From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #318 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, August 24 2001 Volume 10 : Number 318 Today's Subjects: ----------------- F**K ["lucifersam" ] Re: overinflated thread [Aaron Mandel ] Dylan album [John Barrington Jones ] through the glassy look ["Andrew D. Simchik" ] Re: Covers Ablums/wuz Re: overinflated [Ken Weingold ] Fegrotica ["Budd Leia" ] Re: Fegrotica ["lucifersam" ] RE: The Dylan Thing [Eb ] just what i needed [HAL ] Jay Bob & Dan ["Poole, R. Edward" ] dylan schmylan ["ross taylor" ] Re: ministry of silly fegs [steve ] Re: Jay Bob & Dan/ Max's Anger Management Vent ["Maximilian Lang" ] Natalie Jane's big chance [steve ] Re: Jay Bob & Dan/ Max's Anger Management Vent ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Fegrotica [Ken Weingold ] Re: un-insightful as always ["lucifersam" ] 1987, I hope I go to the 7-11 [JH3 ] the most Friday traffic in months? [Eb ] Dylan and other covers [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:19:12 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: F**K Why, Thank You ...;0) > Oh you think so. Well fuck you lucifersam. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:39:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: overinflated thread On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Christopher Gross wrote: > Interesting setup on that site. You click on browse to get a list of > bands (plus the inevitable Noam Chomsky), you click on a band name, > and you get taken back to the start page. No music is heard at any > time. The interface is a bit odd, but I've never had anything like that happen under Netscape or Konqueror. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:43:26 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Dylan album hey feggies- I lost the first message of this thread....is there really to be an album of Dylan covers on Editions PAF! ? Its weird how the covers album has morphed and evolved through the years. Although maybe he's just going to officially release the Warner's Dylan gig promo. More info please! So, this will come out before the next Sot Boys album? =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:46:59 -0700 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: through the glassy look >From: Capuchin Thanks for reminding me of the tracklisting -- I can comment and the rest of you can yawn: >This Town Ain't Big Enough For The Both Of Us - Sparks The original is better, I think, but Siouxsie's version is very fine. >Hall Of Mirrors - Kraftwerk Never heard the original. I suspect it's quite different. >Trust In Me - Disney's Jungle Book I'd rather hear Siouxsie pillage Disney than watch Disney any day of the week. >This Wheel's On Fire - The Band (though Siouxsie didn't know it at the >time and thought she was covering Julie Driscoll) Never liked this song very much in any form. Its late association with AbFab helps only a little. I don't have anything against Siouxsie's "Strange Fruit," but I have to agree that it's a weird choice. >You're Lost Little Girl - The Doors Both versions are wonderful. >Passenger, The - Is this Bauhaus or Iggy Pop? Ha ha. I love this version and prefer it to the original. I've never heard Bauhaus's. >Gun - John Cale Love it, but never heard the original. >Sea Breezes - Roxy Music Prefer Siouxsie's in some ways. >Little Johnny Jewel - Television (which explains the silly line "She's >just trying to tell a vision") Never heard the original, but not big on this one. Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 15:02:11 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Covers Ablums/wuz Re: overinflated On Fri, Aug 24, 2001, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > My first-tier choices would be Nick Cave's Kicking Against the > > Pricks, John Zorn's The Big Gundown and (oho) the notorious > > ambient-musher's These Foolish Things. > > KATP is on my short list of stuff to buy really soon, but I was > tremendously disappointed with These Foolish Things when I got it a few > months back. it felt like Ferry was trying to hard to be daring with > the arrangements, and ended up being cute and pretentious too often. I > didn't even keep it. And beyond KATP, Nick's cover of In The Ghetto is awesome. As is his duet with Shane MacGowan of What a Wonderful World. And on covers, two great ones that come to mind are The Banshees doing All Tomorrow's Parties live from the Oh Baby (I) CD single. And Bob Mould's covers of