From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #388 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, October 8 2001 Volume 10 : Number 388 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: we have a tree ... largo/seattle [Mike Swedene ] Re: Trick to get [Eels] CDs [not necessarily] cheap[er not] in Canada ["S] Re: Mink Car ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Cant Explain Upside Down ["Viola Rockiss" ] the return of the Apples in Stereo ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: it's that time again! [HAL ] Re: it's that time again! [John Barrington Jones ] Re: it's that time again! [HAL ] Re: it's that time again! ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Howdy! I hear that it's... [The Great Quail ] Re: it's that time again! [GSS ] questionable songs reprise & random notes ["ross taylor" ] RE: Howdy! I hear that it's... [GSS ] Re: random notes (some RH content) ["Mike Wells" ] Re: litten notes [GSS ] RE: Howdy! I hear that it's... ["Thomas, Ferris" ] RE: Howdy! I hear that it's... ["Thomas, Ferris" ] Re: Howdy! I hear that it's... [Viv Lyon ] Re: Howdy! I hear that it's... [strange little woj ] Speakers [Jay Lyall ] Re: Speakers ["lucifersam" ] Oh darn! ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Speakers ["JH3" ] Re: it's war [] Credit-where-due Dept. [bayard ] Re: Speakers [steve ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 23:42:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Re: we have a tree ... largo/seattle I was going to use FUJI 80 Minute cdrs. Any covers for this yet? Curious and waiting.... Mike - --- bayard wrote: > "I would suggest that any branches get the 80min/740 > (I > can't remember what the longer one is) == Bayard did > have some problem > with this on this set of disks. *AND* we did the > last time too --- so > just buy the longer ones if you're a branch. " > > actually, the ones i sent you, jill, are all 74 min. > so the lowest common > demoninator should work for this whole tree. > > *hugs* for jill > > =b > > -- > 'I wish it need not have happened in my time,' said > Frodo. > 'So do I,' said Gandalf, 'and so do all who live to > see such times. > But that is not for them to decide. All we have to > decide is what to > do with the time that is given us.' NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:08:15 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Trick to get [Eels] CDs [not necessarily] cheap[er not] in Canada Is Souljacker really only a single CD in the US? Do you really not get the other CD with "I Write The B-Sides"? Stewart (suffering from too much good media; Mercury Rev playing live, Souljacker, Jeff Mangum Live at Jittery Joe's, Amelie & Andy Singer's CARtoons, all in one weekend...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:24:08 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Mink Car Aaron Mandel wrote: > > i thought State Songs blew away both Mono Puff albums I find it a little precious, but amusing nonetheless. Still waiting for Mink Car, 'cos it hasn't got a UK release yet. What I was amazed to find out (so amazed, I let out a very loud squeak whilst waiting for Mercury Rev to come on at The Barrowlands) is that TMBG are playing the UK in November. I've got my tickets... Stewart now avoiding: Nicolai Dunger, support for Mercury Rev. He really sucked; imagine Tiny Tim crossed with Van Morrison singing Dylan. He ruined Syd's "Late Night" for me. He was so terrible, we didn't know where to look. Possibly even worse than Acacia, who supported Bjork (sorry about the accent, the digest would eat it) some time ago. Argh. At least Acacia were amusingly bad. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:10:16 +0000 From: "Viola Rockiss" Subject: Cant Explain Upside Down Nup: >Can sum1 please point me to the lyrics of 'Unsettled' and explain them? Lyrics at Bayard's essential site: http://www.bitmine.net/~fegmaniax/lyrics/song.cgi?unsettled Not sure these lyrics can be explained, only experienced. This is one of my favorite Robyn songs. Its utter rock n roll in a perfect line of succession fromthe Whos "Cant Explain" to the VUs "What Goes On." Its for when youre so hot its like your fucking the world and everything in it. Sexuality has swollowed everything whole. Which dosnt exactly lend itself to fluent articulation. Whatever it is thats set you off, its pre-verbal, raw and polymorphous perverse. And Robyn's voice is sharp and bitter yet--get how his voice seethes thru "everything bbbrrreeaaattthhhes for yyyououuu." The man completely sexualized. This is what surrealism is made for. Pure elemental power too explosive for the niceties of self-consiousness. James: PS - anyone else think it a strange coincidence that all four Beatles >married women connected in some way to the visual arts - Ringo an actress, >George an actress/model, Paul a photographer, and John an artist? Yes, and of the 4, it could be said that Ringo's and then