From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #331 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, September 7 2001 Volume 10 : Number 331 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: political trolls defending their own [Eb ] Re: political trolls defending their own [Capuchin ] Re: Anne Heche. [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: political trolls defending their own [Eb ] boy wonder ["Colonel of Truth" ] Remember music? [Eb ] Re: political trolls defending their own ["J. Brown" ] Re: political trolls defending their own ["lucifersam" ] Re: Geranium Dreams [Johnathan Vail ] Re: Maine Coon Cat (0% RH) [Johnathan Vail ] Re: political trolls defending their own [Aaron Mandel ] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rk?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rk?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rk?= [] Become a Minister Now!! [lj lindhurst ] Re: Become a Minister Now!! ["matt sewell" ] Re: Become a Minister Now!! [Ken Weingold ] where is old Zealand? [Natalie Jane Jacobs ] Re: political trolls defending their own [Viv Lyon ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 22:43:05 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: political trolls defending their own Viv: >I find it almost >impossible to understand you're [sic] insistance [sic] that money does not >play >a role in what the media reports on. Um, when did I ever claim that? I'm just not going to agree with your ilk that any other motive is utterly trivial in comparison. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 23:15:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: political trolls defending their own On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Eb wrote: > Um, when did I ever claim that? I'm just not going to agree with your > ilk that any other motive is utterly trivial in comparison. We live in an age where so-called publicly held companies are sued by their minority stockholders for not doing absolutely everything in their power to increase shareholder value. A private corporation has exactly ONE purpose: To maximize profits. Any other goals are subservient to that goal and if a corporation makes a decision based on any value system other than the maximization of profit, they risk lawsuit from their shareholders. It is also demonstrably true that elected officials who do not do exactly what is in the best interest of the private corporations do not get re-elected (and this is particularly true with respect to media interests). Our Congress has rules that allow the most senior members to hold the most powerful positions (often by choosing those who will hold the most powerful positions not based on seniority). This means that the most powerful Congresspeople are the ones who least frequently fail to provide for the best interests of the private corporations. What part of this do you find misleading or untruthful? Any motive beside money-making has been trivialized... utterly. There are actually people that claim to believe nobody would make music if there were no copyright laws... that nobody would write books... nobody would paint pictures. Nobody. I talk with at least one person of that opinion every day. Track 13 of They Might Be Giants' Miscellaneous T album has an accidentally recorded telephone conversation wherein a woman from either Queens or Brooklyn is talking about the They Might Be Giants Dial-A-Song service actually says "But how does he make money on this? He's not making any money on this, right? But then, then he's a nut, right?" People acting in a community know all kinds of motivation beside monetary compensation. People acting in a capitalist market are acting irresponsibly and irrationally if they are motivated by anything other than profit. The values of the capitalist market are bleeding into the values of the people in our communities. Moreover (and moreso... and more obviously), those values are growing deep roots in our political system and our laws. Already laws exist that outlaw sharing certain ideas that "have no significant comercial use". What does this say? Why is this a factor at all? (And why the hell does Congress think it's OK to inhibit the sharing of information outside personal privacy and national security concerns?) There is example after example that shows the increasing dominance of capitalist market ideals invading non-market spheres of interaction. In fact, the only argument AGAINST the idea that profit is becoming the ONLY legitimate motivation for human action and interaction is head-in-the-sand denial. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 23:14:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Anne Heche. Maximilian Lang wrote: > KOO-KOO. just a tad....:) but harmlessly so. unless this is all a career move. she was probably an entertaining girlfriend though. if steve martin and ellen degeneres ever have lunch together, i want to be the centerpiece. ===== "Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul." -- Mark Twain "The divinity of Jesus has been made a convenient cover for every absurdity." -- John Adams "The jury is the last line of defense against corporate misconduct." -- Craig McDonald, Texans for Public Justice Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 23:36:47 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: political trolls defending their own More dogma from Jeme (but at least, relatively free from sensationalist buzzwords): >We live in an age where so-called publicly held companies are sued by >their minority stockholders for not doing absolutely everything in their >power to increase shareholder value. > >A private corporation has exactly ONE purpose: To maximize profits. Any >other goals are subservient to that goal and if a corporation makes a >decision based on any value system other than the maximization of profit, >they risk lawsuit from their shareholders. > >What part of this do you find misleading or untruthful? "I'm just not going to agree with your ilk that any other motive is utterly trivial in comparison." >Track 13 of They Might Be Giants' Miscellaneous T album has an >accidentally recorded telephone conversation wherein a woman from either >Queens or Brooklyn is talking about the They Might Be Giants Dial-A-Song >service actually says "But how does he make money on this? He's not >making any money on this, right? But then, then he's a nut, right?" Damn, you sure are on a TMBG kick, lately. >In fact, the only argument AGAINST the idea that profit is becoming the >ONLY legitimate motivation for human action and interaction is >head-in-the-sand denial. At least, according to the Sacred Gospel of Jeme. Which presumably will be accepted as common law, somewhere down the line when the human race evolves enough to catch up with him. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 23:53:18 -0700 From: "Colonel of Truth" Subject: boy wonder <> "agitprop", it's called. Gee, now there's an important distinction.> that was a joke, mostly. i considered inserting a smiley-con after, but didn't wnat to ruin my perfect record of never having used one. geez. all i did was *forward* the damned thing. principally, if you must know, in the hope that it would cause a digest to be spit out, which i could then read before "retiring" for the evening. now, i did believe that it was not only a well-written and quite accurate piece, but also touched on quite a few topics which have surfaced on-list in the last year or so. i actually went back and re-read the article after all your huffing and puffing, in an unsuccessful attempt to figure out why it disturbed you so. but, whatever. tell you what you do. call up your find-and-replace function, and change all occurances of "liberal elite" to "wavy fucking gravy". perhaps then you can concentrate on the content, and decipher the actual "thrust of the piece". until then, go get your fuckin' shine box. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 00:05:01 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Remember music? Tonight I played the new Dylan album, Love and Theft, for the first time...got it earlier today. Boy, I'm going to have to live with this one for awhile, before I firmly decide what I think of it. It takes a very interesting, unexpected turn -- there's certainly no attempt to clone Time Out of Mind here. You can tell this right off the bat, because Daniel Lanois is out as producer. Time Out of Mind may have been Dylan's most acclaimed album since the mid '70s, but Bawb is already moving onward to new sounds. I honestly feel like this record's stylistic thrust goes beyond my range of expertise, because the influences seem almost entirely pre-'60s. Yet there's no harmonica at *all*, so it's hard to even drop the songs into a easy "folk" pigeonhole (except for maybe one track which is dedicated to Charley Patton...someone else who's outside my ken). Four or five songs...well, I'm just not sure *what* artists to compare them with. It's '50s era (or maybe even '40s?), but it sure ain't rock 'n' roll. Or doo-wop. Maybe it's something like the stuff Brian Setzer has been doing lately, but even that has too much edge by comparison. These tunes are more about lounge-jazz chords, more about brushed drums and gentle, walking tempos. I suppose this was foreshadowed by that old Dean Martin hit which Dylan did for the second "Sopranos" soundtrack album, a few months ago. On the other hand, a few other tracks *are* old-fashioned, bluesy rock 'n' roll. And "Summer Days" is pure sock-hop stuff! It's a really odd tightrope to walk. This is the most eclectic