From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #329 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, September 6 2001 Volume 10 : Number 329 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Book Illustrators? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Farewell pore gunk... at least for a while ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Fwd: delete at once [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Book Illustrators? [steve ] Re: Fwd: delete at once [Christopher Gross ] Illustriating ["Budd Leia" ] random kiwi note [Natalie Jane Jacobs ] REAP ["Thomas, Ferris" ] Re: reap#2 [Aaron Mandel ] now let's talk about ears! ["ross taylor" ] 12 year old gross out stuff ["Budd Leia" ] Re: random kiwi note [Christopher Gross ] The Geranium That Was Bigger Than God (Feglist Dream) ["victorian squid" ] cheese? i thought that was wisconsin! ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] illustrators [melissa ] The perfect blend of music and beer... [Tom Clark ] Macca and Thyme [John Barrington Jones ] Anne Heche. ["Maximilian Lang" ] the little spelunker that could ["Colonel of Truth" ] Re: the little spelunker that could [Eb ] Re: illustrators [Michael R Godwin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 09:48:07 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Book Illustrators? Mike Swedene wrote: > > our favorite illustrator ... Can anyone recomend any? Quentin Blake (I especially recommend his illos for "Uncle", by JP Martin) Edward Ardizzone (see "Stig Of The Dump", by Clive King) Mervyn Peake Dr Seuss Christian Birmingham (many, inl a lot by Michael Morpurgo: "Wombat Goes Walkabout") Maurice Sendak the first three are my favourites, tending to light pen drawings. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 09:50:51 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Farewell pore gunk... at least for a while Eb wrote: > > (Will any Fegwomen admit to taking the Biore plunge? ;)) well, amongst many of my wife's former college mates, it's a vital part of any informal social gathering: fx: scurrying off to bathroom eww!! eww!! repeat until confused. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:33:12 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Farewell fegs... at least for a while - --On Tuesday, September 04, 2001 13:31:11 -0700 Tom Clark wrote: > The nurse said they do this a lot; people just don't use preventative > measures like they should. Once a month you should use that kit you > purchased and this will never happen again. I have to have this done just about every other year. The doctors invariably tell that it is *not* my fault, that there is nothing I can or even should try to do about it... OF course this kind of treatment is free in Germany (included in everyone's obligatory health insurance, not actually "free"), so I don't care. Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:23:28 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Something nasty in the woodshed On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Natalie Jane Jacobs wrote: > I forgot to mention another good book I read recently, "Cold Comfort > Farm" by Stella Gibbons (?). It's making fun of some sort of genre that > was popular in the 30's - some cross between D.H. Lawrence and Southern > Gothic. Though I'm unfamiliar with the genre, "Cold Comfort Farm" is > still hysterically funny. The novel is also set twenty years in the > author's future, so there's a quaint SF element to it. (There's video > phones, and people travel everywhere by two-passenger airplane. Wildly funny book. IIRC, it's specifically a parody of 'South Riding' by Winifred Holtby, but I agree that the D H Lawrence / Thomas Hardy influence is strong. The BBC did a star-cast film of it which is worth seeing: http://www.movie-reviews.colossus.net/movies/c/cold_comfort.html The sequel 'Conference at Cold Comfort Farm' is just a right-wing rant and isn't worth reading. - - Mike "Sukebind" Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:46:32 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Fwd: delete at once On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, matt sewell wrote: > Cheers Eddie > Great article - always been a fan of Pilger's... where did it originally > come from? It was in the New Statesman a few weeks ago - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:02:47 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Book Illustrators? On Wednesday, September 5, 2001, at 03:48 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Maurice Sendak You'd have to figure out how to work in the Wild Things action figures! - - Steve __________ Which wild child daughter of a politico was smoking pot at an L.A. party? The hard-partying lass puffed right under the nose of the minders who try to keep her out of trouble. Answer: Jenna Bush - New York Post, 7/25/01 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 10:19:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Fwd: delete at once On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, matt sewell wrote: > Cheers Eddie > > Great article - always been a fan of Pilger's... where did it originally > come from? AAAAAAAAAARRRRGGHHHH! Did you really have to quote the ENTIRE 5-page, ten thousand byte message when posting that one-line response? - --Chris "conservative to John Pilger, short to Wilt Chamberlain" the Christer ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 15:13:53 +0000 