, try Kat Shea Ruben's "Dance Of The Damned". To see someone totally miss the point, try the remake of "Dance Of The Damned" entitled "To Sleep With A Vampire". John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:01:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Barbara Reece Subject: Re: The vampire sensuously sank his teeth into Julian Koster's neck On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Natalie Jane wrote: > There's a guy in > Portland who's having 300+ artists each create a work of art on a 4" x 4" > square, and the squares will all be displayed together. I'm thinking of > making a diorama out of tinfoil, but need to work out the logistics. Does > anyone know where I could get a very small, battery-operated light? Like > the kind that cyclists use, but smaller. Does such a thing exist? i'm very interested - how does one get involved in something like this? bringing together lots of artists like that - what a great idea. it sounds like a lot of fun and i have a million ideas (i'm a silversmith). can you elucidate, or share a URL for this? tia, Eclipse - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Eclipse | eclipse@best.com If this is not what you expected, please alter your expectations. "i guess one person can make a difference - but most of the time, they probably shouldn't." - Marge Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:08:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Barbara Reece Subject: Re: bread bread, badger badger > I think the funniest example is in beautiful Boulder, Colorado. There's a > main road there called "Table Mesa". oddly enough, there's one of these on I-17 north of Phoenix, AZ as well. we used to go riding up there all the time. never could get over the goofiness of the name. though i suppose i should take into account that this is near the town of Carefree, famous for such street names as easy st., ho and hum rds., wrong way rd., and (my favorite) a paved streed known as dirt rd. merrily, Eclipse - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Eclipse | eclipse@best.com If this is not what you expected, please alter your expectations. "i guess one person can make a difference - but most of the time, they probably shouldn't." - Marge Simpson On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Tom Clark wrote: > on 11/1/01 8:43 AM, Christopher Gross at chrisg@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu wrote: > > > On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, The Great Quail wrote: > > > >>> "pleonasm" is the word for the more general sin of using extra words; i > >>> don't know if there's a name for the special case where you're literally > >>> saying the same thing twice ("naan bread", "ATM machine", etc.) > >> > >> My favorite: > >> > >> "The Christ UCC Church," about a stone's throw from where I grew up.... > > > > Here at the library, you're always hearing people refer to "ISSN > > numbers" and "ISBN numbers." > > > Buenos Tardes, > -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:14:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Barbara Reece Subject: Re: bread bread, badger badger > No, it's that secret recruiting campaign they're running. I've just lost 3 > DC friends & two pugs to the SF area. Damn them for stealing our people! i can't imagine what they're recruiting for that there aren't enough eager people already here to fill! i mean, what will these transplants do for a living, since there aren't any jobs to be had? ;) E "bitter? i'm not BITTER" clipse - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Eclipse | eclipse@best.com If this is not what you expected, please alter your expectations. "i guess one person can make a difference - but most of the time, they probably shouldn't." - Marge Simpson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 13:24:11 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: [fegbooks] Captain Bluebear Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > Wow, I had no idea Kaept'n Blaubart had gone abroad... don't think the bear has hit the US, but I'm sure we'll all be told how great he is once he does. He's gone from hardback to paperback very quickly -- a good sign. > Actually I haven't > yet read the novel, although everyone tells me it's great they're right. It's like the Gormenghast trilogy played for yuks. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 13:27:22 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: an old friend Timothy Reed wrote: > > When I'm there, I buy a case of stuff called Regain, whose slogan is 'can you go > 24 hours?' and has a commercial where an army of salary man puppets kick some > ass on an airplane. Isn't that the ad where they all chorus "Businessman! Businessman! Japanee-ees(u) Businessman!"? Very silly. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:34:38 -0500 From: "Timothy Reed" Subject: RE: an old friend That's the one. The local pharmacy thought they had a good customer in me and gave me two stickers sheets with characters from the ad. Still have 'em - that's one of my favorite souvenirs. Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: stewart@ref.collins.co.uk [mailto:stewart@ref.collins.