mix of material Dylan has done since, jeez, probably Self Portrait. Except this disc isn't embarrassingly bad anywhere, like that oft-ridiculed collection. That said, I find the tracks terribly frustrating. And for just one reason: yup, the Voice. You have to make a choice, when playing the album -- either you enjoy the melodies and musicianship, or you strain to decipher what Dylan is singing. And I don't mean deciphering his themes and symbolism. I mean deciphering the damn *words*. As a result, the album lacks that crucial ability to be pleasurable for me both as background music *and* as actively studied "art." If you focus on the music, you'll glean almost nothing from the lyrics, but if you struggle to unravel Dylan's raspy mutterings, the music recedes and the enjoyment becomes almost academic. You might as well just read the lyric sheet, in that case...except there *isn't* one. I find myself fantasizing about how much I'd love this album if someone *else* was singing. I know that's the most cliched criticism of Dylan in the world, but I may feel this more strongly about Love and Theft than about any other album in his catalog. Dylan just is too unintelligible to sing over rock 'n' roll now, and his voice is nowhere near as emotionally expressive as it once was. This material needs someone with a bluesy edge to his (or even her!) voice, but who can also put a "smile" into the singing (a missing talent which I've frequently bemoaned in Robyn Hitchcock). There's definitely a good dose of humor on this album, but Dylan's delivery buries it. Hmm...who could do it? Paul Westerberg? Nah, not quite. Actually, the ideal singer is probably someone whose records I wouldn't even buy -- some 40ish black bluesman, someone like that. At this particular moment, I'm fantasizing about a Reese's-and-peanut-butter collision between this album and that John Hammond/Tom Waits collaboration (Wicked Grin) from earlier this year. Hammond and Waits, arranging these songs...hmmm. Better. I've been informed that Sheryl Crow already covered this album's apparent centerpiece "Mississippi," but I haven't heard the track. In any case, she wouldn't be a bad choice to sing the album, either. Sometimes I think I haven't given her catalog a fair shot. Well, I'm just thinking out loud here. As I said, I need more time to figure out where this album stands. As far as Dylan's own catalog goes, well, I now own 35 Dylan albums, and this one ranks almost smack dab in the middle. Most likely, a 14/20 on the Ebscale(tm). Maybe it could move up to 15/20, if the curtains somehow part after a few more listens. I'll be curious to hear views from others. There is all kinds of "masterpiece" talk in the Dylan newsgroup, but I don't trust those people - -- they're too wired into Bawb fanaticism, and too indifferent to any artists which aren't in a similar rootsy, folk/blues mode. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 00:28:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Brown" Subject: Re: political trolls defending their own On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Capuchin wrote: > Track 13 of They Might Be Giants' Miscellaneous T album has an > accidentally recorded telephone conversation wherein a woman from either > Queens or Brooklyn is talking about the They Might Be Giants Dial-A-Song > service actually says "But how does he make money on this? He's not > making any money on this, right? But then, then he's a nut, right?" A but He is making money on this! Dial-a-song helpped get TMBG known and now they get big nerdy crowds and sell theri albums through emusic and send people TMBG Unlimited Fleece puillovers and stuff. Its just that the johns were think long term return instead of short term gain. Anyone else got the new TMBG yet? doesnt it blow? Jason Wilson Brown - University of Washington - Seattle, WA "Life boring when you no can die" -Solomon Grundy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 08:45:40 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: political trolls defending their own Eb wrote: > > Oh no, the dreaded STATUS QUO! How could ANYONE not > recoil from that??? yeah, and their music was shite, too. > Funny how there's so much sneering on the Internet about who is "just > trolling," etc...but if a professionally published article is written with > the same form and intent, folks won't acknowledge that it's the same animal. When you troll, but get paid for it, it's called an "opinion piece". Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 08:50:09 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Space Ghost Mike Swedene wrote: > > Thom Yorke and Bjork are gonna be on Space Ghost Coast > to Coast tonight. Should be good. Indeed. "Vespertime" is glorious. "Puffin munching duckbat" ...? Stewart np: Mercury Rev, "All Is Dream". ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 09:02:15 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: Re: political trolls defending their own Actually, I'd point out that Status Quo's work in the 60's produced some pretty fine Psych/Pop....They have just had a 60's retrospective issued. Neat stuff.... From: Eb To: Fgz Oh no, the dreaded STATUS QUO! How could ANYONE not > recoil from that??? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 21:31:18 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Glib answers to sensible questions (annoyance rating 87%) >> ELITE! LIBERAL! ELITE! LIBERAL! Obviously signals an unreliable >> speaker, > >What the FUCK is a "reliable speaker"? Wharfdale? >Hello all, I'm currently looking for a Maine Coon kitten. Since there are >many cat owners/lovers on this list I thought I'd ask if anyone knowns any >good breeders. Kim Deal! >>Journalists assume a false objectivity in an attempt to please advertisers >>and maintain the status quo. [yadda yadda yadda] > >Ooh, "status quo"! There's another wonderful, bound-to-stir-up-emotions >term. Just the sort of cheap, heatseeking buzzword which the mainstream >media loves so much. Oh no, the dreaded STATUS QUO! "Rockin' all over the world..." James (in DunEEEEEEdin :) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 04:02:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Question about Laptops [0% content on alleged excessive smugness from the left] Does anyone have any horror stories/advice on buy a laptop for basic world processing/solitaire/internet/porn usage, as i'm probably getting one in the next couple weeks and am harassing everyone with this question? any apple product is probably out of the question since i'll probably want things to be compatable between the laptop and my old, coal fueled doohicky at home with the 2400 modem and windows 3.1. ===== "Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul." -- Mark Twain "The divinity of Jesus has been made a convenient cover for every absurdity." -- John Adams "The jury is the last line of defense against corporate misconduct." -- Craig McDonald, Texans for Public Justice Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 07:18:50 -0400 From: Johnathan Vail Subject: Re: Illustrators/Dunedin/Chu(r)ch Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 01:04:13 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Illustrators/Dunedin/Chu(r)ch >I embarrassed myself by mispronouncing "Dunedin." James, you have to warn >me about these things ahead of time. an easy mistake to make, since it's named after Edinburgh (it's the Gaelic equivalent of the same word), BUT pronounced with a long stressed "e" to rhyme with feedin', needin', weedin', and readin' (but not the one in Berkshire). DOON-eh-din, indeed! Like to take a crack at pronouncing a town 50 km north of here - Waikouaiti? :) Terrence (or any of you other Floridian fegs), how is Dunedin, FL pronounced? AFAIK it's the only other Dunedin on the planet. I was born and raised in Dunedin Fla. "Dunn-eed-in", rhymes with "done eaten" as in "that dawg done eatin my biscuit". jv <- Left the Sunshine state in the mid 70's and never voted in any election there. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 07:30:04 -0400 From: Johnathan Vail Subject: Re: Geranium Dreams Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 01:04:13 +1200 From: theyarenotlong@hotmail.com Subject: Geranium Dreams I wrote yester: >getting to pop the pimples on your baby's back. An elemental, almost > >ape-like grooming procedure with sexual overtones >(theres something so, er, primeval bout "liberating" all that ozzing >white >stuff.) It has been pointed out to me that my use of "baby" was ambigious. Hey, Im not -that- big a perv. And besides babys dont -have- pimples. So please substitute for "baby" the less subtle "hunka chunk of burning love." Thank you. Thank you very much. Babies do have pimples. Especially newborns. They may not be angst oozing puss-holes of teenagers but they are honest hard working pimples. Here's my baby on her first day with a small one: http://newts.org/~emily/firstdays/image023.jpg http://newts.org/~emily/week3/image011.jpg jv <- a pimple on the butt of god. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 07:41:56 -0400 From: Johnathan Vail Subject: Re: Maine Coon Cat (0% RH) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 23:12:51 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: Re: Maine Coon Cat (0% RH) Nuppy writes: > Hello all, I'm currently looking for a Maine Coon kitten. > Since there are many cat owners/lovers on this list I > thought I'd ask if anyone knowns any good breeders. Would that you'd asked almost exactly a year ago! My wife and I picked up *three* of them that had been abandoned by the side of a nearby road, and the one we kept for ourselves turned out to be the most adorable little cat in the ENTIRE FREAKING WORLD. Alas, unfortunately for you, Brian, we had her spayed! Oh well... But they *are* exceptionally cute, aren't they? We got ours from a breeder in Manchester (NH) following a cat show (never letting them go to a cat show again...). Since I wasn't keen on getting a third cat they didn't fill me in on the cost or details but I can track it down if you like. Louie (named after Lou Barlow, also King Louie of France from reading the Dumas books at the time...) is a great cat. jv <- cat scratch fever ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 08:27:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: political trolls defending their own On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, J. Brown wrote: > Anyone else got the new TMBG yet? doesnt it blow? no, it's great. with the exception of "Older", a pointless piece of crap that has only gotten worse by being played continually for about four years. there are one or two other tracks i would have taken out and replaced with other things, but they've gotten over the rut that kept them from releasing a record for what, five years? a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:07:21 -0400 From: "Ultimate Goal" Subject: Re: Glib answers to sensible questions (annoyance rating 87%) >From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) > >> ELITE! LIBERAL! ELITE! LIBERAL! Obviously signals an unreliable > >> speaker, > > > >What the FUCK is a "reliable speaker"? > >Wharfdale? Wharfdale? Are they still around? Yes, they did make reliable speakers. I bought some in 1989. > > >Hello all, I'm currently looking for a Maine Coon kitten. Since there are > >many cat owners/lovers on this list I thought I'd ask if anyone knowns >any > >good breeders. > >Kim Deal! Is she a Maine Coon Kitten? Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 09:16:55 -0400 From: "Ultimate Goal" Subject: Re: Maine Coon Cat (0% RH) Thanks for all the help fegs! I'm fairly certain that there is a cat show in Flint, MI next weekend. Wish me luck! Nuppy (who's off to San Fran for a week of nothingness!) >From: steve > >On Thursday, September 6, 2001, at 04:11 PM, Ultimate Goal wrote: > >>Hello all, I'm currently looking for a Maine Coon kitten. Since there >>are many cat owners/lovers on this list I thought I'd ask if anyone >>knowns any good breeders. So that's my question in the form of a >>statement. > > >http://cats.about.com/cs/breeders/index.htm > > >But a search for Maine Coon Cattery + your state ought to turn up >something. > > >But how's this for specialization, the MCBFA, or Maine Coon Breeders and >Fanciers Association - > > >http://www.mcbfa.org/ > > >We've always had excellent luck just going to a local cat show and >finding someone with "pet quality" kittens for sale (or show quality, if >you want to drop the bucks). Anybody bothering to show is almost always >going to be someone who cares about their cats. You can find TICA and >CFA shows listed at the below sites. > > >http://www.tica.org/ > >http://www.cfainc.org/ > > >- Steve > >__________ >Nationalize Windows, let Bill keep the rest. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 21:48:18 -0700 From: The Great Quail Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rk?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rk?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rk?= Stewart burrs, >Indeed. "Vespertime" is glorious. "Puffin munching duckbat" ...? Yes! All hail Bjvrk! In my opinion, "Vespertine" is the first album this year to give Nick Cave's new one a run for its money. I was mildly disappointed by Stereolab, and very disappointed by Laurie Anderson; and Tori's new album is all covers, but Bjvrk! Oh, my sweet Bjvrk, only I really understand you. In fact, I was putting up Bjvrk wallpaper but LJ informed my that to do so would give her allowance to stock the shelves with Mariah Carey prayer-figurines, so I had to curtail my redecorating. Oh my sweet Bjvrk! But while I am on the subject, does anyone have any opinions of the new Laurie Anderson CD? I am just getting increasingly more disillusioned with her, to be honest. I feel like she still has a lot of creativity, but she's stuck in some static "Strange Angels" groove, making quasi-world music that does not best suit her talents. I almost find some songs on "Life on a String" to be embarrassing, like "Laurie, please, move on...." Yes, I am indeed on a first name basis with all these women. - --Quail, listening to Rene, and wondering who would win an Eb/Jeme death-match..