From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #324 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, August 31 2001 Volume 10 : Number 324 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: feg Reading ["Brian Hoare" ] a pair of Keats, please, and make them Shelley! [grutness@surf4nix.com (J] Re: feg reading [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: imitation robynspeak [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Little Wilson's other works ["Scott McCleary" ] post tour shindig 30/4/01 ["jbranscombe@compuserve.com" ] Re: feg reading [steve ] Re: post tour shindig 30/4/01 [Michael R Godwin ] Fegfog ["Budd Leia" ] Anja Garbarek and Stina Nordenstam? ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: post tour shindig 30/4/01 ["matt sewell" ] Feg Reading ["Poole, R. Edward" ] Re: feg reading / interstitial arts movement [jill sunderlin ] Sheets, Kelley, etc. [Natalie Jane Jacobs ] Ben Kingsley ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: feg reading / interstitial arts movement [Christopher Gross Subject: Re: feg Reading >So what else is being read now? I've just finished book 2 of Gene Wolfe's New Sun series. I was hoping to reread PKD Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch before hitting book 3 but I can't find a copy anywhere. Maybe I'll read something else of his, I'm in a PKD mood at the moment. Best reads so far this year: War and Peace, Jeckyl and Hyde, Heart of Darkness. >Look who it is! A very nice interview with our own Mr. Ruch... > >http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/nonfiction/intaruch.htm > While there try a short story by my beloved Sarah. http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/stories/cassilago.htm As a quick inexcusable plug I will also mention that her novel Crow Maiden, published by Kosmos is available from Amazon,BAMM &c. Its a long time since I read the drafts but "paranormal in the West Country" or "magic realism in Wiltshire" would be handy tags. have fun Brian _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 00:06:50 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: a pair of Keats, please, and make them Shelley! >Of course Keats wasn't the coolest Romantic. The coolest Romantic - as >everyone knows - was Mary Shelley. I'm always impressed by the way >"Frankenstein" has worked its way into our culture and is known - at least >in name - by just about everyone. How many people would recognize the >name of a Percy Shelley poem if they heard it? and don't forget the writing of Mary's mother, either! James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 00:14:33 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: feg reading On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Mike Wells wrote: > So what else is being read now? 1) A concise history of Ireland. (There are times I'm not proud to have been born in England. Surprisingly I found out a few more snippets about my ancestry from this book, though!) 2) The waking dream: Fantasy and the surreal in graphic art, 1450-1900 3) a book on the theatrical designs and costumes of Romain de Tirtoff Erte. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 00:16:06 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: imitation robynspeak >Since things are slow & I don't have any >transcriptions with me, here's an imitation of >a Robyn monologue. I was thinking at 1st I'd >try mixing these in w/ real Robyn, but I don't >think I can come close enuf to fool anyone. >So it's more feg fan fic -- hmm... very good... if we're going to be like that about it, I'll include the robyn-inspired monologue I have been known to recite before singing my song* "Tiny frogs": There are things you can do if you're feeling tense, to calm yourself down. Like if you're stuck in traffic, you could just imagine you're in a big bathtub full of warm water, and the steering wheel's really a rubber duck, and all the other drivers are sitting in bathtubs, too - big V8 bathtubs, old battered Skoda bathtubs, bathtubs with mag wheels... Another thing you can do is just close your eyes and imagine a beautiful dawn. Try it. Close your eyes. You're standing on a peaceful hilltop and dawn is rising, and the light is flooding the valley below you. The mountains are snowcapped in the distance and you're standing there in your clear plastic trousers with your grand piano next to you. And the trousers are filled with water and there are goldfish in there, swimming around, nibbling your leg hairs. Suddenly you notice that the fish are acting kind of scared and you feel uncomfortable sticky feet on your back. There are little frogs there and they're staring at the fish and it's making the fish nervous. You want to calm the fish down, and the best way to do that would be to play them something nice on the