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 8:27 AM > To: Timothy Reed > Cc: The Gelatine Prince from the 2364th Dimension > Subject: Re: an old friend > > > Timothy Reed wrote: > > > > When I'm there, I buy a case of stuff called Regain, whose slogan > is 'can you go > > 24 hours?' and has a commercial where an army of salary man puppets > kick some > > ass on an airplane. > > Isn't that the ad where they all chorus "Businessman! Businessman! > Japanee-ees(u) Businessman!"? Very silly. > > Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 09:35:29 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: RE: an old friend On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Timothy Reed wrote: > This reminds me of Japanese 'genki' drinks you can buy in drug stores there. > Little bottles with a shot of this nasty medicinal concoction of caffeine, > nicotine, vitamins and sometimes ginseng and royal jelly. It's a pack of smokes > and 5 cups of coffee in a bottle. It tastes a like tasty cough medicine but > with a distinct ashtray aftertaste. Hey, that sounds like that "Whisbih" stuff Jon Fetter brought back from Taiwan. Maybe it's a recipe popular throughout East Asia. What do you think, Jon, do the ingredients sound the same? That Taiwanese centipede liquor was good too. The best part is, of course, eating the centipede. I have photos of the Quail "doing a segment," as we say. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:45:29 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: your mail On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, matt sewell wrote: > Does poof mean something different in American? Otherwise I'm not sure > what you're saying... also, does socialism mean something different in > America... sounds like y'all think it's a bad thing... Apparently, well yes you are Welsh and absolutely. And here I am speaking for all of us, just like you. > > Presumably you reach for your shotgun so you can bump off the poor before > they get their greedy little hands on your tax dollars..? Man, you got all that from my note? You sure can read well. But in reply, absolutely. Here again I am speaking for all of us when I say this. That is just how we are. Pity the poor? Yeah right. Push the poor towards the edge as that makes them easier to hit. What about the women and children? Well, you just don't lead'em as much. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:50:00 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: an old friend >From: Eb >Subject: Re: an old friend > >>And how did you know he was an "indie kid"? Did he have "No Use For A Name" >>tattooed on his forehead? ;) > >He was a girl, actually. "Have you seen Jackie? He's a strange, strange, strange, little girl. Make up on his face and his hair in curls..." I once had some musk-flavored chewing gum from Australia, and it was really quite disgusting. Here in San Antonio, TX, USA there are Mexican street vendors who sell lime and chili flavored ice pops, and I'm told they're also really quite disgusting. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:52:54 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: How's your NaNoWriMo? I wrote 4,018 words on my first day. I'm all fired up and the words are flowing well. I've even made a few friends via Yahoo Messenger, too -- it's quite a nice and lively crowd. Anybody else writing? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:00:54 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: RE: an old friend Chris writes, >Hey, that sounds like that "Whisbih" stuff Jon Fetter brought back from >Taiwan. Oh my GOD! Alchohol, ginseng, sugar, caffeine, *and* nicotine! I am not even sure how to *describe* a Whisbih high. The taste was somewhere between flat Dr. Pepper and sweetened ashes. >That Taiwanese centipede liquor was good too. The best part is, of >course, eating the centipede. I have photos of the Quail "doing a >segment," as we say. Is much as I would like to leave this stand as a joke, I must confess that it is true. We all cut up the centipede and selected music by which to do our "segment shot." I think I picked the Pogues; or maybe Laibach. Th every fact that I can't remember if it was the Pogues or Laibach is direct testimony to the power of the segment to cloud the minds of men. And Chris? It's more than photos; it's a whole *videotape!* - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 15:03:48 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: your mail Aha! You're Canadian, and I claim my five pounds! Or should I say our five pounds (as like you I am speaking for all of us... us being... everyone in the UK, or I spose everyone on the continent of America... no, everyone in the world - oh what the hell every sentient being in the universe - surely they can't hold opinions that different to my own... can they..?). Many apologies, although I don't really mind being called Welsh, or Scottish or Irish for that matter... all jolly nice countries filled with populations I'm glad to call my neighbours... The last bit of your mail, though... I'm afraid I lost the thread a little bit - I got the bit about making a whole email out of a throwaway comment about socialism