From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #405 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, October 24 2001 Volume 10 : Number 405 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Reap ["matt sewell" ] Re: the answer is.... [Michael R Godwin ] Re; Website Up ["Redtailed Hawk" ] Re: Uh.....Oops! I pulled a Hal! [gSs ] Sam & Frodo & Wagner & Ted, Carol and Alice [The Great Quail ] Carlos [Brett Cooper ] RE: Carlos ["Larry O'Brien" ] samwise crabwise ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: the answer is.... [Christopher Gross ] Re: samwise crabwise ["Stewart C. Russell" ] By the way (was Re: Halloween music) [Christopher Gross ] iPod Announced [Tom Clark ] national novel writing month ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Hidden meanings ["Redtailed Hawk" ] Re: Olive Trees and Potatoes [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] nooz [Eb ] Re: iPod Announced [Christopher Gross ] Re: iPod Announced [Brian Cully ] Re: iPod Announced [Tom Clark ] Re: iPod Announced [Capuchin ] Re: iPod Announced [Ken Weingold ] I Often Dream of Trains--vinyl ["Marc Holden" ] Re: Olive Trees and Potatoes ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: iPod Announced [Capuchin ] Re: the answer is.... [Michael R Godwin ] Re: iPod Announced [Ken Weingold ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:24:54 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Reap Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Howard Finster, painter of the sleeves to R.E.M. _Reckoning_ and > Talking Heads _Little Creatures_, among other things and frequently featured at Baltimore's American Visionary Art Museum, the best place ever! Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:26:25 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Reap Saw an interview with HF recently, on an excellent series of programs presented by Jarvis Cocker on outsider art... ISTR he was very old and fairly infirm then, although still working on his art... Also gone forever is Dr John Cunningham Lilly - the developer of the sensory deprivation tank, would-be converser with cetaceans and basis for cult film for stoners Altered States... Cheers Matt >From: Jeff Dwarf >Reply-To: Jeff Dwarf >To: Your Psychedelic Bar Mitzvah >Subject: Reap >Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 06:01:44 -0700 (PDT) > >Howard Finster, painter of the sleeves to R.E.M. _Reckoning_ and >Talking Heads _Little Creatures_, among other things >Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. >http://personals.yahoo.com - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:44:14 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: the answer is.... On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Jill Brand wrote: > Vera Lynn (Roberta got it right away) > Her name appears in The Kinks' "Mr. Churchill Says", in Robyn's "The Yip > Song", and in Travis's "U-16 Girls." I find this very strange. Not really - they are all British acts, and sooner or later every British writer has to confront the Second World War. There's a Ken Dodd gag in today's Independent which goes something like: "I knew the Gulf War was serious when I went past Vera Lynn's house and heard her gargling". ... well, I thought it was funny. - - Mike Godwin PS Did you hear bastard bastard bastard Blair claiming that the American stood by the British during the Blitz? (Date of Blitz on Coventry: June-Nov 1940 Date of Blitz on London: September-Oct 1940 Date of US entry into WW2: December 1941) Refs: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:51:29 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: Re; Website Up James new web site-- Well, of course its marvelous, fun, intelligent and interestingly warped(sorry James, but we do -expect- that of you;-) but what I want to know is: How come it starts with a Dante and not a Hitchcock quote? Huh, huh? BTW--Ive only had time to look over the artwork, the essay on aesthetic preferences and the notes section but ... I am utterly impressed. And even better, the material is evocative and sparks off all sorts of ideas. Great stuff. Everyone go see. Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:04:39 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Uh.....Oops! I pulled a Hal! On Fri, 19 Oct 2001, Christopher Gross wrote: > Hey, you forgot to mention abortion, gun control, and MacOS vs. Windows! Isn't this a violation of feg codes 3,4 and 5? gSs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:29:47 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: Sam & Frodo & Wagner & Ted, Carol and Alice Capuchin writes, >I didn't mean to totally dismiss Frodo. But he's not much MORE of a hero >than any other member of the Fellowship (with the possible exception of >Boromir). I can see your point; but nevertheless I disagree. Most of the other members of the Fellowship were born and bred for more heroic tasks. They are more in their element, whereas Frodo and his Hobbity companions have to really overcome quite a lot as they launched themselves into a strange new world. (And a violent & scary one at that.) >Reminds me of a terrible argument I had with my sophomore honors English >class in high school about the