George's wives were the most passive about it(more eye-candy than actresses), that Linda with her machine was more creatively active but that Yoko, who was the only one who was really capable of conceptual thought, was the most creatively active. Which reflects back in an interesting way on their mates. Ive enjoyed the Yoko thread cause Id forgotten the bit bout John meeting her while doing herladder piece. Like that:-). - --------------- Yeah Gene! Go Gene! Yaeh Yeah Yeah!!! BTW--I -have- committed;-) - --------------- Kay, not knowing what to say bout todays events _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:00:29 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: the return of the Apples in Stereo I went to work out early yesterday evening, and wondered why the TV's at the gym were tuned to 60 Minutes and not the usual sports/sitcom crap. Then came the announcement that the US had bombed Afghanistan. "Oh, shit!" I said out loud, as a woman simultaneously almost brained me with a five point weight (accidentally, I hope). I explained that I was not saying "shit" to her. Being free from a TV at home enabled me to plunge myself back into trivia, as I prepared to see the Apples in Stereo for the first time in over two years. They were playing at lovely and scenic Satyricon, which is normally a punk club, and the Minders were opening up. There's not much to say about the Minders that I haven't said before. Viv and I exchanged "Where were you on Sept. 11?" stories with "Martin Leper" (he was in a motel in Pittsburgh) before the show. I noticed that Martyn is the only living being besides myself to own an S.D. Curlee bass, a 40-lb monstrosity that I destroyed by leaning it against the wall for too long, thus allowing the neck to bend under its own enormous weight. During the show, I thought of three things it would be unwise to say to Martyn: 1. "Hey, you're wearing your dork glasses tonight!" 2. "Do you fake your accent like Bob Pollard?" 3. "So what happened to that skinny chick bassist of yours?" After the Minders' set, I gave a tinfoil Bast (in a red robe, with a gold earring, made from airplane breakfast foil) to Hilarie Sidney, the Apples' drummer. The Apples still keep a Thoth on their van dashboard. The club rapidly grew packed, and the Apples, after an enormous amount of tweaking, finally started playing. (Maybe studio perfectionists just shouldn't play live.) After all that tweaking, the vocals were still inaudible and Robert Schneider screamed himself hoarse trying to be heard. Oh man, is he a geek. He just exudes geekdom from every pore. But he's a *happy* geek - he's doing what he loves to do - and that really shows. He did his usual hilarious "guitar faces," with his tongue sticking out, and I was vaguely intrigued by the progress of the sweat stain down the front of his shirt. Here's what the Apples were thinking during the show: The bassist: That hot chick Viv has left, so I guess I'll smile at Natalie instead. The keyboardist: Natalie just smiled at me because I'm so cute, so I'll give her a cursory smirk in return. The guitarist: I'm smiling because I'm fucking the chick from Dressy Bessy! Hilarie: I'm smiling because I'm fucking the guy from the Apples in Stereo! Robert: Man, my Star Wars underpants are so comfy, it just makes me smile. (No shit, Robert wears Star Wars underwear - I saw them when he was bending over during the sound check. I nearly died laughing.) Anyway, they played some of my favorite songs like "Go" and "The Rainbow" and freakin' "Tidal Wave," which totally rocked my world. In fact, I really shouldn't have bothered working out, because I danced more at this show than any other show this year, besides the Soft Boys. The Apples may be fluffy, but they're a hell of a lot of fun. Afterwards I gave Robert a tinfoil Hermes (his hat fell off! Wah!) and a sticker from KSCL, the Centenary College radio station, where Robert used to work. (My friend Bryan teaches English at Centenary.) We talked about the college for a couple of minutes. I didn't get the frequent "shoulder touches" like I did before, but he did shake my hand at least three or four times, and, like last time, introduced himself even though I had greeted him by name. What a geek. :) Now I am deaf, and tired, and must try to work. n. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:18:58 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: it's that time again! >And I think you're a total >shit for doing what you did. > >And yeah, because of what you've done in the past, I already thought you >were a shit. Oh, darn it! I missed the opening of Namecalling Season again! How come no one told me? Alright, alright, alright. My turn. My turn. Jeme, you're a big fat weenie-doodle stupid-head. And those suspenders you wear are totally two decades ago. And your feet smell like dog poop burritos covered in stinky goat-cheese. I love third grade. Can I go tinkle now? Next! Jason "Metallica RAWKS!" Thornton ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:16:20 -0600 From: HAL Subject: Re: it's that time again! a sycophant attempted witticism on his leader's behalf: > your feet smell like dog poop burritos covered in stinky > goat-cheese > I love third grade. It shows - > Can I go tinkle now? Please...feel free to piss off. /hal, sinking to your level ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:26:26 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: it's that time again! On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, HAL wrote: > > Can I go tinkle now? > > Please...feel free to piss off. bua ha ha ha ha ha this is so much fun. fuck the whole lot of you! =jbj= p.s. gnat - thanks for the apples in stereo review! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:34:44 -0600 From: HAL Subject: Re: it's that time again! =jbj= wrote: > this is so much fun. > > fuck the whole lot of you! Yeah..! YEAH!! Fuck everybody and everything! When's that fucker Robyn Hitchcock gonna release something so we can quit backstabbing each other and tear that eccentric British fuckface a new asshole?! /hal, liking this new approach! ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 10:42:33 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: it's that time again! At 11:16 AM 10/8/2001 -0600, HAL wrote: >a sycophant attempted witticism on his leader's behalf: Ah, the "bigger," "better" man continues his litany of insults and baseless assertions. How utterly impressive. Insults, insults, insults. > > your feet smell like dog poop burritos covered in stinky > > goat-cheese > > > I love third grade. > >It shows - The subtly of satire escapes thee. Are you going to call me "shitty" now, the way you did to Jason Brown in your "apology" to Eb? C'mon Hal. Let's see another wonderful example of your maturity and level-headedness. > > Can I go tinkle now? > >Please...feel free to piss off. How very clever and eloquent. Please continue, Hal. You've doing such a terrific job. I don't even have to try. >/hal, sinking to your level Ummm... I do believe you must have missed the point of my previous mail - I was "sinking" to the "level" displayed by you and Sir Jeme. For you to suggest that you are "sinking" to your own level is rather ironic, wouldn't you say? Oh, wait, the blatantly obvious always fails to escape you. By the way, I was addressing Jeme, not you, in that mail. But, as everyone can clearly see, you're only on this list to engage in flamewars. Does it make you feel like a "real live man" to play the internet bully? Just curious. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 01:46:45 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: Howdy! I hear that it's... ...a lot more peaceful around here now! Heh heh. Anyway, I'm back, for better or for worse. - --Quail, who has been listening the sweet bejeezus out of the new Dylan CD ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:58:59 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Re: it's that time again! > and tear that eccentric British fuckface a new asshole?! no shit,, you klozit Poison fan. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:06:57 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: questionable songs reprise & random notes Re. the novel writing thing, this past weekend I drove 6 hours west (or it shoulda been) to meet an old friend at a Holiday Inn 6 hours east of him so we could compare manuscripts for the weekend. Remember this ten years from now when you still haven't heard anything of either of us. Actually it was more like 10 hours because of how stuck I got in the traffic from the truck of Navy rockets that overturned on I-70 Friday. After sitting on a ramp for ages & having a super bladder crisis I got onto some back roads & got just as stuck there, but got to see some major Americana. First there was a tree in a yard that had a 12-ft.wide wasps nest made of grey sturdy stuff, wood or something, covered with foot or more long black wasps which were also on the yard & parked cars. That was when I realized small towns are going in for Halloween decorating early this year. Lots of elaborate spooky stuff and lots of flags. At least one porch had the appearance of having several skeletons waving US flags. I think the irony was unintentional. Gotta be a poem in it somewhere. Or not. Meanwhile I was listening (too late) to the radio see what was up. NPR had a big IMO really overblown piece about the guy in FLA who caught anthrax, and at the end -- yup, Andy Metcalf's guitar squeal from the Gang of Four song. So there's my subject line, & the wasps were supposed to give Robyn relevance. In the process I crossed over Little Antietam creek & thought of Chris Gross' casualty comparisons. Somebody on the Procol list suggested Bin Laden be given, if caught, a sex change operation. I had a brief fantasy earlier: suppose bin Laden had pissed off the Taliban -- they seem irritable & not too clear what their own interests are -- and they had sent his head to Dubya, not out of changed attitude to Bush, but just as the ultimate insult to a heretic. Would anyone have been satisfied w/ that? I've heard theorists say countries tend to require equivalent bloodshed. Which reminds me of D. H. Lawrence, in "England, My England" talking about whether people wanted "a just war" or "just war." If *anyone* asks me "are you with us or against us" I'm against them. Turns out that war is that goddamn ol' two-position switch. I suspect that politics can be reduced to chaos theory and studied as a natural phenomenon. But I have some respect for Colin Powell, even if he is one of the most boring speakers on the circuit. Makes Gore look like Jim Carey. Saw him twice (cause of my wife) and it was the same speech. There was a joke in it somewhere. Oh well. I like Beautiful Garbage. Anyone heard the new (?) Julian Cope live stuff, Floored Genius vol. 2? I'll surely buy it unheard. Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 02:04:49 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: RE: Howdy! I hear that it's... >maybe not peaceful, but the stakes are a lot lower when folks are calling >each other names over differing views of John Lennon's offspring, Speaking of which, I love Yoko Ono -- well, early Yoko, at least. Her artwork and her music, especially the crazy stuff, really appeals to me. I love those imaginary paintings and the small conceptual pieces in *Grapefruit.* At a recent Yoko Ono retrospective here in New York, I actually saw someone bite the apple. It made me happy to see that. And while on that subject, I would like to opine that Eb's "Yoko Fu Manchu" comment really cracked me up, and I really don't think it was mean-spirited racism at all. It was just funny. (Of course, I find the whole Eb/Hal thing sort of funny.) - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 13:32:19 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: RE: Howdy! I hear that it's... > (Of course, I find the whole Eb/Hal thing sort of funny.) Funny yeah, but the Viv/LJ thing is much more arousing. Has she shown you any of the digital pictures? Would you mind sending them through or setting up a page so we can all see them? ooohoh ooohooohh oho hoooooohh,,, ok never mind that one. but do setup the page. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 13:47:53 -0500 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Re: random notes (some RH content) Ross writes: > Lots of elaborate spooky stuff and lots of > flags. At least one porch had the appearance > of having several skeletons waving US flags. I > think the irony was unintentional. Gotta be a > poem in it somewhere. Or not. That is a sublime image. > Somebody on the Procol list suggested Bin Laden > be given, if caught, a sex change operation. A local radio personality had brought that up here last week. Ship him back to RAWA a "changed" man. > I suspect that politics can be reduced to chaos > theory and studied as a natural phenomenon. "Entropolitics." Unavailable energy in a closed system. Did we just invent a word? I'll split it with ya, Ross. Quail notes: > Anyway, I'm back, for better or for worse. The Dunwich Horror returns! :-p RH note: I'm sure this has been covered here before...but I just got around to picking up "Live at the Cambridge Folk Festival" and the song order is completely different from that as printed on the J card, not that I'm complaining. Any backstory to this? Were different versions released? To Kay: Your music is on the way, I swear to God it is. And only 72 days 'til "Fellowship of the Ring" opens (but who's counting)! Michael "a cola manufacturer is sponsering the war" - Duran Duran ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:13:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Subject: Re: it's that time again! On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Jason R. Thornton wrote: > At 11:16 AM 10/8/2001 -0600, HAL wrote: > >a sycophant attempted witticism on his leader's behalf: > > Ah, the "bigger," "better" man continues his litany of insults and baseless > assertions. How utterly impressive. Insults, insults, insults. > > > > your feet smell like dog poop burritos covered in stinky > > > goat-cheese > > > > > I love third grade. > > > >It shows - > > The subtly of satire escapes thee. Are you going to call me "shitty" now, > the way you did to Jason Brown in your "apology" to Eb? C'mon Hal. Let's > see another wonderful example of your maturity and level-headedness. Yeah what the hell was up with that, Hal? my post was pointing out that when you freak out and post long rants about the trivialities of john/yoko/sean/julian and things like "he who's name shall not be spoken", you are just confirming some people's, myself included, that you are a total fanboy. your retort to me on the list was just whiney, while your retort to me in private was really funny and cutting and put me in my place. i don't know why you didnt send that to the list instead. Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "Life boring when you no can die" -Solomon Grundy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 14:38:15 -0500 (CDT) From: GSS Subject: Re: litten notes > And only 72 days 'til "Fellowship of the Ring" opens (but who's counting)! certainly not anyone from this list. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 13:59:31 -0400 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: RE: Howdy! I hear that it's... Welcome, sir! You've been missed. > -----Original Message----- > From: The Great Quail [mailto:quail@libyrinth.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 4:47 AM > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Howdy! I hear that it's... > > > ...a lot more peaceful around here now! > > Heh heh. > > Anyway, I'm back, for better or for worse. > > --Quail, who has been listening the sweet bejeezus out of the > new Dylan CD ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:29:22 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Howdy! I hear that it's... > Welcome, sir! > You've been missed. Yeah, REALLY... but I mean, sheesh, what's next? Hell, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if Ed "Doc" Doxtator *himself* came back! John "just counting the nanoseconds" Hedges PS. If we all play our cards right, maybe we can get that "Mouse-stalker" guy back too... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 16:35:13 -0400 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: RE: Howdy! I hear that it's... Just seconds ago JH3 mentioned > ...Ed "Doc" Doxtator...[and]...that "Mouse-stalker" guy Such tantalizing morsels from the rich Feg Mythos! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:54:59 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Howdy! I hear that it's... > > ...Ed "Doc" Doxtator...[and]...that "Mouse-stalker" > > guy > Such tantalizing morsels from the rich Feg Mythos! Well c'mon now, Doc was a really nice guy! He even bought me a root beer once. In fact, I think he bought root beer for several people... There was even some talk of him becoming the primary root beer supplier for most of the Midwest, at one point. That Mouse-Stalker guy, on the other hand, refused to even *lend* me a pez, even when I promised to give him *two* pez (pezzes? I've never been sure about that one) the following Tuesday! So maybe we can do without him. After all, a world without free pez is NOT the sort of world we want to be living in. As I recall, neither of them were big Eb fans. (Or even big Eb fanboys, for that matter...) JH3-meister ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 14:48:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: Howdy! I hear that it's... On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, JH3 wrote: > Well c'mon now, Doc was a really nice guy! He even > bought me a root beer once. In fact, I think he bought > root beer for several people... There was even some > talk of him becoming the primary root beer supplier > for most of the Midwest, at one point. Yes, and Doc taught me everything I know about playing the guitar! Granted, that ain't much. But still... He's a good guy, and he has a fabulously expensive and beautiful guitar. Oh where are the Docs of yesteryear? Vivien ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 18:00:11 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: Re: Howdy! I hear that it's... when we last left our heroes, Viv Lyon (vivlyon@bitmine.net) exclaimed: >Yes, and Doc taught me everything I know about playing the guitar! >Granted, that ain't much. But still... He's a good guy, and he has a >fabulously expensive and beautiful guitar. Oh where are the Docs of >yesteryear? on the jazz butcher conspiracy list! +w ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 17:30:04 -0500 From: Jay Lyall Subject: Speakers OK, so I am looking at replacing my speakers (the old pair bought over 15 years ago gave out after the dog ate the bass cone - an RH title in the works)....so any recommendations? I am looking at a strategic purchase, so I am willing to shell out the cash for something good. I have been carrying around "I often dream of trains" as one of the sampler CDs. Cheers Jay - ----------------------------- Jay Lyall http://home.swbell.net/jlyall The moon rattles like a piece of angry candy. [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 23:32:57 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: Re: Speakers Mission are always a good bet. Depends on your budget really.. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jay Lyall > OK, so I am looking at replacing my speakers (the old pair bought over 15 > years ago gave out after the dog ate the bass cone - an RH title in the > works)....so any recommendations? I am looking at a strategic purchase, so I > am willing to shell out the cash for something good. I have been carrying > around "I often dream of trains" as one of the sampler CDs. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 18:42:08 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Oh darn! http://www.msnbc.com/news/639869_asp.htm While I don't enjoy or revel in bad things happening to people, I will not miss this man should he stop broadcasting. mAX _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 17:44:16 -0500 From: "JH3" Subject: Re: Speakers Jay L writes: > OK, so I am looking at replacing my speakers > (the old pair bought over 15 years ago gave out > after the dog ate the bass cone... - an RH title in > the works)....so any recommendations? Y'know, one of the nicest things about the Bose Acoustimass system, aside from the sound quality, is the fact that even a *weiner* dog couldn't possibly get his snout in there to the point where he or she could damage the speaker cones. AND, if you're willing to go with one of those big *powered* subwoofers (Bose's is passive), then you've expanded your options considerably while (in most cases) still maintaining the big advantage vis a vis weiner dogs... John "a spoonful weighs too much" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 16:40:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Subject: Re: it's war > Dont get me wrong, I hate all > religion, be it Christianity/Islam or The Church of Winny the Poo! But > there seems to be a certain section of the Islamic world, that seems to > believe that it dont matter what you do, or who you kill, it's ok if > your in support of Islam. WITH GOD ON OUR SIDE Bob Dylan Oh my name it is nothin' My age it means less The country I come from Is called the Midwest I's taught and brought up there The laws to abide And that land that I live in Has God on its side. Oh the history books tell it They tell it so well The cavalries charged The Indians fell The cavalries charged The Indians died Oh the country was young With God on its side. Oh the Spanish-American War had its day And the Civil War too Was soon laid away And the names of the heroes I's made to memorize With guns in their hands And God on their side. Oh the First World War, boys It closed out its fate The reason for fighting I never got straight But I learned to accept it Accept it with pride For you don't count the dead When God's on your side. When the Second World War Came to an end We forgave the Germans And we were friends Though they murdered six million In the ovens they fried The Germans now too Have God on their side. I've learned to hate Russians All through my whole life If another war starts It's them we must fight To hate them and fear them To run and to hide And accept it all bravely With God on my side. But now we got weapons Of the chemical dust If fire them we're forced to Then fire them we must One push of the button And a shot the world wide And you never ask questions When God's on your side. In a many dark hour I've been thinkin' about this That Jesus Christ Was betrayed by a kiss But I can't think for you You'll have to decide Whether Judas Iscariot Had God on his side. So now as I'm leavin' I'm weary as Hell The confusion I'm feelin' Ain't no tongue can tell The words fill my head And fall to the floor If God's on our side He'll stop the next war. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:19:09 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: Credit-where-due Dept. On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Viola Rockiss wrote: > Nup: > >Can sum1 please point me to the lyrics of 'Unsettled' and explain them? > > Lyrics at Bayard's essential site: > http://www.bitmine.net/~fegmaniax/lyrics/song.cgi?unsettled That's actually Jeme's iteration - he coordinated the compilation and correction of just about all the lyrics. well done old boy... "My" site is actually hosted at www.jh3.com/robyn/base - which is useful in case one is down some time, and you REALLY REALLY need some lyrics... =b "for the last time, it's not BITEME.net!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 21:35:57 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Speakers On Monday, October 8, 2001, at 05:44 PM, JH3 wrote: > Y'know, one of the nicest things about the Bose > Acoustimass system, aside from the sound quality, > is the fact that even a *weiner* dog couldn't > possibly get his snout in there to the point where > he or she could damage the speaker cones. Bose makes an interesting table radio, but I've always though that their speakers are better suited to driving away rodents and insects. ;) Your basic household pest - Steve __________ HALTON, England  President Bush said Thursday he is having a hard time selling a missile defense plan to skeptical allies in Europe because he has only "vague notions" about what it would entail. - Ron Fournier, AP, 07/19/01 ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #388 ********************************