From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #395 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, October 16 2001 Volume 10 : Number 395 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Halloween music ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Bad news for UK ghosts ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Speakerz ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Mink Car [Brian Cully ] Re: Halloween music [The Great Quail ] Re: molotov cocktail [The Great Quail ] Halloween church music ["JH3" ] Re: molotove cocktail [gSs ] 98% Steve content ["Natalie Jane" ] RFH Friday ["lucifersam" ] LOTR content ["Mike Wells" ] GLH swapping, anyone? ["Mike Wells" ] Re: Molotov Cocktail ["ross taylor" ] Re: Halloween music [Christopher Gross ] Halloween ["ross taylor" ] RE: Halloween music ["Redtailed Hawk" ] Halloween for the old folks [Jill Brand ] Re: Halloween music ["victorian squid" ] No RH% (pixies and yankees) [Mike Swedene ] Re: 98% Steve content [steve ] Don't talk to me about halloween music [shmac@ix.netcom.com (Scott Hunter] Whatever happened to The Quigmans? [0% RH] ["Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Halloween music lucifersam wrote: > > Gotta say, from a Brit (London) point of view. I find Halloween to be a pain > in the friggin arse.Spotty little shits banging on your door demanding dosh > or other stuff. Throw a bowl of dish water at the little bastards i say ... And they don't even do it right any more. "Guising" is an old Scottish tradition where you dress up, wander round the neighbourhood, and sign a song/tell a joke, etc. If it's any good, you get something. If it's not, you don't. Now all they do is "Trick or Treat", and expect moolah/snacks. Sheesh. How much effort is that? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:26:18 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Bad news for UK ghosts Rob wrote: > > http://uk.news.yahoo.com/011014/80/c9izn.html And I thought it was all just the fault of the church ladies. It's weird; my mum used to be an enthusiastic Halloween type. Now she thinks it's of the devil. Hmm. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:40:23 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: molotove cocktail Wow, thats great that you know who did it and why. Have you pressed charges or have there been any arrests? gSs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:47:46 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Speakerz >From: >Subject: Speakerz: this bounced. I'm trying again.... [snip Mr. Shark's very good and informed points about choosing speakers] I won't argue with Mr. Shark, but I would like to point out the importance of synergy and chemistry in building a system. Sometimes things which shouldn't sound good together (according to the numbers) can make magic. For instance, I use large, rather inefficient and power-hungry planar speakers (Magnepan 1.6QRs) and I power them with 30wpc McIntosh tube amps built in 1960. Many, many people told me that would be a terrible combination (people say you need at least 200wpc to make the Magnepans happy), but when I put them in my system I got pure magic - -- but it's also due to the listening space, my other components, cables, and so on. But I am certain I will use only Magnepan speakers for a very long time. Of course, it helps to know a hi-fi dealer who lets you take components and speakers home to audition them in your own stereo in your own room. I was able to audition two pairs of speakers before I brought home the Magnepans. I don't think the chain stores will let you audition a component, let alone help you set it up in your house. >If the room is large, I still really like the Klipsch Lascalas and >Kornerhorns. When fed by a smooth, clean amp, of course a tube >Mcintosh or a Manley triode tube amp can bring about a spiritual >experience, You sound like a member of the Lowther army who serves under Art Dudley and Dr. Gizmo. I don't own horn speakers, but my vintage McIntosh amps so send me to heaven every night. Tubes make glorious music. >but a non-harsh solid state amp, like an older Hafler or maybe a really good >Carver would work well. I've heard some new, stunning, solid-state components recently. The components from 47 Labs in particular are quite amazing. Problem is, most of their components cost more than my car :-(. My hi-fi dealer says the best system he's ever heard consists of horn speakers (Rethm with Lowther drivers) powered by cutting-edge solid-state power (the plexiglas DNM amplifiers) with 47 Labs digital front end. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:15:26 -0400 From: Brian Cully Subject: Re: Mink Car I could never tell 'em apart until I saw 'em live, and now I can always tell. Somethin' about watching Them mouth the words. - -bjc On Sunday, October 7, 2001, at 01:44 , Capuchin wrote: > On Sun, 7 Oct 2001, Aaron Mandel wrote: >>> Unrelatedly, I can't tell which John sings what. Can anyone offer >>> pointers? >> >> i'm never positive, but at this point i can generally tell them apart: > > I have no trouble telling them apart, but I'm hard pressed to tell you > what the differences are. Flansburgh is smoother and -- err -- more > soulful, maybe? Certainly more likely to smooth out his melodies. > Whereas Linnell is a bit more nasal and harder on his consonants. They > almost never sing each other's songs, so content alone can give it away > where the vocals are uncertain (or few). > > I don't have Mink Car (I'm afraid to buy ANYTHING this close to my > birthday), but judging from Aaron's descriptions, I think his notes are > probably dead on. > > Contrast Triangle Man (Linnell) with Twisting (Flansburgh), to hear a > nice > example. > > Playing with the new free (speech, not just beer) DVD player that > supports > menus (!!!) ... > J. > -- > _______________________________________________ > > Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin > > - -- I hope I don't win / the rules say to bring a friend / I don't have any -- Haikuing for Space Ghost Contest Winner ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:53:20 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Halloween music Chris writes, >And it's >interesting that someone else mentioned Metallica's _Master of Puppets_. >I've always considered it a Halloweeny/autumnal album, but I thought that >might just be because I listened to it so much in the fall of 1986. I >think "The Thing That Should Not Be" was inspired by Lovecraft (as was >"The Call of Ktulu" on _Ride the Lightning_). It was inspired by HPL, as was "Sanitarium." >-Shriekback's "Nemesis" always sounded like a Halloween party song to me, >even disregarding the lyrics But why would you want to go and do that for? After all, it may be the only song in rock history to use the word "parthenogenesis." (Though maybe, just maybe Yes slips it in there somewhere.) >-Thomas Dolby, "She Blinded Me with Silence" What? Hey! What are you saying!? >-Bevis Frond, "Miskatonic Variations" And the even better Miskatonic Variations II. Eclipse writes, >"happy happy halloween, halloween, halloween / happy happy halloween, >silver shamrock" Oh My God!!!!!!! I remember that! I loved that movie!!!! What a great idea -- evil druids taking over Halloween masks with Uber-catchy jingles! - --Q - -- +---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+---------+ The Great Quail, K.S.C. (riverrun Discordian Society, Kibroth-hattaavah Branch) For fun with postmodern literature, New York vampires, and Fegmania, visit Sarnath: http://www.rpg.net/quail "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:03:24 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: molotov cocktail James writes, >the US needs to look at terrorism at home, by its own people, as much as it >needs to look overseas. Glad to hear you're OK. I don't want to start up another political argument; but I do want to offer a single and reasonable response.... James, the US certainly does look into its own terrorism. After all, Timothy McVeigh was *executed,* and there is a movement to label certain acts of racist inspired violence as hate-crimes. Indeed, as you probably know, our FBI comes under a lot of criticism -- much of it deserved -- for its heavy handling of "domestic terrorism," if that's the appropriate label for events such as Ruby Ridge and Waco, which I am not sure I feel comfortable with. (I would rather the term "terrorism" remain political.) Also, with respect to Eleanor, based on the simple information from her post, she seems to be assuming that the molotov cocktail was the result of a racist hate crime. (Which again, is only "terrorism" by a stretch of the definition, removing it from the political sphere to the personal.) Of course, when she says Asians, I am imagining Chinese or Koreans; she may live in an Afghani neighborhood for all I know, which would tend to reinforce her interpretation of events as springing from a warped sense of "patriotism" mixed with Islamic xenophobia. But even so, as someone pointed out, lunk-head acts like that are common to every society, and are certainly not the exclusive province of US citizens. Which is why every society should deal with it swiftly and through legal channels. - --Quail - -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.TheModernWord.com "All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event -- in the living act, the undoubted deed -- there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall?" --Herman Melville, "Moby Dick" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:50:43 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Halloween church music From: "Eclipse" : > ...a bunch of Siouxsie tunes > also come to mind, like "Spellbound", "Voodoo Dolly", > "Melt" (and probably other stuff off _A Kiss in the > Dreamhouse_)... What, and their song "Halloween" doesn't come to mind at all? It's on the same album as those first two! I don't recall anyone else mentioning it either -- if someone did, then sorry, I guess I just missed it... And Drew, who should have known all about that but is probably tired of being aesthetically pigeonholed, sez: > Man, did you guys really tell me that STARFISH and GOLD > AFTERNOON FIX were the worst Church albums? I'm trying > to listen to what the compilation calls "the best of the Church," > and five songs in I can't for the life of me see what could have > been so great about those first few albums. IMO the first 2-3 albums (the count depends on what country you're in), from which those songs were taken, were really not that good even when they were released, and they sound rather dated now. The two best ones are "Seance" and "Heyday" (tracks 6-10). And I sort of liked "Starfish," though