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:22:04 -0400 From: lj lindhurst Subject: Become a Minister Now!! >Minister Charles Simpson has the power to make you a LEGALLY >ORDAINED MINISTER within 48 hours!!!! s15 > >BE ORDAINED NOW! > >As a minister, you will be authorized to perform the rites and >ceremonies of the church!! > >WEDDINGS >MARRY your BROTHER, SISTER, or your BEST FRIEND!! >Don't settle for being the BEST MAN OR BRIDES' MAID >Most states require that you register your certificate (THAT WE SEND >YOU) with the state prior to conducting the ceremony. > >FUNERALS >A very hard time for you and your family >Don't settle for a minister you don't know!! >Most states require that you register your certificate (THAT WE SEND >YOU) with the state prior to conducting the ceremony. > >BAPTISMS >You can say "WELCOME TO THE WORLD!!!! I AM YOUR MINISTER AND YOUR UNCLE!!" >What a special way to welcome a child of God. > >FORGIVENESS OF SINS >The Catholic Church has practiced the forgiveness of sins for centuries >**Forgiveness of Sins is granted to all who ask in sincerity and >willingness to change for the better!! > >VISIT CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES >Since you will be a Certified Minister, you can visit others in need!! >Preach the Word of God to those who have strayed from the flock > >WANT TO START YOUR OWN CHURCH?? >After your LEGAL ORDINATION, you may start your own congregation!! > > >At this point you must be wondering how much the Certificate costs. >Right? Well, let's talk about how much the program is worth. >Considering the value of becoming a CERTIFIED MINISTER I'd say the >program is easily worth $100. Wouldn't you agree? However, it >won't cost that much. Not even close! My goal is to make this life >changing program affordable so average folks can benefit from the >power of it. > >Since I know how much you want to help others, you're going to >receive your Minister Certification for under $100.00... Not even >$50.00... You are going to receive the entire life-changing course >for only $29.95. > >For only $29.95 you will receive: >1. 8-inch by 10-inch certificate IN COLOR, WITH GOLD SEAL. >(CERTIFICATE IS PROFESSIONALLY PRINTED BY AN INK PRESS) >2. Proof of Minister Certification in YOUR NAME!! >3. SHIPPING IS FREE!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 16:00:51 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Become a Minister Now!! Hmm... tempting... But, alas, I am already an ordained priest - of the church of the Subgenius: http://www.subgenius.com/pam1/pamphlet_p1.html The motto of the chuch: "fuck 'em if they can't take a joke" Fnord! Matt "Praise Bob" Sewell Is that Dodds or Dylan...? >From: lj lindhurst >Reply-To: lj lindhurst >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Become a Minister Now!! >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:22:04 -0400 > >>Minister Charles Simpson has the power to make you a LEGALLY >>ORDAINED MINISTER within 48 hours!!!! >>s15 >> - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:03:24 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Become a Minister Now!! On Fri, Sep 7, 2001, lj lindhurst wrote: > >WEDDINGS > >MARRY your BROTHER, SISTER, or your BEST FRIEND!! HEY! I don't want to hear about ANYONE marrying their siblings. that's just plain wrong! ;-) - -Ken, eyes goverment spec width apart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 09:07:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Natalie Jane Jacobs Subject: where is old Zealand? >Ch'ch is about the size of Portland, and >Dunedin's about the size of Eugene. So if I said 'do you know Arthur Q. >Grumbleburper from Eugene?', what's the chance that you would? "Oh, you're from Australia? Do you know Bob?" - Joel Hodgson No, I don't seriously think you know everyone in NZ, but since you seem to know half the famous musicians there, I merely assumed... :) People sometimes ask me if I know so-and-so at the University of Michigan, which has 40,000 students and a faculty to match. No, I don't know so-and-so. I really don't. n. - -- Natalie Jane Jacobs gnat@bitmine.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:00:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Viv Lyon Subject: Re: political trolls defending their own On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, Eb wrote: > Um, when did I ever claim that? I'm just not going to agree with your ilk > that any other motive is utterly trivial in comparison. Though it took an almost unbelievable amount of cajoling to get even this much out of you, I'm afraid this essential restatement that you disagree with "my ilk" about this subject does not suffice. However, in deference to your clear desire to avoid exposing your lack of rational foundation for your opinion, I suppose I should just thank you for what meagre mental exertions you were willing to put forth. Vivien ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #331 ********************************