From: "Budd Leia" Subject: Illustriating On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Mike Swedene wrote: > I am taking a course in Children's Lit at school. We are supposed to > pick out our favorite illustrator and do a presentation on that person > and the medium they worked in and the usual. It is supposed to help > us learn presentation skills. Can anyone recomend any? Presentation skills or illustrators?;-) Capuchin answered: >John Tenniel Ahhhh, the worlds come to an end. I'm agreeing with Jeme. And yes, I -do- feel fine. I will add Jessie Wilcox Smith, Violet Oakley and Elizabeth Shippen Green of the Red Rose Girls, a Wissahickon Creek turn-of-the-century very lady-like lesbian artists' commune. Smith was the most prolific, she did loads of George McDonald, a Child's Garden of Verse, Little Woman, Evangeline, Burnett's In The Closed Room and lots of history stuff. Oakley was best known as a muralist but helped out Smith on Evangeline. Id also add the Brandywine River people(with whom the Red Rose girls also studied with) folks like Howard Pyle and granddaddy Whyate(We've got some wonderful large original paintings of his from adventure books down in our kids section, and I can't walk by them without wanting to run away to sea and be a pirate:-). Taken together these two groups represent a wholey American arts n crafts (in fact alot of their work involved the interpretation of early American history(in Oakley's case an interesting Quaker interpretation)) take on illustration. Rackam, Hughes and Crane are also goodies. And Charles Addams did do a Mother Goose. Sendak and the Crews and the Dillons and the Pinkneys are also worth looking at Of course, you could also do Peake, a rather obvious choice considering this list.:-) Kay, ever the librarian "But cleanliness of the soul is important, dont you thee-ee-ink?" Robyn Hitchcock _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 08:21:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Natalie Jane Jacobs Subject: random kiwi note Got my hair cut by a guy from Christchurch, New Zealand... he was cute, of course. Surprisingly, he did not know James!!! I was shocked! He did not know Chris Knox either, but claimed he was a "national institution" and was now a movie critic on TV. Huh? I embarrassed myself by mispronouncing "Dunedin." James, you have to warn me about these things ahead of time. - - the Portland elite of one p.s. It was a good haircut. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 11:22:29 -0400 From: "Thomas, Ferris" Subject: REAP Hank the Angry Drunken Dwarf dead at 39 http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/eo/20010904/en/howard_stern_s_hank_the_dwarf_ dies_1.html ______________________________________ Ferris Scott Thomas programmer McGraw-Hill Education 860.409.2612 ferris_thomas@mcgraw-hill.com (email) Boom Shanka. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 11:58:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: reap#2 On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Eb wrote: > http://cdnow.com/allstararticle/fid=285287 "After seven years of churning out seminal alternative music..." hard to tell whether that's crappy writing or just a lack of enthusiasm for the article's subject. Grand Royal's label rep was one of the worst offenders i ever ran into when it came to insisting that since we played one of his label's records, we had no reason not to chart all the others. still, they churned out some decent music. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:14:22 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: now let's talk about ears! The 1st half of my life I had periodical earwax crises. One nurse told me I was a candle factory. Then I discovered q-tips. In a way it was fun having the treble periodically turned way down then way back up. Even as focused on music as I am, I think I tend to live much more thru my eyes than my ears. I've really only tripped three times, so I was always a bit nervous about it, apprehensively monitoring my senses for incoming weirdness. I'd be watching for visual effects so rigorously I think it had the effect of locking things down at first, so usually the first hallucinations I'd get would be whispering voices (well, maybe after trails). Kids illustrators-- Maurice Sendak! Besides Where the Wild Things Are, he started out doing the Little Bear books w/ Elsie Minarik. He gets lots of character into very simple situations. He also did illustrations for Randall Jarrell's The Animal Family and The Bat Poet. I also love Miss Potter's animal books, lovely colors & you can tell she's really observed the animals. Plus I swear Peter Rabbit has the same plot as Aliens. My favorite might be Carl Sandburg's The Wedding Procession of the Rag Doll and the Broom Handle and Who Was In It illus. by Harriet Pincus. It came out in 1967 I think, & there's an American Psychedelic feel to it. Chuch, Box of Birds-- Thanks to whoever mentioned this, I just got it & it's lots of fun. I had their big hit album & thought it was over produced. I always had a closet fondness for The Porpoise Song. Nat-- It's great to hear the adventures of another Ross. I also like sticking my name into images.google.com and seeing all the faces that come up. There was a fun movie of Cold Comfort Farm ... Kay/Cordwainer Smith-- He has a very odd background, CIA etc. The intro to the book says he knew L. Ron Hubbard, hinting that it's significant. Ross Taylor just bought: The Place I Love / Splinter (w/ Beatle George!) Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:39:23 +0000 From: "Budd Leia" Subject: 12 year old gross out stuff Mike Wells in praise of Krauss: >One of her better nuggets worth digging up is the vocal on Led Kaapana's >"Waltz of the Wind" - a marvelous country/hawaiian release in it's own >right, but much the better for her singing the title track. A good 'ole >goose-bumper. Will do. Love the title. Im amazed by the fact that I now realize she did alot of the "Brother Where Art Thou" stuff, but I was so memerized by the movie I didnt really hear the music as distinct. >Percy Bysse Sherry ("just a small one please") or Percy Fish Sherry perhaps;-? - --------------- Nat You know, if anything could sell me on music Ive never heard , it migth just be the title "Teddy Bears Gone Bad." - --------- Eb trolling: >This reminds me of those peculiar commercials for Biore facial >strips...or whatever they're called. Instead of the usual cosmetics pitch of >glamour and beauty, the thrust of the commercials seems to be "Dig it -- you can LOOK AT WHAT CAME OUT OF YOUR NOSE AFTERWARDS! EWWWWWWW. Hee hee hee!" >Bizarre. I havent seen the commercial but it would get me to buy it. I love gross stuff. It has always amazed me that no one has ever written a tribute to one of the great private luuuv pleasures -- getting to pop the pimples on your baby's back. An elemental, almost ape-like grooming procedure with sexual overtones (theres something so, er, primeval bout "liberating" all that ozzing white stuff.) Plus sometimes it even smells! You all think Im joking, right? But thats the joke -- Im not:-) So Eb, do you think we'll be seeing commercials on TV soon for aids for - -that- procedure anytime soon? >It's odd, how many years women made do without these things. Now, it's like >they're suddenly essential.... >(Will any Fegwomen admit to taking the Biore plunge? ;)) I am a beauty products moron. Using conditioner or moisterizer is my idea of going to extrodinary leangths. Anything past that is stupifying. I buy stuff from time to time. Theres a home waxing kit rotting somewhere in my linen closet, there may even be some Biore strips somewhere. But actually use them? Thats ssssccccary. There should be a school for beauty product morons, where they teach you how to put on mascara without smearing it into racoon circles, shave your legs without nicking them(waxing would be part of the graduate progrom) or hell, - - just getting a straight part in your hair. And they should have a scholarship program for the truelly needy. Like me. Or you could just send donations directly my way;-). The odd thing is Im quite competent at all sorts of other things. Am an absolute fountain of life skills. Can teach myself or be taught all sorts of amazing stuff. Except how to get lint off my clothes. Or apply nail polish smoothly. See Eb, thats what happens when you troll. More than you -ever- wanted to know;-). But hey, I had a great time:-) And dont be too alarmed. I do shower regularly. - -------------- Kay "But cleanliness of the soul is important, dont you thee-ee-ink?" Robyn Hitchcock _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:39:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: random kiwi note On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Natalie Jane Jacobs wrote: > I embarrassed myself by mispronouncing "Dunedin." James, you have to warn > me about these things ahead of time. How is it pronounced? I always assumed it was "DUN-eh-din," or maybe "DOON-eh-din." Just curious. - --Chris PS: I just found out that the woman who was maimed by a shark in North Carolina on Monday, and whose fiance was killed, was a GWU student and slight acquaintance of mine. Suddenly the story seems a lot real to me. ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 11:02:03 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: The Geranium That Was Bigger Than God (Feglist Dream) This isn't the first time Robyn showed up in a dream of mine, but it is the first time I've had a dream with so much list-related stuff in it, so I thought that since the list has been slow I'd throw it up here for those who might be entertained. I was with someone I don't recognize (but in the dream did sort of know) who was from the Feglist. We were going to see Robyn Hitchcock and Rufus Wainwright. The show was at a rambling old manor house in the English countryside. More precisely, it was in a really large, green, mossy courtyard of this house, which turned out to be being used as student housing for some university. There was a glass counter set up with candy, some ordinary (kit kat bars, hershey's, mars bars) and some not (tins of multi-colored jelly beans that were just labelled "bird eggs" and it wasn't clear what was going to be in the tin til you opened it- they also had spun sugar "feathers" stuck on them). There was also a table with beer in the back but they only had Pabst Blue Ribbon. There were maybe about 40-50 people milling about at this point. I remember seeing a bunch of 18-19 year old people with dyed hair, aggressive piercings and long black tshirts, and wondering what they were doing at -this- show. I was wearing a blue-green bathrobe and it seemed perfectly normal. I saw a friend of mine from highchool that I haven't seen in ten years, she was wearing one also. My feg ride had wandered off somewhere. I ran into someone who introduced himself as Nuppy and was pleased