and firearms, but thereafter things got a bit fuzzy. All that bit about the poor and edges and hitting... hmm... and then that bit about women & children and leading... eh? Yours in common latitudes, Matt "Maddw Swl" Sewell >From: gSs >Reply-To: gSs >To: car pot >Subject: Re: your mail >Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:45:29 -0500 (CDT) > >On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, matt sewell wrote: > > > Does poof mean something different in American? Otherwise I'm not sure > > what you're saying... also, does socialism mean something different in > > America... sounds like y'all think it's a bad thing... > >Apparently, well yes you are Welsh and absolutely. And here I am >speaking for all of us, just like you. > > > > > Presumably you reach for your shotgun so you can bump off the poor before > > they get their greedy little hands on your tax dollars..? > >Man, you got all that from my note? You sure can read well. But in reply, >absolutely. Here again I am speaking for all of us when I say this. That >is just how we are. Pity the poor? Yeah right. Push the poor towards the >edge as that makes them easier to hit. What about the women and children? > >Well, you just don't lead'em as much. > > >gSs - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 16:01:25 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: Ghostship Godwin: >Yup. But Shippey perceptively points out that although Providence (with a >capital P?) steps in at the end, it is only the efforts of >Frodo, Sam and >Gandalf which give providence the chance to operate at all. If Denethor, or >Galadriel, or even Elrond had the final say, my >impression is that they >would all have given up long before the Stair >of Kirith (sic) Ungol. Damn you God, why do you have to put everything so well! Yes , precisely. What is it you teach anyway? Whatever it is, youre far to good at it;-) - --------------- Nat--youre one of the best bad writers Ive ever read - --------------------- A ghost ship has appeared in my novel, along with a quote from the song. Anyone have any good bits bout ghost ships etc ... ? - ----------------------- Drew-- Condolances. Do you qualify for unemployment insurance? Youll have time to write now. - ------------------- What -is- the best combo of caffiene and alchahol? By that I mean-- what tastes bests, carries a ferocious punch and dosnt give too bad a hangover? - ------------------- Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 08:11:46 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: pizza pizza! Has anybody seen this film? >TRIBUTARY (Russ Forster, 2000, 70 min) is a tender, intimate exploration of >the forces driving a bizarre subculture of rock bands to imitate other rock >bands. Shot during a heyday of the tribute scene in the late 1990s, >TRIBUTARY follows 25 different tribute bands from New York, Detroit, >Chicago, Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and Olympia, WA, >and distills the essence of how those bands can turn homage into a cottage >industry while struggling to keep their own identities in the process. >Director RUSS FORSTER is best known for his award-winning feature-length >documentary about 8-track collectors, SO WRONG THEY'RE RIGHT (1995), and >this is his first major documentary project since. TRIBUTARY was shot >without a budget on Hi-8 video, and its low-fi look fits the low-fi tribute >band scene the video explores, but belies the 4 years of loving labor that >went into its creation. > >Some of the bands included in TRIBUTARY are: > >SABBRACADABRA (New York, NY) imitating BLACK SABBATH >ACES HIGH (Detroit, MI) imitating Ace Frehley from KISS >GIANT BUG VILLAGE (Portland, OR) imitating GUIDED BY VOICES >STICKY FINGERS (Los Angeles, CA) imitating THE ROLLING STONES >MONGOLOID (San Francisco, CA) imitating DEVO >FUTURISTIC DRAGON (Chicago, IL) imitating T. REX/MARC BOLAN >BRITISH STEEL (Portland, OR) imitating JUDAS PRIEST >CHERRY BOMB (Portland, OR) imitating THE RUNAWAYS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:34:08 -0600 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Re: Ghostship Kay enquired: > What -is- the best combo of caffiene and alchahol? By that I mean-- what > tastes bests, carries a ferocious punch and dosnt give too bad a hangover? Mountain Dew and Bombay Gin, by a flat mile. Hangover's not bad but the sickly-sweets can get you after awhile (the dreaded "Tom Collins" effect). Up it to Sapphire and go for broke(n). Michael who thinks good N/A beer is criminally overpriced ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:43:54 -0500 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Re: Ghostship >Kay enquired: >> What -is- the best combo of caffiene and alchahol? By that I mean-- what >> tastes bests, carries a ferocious punch and dosnt give too bad a hangover? > >Mountain Dew and Bombay Gin, by a flat mile. Hangover's not bad but the >sickly-sweets can get you after awhile (the dreaded "Tom Collins" effect). >Up it to Sapphire and go for broke(n). No, it's IRISH COFFEE! Now that's the BEST. Reminds me of a few years back when someone gave my folks a bottle of Bailey's. My non-drinking mom got in the habit putting it in her