poem Penelope. I argued that Penelope was >not a "hero" for keeping the home fires burning while Ulysses was gone, >because it wasn't all that extraordinary. It's great, but it's a common >greatness. I am not familiar with the poem, but the Penelope of "The Odyssey" and Greek Myths wasn't just a waiting wife; she was a shrewd politician who had to preserve her lands, her honor, and her wedding bed from numerous ill-tempered and manipulative men. She was quite extraordinary, actually. >> Wow, talk about burying the geek needle. > >No kidding. Yes, I can hear Eb moaning in despair.... James writes, >James (who didn't know that Wagner had anything to do with washing machines) Yes indeed! After all, what about the "Spin, Spoin, Spin" chorus from "The Flying Dutchman?" - --The Great "Bringing you obscure Wagner jokes since 1995" Quail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:01:55 -0500 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Washed Up Wagner > James writes, > >James (who didn't know that Wagner had anything to do with washing machines) And Quail opines: > Yes indeed! After all, what about the "Spin, Spoin, Spin" chorus from > "The Flying Dutchman?" < groan > > --The Great "Bringing you obscure Wagner jokes since 1995" Quail Winged washerwomen windsurfing Whirlpool warbirds? I love it! We could do a whole four-part trilogy on the politics of central European clothes cleaning. And it would looooooooooooong with lots of lint. Set on High. Michael "Ride of the Deluxe Spinmasters" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 07:31:28 -0800 From: Brett Cooper Subject: Carlos Is anyone else as addicted to the Clockwork Orange soundtrack by Wendy Carlos as much as I am? Brett ******************************************** Cooper Collections http://home.gci.net/~coopercollections ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:32:04 -0400 From: "Larry O'Brien" Subject: RE: Carlos Yeah, or I used to be anyway. Back then it was "Walter" Carlos -- pre operation. I like "Timesteps". - -----Original Message----- From: Brett Cooper [mailto:coopercollections@gci.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 11:31 AM To: Fegmaniax Subject: Carlos Is anyone else as addicted to the Clockwork Orange soundtrack by Wendy Carlos as much as I am? Brett ******************************************** Cooper Collections http://home.gci.net/~coopercollections ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:53:23 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: samwise crabwise I rather agree with those who claim that Sam is the true hero of LOTR (or at the very least, equally as heroic as Frodo). But I also agree with my father's main beef with LOTR, which is that the depiction of Sam is repulsively classist, what with all his forelock-tugging and "Yes, master" and "No, master" and ostensibly loveable rustic thick-wittedness. He does eventually rise to the occasion, of course, and proves himself not to be so thick-witted after all, but at least in "Fellowship of the Rings" he could be pretty awful. But this is really just in keeping with the other strains of classism (and racism) present in the book. And it doesn't make the book any less enjoyable - or Sam any less of a hero. In fact, it makes him more of one. n., who slogged through "The Silmarillion," and actually enjoyed parts of it _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:03:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: the answer is.... On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Michael R Godwin wrote: > PS Did you hear bastard bastard bastard Blair claiming that the American > stood by the British during the Blitz? > (Date of Blitz on Coventry: June-Nov 1940 > Date of Blitz on London: September-Oct 1940 > Date of US entry into WW2: December 1941) Isn't the Blitz considered to have ended in May 1941? Nov. 1939: US Neutrality Act is revised to allow belligerents to purchase supplies on "cash and carry" basis -- in effect, the Allies, but not the Axis, are permitted to buy supplies in US Summer 1940: Destroyers for bases deal -- US gave Britain 50 destroyers to escort supply convoys (plus Britain could withdraw its military from those bases without fear the Axis would take them over) March 1941: Lend-Lease Act -- US begins supplying weapons to Britain, essentially for free It wasn't a declaration of war on Germany, perhaps, but it was a lot better than nothing (as Britons at the time recognized). - --Chris np: Bowie, "Scary Monsters" ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:12:27 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: samwise crabwise Natalie Jane wrote: > > the depiction of Sam is > repulsively classist, what with all his forelock-tugging ah, that's why he's so smarmy in "Bored Of The Rings" (which I'm pleased to see has been re-released in pbk.) Stewart (horrified to see the "History Of Middle Earth, vol 1", in leather Bible/slipcase binding in our shop. Looks like its RRP is about 100 victorians...) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:54:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: By the way (was Re: Halloween music) > > >"happy happy halloween, halloween, halloween / happy happy halloween, > > >silver shamrock" > > > > Oh My God!!!!!!! I remember that! I loved that movie!!!! I'm still waiting to hear what movie this was from. - --Chris np: BOC, "Don't Fear the Reaper" ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:10:13 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: Re: By the way (was Re: Halloween music) Wasn't it "Halloween III: Season of the Witch"? The one John Carpenter directed? It was "a bit of a departure" from the others, IIRC. The idea was that there was this huge Satanic mega-corporation that was distributing "Silver Shamrock" brand Halloween masks to little kids that ate away their faces and killed them when they wore them. You kept waiting for Jamie Lee Curtis to show up, but she never did... Wait a minute, I must've been mixed up -- that's actually real life! Probably the most awful and annoying ad-jingle-inside-a- movie ever recorded. JH3 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Gross" To: "Squidmaniax!" Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 10:54 AM Subject: By the way (was Re: Halloween music) > > > >"happy happy halloween, halloween, halloween / happy happy halloween, > > > >silver shamrock" > > > > > > Oh My God!!!!!!! I remember that! I loved that movie!!!! > > I'm still waiting to hear what movie this was from. > > > --Chris > > np: BOC, "Don't Fear the Reaper" > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. > chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:18:27 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: iPod Announced http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/011023/sftu137_1.html http://www.apple.com/ipod/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:21:03 -0700 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: national novel writing month When I first saw you guys talking about this on here, I thought, "yeah right, this is not going to be something I could do." My girlfriend just pointed it out to me independently and she's almost talked me into signing up. Who's planning to do it from the list? Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:30:25 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: Hidden meanings As it is one of the pleasures of high geekdom to peruse dictionaries for no plausable reason, I chanced upon this in "The Oxford Dictionary of Literary Quotations" "Some words teem with hidden meaning -- like Basingstoke." Its a line from G&S's Ruddigore. Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:36:06 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Olive Trees and Potatoes >Truely dumb question... > >Filk? originally a misspelling of folk music, filk songs are parody songs a la Weird Al Yankovich or the Barron Knights, usually aimed at classic (or not so classic) Science Fiction and Fantasy by their respective and overlapping fan communities. The songs are usually (but not always) parodies of well known songs, sometimes however, they are originals. Somewhere between 95 and 99% are the most dire pieces of trash ever seen. The remaining 1-5% are usually excellent.It reminds me vaguely of - who was it, Twain? - 's comment about writing and washing your hands afterwards. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:38:35 -0700 From: Eb Subject: nooz Bob Dylan to write multivolume autobiography NEW YORK (Reuters) - Rock legend Bob Dylan has reached a deal to write a multivolume autobiography called "Chronicles," a spokeswoman for his publisher, Simon & Schuster, said Monday. "Over the years, he's engaged in all forms of writing. This is just a natural extension of the experience," said Elliott Mintz, Dylan's spokesman. Dylan, 60, won the best-album Grammy award in 1997 for "Time Out of Mind," an Oscar for best song for last year's "Things Have Changed," and has been nominated for a Nobel Prize in literature. This autumn, he released "Love and Theft," his 43rd album, to critical acclaim and is currently on a national tour that has received rave reviews from the press and fans. While he has written more than 500 songs, Dylan's only book, "Tarantula," a series of poems and free-form fiction, was penned in 1966 when he was 25. In an interview with European reporters in Rome last summer, Dylan said he was forced to write "Tarantula" by his manager. This time a book is his idea. "I think that what I'm writing has been trying to find its way out for some time now," he said. He told Time Magazine last September he had written 150 to 200 pages of the autobiography and was piecing together anecdotes about himself that others have told because "my retrievable memory, it goes blank on incidents and things that have happened." His life has been the subject of several biographies and dozens of books, with Amazon.com listing 156 books in print on Dylan. The most recent of those books have portrayed him as as a man obsessed by privacy and hounded by fans, a performer who rose to fame by exploiting his fellow musicians. Mintz said Dylan had "never responded" to such criticism and the autobiography was not being written for that purpose. "He's lived a long, eventful life. He's just elected to do this now." "I like to write," Dylan told the interviewers in Rome and promised to be "looking at everything from