it has a lot of filler on it. The other really bad ones (also IMO) are "Sometime Anywhere" and, of course, "Gold Afternoon Fix." John "Hate crime? We can't even stop HAT crime" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:58:55 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: molotove cocktail On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Eleanore Adams wrote: > apparently drug related crime. See what happens when they push the dirt weed. If it ain't sticky, just make brownies ;-} gSs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:08:04 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: 98% Steve content At Steve's behest I went to see "Iron Monkey," which kicked ass. Plenty of fightin', a silly plot, and a sense of humor. The guy who played Dr. Yang was easy on the eyes. The only problem I have with movies of this type is that the actors are so lightning-fast during the fight scenes that I miss a lot of it. I still like "Drunken Master" better, though. I love Jackie Chan. Am I a Philistine, Steve? Before the film came - to my immense delight - the trailer for "Fellowship of the Ring." It looks fucking awesome and I can't wait to see it. Everything just looks *right* - not necessarily like I imagined it, but still right nevertheless. The special effects look wonderful, too. The audience was dumbstruck. One guy behind me vowed solemnly, "I'm gonna see that TEN TIMES." gnat "December 19... December 19..." the gnatster p.s. On my way into the theater, an employee searched my bag. What the fuck?? Maybe they're worried that someone will start shooting up the theater during the fucking Britney Spears Pepsi commercial. I know I wanted to! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:12:21 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: RFH Friday getting pretty excited about the Pretty Things/Soft Boys show on friday. This months mojo indicated that Dave Gilmour would not only be playing with the Pretty's but also the Soft Boys... Astronomy Domine anyone ??? ;0) Ash Ra Rotten ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:33:02 -0500 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: LOTR content > Before the film came - to my immense delight - the trailer for "Fellowship > of the Ring." It looks fucking awesome and I can't wait to see it. > Everything just looks *right* - not necessarily like I imagined it, but > still right nevertheless. The special effects look wonderful, too. The > audience was dumbstruck. One guy behind me vowed solemnly, "I'm gonna see > that TEN TIMES." > > gnat "December 19... December 19..." the gnatster Despite the little nitpicking I have with story changes - Aragorn's sword, some bits in Moria, Arwen's expanded role, etc - I would agree that the trailers * feel * right, like it's so smooth that you're inside the story. Everything I've seen in the three trailers has been either just like I imagined it, or different but in a much better way ("oh, so THAT's how it's supposed to look"). It seems like Peter J. meant his statements about being true to the vibe of the story because he's a huge fan himself. I can't freaking wait. I'm so stoked about this, I think my head's going to explode. The best part may be that I'm going to take my MOM to the movie, she was an English Lit professor and read me Tolkien growing up. I can't remember being this excited about a movie in - how long? Michael "66 days 'til liftoff, and counting" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:35:48 -0500 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: GLH swapping, anyone? I'm looking to pick up a few more shows from the Grant Lee Hitchcock tour...if anyone's interested in setting up swaps, email me offlist please. Michael "Da Bears are back in town" mwells@imageworksmfg.com or braneout@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:30:44 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: Re: Molotov Cocktail These are going to be some really shitty times any way you look at it. Whenever things get like this, I automatically think of Li Po & other poets/monks complaining of the combined dangers of bandits and warlords, so I was going to mention that, then thought, oh hell, is that my response to her mentioning Asians? but no, I always think of the poor monk making his way among all the different kinds of bullies. Glad no one was hurt, hope they catch the perp. Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:22:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Halloween music More great Halloween suggestions! You Fegs have reminded me of some great songs I had forgotten, and come up with a lot that I've never even heard of. (The Arrogant Worms?) I've found MP3s of a lot of these songs and could be having a nice Halloween concert right now ... if only I hadn't left my headphones at home. D'oh! Eclipse wrote: > can't believe i (or anyone else, for that matter) didn't mention Dead > Can Dance; Actually I did, in my second email. But that's okay; it's such a good suggestion, it bears plenty of repetition! Daniel Robert Saunders wrote: > Halloween's my favourite holiday too, originally mostly because of Ray > Bradbury - what Dickens is to christmas, he is to this time of year. > Definitely seek out The Halloween Tree, Something Wicked This Way Comes, > and especially, The October Country. I'm no longer quite as big a fan as