Richard Thompson's Shoot Out The Lights and Turning of the Tide. Okay, so that's three.... - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:11:31 +0000 From: "Budd Leia" Subject: Fegrotica Now that Ive done one relevant post, I can mess about even more than usual with 6(now make that --7!) long digests worth of odds n ends;-) Drew: >Okay. "Freeze" gets my vote for most massively overrated Robyn >song. Is there some behind-the-scenes thing I don't know about >that gets this into, like, EVERY setlist? Agreed. Theres alot from the Queen Elvis period I can barely listen to. They are tremedously raw and painful (which is usually an important thing) but I find it almost physically hurts to listen to them. Not because of the pain per se but because its almost, for me, pain without art. Its like he's going to put down his guitar at any point, mutter "sod it", and just start screaming. And the words are an attempt at a screen or defense against the pain, rather than an exploration of it. So if he just sings alot of words fairly quickly then he wouldnt start screaming. But the words are weakened by the fact that his real concentration is on not screaming. And that, of course, is a totally subjective take. But thats part of the Push-me-pull-you nature of language--it can take you in deeper or be a babel of useless protection. Also Freeze--it makes me thing of the great bad jokes: What do you call a double amputee? Neil. What do you call a singel amputee? Eileen. Outch. Oh -- but love Edgyptian Cream. Its a girl thang. - ------ Thanks James for getting Husker Du into 87's greatest hits:-) I never really listened to the Jam (not sure how that happened but it did.) And Ive always -ment- to listen to them. If I put Jam into Morpheus I get deluged with Pearl Jam. Are their specific song titles I should enter which will wow my socks off? - ----- Eb Also like Madonna's "Live to Tell" and "Like a Prayer". Plus "Material World" which always made me think of the Shelly poem bout Byron which starts "Rip not the painted curtian which some call life."(? for exact words.) Anyway, it gave a dance song great depth and irony. - ------ Kenneth: >Hey Kudos to any indie musician, even those that have >rocketed to stardom from the grassroots up, to garner that much >positive >vibration among real people, who dont have to rely on EMpTV or >Warner Bros to push their product. Couldnt agree more. In fact at this point I give kudos to any musician who puts himself or herself out there without a machine to support him or her. Must take guts. BTW, thank you for sharing all sorts of Robyn rarities on Morpheus-- unless of course I was connecting to a -different- Kenneth Jonhnson Robyn fan;-). - ------------------ Tommy the C: >I just hope everyone realizes that Natalie and I have a loving and >tender >relationship in real life. We just insult each other for your >amusement. Half the fun of feg is watching us try to pose as if fegs werent(all together now, follow the bouncing Bayard ball(yes Tom, I know what youre thinking and fuck you ;-)"the nicest people." - ------------ Huddell: >It was a joke. They have no intention of fucking each other. Ahhh, but how do you define intention? Now, ... or after 3 drinks;-). - ------------ Hmmm, and now Barrington wants to get involved. Theres the beginning of a feg fest for you. - ------------ Jeme: You may know all but Im stuck at the Socratic/Sgt Schultz level "I know nothing, nothing." - ---------- Hal: >I don't think I could pick one single Hitchcock song as my favorite, >though I think "Glass Hotel" would be way up there. It's something >that happens in my spine and my head when I hear it. There's this >fragile, tense, delicate part and this rushing release of truth for >a minute and then back to the glass again. Great true description. I dont have 1 fave Robyn song, more like ten. Both Glass and Glass Hotel are in there cause yeah, they do that to my spine and head too. - ---------- JH3 That Cher thing sounded like a Robyn rant. Hmmmmm, somebody sound the cheese alarm. - ----------- Jason: >And fuck you, everybody. Fuck you one and all. Ahhh, so youre planning to host the feg fest. - -------------- James: >Anyway. I was always told that if you can't say something nice, >talk about the weather. In 1367, it rained ferrets over a >considerable >portion of lower Westphalia. 