piano, but there's a problem. All the keys at one end of the piano are green and they all play the same note. The other half are blue and they all play the same note too, but it's a different note to the green ones. Also, you'd have to sit down to play, and that would worry the fish even more. There's nothing that scares fish as much as giant buttocks coming towards them at high speed. Beliee me - I should know. So that's what this song is about. It's about scared fish, tiny frogs, and blue and green pianos on a lovely peaceful morning in the mountains... [starts into "Tiny Frogs"] James * well, mine and Alice's. She inspired part of the monologue, too. James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:51:43 -0700 From: "Scott McCleary" Subject: Little Wilson's other works I'd put in a plug for Burgess's Piano Players, and Earthly Powers wasn't a bad read either. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:03:21 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: post tour shindig 30/4/01 I have found my bedraggled, drunkenly scrawled and incomplete notes on The SBs post tour party. This was held at The 3 Kings the night after the Portsmouth gig. Everyone seemed a little tired at the start of the evening, indeed Matthew left before the band started playing, but once it got going, boy it cooked. Scott McCaughey and Mike Mills were prominent guest Soft Boys and there were a couple of other geezers from REM's entourage who I should be able to name but can't. Give It To The Soft Boys Queen Of Eyes Tonight Chinese Bones Viva! Sea-Tac The Weight - The Band She Said She Said - A bunch of Rutles impersonators Waterloo Sunset - A bunch of Kimberley Rew impersonators New Age - A bunch of Warhol acolytes Stuck In The Middle With You - A bunch of Tarantino acolytes Mrs Robinson - I heard it on a film sound track once... Scott did something solo which sounded like Twilight Cafe (?) Rain - Them Beetles Last Train To Clarksville seguing in and out of Paperback Writer Then I've written 'Creedence' but I can't remember them playing any CCR THEN!!! A lovely surprise - A bloody brilliant version of Ted, Woody & Junior. More stuff from Scott on lead vox - I've jotted some lyrics 'Vesuvius','pleasure fly', 'corridor where you hope for more'. Very funny improvised Louie Louie style number from Scott & Mike about Robyn while he was in the loo and then he stood watching them from the audience, and, no, of course I can't remember any of the very funny lyrics... Ghost In You One After 909 Pretty Flamingo Listening To The Higsons - Live Aid style finale There were several other songs but my pen wasn't working or at the time I was talking to members of The Waves or the legendary Fletcher or Kimberley's lovely girlfriend Lee. Starfucking or what?! Actually, given the last mentioned above, I'll cancel that remark... jmbc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:06:58 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: songs for minging lovers One of Robyn's remarks at Edinburgh still has me chortling. He introduced My Wife & My Dead Wife by claiming that he'd written it for Frank Sinatra... Guess you had to be there... Crowbar Joe ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:12:03 -0400 From: "jbranscombe@compuserve.com" Subject: the boy's gone posting crazy!!! Talking of books and art and fakes and reproduction of works of art, as people have been in the three or more months since I became rather disconnected from the list... William Gaddis's brilliant debut novel The Recognitions deals with all that kind of mullarkey in a densely fascinating way. Branscombe - Sax - Got To Get You Into My Life ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:21:59 -0500 From: "Sweet & Tender Hooligan" Subject: Re: feg reading > So what else is being read now? Well, in the fluff department I'm currently finishing Martha Wells' "The Death of the Necromancer", which has been riveting. Also, everyone should read "A Series of Unfortunate Events" by Lemony Snicket (yes, I read children's books - one of the many perks of having a 2-year old). On the meatier side of things, I've recently re-read John Sanders' "The God Who Risks: A Theology of Divine Providence", but I don't imagine anyone here is interested in that. Still, an excellent read. :) - - s&th cirhsein@yahoo.com "If you keep your mind sufficiently open, people will throw a lot of rubbish into it." - William A. Orton ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:46:21 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: feg reading On Friday, August 31, 2001, at 08:21 AM, Sweet & Tender Hooligan wrote: > Also, everyone should read "A Series of Unfortunate Events" by Lemony > Snicket (yes, I read children's books - one of the many perks of > having a > 2-year old). Mr. Snicket has a web site, of course - www.lemonysnicket.com And he will be publishing an unauthorized autobiography. In March, I think. - - Steve __________ A U.S. anti-missile weapon was able to destroy a test warhead in space on July 14 partly because a beacon on the target signaled its location during much of the flight, defense officials said on Friday. - Reuters, 07/27/01 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:21:31 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: post tour shindig 30/4/01 On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, jbranscombe@compuserve.com wrote: > I have found my bedraggled, drunkenly scrawled and incomplete notes on The > SBs post tour party. * Sounds groovy, jmbc! I hav a couple of comments and queries. > Give It To The Soft Boys * Did they play this during the tour? If not, why not? > The Weight - The Band > She Said She Said - A bunch of Rutles impersonators > Waterloo Sunset - A bunch of Kimberley Rew impersonators > New Age - A bunch of Warhol acolytes > Rain - Them Beetles > Last Train To Clarksville seguing in and out of Paperback Writer * Nice selections! Did anyone record any of this stuff? I'd like to hear Morris handling that "no no no you're wrong when I was a BOY" section. > Then I've written 'Creedence' but I can't remember them playing any CCR * 'Bad moon rising'? 'Born on the bayou'? 'Down on the corner'? 'Fortunate son'? 'Lodi'? Any of those ring a bell? Or did you just feel like writing 'Creedence' at the time? > THEN!!! A lovely surprise - A bloody brilliant version of Ted, Woody & > Junior. * OK databasers - when was that last performed (with or without soap)? > Ghost In You > One After 909 > Pretty Flamingo > Listening To The Higsons - Live Aid style finale * Weird stuff, eh? Did I tell you that 'Pretty Flamingo' was the first tune ever learned, give or take 'Cherry Cherry' by Neil Diamond? Maybe I should stop asking questions? - - Mike "to the left is a marble shower" Godwin PS Anyone apart from me and Brian venturing down to Dorset on 15th? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:23:03 +0000 From: "Budd Leia" Subject: Fegfog James, Ah So youre another of those Searlites. So what -do- I call all of you? Commonwealthers? Dosnt exactly trip off the tongue, now does it? Any suggestions? I had fun last night doing the Searle search suggested. Found out the movie St Trins is a series, which book titles Searle did and a good essay on the logic of the absurd. >i'm a kiwi celt Im visualizing a guy in a kilt with a kewi green, magenta and turquiose tartan. Oh, and Braveheart hair extensions. On the beach.:o) - ------------- Nat: > The coolest Romantic - as >everyone knows - was Mary Shelley. I'm always impressed by the way >"Frankenstein" has worked its way into our culture and is known - at >least in name - by just about everyone. How many people would >recognize the name of a Percy Shelley poem if they heard it? Great point. And Mary had to trunddle around after her self-proclaimed, self-important genius of a husband(alright, he was, but so was she, thou he only noticed it when it suited him ) whose travel whims helped lead to the death of their children, for whom she grieved but he seemed to hardly notice. He was this great humanistic revolutionary idealist who couldnt even be decent to his own family. Hypocritical, silly git ... but with a great ear. One of the best ears in the english language. But still, the least he could have done is gone off to fight for Greece(and be knocked in his head for his labors) instead of going sailing when no decent sailor would(or at least first properly learned -how- to sail. The man had -no- common sense.) BTW Nat--Ive now got Aimee Mann's "Frankenstein" on permenent play in my mind. - ---------------- Godwin: >In my view, it's Burgess's best book Well theres a thorny thread. Ive always loved "The Wanting Seed" and "M/F." Yes, "Nothing Like the Sun" with the syphilis hypothosis was wonderful. He also wrote alot of literay essays which are always interesting. I like his early stuff before he became well-known best. He got abit lazy after that. As for Shelley's prose, his "Apology for Poetry"(or was that the title Sydney used? Damn, well anyway, his long essay on poetry) is excellent. He was a master of the english language and knew what he was talking bout at least in terms of poetry. - ----------- Mike Wells/ Godwin Goooo "Silverlock!" Got it in crumbling paperback and love it. Fegs, borrow it. Its not quite like anything else Ive ever read, thou its is indeed quite like many other things Ive read;-). The ending especially, where JANE is the guide(hear that Doug), nevertheless in some ways reminds me of Morris's "Well at the World's End." - -------------- Ross: Thats GREAT! Thou its not -really- Robyn. Its YOU:-). (love the fog coming out of their eyes. Incredible image. To fog