I was years ago, but I still think Bradbury's great. A story about a man rising from the dead (in _S Is for Space_, I think) really weirded me out when I was about 9 years old. And when I was a college undergrad, the only time I ever used our library's rare book room was to read his classic _Dark Carnival_. > I made this mix tape last year, > called Bob the Angry Flower's Ultimate Halloween Tape. Nice mix! I may make one myself, or perhaps an MP3 disk. It occurred to me that it might be good to have two mix tapes (or MP3 playlists), one for quiet atmospheric songs and one for rockin' party tunes. In fact you could have numerous MP3 playlists, one for every possible Halloween situation. I see plenty of scope for happy weenieism here.... The Great Quail wrote: > >-Shriekback's "Nemesis" always sounded like a Halloween party song to > >me, even disregarding the lyrics > > But why would you want to go and do that for? After all, it may be > the only song in rock history to use the word "parthenogenesis." Hey, I certainly don't want to ignore the lyrics! I just meant that the music alone would make "Nemesis" a Halloween party song. If all I had was a karaoke version, I'd still put it in my Halloween mix. > >-Thomas Dolby, "She Blinded Me with Silence" > > What? Hey! What are you saying!? Errr, I have no idea where that came from. Maybe I was listening to "Enjoy the Silence" when I typed that? But of course we all know that the author is dead and all meaning (or "meaning") comes from the reader, so it's up to you to decide what I was saying. > >"happy happy halloween, halloween, halloween / happy happy halloween, > >silver shamrock" > > Oh My God!!!!!!! I remember that! I loved that movie!!!! What movie was that? I'm assuming it's not one of your Wim Wenders films. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:23:57 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: Halloween Roky Erikson-- The music of Roky Erikson and the 13th Floor elevators is like when you take acid and go into an old cemetary at night, and in the shadows among the broken monuments you see a huge creature hunkered down with phosphoresent hieroglyphics crawling over its matted fur and it begins to rise to its full height and turns to look right into your eyes and it's Buddy Holly with a broken heart. Roky has the combo of purest scaryness and purest sweetness of any rocker from the sixties. If I've said this before I don't care. Now this topic brings out everybody's favorite goth (and Does Robyn Have Goth Fans?), so I'll mention Procol Harum, who are lots of stuff besides goth, BUT-- Outside the Gates of Cerdes Something Following Me (what's following him is "my own tombstone") Repent Walpurgis Skip Softly My Moonbeams Dead Man's Dream plus involvement in Rocky Horror Picture Show Others no one has mentioned: Specials -- Ghost Town Garland Jeffreys -- Ghost of a Chance Gary Brooker -- Ghost Train Elvis Costello -- Ghost Train Jonathan Richman -- Vampire Girl the soundtrack to Spawn Pierro Lunaire by Arnold Schoernberg [sp] lots of other stuff by Schoernberg [sp] The recorded works of Bela Bartok, especially including Bluebeard's Castle Monument by Gyorgi Ligeti (super ominous mix) 6 Bagatelles by Anton Webern just about any classical music by someone with a central European name from ca. 1910 to 1960 anything involving "tone rows" Actually a lot of Charles Ives works pretty well in a spooky/funny small town in Ohio in October Ray Bradbury kinda way (particularly "The Unanswered Question") Some Halloween lyrics of my own-- Trick or Treat One hundred and seventeen vampire women what's a poor boy to do? all of them hungry, all of them invisible to everyone but me and you you're the palest flower to ever make me swoon I'll be in your power this will be your tune three hundred chimes upon the bells of nothing tell us that it's time to begin I've got a map but I can't read it except by the light from your skin you're the palest flower to ever make me swoon I'll be in your power this will be your tune all around the world it's halloween every boy and girl knows what this means I've got some wings and you've got some tentacles but things aren't evenly matched you broke your promise when the moon went down that's when my fears hatched you're the palest flower to ever make me swoon I'll be in your power this will be your tune all around the world it's halloween every boy and girl knows what this means Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:47:44 +0000 From: "Redtailed Hawk" Subject: RE: Halloween music Can it really be that at this proprietious time of year no one has yet raised a toast to the Replacements "Rock n Roll Ghost"? Or am I just digest-retarded? Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 15:57:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Halloween for the old folks Wicked Anabella by the Kinks Jill (who else) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:56:27 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Re: Halloween music On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:14:15 Stewart C. Russell wrote: >J Richman -- "Party In The Woods Tonight". Amazingly >enough, it's a cover, I think. Oh yeah, I missed another one. If this isn't a great time to play "Zombie Jamboree" (many versions available- Harry Belafonte, Kingston Trio, assorted steel bands), I don't know what is. loveonya, susan Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:21:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: No RH% (pixies and yankees) Just listening to the Yankees game in the back ground while writing a paper defending why Alice in wonderland should remain a "classic" I heard the PIXIES "Monkey Gone to Heaven" over the PA system. It never ceases to amaze me. Herbie Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:58:23 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: 98% Steve content What an excellent subject heading! On Monday, October 15, 2001, at 11:08 AM, Natalie Jane wrote: > At Steve's behest I went to see "Iron Monkey," which kicked ass. > Plenty of fightin', a silly plot, and a sense of humor. The guy who > played Dr. Yang was easy on the eyes. The only problem I have with > movies of this type is that the actors are so lightning-fast during the > fight scenes that I miss a lot of it. Truth be told, one of the old HK film tricks is to actually speed up the film at certain points. It's pretty obvious when the two doctors first meet up on the roof. Natalie, your next assignment is A CHINESE GHOST STORY, a ghost romance with an excellent flying Taoist priest. Extra credit for also watching the anime version, which features a little dog named Solid Gold. In a pinch you can substitute THE BRIDE WITH WHITE HAIR. > I still like "Drunken Master" better, though. I love Jackie Chan. Am > I a Philistine, Steve? I think there's a special dispensation for JC fans, just because he's so good at what he does. > Before the film came - to my immense delight - the trailer for > "Fellowship of the Ring." It looks fucking awesome and I can't wait to > see it. Everything just looks *right* - not necessarily like I > imagined it, but still right nevertheless. The special effects look > wonderful, too. Strange that they're still showing the 2nd trailer in the theaters. You can see the 3rd trailer here - http://www.apple.com/trailers/newline/fellowship_of_the_ring/ My next tip for a must-see movie is MONSTERS, INC., although Ebert and the other guy couldn't say enough nice things about FROM HELL. - - Steve __________ Last week the International Monetary Fund, which has no political stake in the debate over Social Security, told the prosaic truth: "the long-term financing problems of Social Security are not large" and "could be addressed through relatively small adjustments in the program's parameters." - Paul Krugman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 00:12:45 -0400 From: shmac@ix.netcom.com (Scott Hunter McCleary) Subject: Don't talk to me about halloween music Someplace around here, I have a tape of something called "The UFO Message" - -- 20 minutes of this very strange guy talking about the end times over a bed of Moog noodling. It's unintentionally funny, but it still half creeps me out; the guy's sincerety is a little unnerving, even when describing how the migratory patterns of squirrels foretells the end of days. If I can dig it out I'll mp3 it and put it up someplace for you all. I got it off a radio show that used to air Sat/Sun overnights on DC's Pacifica station. It was hosted by a guy named Seth (Morris, I think), who had an incredible collection of comedy/weird recordings. As I recall, he got married and moved to Portland OR sometime in the late 80s -- any of our Portland Fegs ever hear of him? I have often wondered if he ever surfaced on the radio out there. Isn't one of our number somehow related to Alan Freed? I seem to recall Seth's wife was too -- maybe he's closer than I think.... On a more Robyn-related note, turned on "Inside the Actors Studio" last night and lo and behold, who should be the guest on their 100th show but G-E-N-E H-A-youknowwhat himself. And punctuating the show was a L'Oreal ad featuring -- you guessed it -- Andi Macdowell. What scares me most is setting you free, Scott ========= Scott Hunter McCleary Alexandria, VA 22312 shmac@prodigaldog.com www.prodigaldog.com www.mp3.com/nairobi3/ www.1480kHz.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:16:00 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Whatever happened to The Quigmans? [0% RH] I'm still a fan of The Quigmans cartoons, but I was surprised to see that http://www.quigmans.com/ had mutated into hate site by the cartoonist's former collaborator, Mike Stanfill. Is this an elaborate joke, or has Buddy Hickerson turned evil? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:18:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: goths and Robyn (was Re: Halloween) On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, ross taylor wrote: > Now this topic brings out everybody's favorite > goth (and Does Robyn Have Goth Fans?), Funny you should ask! I just saw this on a local goth/industrial club's mailing list (during a discussion of the radio station WHFS): "I'll check it out! WHF$ sold out 16 years ago, so it is effectively one generation removed from any respectability it once had. I credit Robyn Hitchcock with the HFFestival in the those few years he graced DC with his august presence." So there you go. As for me, I don't consider myself a goth ... but then again, it's well established that denying you're a goth is just goth as fuck (GAF). - --Chris np: yelworC, "Sacred City" ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #395 ********************************