1)But the ferrets were saying nice things and 2) wasnt it just awhile ago that you shocked and amazed the list by actually uttering an obscenity. Followed by another obscenity, causing some of us to think that the world must be ending(Oh my God, Dignan swore!) Come on Mr Poddy mouth, get with the program;-) >Aw fuckin' fuckity fuck. Thats better. But "fluflet?" whats that, some weird antipoddyium action? - ------------------ Kenster: So youre going to the feg fest too?;-) - ----------------- Godwin Cant believe I forgot Fairport and "If you Got to Go, Go Now." When I was 14 I thought it quite the snicker fest. I also forgot Million Doller Bash. And I now have an excuse to listen to Blossum Toes(whom I already like just based on the name.) - ------------------ Mike-- Thanks for the Clancy Bros tip. Havent heard that one yet. - ------------------ Woj The Great Listmaster has spoken. "Visions" it shall be. - -------------- Michael Yes, Fairport Percy's Song is one of those tingles up your spine songs. I love the way it slowly builds, then opens all the way up, quiets down and then that final line "And the only tune my guitar could play was O the cruel rain and the wind." Its just rips me up. I love how earlyish Dylan was just brimming with rage at the utter fuckedness of the world. - ---------------- Someday I aspire to do a post long enough to be its own digest. Kay, who wishes she had a magic wand to make everything everywhere all better, but is reading Harry Potter and has noticed that he -does- have a magic wand(shut up Tom) and its -still- not enough. Drat. Guess theres no easy way out of being a mere mortal. Except maybe falliably continuing on. Fucking fuck it;-). I finially got a sig "But cleanliness of the soul is important, dont you thee-ee-ink?" Robyn Hitchcock _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 20:38:47 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: Re: Fegrotica Kay, May I suggest the following Jam tracks...All touched by the hand of God....start with **** In The Crowd**** Carnation The Butterfly Collector**** Tales From The River Bank**** Billy Hunt To Be Someone Waste Land**** I need You Down In The Tube Station at Midnight**** Fly Strange Town The Eton Rifles Dreams of Children**** Boy About Town Scrape Away Happy Together When You're Young - ----- Original Message ----- From: Budd Leia > I never really listened to the Jam (not sure how that happened but it did.) > And Ive always -ment- to listen to them. If I put Jam into Morpheus I get > deluged with Pearl Jam. Are their specific song titles I should enter which > will wow my socks off? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 13:04:40 -0700 From: Eb Subject: RE: The Dylan Thing Michael: > Fairports cover of Percy's Song is brillant. It would get my vote as the >best Dylan cover of all time. Great track, but I like their "I'll Keep It With Mine" even better! (My #1 favorite Dylan cover is probably Them's "Baby Blue," which Kay also mentioned. Which, thankfully, is a lot better known now, thanks to Beck and the Dust Brothers.) The ever-ribald Kay: >Are their good covers of :One Too Many Mornings...? Well, I have a version by Bobby Sherman...is that good enough? ;) Actually, I couldn't think of any covers of those other songs you listed, though lots of people (not really me) adore P J Harvey's version of "Highway 61." Some of the more complex, longer Dylan songs (like several you listed) are such formidable beasts of internal symbolism that no one dares to touch them.... Of course, for questions like that, it's always useful to punch a song title into the search engine at Amazon or CDNow and see what artists turn up. Eb, who still hasn't seen Storefront Hitchcock...dagburnit ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:50:06 -0600 From: HAL Subject: just what i needed OK, call me tasteless, but "Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back" was just the thing I needed to get me out of the sweltering August summer movie doldrums...an old fashioned Sex, Drugs and Rock 'n' Roll film (with lots of comicbook in-jokes.) Sorry to see Smith's self-referential ViewAskewniverse go! Ghost World is next on the agenda. /hal, in a celluloid mood ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:00:21 -0400 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: Jay Bob & Dan "you are tasteless." No, really, just because you asked. I'm a big fan of all the "jersey trilogy" flicks (now up to #5 in the "trilogy"), with the possible exception of Clerks. I'm a-fixing to go to J&SBSB (just as soon as I find a babysitter...) & I urge you all to do the same (if, for no other reason, than to help Kev make the top 10 