to meet him (I have no idea what the real one looks like, but this guy was about 5'9", stocky, and had short dirty blonde hair and was wearing a Jam tshirt and shorts). After a brief time spent wandering around the manor house/dorm looking for the bathroom and encountering a huge communal kitchen, a dusty dark-wood ballroom, and finally a student's room where I asked "where are the toilets, please?", I emerged to find that more people had arrived and that Rufus Wainwright was already on stage. He was singing "California". There was a band of maybe ten people, one of whom was a middle-aged woman accordion player with medium-length dark hair, who wore bright pink lipstick and had spent too much of her youth tanning. I remember being surprised, but not as surprised as I was when the dyed hair people rushed to the front of the stage. Rufus fans, apparently. I like Rufus OK but was sort of bored and decided to go wander around the house some more and did that. Um, blank spot in the memory here, but I think I went looking around the house and hung out in the ballroom. Anyway, so next thing I recall Rufus's set was over and people were milling around looking disgruntled. Seems that Robyn was very late and chatter in the air was people were annoyed and wanted to leave. And many did. The crowd thinned out to maybe 30 people. The feg person I came with found me and said that he intended to leave as he didn't think Robyn was going to show at all. I was disappointed but hey, this was my ride, so we got ready to leave. On the way out we saw Robyn coming in, so we turned back. Just Robyn, being wheeled in in a shopping cart. I ran back in and yelled something like "Don't leave, Robyn's here". He seemed pleased by this, I don't know why. Turned out he wasn't actually going to play tho. This was the premiere of a film he had made, it was called "The Geranium That Was Bigger than God". It was about a really big geranium that was the biggest geranium in the yard, and the biggest that other plants had ever seen, even the old trees, and it thought that it was going to be God someday. I'm afraid I can't say how the geranium's saga turned out as this is about when I woke up. loveonya, susan Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 11:08:36 -0700 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: cheese? i thought that was wisconsin! >From: Natalie Jane Jacobs > >Ross sounds like Mike Mills, so there's a Southern >twang to the whole thing as well. I thought Mike Mills was from California! >From: Mike Swedene > >I am taking a course in Children's Lit at school. We >are supposed to pick out our favorite illustrator and >do a presentation on that person and the medium they >worked in and the usual. It is supposed to help us >learn presentation skills. Can anyone recomend any? Edward Gorey, of course! In addition to his own books he also contributed illustrations for a bunch of John Bellairs's books. Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 11:24:30 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Re: 12 year old gross out stuff On Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:39:23 Budd Leia wrote: >There should be a school for beauty product morons, where >they teach you how to put on mascara without smearing it >into racoon circles, shave your legs without nicking them >(waxing would be part of the graduate progrom) or hell, >- just getting a straight part in your hair. When (and what's probably more important, where) I was growing up there were lots of "charm" classes. They usually took place in the summer and were targeted at 12-14 age group. Most of what they were was exactly this stuff. It wasn't about "learning to be charming" at all. "Charm" was a euphemism for things like makeup application, eyebrow shaping, all that. I myself never went to a charm class. I was a 13 year old new-waver and I didn't want to learn how to primp with a bunch of future sorority girls. I think my mother would have liked for me to go to one but she didn't press it. The thing is, that apes do learn by imitating, whether they're conscious of it or not. When I got to boarding school in New England, age 14, I saw that I was still way more advanced at this stuff than anyone else around me, because growing up in Texas I'd just seen more of it and subconsciously picked it up. I also had more experience at things like shaving. What I had previously considered a "bare minimum" for grooming was actually what the daughters of New England around me would maybe do for a dance or other "occasion". That being said, I had no idea what to do with eyeshadow until about a year ago. loveonya, susan Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:22:32 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: reap#2 >> http://cdnow.com/allstararticle/fid=285287 > >"After seven years of churning out seminal alternative music..." > >hard to tell whether that's crappy writing or just a lack of enthusiasm >for the article's subject. Crappy writing, I suspect. :) Yeah, "seminal" is a tough word to pull off without looking like a shmuck. >Grand Royal's label rep was one of the worst offenders i ever ran into >when it came to insisting that since we played one of his label's records, >we had no reason not to chart all the others. still, they churned out some >decent music. I don't have anything Grand Royal-sy in my permanent collection beyond Luscious Jackson, Bis, Butter 08 and Sean Lennon (the Kostars are on my shopping list), but I don't think I ever heard a disc on that label which wasn't interesting in some way. I allllllmost liked Buffalo Daughter, and, well, maybe one day, I'll have an epiphany and realize the Beastie Boys are as wonderful as everyone else says they are.... Eb, getting real sick of reading press releases which brag about artists being nominated for "the prestigious Mercury Music Prize" (it's like Badly Drawn Boy somehow "invented" this sales pitch...) PS I don't think anyone "reaped" Dr. Christian Barnaard, either. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 21:53:38 -0000 From: melissa Subject: illustrators Lane Smith - the Stinky Cheese Man and the Happy Hocky Family and tons of other stuff... Clive Barker - the Thief of Always My absolute favorite is Aubrey Beardsley. Finally got to see an original pen drawing that was more amazing than I can express in words. I think he did some arthurian myth type drawings if those count. Melissa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:57:59 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: The perfect blend of music and beer... http://www.petersontuners.com/bbo/bbo.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:58:12 -0500 From: David Librik Subject: Re: Book Illustrators? Mike Swedene writes: > I am taking a course in Children's Lit at school. We > are supposed to pick out our favorite illustrator and > do a presentation on that person and the medium they > worked in and the usual. It is supposed to help us > learn presentation skills. Can anyone recomend any? Do you think you could extend "book" to CD booklets and liner notes, and thus pick up Robyn Hitchcock? - - David Librik "Where's Mr. Bad News? I got some CAKE!" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:40:42 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Macca and Thyme Hey all - We've been hearing about this track that the Soft Boys recorded for the upcoming Paul McCartney tribute. "Let Me Roll It". So, how come most of the blurbs I'm reading refer to the track as being by Robyn Hitchcock? Is that how it is gonna be credited on the CD? And aren't the other Soft Boys saddened by this? Is Robyn a Soft Boy No More? Also, I'm looking for the following two songs in mp3 format: 1 Wild Mountain Thyme by Nigel & The Crosses (off that Byrds comp) 2 The Weekend's Too Short by Graham Parker. Let me know if you can assist me. Please. Thanks, =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 22:17:07 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Anne Heche. KOO-KOO. Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 00:01:40 -0700 From: "Colonel of Truth" Subject: the little spelunker that could "agitprop", it's called. <>new Labour elites >the liberal establishment >The threadbare liberalism of the new Labour elite >the media elite's >Liberal elites And on and on it goes....> that's who the article is *about*, ass-wipe. if you want to critique it based on the content, have at it. is it not logical? do you have a problem with sourcing? are the facts adduced not up to snuff? do you, even, dispute the existence of such a class of people (however it's to be labeled)? very well. tell us why. but dismissing the piece solely on the grounds that you have scanned it and managed to identify a few (apparently) offensive "buzzwords" (while it's perfectly acceptable behaviour for a syndicated columnist) will not wash here. i have a sawbuck says you didn't even read it. don't know. might try checking his website, . also, i wrote a review of his film Paying The Price. , if anyone's interested. i'm quite happy to dub off copies off the tape if anyone'd like to see. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 00:35:06 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: the little spelunker that could Colonel of "Truth" wrote: > > > "agitprop", it's called. Gee, now there's an important distinction. Either way, it's just a grudge-based, hotheaded smear piece trying to pass itself off as scholarly "truth." Which you eagerly lapped up, of course, because you get a hard-on for any political opinion which has a superficial air of "shaking things up." > but dismissing the piece solely on the grounds that you have scanned it and > managed to identify a few (apparently) offensive "buzzwords" Well, pushing nasty buzzword buttons was the thrust of the piece. ELITE! LIBERAL! ELITE! LIBERAL! Obviously signals an unreliable speaker, who's stooping to a lot of short cuts to make his point more dramatic. Kinda like the anti-abortionists who just scream "BABYKILLER!" over and over, for instance. > i have a sawbuck says you didn't even read it. You have my mailing address. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 11:34:24 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: illustrators You illustrator fans didn't mention the brilliant Pauline Baynes, who did the Narnia pictures and the excellent illustrations for Father Giles of Ham. And didn't she do a map of Middle Earth once? I'd like to get hold of that. - - Mike Godwin On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Eb wrote: > PS I don't think anyone "reaped" Dr. Christian Barnaard, either. That unlikely double a is in Christiaan, not in Barnard IIRC. It's Afrikaans, like aardvark. (Q: What is the world's tamest creature? A: The aardvark. Follow-up Q: Why? Follow-up A: Because aardvark never hurt anybody!) ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #329 ********************************