a new point of view." The first volume of the memoir is scheduled for publication sometime next year. Terms of the contract were not disclosed. Simon and Schuster is the publishing operation of media giant Viacom Inc.. Reuters/Variety ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:27:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: iPod Announced On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Tom Clark wrote: > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/011023/sftu137_1.html > http://www.apple.com/ipod/ Looks pretty cool! A tad overpriced though. Still, I'd love to have one. (Those of you shopping for my birthday presents, please ignore the "overpriced" comment above. I'm sure it's a bargain!) Speaking of such things, I just used iTunes to rip MP3s from a CD for the first time. When playing the MP3s in WinAmp at work, I noticed a lot of gibberish showing up in the file info comment box -- long strings of numbers and a few letters, interspersed with plus signs. Is this normal? Does it mean anything? - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:54:29 -0400 From: Brian Cully Subject: Re: iPod Announced It's overpriced for a generic MP3 player, but as is typical Apple style, you pay a lot, but you get more than what you paid for. IMHO, it's a damn slick as MP3 players go. I'm just a bit peeved because an MP3 player ain't worth that kinda hype. Personally, I was hoping for a Newton redux. =) - -bjc On Tuesday, October 23, 2001, at 06:27 , Christopher Gross wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Tom Clark wrote: > >> http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/011023/sftu137_1.html >> http://www.apple.com/ipod/ > > Looks pretty cool! A tad overpriced though. Still, I'd love to have > one. (Those of you shopping for my birthday presents, please ignore the > "overpriced" comment above. I'm sure it's a bargain!) > > Speaking of such things, I just used iTunes to rip MP3s from a CD for > the > first time. When playing the MP3s in WinAmp at work, I noticed a lot of > gibberish showing up in the file info comment box -- long strings of > numbers and a few letters, interspersed with plus signs. Is this > normal? > Does it mean anything? > > --Chris > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. > chrisg@gwu.edu > > - -- The woman that thou gavest me, she tempted me, and I did eat. -- Genesis 3:12 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:10:24 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: iPod Announced on 10/23/01 3:27 PM, Christopher Gross at chrisg@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu wrote: > Speaking of such things, I just used iTunes to rip MP3s from a CD for the > first time. When playing the MP3s in WinAmp at work, I noticed a lot of > gibberish showing up in the file info comment box -- long strings of > numbers and a few letters, interspersed with plus signs. Is this normal? > Does it mean anything? Could it be the ID3v2 info? I ran into a problem recently when an ID3v2 parser I wrote was choking on iTunes files. Turns out iTunes creates ID3v2.2 tags and I was only looking for ID3v2.3. Maybe WinAmp isn't checking that all important last version byte, like I wasn't. Nonetheless, I like the iPod. It is a tad expensive, compared to other hard disk based players. But the ID is beautiful, and I really like the FireWire interface - that was the big surprise for me. And the fact that it shows up on the bus as a regular mass storage device means that it probably wouldn't be too difficult to make it work on other platforms. - -tc n.w. "Gallager: Stuck in the Sixties" on Comedy Central with the sound off. He sucks. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:27:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: iPod Announced On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Tom Clark wrote: > Nonetheless, I like the iPod. Well, it's pretty. > And the fact that it shows up on the bus as a regular mass storage > device means that it probably wouldn't be too difficult to make it > work on other platforms. And, of course, that's exactly what I was wondering. You gonna make this happen, Tom? Start a sourceforge project, maybe? J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 00:44:15 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: iPod Announced On Tue, Oct 23, 2001, Tom Clark wrote: > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/011023/sftu137_1.html > http://www.apple.com/ipod/ Looks cool. $400 though? Ouch. Still looks really cool. Of course you could also get the Genica player for less than $100. . Plays audio CDs and CDRs with MP3s on them. So your limit is 650 megs. Works well. So does the iPod REQUIRE iTunes? Sorry, not going to a Mac just for that. Even though they gave me a G4 at work. So now I have on my desk at work a PC, Sun Ultra 5, and a G4. Pathetic. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 00:09:03 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: I Often Dream of Trains--vinyl Sorry about the slow response. I Often Dream of Trains came out on Midnight Records and on Glass Fish/Relativity. All the different label info for each album, with the exception of some non-UK/US variations should be available on-line. I'd be glad to help fill in any remaining gaps in the info where needed, when I get back to Phoenix--I'm going to San Francisco to see the Residents for Halloween and hopefully catch X in Anaheim. Later, Marc "The fact of the matter is, I'm fucking brilliant. Not was brilliant. Am brilliant." --- Pete Townshend ("...it ain't bragging if it's true..." ---Dan Bern(stein) quoting Muhammad Ali) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:17:24 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Olive Trees and Potatoes James Dignan wrote: > > >Truely dumb question... > > > >Filk? > > originally a misspelling of folk music, filk songs are parody songs such as (to be sung falsetto to the tune of "Moon Shadow"): I sat heavily on a Brooks saddle Brooks saddle, Brooks saddle... One particular thing about filks is that they tend to be for a particular audience -- unless you're a bike nut, you have no idea what a Brooks saddle is (and just how -ing painful they are if you happen to sit on one wrong*). My example's firmly in the 95%, but I'm sure more people on the urbancyclist-uk mailing list would like it... Stewart *: as I did this morning. Ow! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:23:01 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: iPod Announced Tom Clark wrote: > > http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/011023/sftu137_1.html > http://www.apple.com/ipod/ does it do Ogg? I like Ogg. Less annoyingly bokeh (yeah, I know it's a photographic term for "unsharpness", but it's the best I can come up with) than MP3 at the same bitrates. It's VBR out the box. It doesn't have to rely on nasty hack extensions like ID3. It's also completely and utterly free. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 02:30:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: iPod Announced On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Ken Weingold wrote: > Of course you could also get the Genica player for less than $100. > . Plays audio CDs > and CDRs with MP3s on them. So your limit is 650 megs. Works well. And you still end up with lots of crappy plastic discs littering landfills and making a mess of things. God forbid you should overtax your system while burning a CD and end up with a plastic plated mylar coaster. I thought about getting a portable CD player that handles MP3s until I considered the mess. For now, I have my minidiscs... and later I might have something with longer running time without removable media. But it won't be a read-only affair (or a RW 100 times only, whole-disk-at-a-time, and also quite fragile thingie). J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:38:25 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: the answer is.... On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Christopher Gross wrote: > Isn't the Blitz considered to have ended in May 1941? From "Although the initial bombing was for 57 consecutive nights from 7th September to 2nd November, the bombing was still severe throughout 1941 and into 1942 where air-raids were now becoming spasmodic ... According to the Duxfords library, the Blitz was in three main phases. The [casualty] figures for the first part of August 1940 to May 10th 1941 and not including the Baedeker raids nor the mini blitz, were: For London: Casualties were: 43,000 Killed, 51,000 Seriously injured 88,000 Slightly injured". Thus 10th May 1941 is the date of the end of 'phase 1', while 2nd Nov 1940 is the date of the last night of consecutive raids. > March 1941: Lend-Lease Act -- US begins supplying weapons to Britain, > essentially for free > It wasn't a declaration of war on Germany, perhaps, but it was a lot > better than nothing (as Britons at the time recognized). I'm not disputing this, I'm just fed up with Tony Blair's untruths and half-truths. - - Mike Godwin PS Nevertheless, I understand that the final part of Skidelsky's biography of Keynes provides evidence that many of these favours were "called in" soon after the war ended, exacerbating the economic crisis which led to the devaluation 1949; I haven't read it yet, though. PPS Is it just my imagination, or did I read somewhere that the US never actually declared war on Germany? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:06:59 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: iPod Announced On Wed, Oct 24, 2001, Capuchin wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Ken Weingold wrote: > > Of course you could also get the Genica player for less than $100. > > . Plays audio CDs > > and CDRs with MP3s on them. So your limit is 650 megs. Works well. > > And you still end up with lots of crappy plastic discs littering landfills > and making a mess of things. Why landfill mess? The CDs are USED, not disposable. I don't understand this argument. > For now, I have my minidiscs... and later I might have something with > longer running time without removable media. But it won't be a read-only > affair (or a RW 100 times only, whole-disk-at-a-time, and also quite > fragile thingie). Multi-session CDRs. IIRC, the Genica player might not be able to play CDRW discs. - -Ken ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #405 ********************************