From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #410 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, October 29 2001 Volume 10 : Number 410 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: iPod Announced [Ken Weingold ] Christian Death MP3 problem? [Ken Weingold ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #409 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: iPod Announced [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: iPod Announced [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: iPod Announced [Capuchin ] Re: iPod Announced ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Yeah, those towel-heads had better stop whingeing ["Stewart C. Russel] Re: iPod Announced [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Language of Love [Daniel Robert Saunders ] Arthur, king of the Britons! ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: iPod Announced [Brian Cully ] Re: Christian Death MP3 problem? [Christopher Gross ] Wonderland ["Redtailed Hawk" ] whinge [dmw ] Syd Barrett Book @ Genesis ["lucifersam" ] Finally... [Tom Clark ] please mr. gravedigger -9 ["ross taylor" ] superglued a snowglobe to his nutsack ["Voodoo Ergonomics" ] Re: toonage [Eb ] Re: Finally... [Tom Clark ] Re: toonage [Tom Clark ] Re: toonage [Brian Cully ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 23:08:06 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: iPod Announced On Fri, Oct 26, 2001, Capuchin wrote: > > It sure do. Plus, there's a nice graphical version under the apple > > menu called "Force Quit", which I've had to use on Internet Explorer > > more than a few times. > > But since it ain't X, you probably don't have Viv's favorite: xkill. And thank goodness for that. I have absolutely had it with XFree86. I don't have the time anymore for scavenger hunts on simple things like changing the mouse speed. And not acceleration. Yes, you probably know the setting, Jeme, but once I found it it really pissed me off at how vaguely documented it was, plus no one I asked seemed to know about it. > xkill gives you a little skull and crossbones cursor that will annihilate > a window and its associated processes with a single click. That's very cool. And I am sure it can be ported to OS X no problem. I just saw tonight that Gaim was. I still cannot believe that I am sticking up for MacOS. There is probably no OS I hate more than MacOS 9 and older. But I am really trying to like OS X. Proper GUI, BSD base, all the software made for MacOS, plus most of what is made for unix. If I can just get used to the GUI, it will be a good thing. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 23:16:27 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Christian Death MP3 problem? Chris, what was the problem? I just tried ripping once track from Only Theater of Pain, Spiritual Cramp, and came out fine. I will rip the whole album at work tomorrow and see how it comes out. Btw, this is the Frontier Records CD release. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:10:35 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #409 >What does "whingeing" mean? And how is it pronounced? I have always >wondered.... grumbling in a very whiny sort of way. And whinge is pronounced like 'wind-jammer' without the 'ammer', to rhyme with cringe. James (trying to work out what a crind-jammer would be used for) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:28:05 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: iPod Announced - --On Sunday, October 28, 2001 22:55:32 -0500 Ken Weingold wrote: >> Of course, you SHOULD just be sending a hang-up (SIGHUP: `kill -HUP` or >> `kill -1`). > > Yeah, but that's just wishful thinking sometimes. :) Actually kill -HUP ist used most often as a signal to a process that its configuration has been changed. I wonder if there are *any* programs that terminate when they receive this signal!? Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ Winter is coming. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:36:53 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: iPod Announced - --On Sunday, October 28, 2001 23:08:06 -0500 Ken Weingold wrote: >> But since it ain't X, you probably don't have Viv's favorite: xkill. > > And thank goodness for that. I have absolutely had it with XFree86. > I don't have the time anymore for scavenger hunts on simple things > like changing the mouse speed. And not acceleration. Yes, you > probably know the setting, Jeme, but once I found it it really pissed > me off at how vaguely documented it was, plus no one I asked seemed to > know about it. Well, Aqua is most certainly superior in many ways, but the best part about Mac OS X is that you can have both! It's not yet perfect, but with XFree86 4.1.0 and a good window manager (I currently use OroborOSX, ) you can have Aqua windows and X11 windows intermingled any which way you like... That's great because I can forward my X11 connections from work via SSH. > I still cannot believe that I am sticking up for MacOS. There is > probably no OS I hate more than MacOS 9 and older. You've got to be kidding! But I dn't think debating this would lead anywhere ;-) Greetings, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ Winter is coming. [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 01:27:36 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: iPod Announced On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > --On Sunday, October 28, 2001 22:55:32 -0500 Ken Weingold > wrote: > > >> Of course, you SHOULD just be sending a hang-up (SIGHUP: `kill -HUP` or > >> `kill -1`). > > > > Yeah, but that's just wishful thinking sometimes. :) > > Actually kill -HUP ist used most often as a signal to a process that > its configuration has been changed. I wonder if there are *any* > programs that terminate when they receive this signal!? If your process is hung, a HUP is the first thing you should do to see if starts responding again. I think that's why Ken said it's just wishful thinking (that it'll see the hangup and come back from whatever crap it was doing to be unresponsive). If you want to terminate it, the nicest thing you can do is kill -TERM. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:38:43 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: iPod Announced Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > > I still cannot believe that I am sticking up for MacOS. There is > > probably no OS I hate more than MacOS 9 and older. > > You've got to be kidding! Anyone who has ever had to unpick macos crudbucket binary headers from e-mail attachments would be with Ken on this one... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:40:40 +0000 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Yeah, those towel-heads had better stop whingeing The Great Quail wrote: > > What does "whingeing" mean? And how is it pronounced? I have always > wondered.... James got the definition wrong, but got caught on the English shibboleth - -- they can't pronounce "wh" correctly (or a terminal "r, for that matter), poor dears. Stewart - -- Stewart C. Russell Senior Analyst Programmer stewart@ref.collins.co.uk Collins Dictionaries use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Bishopbriggs, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:07:25 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: iPod Announced On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > Actually kill -HUP ist used most often as a signal to a process that > its configuration has been changed. I wonder if there are *any* > programs that terminate when they receive this signal!? Some talk programs do. Actually, I think most user programs do... let me check -- yeah, at least in tcsh, the shell dies on a HUP and sends all its children the same. You have to run with -nohup to avoid everything going away when you log out. At least, that's what the man page says. Is this a thread, or a contest to see how few lines it takes to get most of the list to ignore a message? a - -- to raise your intake of aaron, consider -- - -- fiction on demand -- free fast figments -- - -- read or request at www.pastemob.org/ltd -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:13:17 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Robert Saunders Subject: Re: Language of Love >> I something you follwed an essay on how if we didnt have the word love >> our language would be much richer and diverse. > >Right. My friend Rachel once said to me, "I hate saying that I LOVE >you... it doesn't seem to cover it. I mean, I LOVE ice cream." Everyone read The Language of Love by Robert Sheckley (and any other short story by him you can possibly get your hands on): "He simply could not put his feelings into words. Such expressions as 'I love you,' 'I adore you,' 'I'm crazy about you.' were overworked and inadequate. They conveyed nothing of the depth and fervour of his emotions. Indeed, they cheapened them, since every stereo, every second-rate play was filled with similar words. People used them in casual conversation and spoke of how much they *loved* pork chops, *adored* sunsets, were *crazy about* tennis. Never, he swore, would he speak of his love in terms used for pork chops." So he travels to the planet Tyana to learn the Tyanans ancient Language of Love, the only language capable of expressing precisely what he means. It has a really funny ending. Daniel Saunders Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away. - Philip K. Dick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:31:30 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: iPod Announced On Mon, Oct 29, 2001, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > Actually kill -HUP ist used most often as a signal to a process that > its configuration has been changed. I wonder if there are *any* > programs that terminate when they receive this signal!? No idea. I have never used kill -1 for anything other than to have a process reread its config file. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:02:43 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: Arthur, king of the Britons! >My dad and I share some reading interests and have >traded books since I was a young teenager. We are >both reading Jack Whyte's King Arthur books - The >Camulod Chronicles - now, which attempt to construct >the story as it could have happened, sans magic. My friend Colin and I believe there should be a permanent moratorium on all books about King Arthur. I mean, what new tack can you possibly take on the subject? There's the "historical" Arthur, the pagan Arthur, Arthur from the point of view of Merlyn, Arthur from the point of view of Morgan le Fay, Arthur from the point of view of Guinevere, T.H. White's Arthur as a metaphor for WWII, Arthur in present times, Arthur in the future, etc. etc. etc. Not to diss your reading choice, by the way - I just think maybe we need to put a stop to all this Arthur stuff at some point. I also don't want to see any more books about vampires or serial killers, for similar reasons. >If you have only seen the Disney >movie - which was great, don't get me wrong - there >was of course much more to the books and I really >enjoyed them as a kid. Fuck Di$ney! Mary Poppins rules! Nobody believes me when I say that. In the book, she's no sweetsie-neatsie Julie Andrews - she's a prim stuck-up bitch who "only smiles at her own reflection." (Of course, this is only a cover-up - she's actually a softy, but it's hard to tell most of the time.) Speaking of books I read as a kid, I just bought a copy of "Hawkmistress!" by Marian Zimmer Bradley. I loved this book because it was a total wish-fulfillment story about a girl disguising herself as a boy, running away from home and having lots of adventures. It was also the first SF/fantasy book I ever read in which the female protagonist got her period. Nobody gets their period in SF or fantasy. You think Galadriel ever got cramps? Anyway, the book is pretty poorly written (as usual for Bradley) but I'm enjoying it anyway. I also bought "Perelandra" by C.S. Lewis, which I read a long time ago but don't remember much about. Haven't started on it yet. I'm also thinking of re-reading the Narnia books, and I just re-read L'Engle's "A Swiftly Tilting Planet" which is as good as I rememeber. Why am I engaging in this literary nostalgia? God knows. Oh yeah, re. my earlier comments on Sam, and Drews's response - I don't find loveable stupidity to be "charming." I find it annoying. Of course, we all know that Sam is much smarter than he seems, and that's what really makes his servility irritating: he's tougher than Frodo and just as smart (in his own way), but he's still Frodo's *servant* and is considered by all the other characters to be lesser than him. This makes me want to introduce socialism to Middle Earth. Am I taking this too seriously? n. was playing: Solex, "Low Kick and Hard Bop" - great for the title alone, not as kitchen-sinky as her earlier stuff but still very good. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:25:23 -0500 From: Brian Cully Subject: Re: iPod Announced On Saturday, October 27, 2001, at 06:55 , Capuchin wrote: > Well, I DID say that `kill -SEGV` does sound pretty cool... as does > `kill -TERM`. The disadvantage with kill -SEGV is that it can leave a core file (actually, the SEGV switch is supposed to leave a core file, and it's supposed to be generated by an honest to God memory error, the fact that you can use it is a neat artifact of the signalling system in Unix, you *should* be using kill -QUIT if you want a core file), which can get RILLY huge, and unless you're going to debug the dead program, it's a complete waste of space. kill -1 - or -HUP, they're the same thing - is used to tell a program that it's terminal has gone away, but it's been somewhat usurped over the years to tell it to reload it's configuration data. kill -TERM is used to ask a program to gracefully quit, and as such is somewhat unreliable for wedged programs. And this brings us to kill -9 (or kill -KILL, which is much more amusing IMHO), which will kill absolutely everything unless the computer is messed up (like if it's stuck on disk i/o, which happens a lot when using NFS and your NFS server dies). - -bjc - -- I mean, how can I really be free when I still have four payments left on the fridge? -- Graham Chapman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:40:05 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Christian Death MP3 problem? I just sent this to Ken at first, but then I thought other Fegs might still be following this thread; so here's a copy for y'all. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:38:44 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross To: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Christian Death MP3 problem? On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Ken Weingold wrote: > Chris, what was the problem? I just tried ripping once track from > Only Theater of Pain, Spiritual Cramp, and came out fine. I guess "problem" was the wrong word; it's just a mysterious but harmless quirk. The mp3s play just fine, but they have weird gibberish in the ID3v2 comment box. It looks like this (I broke it up into two lines): EA0C4810+3147+16+150+18625+30747+47537+59997+75150+89107+102282+ 116925+133855+145930+155985+171207+184200+204000+219150 I don't remember if iTunes even displays the comments, but they're visible in WinAmp. It only seems to happen on mp3s ripped on my beige G3 at home, not on those done on the G4s at the library. Anyway, at first I was afraid it indicated some problemt with the mp3s, but in fact they play just fine in both WinAmp and iTunes. - --Chris np: Inkubus Sukkubus, "Samhain" (on a cheap shitty pair of earphones where the left speaker has now fallen silent, to my EXTREME annoyance. Maybe I just have trouble with technology in general...) ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:47:30 -0500 From: Brian Cully Subject: Re: iPod Announced On Monday, October 29, 2001, at 03:28 , Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > Actually kill -HUP ist used most often as a signal to a process that > its configuration has been changed. I wonder if there are *any* > programs that terminate when they receive this signal!? Depends on the program. By and large, all non-daemon processes will die when this signal is sent, since it's sent from the shell when it terminates. Actually, by default, all processes will die when you send /any/ signal (with the exception of ALRM, and THREAD (under Solaris, or some other LWP-based threading architectures). I'm done. If you're really interested, you can pick up Stevens book, _Advanced Unix Programming_, which covers a lot of ground in regards to the signalling system in Unix. - -bjc - -- I mean, how can I really be free when I still have four payments left on the fridge? -- Graham Chapman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:48:02 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: Wonderland Good to hear from you She-Rex, and thanks for the Wonderland info. I have a photo of a teen-age Alice Liddell on my studio door. She's amazingly knowing-looking. Her hands on her hip, her chin's up and theres a look in the back of her eyes which just shouldnt be there. Major tude. One wonders. Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:57:18 -0500 (EST) From: dmw Subject: whinge portmanteau whine + cringe, n'est-ce pas? - -- d. np some joe jackson thing ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:59:05 -0000 From: "lucifersam" Subject: Syd Barrett Book @ Genesis Re: Syd Barrett#300 for Syds autograph huh? Glad they are doing a cheap version ! - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - --- We are not accepting orders for this title at present. We are currently preparing an order form for this title and it should be ready shortly. This will then be mailed out with the colour brochures, hopefully at the beginning of next month. The book is due to be ready for despatch early New Year. The 320 full leather, deluxe copies signed by Mick Rock and Syd Barrett will be #500. The 630 regular copies, bound in quarter leather, signed by Mick Rock will be around #200 but this has not yet been set in stone. We will keep you updated via this email address and if you would like to receive a brochure please let me have your address. Thanks, Tessa. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:59:49 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Finally... With Paul Carrack's "Suburban Voodoo", I finally finished ripping my entire CD collection this morning! I've got a total of 7103 songs totalling 19 days and 4 hours of music, taking up 38.8 Gigabytes. Phew! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:21:41 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: please mr. gravedigger -9 Dylan hears that Lord of the Rings is hitting the big screen & decides to write a multivolume autobiography. Each volume will end with the same chorus. No, wait, he's actually writing new words to Woody Guthrie's autobiography. - --- Novel writing-- I feel like I've spewed enough *practically* off the top of my head in the past year that I better spend this time working on what I've got. But I'd sure like to see other folks stuff -- don't think I could handle several very raw novels, but a chapter or two from each ... To trade? Well I've already got a story w/ a Hitchcockian character on tour, mostly it's about the fucked up people he share a show w/ in a small city ... plus the 1st chapter of my novel, a "story" which is deeply, deeply flawed (beat me!). - --- please mr. gravedigger-- I always thought Bowie came up w/ killer song titles for his early stuff, which, when I finally got around to hearing it was almost always a disappointment -- except for "Baby Loves That Way" and "Unwashed & Somewhat Slightly Dazed." I definitely like Kay's RH as undertaker idea, since he's so talkative. Only I think he'd be more cheerful & less sardonic than say, the gravedigger in Hamlet. Just as likely to come up w Airscape as to go on about worms. And speaking of, - --- Sedlec Ossuary-- Isn't this the one that Jan Svankmeyer[sp?] did his first film about? And on weird flicks, - --- Thanks to Scary for the Bros. Quay film. Sorta thought they were too cool for pop, so glad they're not. - --- Faster Pussycat! Kill -9! -- We always manage to get something that actually requires the machine to re-boot, & I've seen our network manager walk into the server room w/ an "I'm gonna kill that sombitch" chuckle. - --- Oh where oh where is our softboys album, oh where oh where can it be - --- Ross Taylor but me I expected it to happen I knew he'd lost control when I, uh, he built a fire on mainstreet and shot it full of holes Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:19:34 -0800 From: "Voodoo Ergonomics" Subject: superglued a snowglobe to his nutsack and i have essentially stopped participating because of the depoliticisation of the list at a time when the world is on the brink of total calamity, and the u.s. is probably going to kill as many people in the next few months as were killed by its 20-year onslaught of indochina. i'm certainly not here to dictate subject matter, so won't press the issue. but it's too bad, as yours are the opinions i respect most, and am most interested in hearing. even those i vehemently disagree with are generally coherent and well-argued. me: firstly, it looks as though you misunderstood what i was saying (not unreasonably, as i re-read what i wrote). my assertion was not that the palestinians would stop terrorist attacks in israel if israel would, let's say, adhere to UN 242. (though i think this is almost certainly true as well.) my assertion was that the *bin laden-ites* would discontinue their attacks against "american interests" (bin laden's term), defined not only as possible further attacks on american soil, but also attacks on embassies, military bases, battleships, etc., if the united states (which bin laden describes as "infidels") would remove itself from the region. that would mean not only ending its support of israel, but also ending the war upon iraq, removing its military bases from saudi arabia, and, one presumes, ending the