From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #390 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, October 10 2001 Volume 10 : Number 390 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: what I don't understand ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Cat name ["Maximilian Lang" ] actress/art redux ["Walker, Charles" ] Overshot lasagna breeze [Carole Reichstein ] Re: Cat name [Eb ] "Painted From Memory" question.. [Carole Reichstein ] new Bucketful of Brains with Soft Boys track [Don Share ] Re: "Painted From Memory" question.. [John Barrington Jones ] PS- I love you [Viv Lyon ] There's not one in Berkeley? ["Chris Franz" ] Re: There's not one in Berkeley? [Capuchin ] Re: what I don't understand [Jeff Dwarf ] yon mog [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Cat name [steve ] Re: Cat Names ["Brian Hoare" ] Re: PS- I love you ["J. Brown" ] Re: "Painted From Memory" question.. [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Wizardry ["Viola Rockiss" ] Re: "Painted From Memory" question.. [Brian ] re: cat names [Brian ] Re: There's not one in Berkeley? [strange little woj ] the dreaded cat thread [strange little woj ] Re: Wizardry [The Great Quail ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 18:01:11 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: what I don't understand >From: lj lindhurst >Reply-To: lj lindhurst >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: what I don't understand >Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:29:20 -0400 > >Why are there so many commercials with people being mean to each >other about soup??? >-- DAMN IT! Because soup is good food! GOT IT! mAX :-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 18:07:26 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Cat name We named our second cat Ella only to end up calling her Skitty or Babu or Scrappy or Crazy or Mallowmar or...(but mainly Skitty). They tend to teach you the name they want after you learn their demeanor. Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 15:12:00 -0700 From: "Walker, Charles" Subject: actress/art redux Well, in my opinion, you really can't condemn an entire art-form (or craft) based on a few selective examples. That would be like judging music as an art-form overall by simply listening to the worst of the New Age genre, or writing as an art by just reading some crappy article in a small town newspaper or one of my emails. chas in LA replies: i know i'll get nailed for this, but i generally dont consider music to be art. sound can be art, hmm...i could go on explaining that but i feel that i have leaked enough info as it is. it has to do with the fact that the first classes on rock and roll were taught in sociology departments among a thousand other thoughts. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 15:27:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: Overshot lasagna breeze chas in LA replies: the first RH concert i saw was on the Queen Elvis tour. i got there for sound check and robyn's then girl strolled by me [RH was on stage in sweat pants and flip flops running thru the veins of the queen Sweat pants and flip flops? Surely you jest! And I thought his acid-washed denim outfit (circa 1991) was bad. I really can't think of worse footwear for men. Even "Tevas" are better than flip flops (we used to call them "thongs" back in the day, but apparently no one calls them that anymore). ..what I wouldn't give for a pair of headphones and a tape of "Globe of Frogs" right now. Oh, to go back in time and see the Egyptians on tour again as an impressionable, swoony 18 year old. Carole ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 15:56:34 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Cat name >>Besides Merlin and >>Gandalf, what other wizards are there? Thomas Edison. Don Herbert. John Wooden. Eb, who saw a very good Sigur Ros show on Saturday and an *excellent* Midnight Oil show last night (my first time seeing both bands) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 16:50:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Carole Reichstein Subject: "Painted From Memory" question.. I just finished my latest trashy read, "Rebel Heart" by Bebe Buell. It isn't a very good book, but there *are* some juicy parts, mostly having to do with her tempestuous relationship with Elvis Costello. I haven't listened to his music for ages and don't know what to buy. So I thought I'd dip my pole into the Fegwaters again. Does anybody have "Painted from Memory," that Burt Bacharach collaboration? What do you think about it? Or should I just go buy "The Very Best of Elvis Costello?" If it helps any, I like his sad, melancholy stuff ("Alison," "Shipbuilding," "Almost Blue," "New Lace Sleeves," etc) better than his straight-out rock and roll stuff, however good it may be ("What's so Funny.." is an example). Gnat and Viv...I know you're EC fans, so any advice is welcome! Carole (why be discriminating when you can check out books for free?