instead of to see.) - ------------ Kay, off to a glamorous weekend in the glamerous Hamptons, which can only be entered thru an arch which reads "Abandon Hope, All Ye Who Enter Here." "But cleanliness of the soul is important, dont you thee-ee-ink?" Robyn Hitchcock & "Voices, when soft music dies Vibrate in the memory" Shelley--and from memory ;-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:23:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Anja Garbarek and Stina Nordenstam? I recently learned about two singers and am looking for input -- I can't find samples of their music anywhere, so if you know anything about them, lemme know. Anja Garbarek seems to keep good company (Robert Wyatt and Steven Wilson of Porcupine Tree), and Stina Nordenstam has been whispered about in the Ecto circles in usenet, and seems like she might be interesting. Was anyone else as freaked out as I was when I heard Tones on Tail's "Go" in a TV commercial? What was it for, potato chips or something? "Ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya yaaaaa-aaaaah." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:31:25 -0700 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: feg reading Well, have been in school, but started to read "In a Sunburned Country" by Bill Bryson, a travel book on Australia. I love Bryson. Unlike Theroux, he is a much happeier person. eleanore steve wrote: > On Friday, August 31, 2001, at 08:21 AM, Sweet & Tender Hooligan wrote: > > > Also, everyone should read "A Series of Unfortunate Events" by Lemony > > Snicket (yes, I read children's books - one of the many perks of > > having a > > 2-year old). > > Mr. Snicket has a web site, of course - > > www.lemonysnicket.com > > And he will be publishing an unauthorized autobiography. In March, I > think. > > - Steve > __________ > A U.S. anti-missile weapon was able to destroy a test warhead in space > on July 14 partly because a beacon on the target signaled its location > during much of the flight, defense officials said on Friday. - Reuters, > 07/27/01 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:38:36 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: post tour shindig 30/4/01 Sounds like it was a great party, Joe... BTW how was your run at (?can't remember where?) doing that (?Wilde play?)? I was also struck by the absence of Give it to the Soft Boys during the UK tour... hmmm... Chrissy & I will certainly be going down to Evershot, depending on whether we can find somewhere nearby to stay that isn't quite as expensive as the places actually in Evershot appear to be... I guess we'll see you there Mike & Brian! Also I think Tony B & Kate are going... how about you, Joe? As for fegreads, I'm currently whizzing through Robert Anton-Wilson's Prometheus Rising - a very recommended overview of the 8 circuits of the brain as discovered by Timothy Leary - I'm hoping that my brain will eventually become something I can have fun with, rather than eroding it and abusing it with compulsive drinking/smoking behaviour... as they say, you can't beat your brain for entertainment! Cheers Matt >From: Michael R Godwin >Reply-To: Michael R Godwin >To: fegmaniax >Subject: Re: post tour shindig 30/4/01 >Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:21:31 +0100 (BST) > >On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, jbranscombe@compuserve.com wrote: > > I have found my bedraggled, drunkenly scrawled and incomplete notes on The > > SBs post tour party. > >* Sounds groovy, jmbc! I hav a couple of comments and queries. > > > Give It To The Soft Boys > >* Did they play this during the tour? If not, why not? > > > The Weight - The Band > > She Said She Said - A bunch of Rutles impersonators > > Waterloo Sunset - A bunch of Kimberley Rew impersonators > > New Age - A bunch of Warhol acolytes > > Rain - Them Beetles > > Last Train To Clarksville seguing in and out of Paperback Writer > >* Nice selections! Did anyone record any of this stuff? I'd like to hear >Morris handling that "no no no you're wrong when I was a BOY" section. > > > Then I've written 'Creedence' but I can't remember them playing any CCR > >* 'Bad moon rising'? 'Born on the bayou'? 'Down on the corner'? 'Fortunate >son'? 'Lodi'? Any of those ring a bell? Or did you just feel like writing >'Creedence' at the time? > > > THEN!!! A lovely surprise - A bloody brilliant version of Ted, Woody & > > Junior. > >* OK databasers - when was that last performed (with or without soap)? > > > Ghost In You > > One After 909 > > Pretty Flamingo > > Listening To The Higsons - Live Aid style finale > >* Weird stuff, eh? Did I tell you that 'Pretty Flamingo' was the first >tune ever learned, give or take 'Cherry Cherry' by Neil Diamond? Maybe I >should stop asking questions? > > >- Mike "to the left is a marble shower" Godwin > >PS Anyone apart from me and Brian venturing down to Dorset on 15th? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:37:58 -0400 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: Feg Reading Wells: >So what else is being read now? Non-fiction exclusively, for some odd reason: "Driving Mr. Albert," by Michael Paterniti -- part road trip, part memoir, part biography... it tells the story of a 30-something journalist who drove across country with the pathologist who performed Einstein's autopsy and removed (and kept for 40 years) his brain, on a trip to deliver the brain to Einstein's grand-daughter. For those of you interested in why one would pay to see John Lennon's glasses, the relic-status of Einstein's brain (and how it shaped the life of the pathologist and everyone who came in contact with it) will provide further grist for your mills. Oooh, bad image. *shudder* Great read, though. "Kitchen Confidential," by Anthony Bourdain. My wife just happened to pick this one up, and it's really a wonderful (if at times manic, frightening, and disgusting) read. Think Hunter S. Thompson (one of the author's adolescent heroes) as a 3-star chef, complete with the drug-addled adventures and manic prose and you'll start to get the idea. Key tips include why you should never order the fish special on mondays. You don't have to know anything (or care at all) about cooking or restaurants to enjoy this one. Also -- I watched the new DVD of "Gandhi" last night and, mind you, I think it is a decent film (not especially complex, but that's a hard life to capture & Kingsley's performance is outstanding). But, is it just me, or is there something, I dunno, dissonant (if not worse) about Gandhi's life being told by citizens of India's former Imperial overlords (Attenborough and Kingsley)? I mean, what would the reaction be ML King was portrayed by Tom Hanks in blackface? ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. 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"The Porcelain Dove," which is a novel by Delia, is particulary recommended if you can find a copy (it was out of print, but has just been reprinted). It's a good long novel to get wrapped up in -- when my husband read it he fortunately started it on a Sat morning, as he didn't stop reading until he had finished the story. "The Porcelain Dove" is somewhat historical fiction set in France, with mythic and fantasy elements -- in what I would guess is a somewhat Renaissance time, since Delia is a Renaissance scholar. Midori, Delia and Ellen are usually lumped into the "fantasy" category of writing, which is something I generally don't read a lot of, so it was nice to have a push to read something different. Ellen also hosts the public radio show "Sound and the Spirit", so you may know her from that, but she's a writer as well. Ellen and Delia, along with Terri Windling are promoting a new literary and art genre that they have named the Interstitial Arts -- literary, visual, and performance arts that "blur or abolish the boundaries drawn between genres and art disciplines." (Though it would have been nice if they had named it something a little more spellable and pronounceable). Basically they're trying to find a home for a lot of writing, art and music that doesn't fit the standard music and bookstore shelving categories. There's a good explanation of this on Terri's Endicott Studio site at: http://www.endicott-studio.com/ia.html jill ps -- feg tree #2 has not been set in motion yet, in case you're wondering. We're waiting on the master copies of the shows yet. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:32:19 -0000 From: melissa Subject: re: feg reading I've been reading a lot of stuff but not finishing much of it. Here's a list of the latest The River - Edward Hooper Looks into the possible links between polio vaccinations and the emergence of AIDS. Interesting but long. I'm stuck about halfway through this one. Border Crossing - Pat Barker A boy revisits the therapist who declared him fit to stand trial as an adult for a killing. Disturbing and good. Gormenghast - Mervyn Peake I really tried but could get more than 30 pages into this one. Casino - Nicholas Pileggi Fun. Much better book than that really long movie. The parts about betting nd the cheating at the casinos is a little more detailed. Part of the mafia movie series we've been watching. Nickel & Dimed: On (Not) Getting By in America - Barbara Ehrenreich She went to try and see if she could get by working low paying jobs in different cities in the US. The not too surprising answer is no but she does a great job showing how everything gets to be struggle - housing, food uniforms, gas for the car etc. Things I must find to read Bubba-hotep - Joe R. Lansdale Elvis, a man who thinks he's JFK and an evil egyptian thing at a texas rest home. Now that