war on afghanistan. (those seem to be bin laden's requirements. we could, of course, go much further than that.) if you *did* take this as my meaning, then your response is largely a logical disconnect. while i can imagine that bin laden and his ilk may consider the israelis as "infidels", to my knowledge all terrorist attacks upon israel have been carried out from within palestine. ironically, the one bin laden-ite attack that i can think of that was in direct response to events concerning israel/palestine was the assassination of sadat. what are the chances that terrorist attacks against "american interests" would cease if we were to leave the region alone? we'll know if we try. there is a precedent, though. as soon as they had driven the russians from afghanistan, they ceased to carry out terrorist attacks within the soviet union. but let me stress again that the reason we should get out of the region is because our presence there is immoral and illegal. and if terrorist attacks *against* americans would end, of course that's a good thing. but that still leaves the world with a much, much, much greater danger: terrorist attacks (and worse) committed by, sponsored by, funded by, and diplomatically smoothed over by the united states. as for the "95% of what they wanted", "given by" clinton (as though it were clinton's to give), it's just ludicrous. you believe it because clinton, barak, and krauthammer told you so? there's a fairly thorough analysis (including maps) at . the current Monthly Review has a couple of good articles along the same lines. (they're not available online, alas.) there's also a good (if not a little polyanna-ish) article by edward said, offering a way out, at . and your "they will not reason" line is straight doublethink. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:30:52 -0800 (PST) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: Finally... On Mon, 29 Oct 2001, Tom Clark wrote: >With Paul Carrack's "Suburban Voodoo", I finally finished ripping my entire >CD collection this morning! I've got a total of 7103 songs totalling 19 days >and 4 hours of music, taking up 38.8 Gigabytes. So when are you going to begin streaming this fine toonage to the rest of us? I can't believe that much music only uses up 38 gigs. Cheers! - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:41:43 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: toonage > >With Paul Carrack's "Suburban Voodoo", I finally finished ripping my entire >>CD collection this morning! I've got a total of 7103 songs totalling 19 days > >and 4 hours of music, taking up 38.8 Gigabytes. It's always a relief to hear about people who are wankier about their CD collections than me. ;) Eb (so, let's see...7103/12 = approximately 600 albums?) np: http://home.earthlink.net/~elbroome/np.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:46:26 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Finally... on 10/29/01 3:30 PM, Glen Uber at uberg@sonic.net wrote: > So when are you going to begin streaming this fine toonage to the rest of > us? As soon as I set up icecast or something similar on my OS X machine... ...and the RIAA doesn't find out. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:57:12 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: toonage on 10/29/01 2:41 PM, Eb at elbroome@earthlink.net wrote: > It's always a relief to hear about people who are wankier about their > CD collections than me. ;) > How is this wanky? I just want to have all my music available on demand. The stats are provided by iTunes; I didn't add it all up myself. > Eb (so, let's see...7103/12 = approximately 600 albums?) Around 450, I think. One thing iTunes can also do is spit out a comma delimited file of your entire library. That would make it easy to hook up a database to a web page front end to make remote playlists.... oh wait, I'm getting wanky - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:12:13 -0500 From: Brian Cully Subject: Re: toonage On Monday, October 29, 2001, at 06:57 , Tom Clark wrote: > One thing iTunes can also do is spit out a comma delimited file of your > entire library. That would make it easy to hook up a database to a web > page > front end to make remote playlists.... oh wait, I'm getting wanky We have that set up at work. A MySQL database with song information and URLs to people's MP3 databases across our corporate network. We have about 200,000 tracks at this point (although quite a number are redundant). There's a web front end and an IRC front end for queue manipulation, and it's all password protected to keep it internal to the company (lest the RIAA come and kill us all). The database is updated 6 times a day with various polling scripts that go out and check indecies on the mp3 servers that DJ Frog knows about so new material is added constantly, and it's always minty-fresh. We have multiple channels, as well, for various themes or just for listening to pseudo-private playlists (since only the main channel is really used), and the random playlist generator is genre-aware to try and play appropriate music for each channel. This is what happens when perl hackers get bored. I used to have a script to rip CDs at outrageous speeds on the spare 8 CPU Sun 4000s sitting around. That's prolly wanky. Just a vanilla playlist editor with a web front end? Perfectly sane. - -bjc - -- I hope I don't win / the rules say to bring a friend / I don't have any -- Haikuing for Space Ghost Contest Winner ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #410 ********************************