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 19:53:29 -0400 From: "bibi gellert" Subject: re: cat names I'm afraid "bitchy calico" is redundant- I have one named Ngaire. James will know what she's named after, won't you? Bibi G - --- bibigellert@earthlink.net - --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 16:56:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Share Subject: new Bucketful of Brains with Soft Boys track Hi, gang. Just read an e-mail from Terry Hermon of Bucketfull of Brains, posted on the audities list, in which he says the CD with the forthcoming issue will contain a rare and exclusive track from the Soft Boys. Expected to ship before the end of the month. Anyone know what this treat'll be? - Lurker Don Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 17:02:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: actress/art redux On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Walker, Charles wrote: > i know i'll get nailed for this, but i generally dont consider music > to be art. sound can be art, hmm...i could go on explaining that but i > feel that i have leaked enough info as it is. it has to do with the > fact that the first classes on rock and roll were taught in sociology > departments among a thousand other thoughts. Well, I've not ranted on this topic in quite a while, so I thought I'd dish out how art works in My World. Art is merely the perfection of a craft to the point of transcendence. That is to say, when you have honed your craft to a point where the craft is secondary to the personal expression embodied in the work, then you can create a work of art (as opposed to a work of craft). I can go melt some crayons and parrafin and dip some candles in my kitchen right now... but they would not be works of art. Surely candle-making is a craft and certainly there are candle makers capable of imbuing their candles with more than just an ability to burn long or even look beautiful; an ability to create candles that evoke hope and kindness or confusion and disdain. Yet they are still candles and that artist is a candle-maker. I may become a candle-maker, but I'd be along way from being an artist. Music writing and playing are surely crafts and some pieces of music are works of art and some performances are works of art. (Now, music is interesting because a piece of music that is not artfully written can be artfully played and the subsequent performance can be an artistic work and the reverse -- that an artfully written piece of music can be played technically well, but fail to express the art of the piece -- is possible as well. Is there a special category for music artfully written and performed? Or are the two entirely separate?) But merely writing or playing music does not make one an artist. One's craft must first be perfected. That said, you might understand now why no painting is art, nor any piece of music or architecture. An art is a skill and a work of art is the product of that skill. But art is carpentry and painting and programming and dancing. Art is not any piece of furniture or painting or program or dance. There's more in there, but I have errands to run. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 17:28:20 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: "Painted From Memory" question.. Carole - Gnat and Viv are not the only Elvis freaks in Stumptown. I, too, think that Elvis is King! If you are into the melancholy Costello, I recommend - yea, even demand - that you go pick up a copy of Imperial Bedroom. That is the most consistently melancholy album in his repertoire. Perfect for this Portland grayness. =jbj= On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Carole Reichstein wrote: > I just finished my latest trashy read, "Rebel Heart" by Bebe Buell. It > isn't a very good book, but there *are* some juicy parts, mostly having to > do with her tempestuous relationship with Elvis Costello. I haven't > listened to his music for ages and don't know what to buy. So I thought > I'd dip my pole into the Fegwaters again. Does anybody have "Painted from > Memory," that Burt Bacharach collaboration? What do you think about it? Or > should I just go buy "The Very Best of Elvis Costello?" If it helps any, > I like his sad, melancholy stuff ("Alison," "Shipbuilding," "Almost > Blue," "New Lace Sleeves," etc) better than his straight-out rock and roll > stuff, however good it may be ("What's so Funny.." is an example). > > Gnat and Viv...I know you're EC fans, so any advice is welcome! > > Carole (why be discriminating when you can check out books for free?