grossing films for the weekend... or, to put it another way, to show your support for independent (kinda) movies over, say, "Bubble Boy." my wife got me a signed "Dogma" special edition DVD for our anniversary. Awwww.... Ghost World: excellent. While being different than the book (and, if you haven't read Dan Clowes stuff -- do so, starting with "Like A Velvet Glove...," "Ghost World," and, perhaps, "Lloyd Llewellyn" (sorry for the butchered spelling to those welshies on the list). Everything in "Eightball" is great, but the collections I mentioned are a nice place to start. Oh, yeah, and "David Boring" too), the movie does a great job of capturing Clowes' atmospherics (and oddball characters) really well. Buscemi is, as always, dead on. Thora Birch -- whatever you may think of American Beauty (and I didn't really get all the hullabaloo there myself, though I thought it a decent sort of a flick) is great as Enid. - -----Original Message----- From: HAL [mailto:hbrandt@milehigh.net] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 4:50 PM To: the most overrated Subject: just what i needed OK, call me tasteless, but "Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back" was just the thing I needed to get me out of the sweltering August summer movie doldrums...an old fashioned Sex, Drugs and Rock 'n' Roll film (with lots of comicbook in-jokes.) Sorry to see Smith's self-referential ViewAskewniverse go! Ghost World is next on the agenda. /hal, in a celluloid mood ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. 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I sometimes like his just-post-motorcycle-accident period best, when he wrote shorter songs for other people. I still stand by "I Shall Be Unreleased" the Rhino comp I'm sure you know. Now I have to get the CD for the extra tracks. I like pop versions of Dylan. Jason & the Scorchers did a nice version of Absolutely Sweet Marie, as did the Flaming Groovies. Ron Wood did Seven Days in '78, about when XTC did a noisy All Along the Watchtower (at least it's better than the U2 version). There's a Hendrix tribute I haven't heard w/ Taj Mahal doing Watchtower. Might be good, his Honky Tonk Women on the Stones tribute was hilarious, sounding like he's on a broke down porch w/ chicken pecking around his feet. I'll Keep It With Mine--you don't like Baez' version? This sends me off to favorite Amazon time-waste: plugging in song titles & seeing who did them. Ross Taylor sniffin' drainpipes & recitin' the alphabet Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:15:01 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: ministry of silly fegs On Friday, August 24, 2001, at 11:03 AM, scary mary wrote: > stbw (soon to be watching) - The Complete Monty Python Flying Circus > dvd set - just got them - 14 discs containing every season. Look out > sofa, here I come... We all owe a debt of gratitude to KERA TV, Ch. 13, in Dallas, Texas for not only bringing Python to the USofA, but also saving the show for all of humanity. As I understand it, the BBC was *one week* away from reusing the tapes when the then program director insisted that there was an audience for it in the colonies. - - Steve __________ Science does not, as the president's speechwriters suggested, hold solutions to all human deficiencies. Gazing upon this president, who came to office under questionable and, some suggest, illegal means, one can not help but pray that he, himself, might turn out to be the poster boy for those who oppose cloning. - Les Payne, Newsday ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:19:25 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Jay Bob & Dan/ Max's Anger Management Vent >No, really, just because you asked. I'm a big fan of all the "jersey >trilogy" flicks (now up to #5 in the "trilogy"), with the possible >exception >of Clerks. I used to live in Lincroft/Red Bank where all these movies take place. I liked the indie spirit of Clerks a lot. The next one I saw was Chasing Amy. Well...It was really cool to see the storefront Jack's Records on the big screen. I really doubt I will ever go to see another of his movies. Which is not to say I don't admire him, he just strikes me as a hollywood flavor of the month that long ago reached it's expiration date. I'm not going to say that there were not moments in Amy that didn't make me chuckle, it's just that overall the movie showed it's makers age in all to glaring a fashion. I would like to say that I believe that Jason Mewes is perhaps