coffee in the morning. So this goes on for a few days, and my brother noticed that she was acting a little sleepy and slurring her words a bit around noontime. He finally figured it out--she was DRUNK! Now my mom is lots of things, but a drinker she has never been. So he asked her about it and it turns out that she didn't realize that Bailey's was alcoholic! She was using it like coffee-mate every morning, and couldn't figure out why she was getting so loopy. l "rotgut pear martinis" j - -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design http://www.w-rabbit.com NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * As long as the news go on, it will never get to the end. Thus news constitutes the announcement that it is not the end of the world." ---Kobo Abe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:48:07 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Ghosthead On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Redtailed Hawk wrote: > What -is- the best combo of caffiene and alchahol? By that I mean-- what > tastes bests, carries a ferocious punch and dosnt give too bad a hangover? Not sure about the caffiene mix, but it is blended whiskey or blended anything alcoholic for that matter and drinks that contain sugers and sweeteners, natural or circumstantial which are the main culprits for hangovers. Malts and ales are also normally avoided by me as is anyone with red chicken-pox type lesions a dry cough and a prayer book. Eating a high protein meal like eggs, sausage, toast etc.. along with plenty of water after you drink but before you hit the sack also helps to diminish the morning after blues. Oxygen from a tank is the best relief once the next morning has arrived. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:55:17 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Ghosthead On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, gSs wrote: > Oxygen from a tank is the best relief once the next morning has arrived. Oops, on reflection I believe the best relief would probably come from a good bump of speed, but of course I would not recommend that. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 09:00:47 -0800 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: MJ [Basketball content 100%] You know, you will be known as the coolest dad ever in a few years when he can brag to his friends about this night! e "Poole, R. Edward" wrote: > On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, James Dignan wrote: > > >>New NBA season, with MJ, and after that, LA!!! > > > >Michael Jackson AND Laurie Anderson! No wonder you're excited! > > But Glen was heard to complain: > > >I'm so sick of hearing about Michael Jordan. The only comeback that should > >receive this much press is Jesus Christ's. > > Hmmm, reminds me of "Christ Returns to NBA," from one of The Onion books > (but it doesn't appear to be online; too bad). > > As a DC resident (well, not really -- I work here and live in the suburbs) > and a long suffering Bullets/Wizards fan, I say "Pshaw" (which, if you knew > me, you'd know I never say lightly). It's nice to have some good news > around here -- plus I got to take my five-year-old to go see Jordan play, > which I'm really happy about. > > The aforementioned child, Max, was less impressed -- he told me he didn't > "need to go" see the Wizards because he had already seen the Mystics, our > WNBA franchise. My arguments about why Jordan was special -- and how Max > would be able to tell his children that he got to see Jordan play -- failed > to seal the deal. Finally, this exchange occurred: > > Me: "Plus, you'll get to stay up super-late -- we won't get home until 11 at > night!" > > Max: "Really? Can we get popcorn, too?" > > Me: "Sure." > > Max: "Alright! Can we go tonight?" > > We went to the (only) home preseason game, Jordan scored 41 (including his > first dunk of career 3.0), and -- more importantly -- we had popcorn AND > cotton candy. > > ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. > > To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com > > Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP > http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 09:19:50 -0800 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Red Bull I swear by red bull before finals! That stuff is tasty and is better than coffee to get you through a 3 hour exam. e Tom Clark wrote: > on 11/1/01 1:06 PM, Eb at ElBroome@earthlink.net wrote: > > > Speaking of "soft drinks," I'm suddenly aware of the accelerating presence > > of Red Bull in the world. What IS this stuff? Is it carbonated? What color > > is it? What does it taste like? > > > > I had a sip once. It was actually pretty good - not too sweet, kind of like > a mildly carbonated flavoured iced tea, almost. It's another one of these > beverages for people who need to feed a caffeine addiction but don't > necessarily drink coffee or soda/pop/Coke. > > > This might be a good place to mention that a few weeks ago, I made the > > mistake of sampling one of the worst-tasting things which has *ever* been > > in my mouth: a *popcorn*-flavored lollipop. (On sight, I thought it was > > going to be lemon or banana.) Just about ruined