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 17:33:35 -0700 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: RE: Cat names >From: Brian >Subject: Cat name > >Well, I got a new cat! A maine coon kitten like I was >looking for. He's 3 and 1/2 months old, silver and white. >With luck he'll reach 25lbs. His father who isn't full >grown is 18lbs, and his full grown grandfather is 25lbs! >Thanks to all who sent emails of help earlier, even if I >didn't respond then. Sounds like an excellent cat. The couple Maine Coon cats I've known are very mellow, and large. My girlfriend's parents are caretakers of Wolfgang/Wolfie/Woofie/Doofus, who weighs in at around 20 lbs, and has a voice deeper than Barry White. I just acquired some cats myself; a neighborhood stray had a litter, and brought them into my garage. The mother, whom I've named Seuss because of her nearly perfect Dr. Seuss-style mustache (she's a tuxedo-style cat, and the white of the mustache is the only white on her face - *truly* ridiculous looking), is feral, and decidedly not human-friendly. Her five kittens, two of which I'm keeping, are *very* friendly and well-socialized. Their names are: Meuss (supposed to rhyme with "Moose" though I know the proper German pronunciation wouldn't....) - is the largest of the litter, and is a clown-like Holstein pattern with a white-tipped tail. His other names ('cos a cat can't have just one) are Frunobulax (from a Zappa song) and Poster Nutbag (from a Phish song, and chosen because his, er, equipment is blaringly white, while the fur all around it is black). His super-powers are being able to sleep through anything, and being able to run into things and fall down; also Being Large. Malkovich - is a Tuxedo-style, who looks very much like his mother. He has a very intent, intense stare, and the lowest voice of the batch. His super-power is his Awesome, Walking-on-Hind-Feet Pounce. Wilhelm - is the smallest of the lot, and is another Holstein, though not as clown-like as Meuss. The name comes from a George Carlin bit about "Klaus sends Wilhelm his love" or something like that. This kitten's demeanor reminded my girlfriend of her cat Klaus, who has "issues" - a Very Small Brain and a Very Clingy/Needy Personality among them - so he was dubbed Wilhelm. His super-power is Being Able to Cling Onto a Sweater Even While Fast Asleep. Dark Matter (aka F-117 or SR-71) - is all black. And very stealthy. His super-powers are Stealthiness, and Carrying Things In His Mouth. Chewbacca (Chewie) - is a dark toirtoiseshell, and the only girl of the litter. Possibly the friendliest. Her super-powers are Jumping (and Not Caring That it's Painful When You Climb Someone's Leg Using Your Claws), Being Able to Sneak In the Screen Door as it's Closing, and the Frightful Four Feet of Claws. I don't suppose all that helps you much in search of a name for YOUR cat, but good luck anyway. da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:22:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: PS- I love you On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, John Barrington Jones wrote: > If you are into the melancholy Costello, I recommend - yea, even demand - > that you go pick up a copy of Imperial Bedroom. That is the most > consistently melancholy album in his repertoire. I too would recommend Imperial Bedroom, but I gotta disagree with your characterization of it as "consistently melancholy." I think it's his most optimistically romantic album, and his most pop-driven as well. It was written right after he got together with Cait, wasn't it? It sure sounds like the work of a man obsessed by love. > Perfect for this Portland grayness. Well, I don't know what Portland you were in today, but in MY Portland it was sunny and beautiful. Made concentrating on "livery of seisin" and other archaic property rights nigh impossible. Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:39:11 -0700 From: "Chris Franz" Subject: There's not one in Berkeley? My grandfather just sent an email to me and my cousins talking about the following site: http://www.walkforcapitalism.org/ I'm afraid he was serious. This is a truly strange reaction to the events of last month. Check out the art page -- the capitalist poetry is hilarious! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 21:29:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: There's not one in Berkeley? On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Chris Franz wrote: > My grandfather just sent an email to me and my cousins talking about the > following site: > http://www.walkforcapitalism.org/ The site www.walkforcapitalism.org is running Apache/1.3.14 Ben-SSL/1.41 (FreeBSD) mod_throttle/2.11 mod_perl/1.24_01 PHP/4.0.3pl1 FrontPage/4.0.4.3 rus/PL30.0 on FreeBSD. Gee, why don't those big Capitalist boosters stop using that commie software? Oh, wait, it's because cooperation produces better results than self-intersted competition. Right. Now why are they walking again? So who's going to put up the www.runfromcapitalism.org site? J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:46:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: what I don't understand lj lindhurst wrote: > Why are there so many commercials with people being mean to each > other about soup??? i don't know, but it still makes more sense than selling processed cheese using small children with "Let's Get It On" as the soundtrack. Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 18:52:03 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: yon mog >>To me he looks like he's going to be a wizard. Besides Merlin and >>Gandalf, what other wizards are there? Rincewind! James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 01:09:37 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Cat name > I know Gandalf and Merlin are way over used, but there must be other > wizard names available! Sparrowhawk Corwin (and lots of the other Amber characters) Belgarath Milamber Dallwyn Metran Loren Slivercloak Teyrnon The Grey Mouser Amairgen Whitebranch Galadan Rincewind Chrestomanci Howl Come on Fegs, where are all the fantasy readers? And these have nothing to do with wizards, but they're kinda wacky - http://www.adherents.com/adh_sf.html http://www.citizenlunchbox.com/monkey/famous.html - - Steve __________ My solution to the Microsoft problem? Nationalize Windows and let Mr. Bill keep the rest. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 07:05:09 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Re: Cat Names >To me he looks like he's going to be a wizard. Besides Merlin and >Gandalf, what other wizards are there? > Vdindmvinen. He is one of the main characters in the Finnish epic Kalevala. Quite like Gandalf in character or even a mortal Odin, he is often "Steady old Vainamoinen" and portrayed as old and wise. His magic comes from words and songs. I heartily recommend reading Kalevala to those with an interest in Norse sagas, it has a distinct feel (more magical than many hero stories) but it covers the familiar ground of heros in a dark, cold world. There are a number of translations on the net and a couple in book form. I have been told that one of the book translations has a grating forced metre, but without access to my bookshelf (being at work)I cant recommend the correct one to get. Brian _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 00:19:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: PS- I love you On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Viv Lyon wrote: > On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, John Barrington Jones wrote: > > > If you are into the melancholy Costello, I recommend - yea, even demand - > > that you go pick up a copy of Imperial Bedroom. That is the most > > consistently melancholy album in his repertoire. > > I too would recommend Imperial Bedroom, but I gotta disagree with your > characterization of it as "consistently melancholy." I think it's his most > optimistically romantic album, and his most pop-driven as well. It was > written right after he got together with Cait, wasn't it? It sure sounds > like the work of a man obsessed by love. No he didnt hook upo with Cait until 1985 when he produced the Pogues "Run Sodomy and the Lash" and it was "King of America" that followed getting married to her. I think He was back with his first wife or maybe with Bebe at the time of "Imerial Bedroom". I heartly second JBJ's suggestion of Imperial Bedroom. Painted From Memory is a fine album but but if you hate bacharach i'd pass. Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "Life boring when you no can die" -Solomon Grundy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:20:33 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: "Painted From Memory" question.. - -- Carole Reichstein is rumored to have mumbled on Dienstag, 9. Oktober 2001 16:50 Uhr -0700 regarding "Painted From Memory" question..: > Does anybody have "Painted from > Memory," that Burt Bacharach collaboration? What do you think about it? It's one of my favorite albums. Very sad, though... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ Winter is coming. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:09:34 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: P-P-S-I-L-O-V-E-Y-O-U... P-P-S-I-L-O-V-E-Y-O-U Now you KNOW I couldn't resist this conversation! >> Does anybody have "Painted from >> Memory," that Burt Bacharach collaboration? What do you think about it? > >It's one of my favorite albums. Very sad, though... ++"Painted From Memory" can RIP you up! It was a good year before I could listen to this record without bursting into tears at least once. Still happens sometimes, more often than not. Those songs really GET to you. (reminds me of Khan Junior's mom on "King of the Hill" explaining PMS to her: "Watch Titanic on the right day and it will BLOW YOU AWAY!") ++From what I understand--and granted, I could be wrong--"Goodbye Cruel World" is all about his marriage breaking up. Of course most people don't like this record for some reason (perhaps the appearance of Darryl Hall on the first track is off-putting-?)... it's not necessarily melancholy in tone but the lyrics are definitely leaning toward the darker, more personal stuff. (hmm...think I'll listen to this tonight at ye olde studio) ++Bebe Buell was the Rock and Roll SLUT EXTRAORDINAIRE of the 70s and 80s, and I say that with all the admiration it deserves! Somewhere I read that the "PS I Love You" at the end of "Imperial Bedroom" is directed at her-? The "PS" is somehow her initials-? Wish I knew more about this. Instead I am giving you yet another half-assed half-bit of unreliable information. (hey Eb, go ask your good buds on the EC List if this is true!) ++Speaking of the EC List, newcomers to the fegs list should be informed that we have been waging war with them for years and will someday kick their rock-crit asses to kingdom come and back. And those Chalkhills wankers, too! And anyone who likes the Dead, they're just gay. But not Oasis. Not my dear sweet Gallagher boys. (on a personal note, I teach Web Design for Monkeys at local CUNY--I was teaching my IDIOT students how to make a JPEG and for a sample was using a lovely photo of Liam. Not a single student in two whole classes could tell me who he was!!! How OLD and WHITE am I???) ++but back to EC: For some consistently melancholy EC, pick up "Deep Dead Blue", which is now available in the US (bought mine a few years back as import-only from Doug, and it is one of my prize possessions!). It's EC and Bill Frisell on guitar, recorded live in Germany... very quiet, very moody, and well worth every penny. When he does "Poor Napoleon" it never fails to give me chills. ++Oh, one more thing: For a really BORING read, pick up "The Big Wheel" by ex-Attraction Bruce Thomas. It's all about being on the road with the Attractions in the early 80's, but really a lot of it is about Thomas' super-uninteresting career as a bassist. Yeah yeah. Who cares. To quote Elvis, "Why is it always the boring member of the band who decides to write the book?!" alright. enough. back to tormenting a small green can opener with a cork. lj - -- =============================== LJ Lindhurst White Rabbit Graphic Design NYC ljl@w-rabbit.com http://www.w-rabbit.com =============================== "I don't care if I'm right or wrong Or if my typewriter can spell" -Elvis Costello ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:47:53 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: P-P-S-I-L-O-V-E-Y-O-U... P-P-S-I-L-O-V-E-Y-O-U On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, lj lindhurst wrote: > (on a personal note, I teach Web Design for Monkeys at local CUNY--I > was teaching my IDIOT students how to make a JPEG and for a sample > was using a lovely photo of Liam. Not a single student in two whole > classes could tell me who he was!!! And who was he? :) > When he does "Poor Napoleon" it never fails to give me chills. Mmm, that was the last number I ever heard the Attractions play. Glastonbury 1987 IIRC. Great bass guitar by: > ++Oh, one more thing: For a really BORING read, pick up "The Big > Wheel" by ex-Attraction Bruce Thomas. It's all about being on the > road with the Attractions in the early 80's, but really a lot of it > is about Thomas' super-uninteresting career as a bassist. Yeah yeah. > Who cares. To quote Elvis, "Why is it always the boring member of > the band who decides to write the book?!" Sounds fabulous! He was with Quiver, right? Maybe there will be some really interesting Gavin and Ian Sutherland stories? Did they ever meet Rod the Mod? Where can I borrow a copy? - - Mike 'play "Shabby Doll" one more time' Godwin PS I still say Bruce and Pete aren't related. Does Bruce mention this anywhere? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:08:08 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Oh darn! Maximilian Lang wrote: > > While I don't enjoy or revel in bad things happening to people, I will not > miss this man should he stop broadcasting. oh dear, now I have something in common with RL. My left ear is pretty much useless. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:53:58 +0000 From: "Viola Rockiss" Subject: Wizardry Brian: >To me he looks like he's going to be a wizard. Besides Merlin and >Gandalf, what other wizards are there? Well, I assume you mean wizard not socerer, so Klingsor wouldn't do;-). Merlin had some aliases, such as Emrys and Ambrose. Taliesien is always a goody. Gwydion. Tireseis. Diotoma. Orpheus. Virgil was thought to be a wizard in the Middle Ages. St Albert Magnus, St Thomas Aquinas and Roger Bacon were all considered wizards in legend, as were the Islamic Averoes and Avincinna(the line tween thinker and magician being thin at that time in the popular imagination.) John Dee is a possibility--plus a score of other Renn/Baroque alchemists, scholars and philosphers. Plus there were many wonderworking Celtic saints past listing. Godwin: >Taliesin was a bard, not a wizard. Its arguable whether the line was that clear between the two at, lets say, the time between the composing of the Goddadin and and the writing down of the Red Book of Hengist. Like with Orpheus and Virgil, legends grew up around him because of a popular conception of the magical power of music and poetry. If Orpheus, thru his music, could uproot trees and tame animals...what would you call that? Ed: >yes, I talked my wife into Thurston, when she was lobbying for >Oberon)). Woman -always- lobby for Oberon. -All- wonderful male beasts should be called Oberon:-) Kay, so -- anyone ever play cards with Doc while eating at Mom's? We are all worms, but I do believe that I am a glow-worm. Winston Churchill _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:19:12 -0400 From: Brian Subject: Re: "Painted From Memory" question.. >should I just go buy "The Very Best of Elvis Costello?" If it helps any, >I like his sad, melancholy stuff ("Alison," "Shipbuilding," "Almost >Blue," "New Lace Sleeves," etc) better than his straight-out rock and roll >stuff, however good it may be ("What's so Funny.." is an example). I don't have much E.C., but I do have Trust from 1981 and it is a classic! Virtually flawless and powerful in my opinion. Ranks up there with Squeeze's East Side Story (also from 1981 co-produced by E.C.). Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:23:02 -0400 From: Brian Subject: re: cat names At Tuesday, 9 October 2001, "bibi gellert" wrote: >I'm afraid "bitchy calico" is redundant- I have one named >Ngaire. James will know what she's named after, won't you? > >Bibi G > Some of these names are great! ;) I might consider "bitchy calico" but this doesn't describe him to well. BA Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:35:24 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: Re: There's not one in Berkeley? when we last left our heroes, Capuchin exclaimed: >The site www.walkforcapitalism.org is running Apache/1.3.14 Ben-SSL/1.41 >(FreeBSD) mod_throttle/2.11 mod_perl/1.24_01 PHP/4.0.3pl1 >FrontPage/4.0.4.3 rus/PL30.0 on FreeBSD. > >Gee, why don't those big Capitalist boosters stop using that commie >software? gee, jeme, maybe because free software maximizes profits? ;) +w ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:34:53 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: the dreaded cat thread when we last left our heroes, Christopher Gross exclaimed: >But of course the best pet name of all was discovered by Steven Wright, >who named his dog Stay. "C'mere, Stay!" my dad and his college roommates had a dog named dammit for pretty much the same reason. also sprach "bibi gellert" : >I'm afraid "bitchy calico" is redundant- I have one named >Ngaire. ours is named puck, allegedly for her prediliction to run and slide into walls when a kitten. though her caliconess (you'll forgive me if i don't know the proper cat fanciers' wording) is questionable in my mind since the colors are not all mixed up. she's mostly white with black and tan patches on her back and sides. her demeanor is certainly calico though. our other cat, an orange tabby, is tam lin. mostly, though, we just call him dumbass and el doofe. he's the whiniest cat i've ever known and, despite being rather fluid and sleek, rather clumsy for a cat. he's fallen into the toliet at least once and regularly misfires his jumps onto window sills and tables. hmmm. woj, one tori show down, three to go ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:46:46 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Wizardry Kay kwips, >Well, I assume you mean wizard not socerer, so Klingsor wouldn't do;-). Hey, Klingsor would be a great name for a cat! Especially if you get the little bastard neutered! Oi, how could I pass up a Wagner joke? - --Quail PS: Yeah, LJ, who *is* Liam Gallagher anyway? Isn't he the guy who smashes all those watermelons? ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #390 ********************************