the worst actor with a regular gig in features. I would not be surprised if the character is named Jay as to avoid confusing him. He would have problems acting his was out of a wet paper bag...that was open. I also wonder how he can make movies that connect through common characters, some of which reappear and some of which are relatives, yet Ben Affleck appears as different characters in (count'em) three movies. I know, I know it's only the movies, willing suspense of disbelief blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda. So to sum it up: Kevin Smith, PLEASE HIRE A SCREENWRITER!!! Thank you for listening, Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:22:37 -0500 From: "Sweet & Tender Hooligan" Subject: Re: Jay Bob & Dan/ Max's Anger Management Vent > So to sum it up: Kevin Smith, PLEASE HIRE A SCREENWRITER!!! Uh, no. The screenplay is what make a Kevin Smith movie worth seeing. He sucks as a director. His dialogue and monologues, however, are often priceless. - - s&th cirhsein@yahoo.com All of us are mad. If it weren't for the fact that every one of us is slightly abnormal, there wouldn't be any point in giving each person a separate name. " - Betti Ugo ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:24:39 -0700 From: "Andrew D. Simchik" Subject: cake walk the walk So as usual all I have to do is post about how much I hate a band, then when I listen to them I find I don't totally hate them. I thought it was going to be the usual massive reversal with Cake, but it's just a relenting. I just listened to the new album. I *love* most of the lyrics, actually, but I only like a few of the tunes. I think it's his voice that bothers me more than anything (again, as usual), but on the tracks I like it's less abrasive, actually sounding like TMBG (somewhere between Flansburgh and Linnell) a bit. I'm trying a few of the other albums now but it's not helping. At least I can say now that I Understand The Appeal, though. Next up: Basement Jaxx. Drew - -- Andrew D. Simchik, drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 16:31:44 -0500 From: steve Subject: Natalie Jane's big chance When was the last time you went to a mainstream movie theatre and there were no commercials and only one trailer? It happened to us this morning when we went to see J&SBSB. But what a trailer! Miramax will be doing a theatrical release of IRON MONKEY sometime this Fall. Can other classics be far behind? http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.923/qx/details.htm - - Steve __________ Calling George W. Bush and Jesse Helms "public servants" is like calling Iran-contra criminal Elliott Abrams an "outstanding diplomat"--which is precisely what White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer did when he announced Abrams' appointment as senior director of the National Security Council's Office for Democracy, Human Rights and International Operations. - Terry J. Allen, In These Times ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:41:08 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Jay Bob & Dan/ Max's Anger Management Vent s&th wrote: >Uh, no. The screenplay is what make a Kevin Smith movie worth seeing. He >sucks as a director. His dialogue and monologues, however, are often >priceless. Well, no, he is no Orson Welles or Alfred Hitchcock(is this now on topic?) but I like the feel of his direction. His movies have a small feel, that is perhaps what I like best about them(the few I have seen). There a plenty of big budget films that have total hack direction (can anyone say Ivan Rietman?)yet I really think are funny. With a decent script and a world class cinematographer you might think differently about his Smiths direction. He has a somewhat raw talent for sure. I doubt he went to film school(I could be wrong). But none of the first generation of filmmakers did either. I just happen to admire his style yet find his screenwriting to be puerile. Thanks, Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 14:43:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Natalie Jane Jacobs Subject: un-insightful as always >aw come on. Everyone here knows Natalie is sweet woogums to Tom's >smidgeon fluflet. Uh... if you say so! Seriously, though, I love Tom and have only tried to kill him once, and if he hates Neutral Milk Hotel, then that means there's more for the rest of us! (Live Jeff Mangum album coming out on Aug. 28, to the best of my knowledge...) But while we're at it: >And fuck you, everybody. Fuck you one and all. Fuck you too, Jason R. Thornton!!! There, I think that's enough for one day. gnat "fuck-ass rock and roll!!" the gnatster - -- Natalie Jane Jacobs gnat@bitmine.