my appetite for the entire > > rest of the day. I guess that's what I get for accepting food from an > > unknown "indie kid." > > Yeah, I had a popcorn-flavoured jellybean once. I almost puked. > And how did you know he was an "indie kid"? Did he have "No Use For A Name" > tattooed on his forehead? ;) > > -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 17:28:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Ghostship On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Redtailed Hawk wrote: > What is it you teach anyway? Whatever it is, youre far to good at it;-) Today: Microeconomics and computing in economics (also Wed and Thur). Tuesdays: Quantitative methods. [Thinks: am I in the wrong job?] - - Mike "% change in quantity divided by % change in price" Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:03:06 -0800 (PST) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: San Francisco exodus Melissa wrote: No, it's that secret recruiting campaign they're running. I've just lost 3 DC friends & two pugs to the SF area. Damn them for stealing our people! >Last night I said goodbye to yet *another* DC friend who's moving out of >the area (to San Francisco this time). Tell me honestly, folks, is it >me? Should I bathe? > ..and in turn, when new San Franciscans tire of the high rent/high unemployment rate, they all move to Portland. Viv, it's terrible to hear about your poor kidneys. Sounds just ghastly. Please get well soon! And Quail...care to write a review about the U2 show in New York?? Carole, "walking out of the picture..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 10:46:52 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: The vampire sensuously sank his teeth into Scott Spillane's neck >Well, it stands to reason that a vampire could profit from murder, >and >Anne Rice has already given us the two extreme positions >regarding the >desirability of vampirism. And if they were all >violence and no sex I >doubt I would read many of them. My point is that the type of vampire lit. that I'm complaining about is just plain old wish-fulfillment. "Oooh, I wish I could be a rich and powerful immortal being who's always getting laid!" It's no different from romance novels ("I wish I could get it on with Fabio!") or rubbishy fantasy like Mercedes Lackey ("I wish I could have a magical telepathic horsey!"). There's nothing wrong with wish-fulfillment per se, it just gets boring after a while. I'd like to see a vampire novel where being a vampire is not necessarily wonderful and romantic and thrilling. (And personally, I have no desire whatsoever to be a vampire, so the wish-fulfillment aspect is lost on me.) >And "songs about the music industry." Though I do quite like >"Seymour >Stein." We gotta keep "Funk Pop a Roll" too, of course (says the ever-predictable XTC fan). I really hate songs by indie bands that namecheck other indie bands, thus dating the song instantly. The example that springs to mind is by the Gerbils (E6 band fronted by giant gnome Scott Spillane) - "Don't you know that Portastatic is my favorite band?" Re. the multi-artist project: >i'm very interested - how does one get involved in something like >this? I think this may be a Portland-only thing, as the artists are expected to hang their own work in the artist mosaic at the end of November. I don't have the info with me... maybe try charmbracelet.org? Thanks to everyone for the light suggestions. I'll go over to Wacky Willy's after work some time (as I'm in the area) and see what I can find. I'm thinking of either a jokey dinosaur diorama with a "sun," or, if I can get lots of very small lights, some sort of starry night scenario. Re. C.S. Lewis, I just finished "Perelandra." The planet (ostensibly Venus) is marvellously described for the most part and seems like a great place to live - though I got a little sick of the protagonist having experiences which simply can't be described because they're so wonderful. Unfortunately it all gets bogged down with Lewis's own beliefs as it goes along... and I highly question the method of opposing the devil by simply beating the crap out of him. n., now reading Philip Pullman as an antidote p.s. Re. kidneys and infections thereof, did you know that there are 75 MILES of tiny tubes inside each kidney?? Wow! p.p.s. Redundancy Department Dept.: "Ramen noodles"! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:51:05 -0600 From: steve Subject: LOTR stuff The Lord Of The Rings Official Movie Guide and The Fellowship Of The Rings Visual Companion are out. No real spoilers (like the story is a secret), but plenty of very nice pictures. - - Steve __________ The Bush/Nixon bond is a most peculiar union, given the immense class gap between the Man from Whittier and the would-be dynasty in Kennebunkport. And yet there's an important similarity between them after all. Despite the Bush clan's vast advantage, that crew is, oddly, just as thin-skinned and resentful as the Trickster. Like him, they never forget a slight, and always feel themselves impaired; and so-like Nixon-they tend to favor The Attack. - Mark Crispin Miller ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #416 ********************************