this is going to be Bruce Campbell film I definitely have to find it. Melissa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:42:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Natalie Jane Jacobs Subject: Sheets, Kelley, etc. ABBA ABBA is a fine novel, I would recommend it. Finding it in the US was a bit of a struggle, but I do believe it's in print here. Of course, if you want to read a different kind of novel about Keats, there's always "Hyperion" and "The Fall of Hyperion" by Dan Simmons - hard science fiction with a Keatsian theme running through it (an android simulation of Keats turns up as a character at one point). And all three younger Romantic poets figure prominently in "The Stress of Her Regard" by Tim Powers. My obsession with this novel in my freshman year of college was what got me turned on to the Romantic poets in the first place. The novel is scrupulously researched horror/fantasy and very engaging, if a wee bit sexist. (Though not obtrusively so.) I have a volume of Shelley's prose, but I haven't read much of it. He was kicked out of Oxford for one of his prose pieces (something atheistical - can't remember the title). "Keats turns time into flesh", says Kay - very nice. :) Makes him sound like a 19th-century Robyn. I was just thinking about another meeting of famous poets - Keats nad Coleridge lived not too far away from each other (Keats in Hampstead, Coleridge in Highgate), and ran into each other on Hampstead Heath one time. Coleridge was quite the loquacious fellow, and Keats reported acerbically to a friend (paraphrased from memory): "I heard his voice as he came towards me, I heard it as he went away, I heard it in all the interval between." I really enjoy talking about all these poet fellas again. Makes me almost regret not having gone to grad school. ALMOST. n. - -- Natalie Jane Jacobs gnat@bitmine.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:30:06 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Ben Kingsley >From: "Poole, R. Edward" >there something, I dunno, dissonant (if not worse) about Gandhi's life >being >told by citizens of India's former Imperial overlords (Attenborough and >Kingsley)? I mean, what would the reaction be ML King was portrayed by Tom >Hanks in blackface? Well, not entirely. Check out Ben Kingsley's imdb page here: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Kingsley,+Ben Note the birth name. Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:55:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: feg reading / interstitial arts movement Jill: > We just had a visit from Midori Snyder, Ellen Kushner, and Delia Ellen Kushner, eh? Her _Swordspoint_ and _Thomas the Rhymer_ are two of my all-time favorite fantasies. I know she's also written a few children's books; but did you hear if she's published any other adult novels? Melissa: > The River - Edward Hooper > Looks into the possible links between polio vaccinations and the > emergence of > AIDS. Interesting but long. I'm stuck about halfway through this one. Actually, Hooper's theory has been pretty well shot down in recent months, so you might not want to spend the time to finish it. Some of my recent readings: _Cryptonomicon_ by Neal Stephenson. Epic (sort of) novel following the parallel stories of a codebreaker in WWII and a computer programmer turned entrepreneur in the late 90s. Excellent. (Though being the big history geek that I am, I was annoyed by some anachronistic dialog in the WWII sections.) _In the Beginning ... Was the Command Line_, also by Neal Stephenson. A short, entertaining and easy to understand pro-Linux tract. (However, I disagree with his harsh assessment of GUIs; they might not give the power user as much, um, power as a CLI, but they do give novices and casual users a lot more power than they would have if limited to a CLI.) _Guns, Germs and Steel_ by Jared Diamond. Fascinating, at least for big macro-history geeks like me. Investigates how geography, climate, flora and fauna have influenced rates of social development in different parts of the world. _Daughters of the Sunstone_ by Sydney Van Scyoc. This is a fantasy/sf trilogy collected in one volume; I'm about 2/3 of the way through the first book, _Darkchild_. So far it's decent. _Moby-Dick_ by Herman Melville. You've all heard of it; but if you haven't read it yet, you'll find it's much weirder and wilder than you probably expect. _White-Jacket_ by Herman Melville. A first-hand account of life as a common sailor on a US Navy frigate, ca. 1840. Part humor, part muckraking, written in a much more realistic and down-to-earth style than _Moby-Dick_. _Ulysses_ by James Joyce. Still haven't finished, but I'm further along than I've ever made it before. Someday.... - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #324 ********************************