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:42:51 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Fegrotica On Fri, Aug 24, 2001, Budd Leia wrote: > Thanks James for getting Husker Du into 87's greatest hits:-) Ditto. :) > I never really listened to the Jam (not sure how that happened but it did.) > And Ive always -ment- to listen to them. If I put Jam into Morpheus I get > deluged with Pearl Jam. Are their specific song titles I should enter which > will wow my socks off? Anything from the album Setting Sons is a safe bet. Better yet, just go out and buy it! :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 22:54:11 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: Re: un-insightful as always Being the new crud on the block, I feel that it would be a little forward of me to join in this curse fest! But I hope you'll all let me join in once I've proven myself ;0) Ash Ra Rotten... > >And fuck you, everybody. Fuck you one and all. > > Fuck you too, Jason R. Thornton!!! > Natalie Jane Jacobs > gnat@bitmine.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:04:52 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: 1987, I hope I go to the 7-11 > > Thanks James for getting Husker Du into 87's greatest hits:-) > > Ditto. :) Now it's my turn! Eb mentioned "Warehouse" in his original post in this thread, over two days ago. So maybe he's not such a bad guy after all! OTOH, he did fail to mention "Mainstream" by Lloyd Cole & the Commotions. And, *inexplicably,* The Smiths' "Strangeways Here We Come"... John "75% badder than the rest" Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 15:32:17 -0700 From: Eb Subject: the most Friday traffic in months? JH3: >Eb mentioned "Warehouse" in his original post >in this thread, over two days ago. So maybe he's not such a bad >guy after all! Hm. Somehow, I don't think I can get away with jovially shouting "Fuck you!" like everyone else. ;) Actually, I listened to Warehouse only a few weeks ago, because I bought a secondhand CD to replace the cassette I've had for years. Good stuff, though Husker Du has definitely done better. >"Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back" was just the thing I needed I'd like to see that at some point, but the best film I've seen lately (besides "O Brother, Where Art Thou?") was a rather different animal: D.W. Griffith's "Orphans of the Storm." Totally captivated me. Remarkably well-directed for a 1922 film, with genuine suspense and pathos. I'm a bit puzzled at the volume of backlash Kevin Smith receives, nowadays. I don't have any complaints about his direction. I wouldn't pick him to direct a three-hour WWII epic, but his no-frills style fits his own dialogue-based material very well. And I still think "Dogma" was brilliantly original. Then again, maybe I will like him less after I see "Mallrats" (I haven't yet). I have been on this list for five years. I am not a perfect man and I have made mistakes.... Eb (is Lillian Gish a heartbreaker, or what?) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 11:09:53 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Dylan and other covers >Byrds-- You Aint Going Nowhere*** > All I Realy Want to Do* >Them-- Baby Blue* >Baez-- Love is Just a 4 Letter Word*** >Judy Collins -- Daddy, youve Been On My Mind* >Rod Stewert -- Rest in My Bed* > One Too Many Mornings >Turtles -- It Aint Me Babe >Band -- I Shall Be Released*** > Wheels of Fire? > Tears of Rage? >Peter, Paul & Mary -- Too Much of Nothing************************** >Fairport Convention -- Percy's Song*** >Manfred Mann -- Might Quinn* >Hendrix -- Watchtower >Now--can anyone suggest more recent stuff I dont know about? Or just plain >stuff I dont know about? - - George Harrison's version of "If not for you?" - - Fairport's "Si tu dois partir"? - - anything covered by the Hollies? - - I'd add Paul Ubana Jones's wonderful version of "It takes a lot to laugh...", but you'll have never heard of him >Are their good covers of :One Too Many Mornings, Love - 0, She Belongs to >Me, Like A Rolling Stone, Takes a Lot to Laugh, Highway 61, Tangled Up in >Blue, Simple Twist of Fate, Desolation Row, Visions of Johanna, One of Us >Must Know, Sweet Marie, Sad-Eyed Lady, I Dreamed I Saw St Augustine, Tangled >Up in Blue, Simple Twist of Fate, Lily, Rosmary and the Jack of Hearts, >shelter from the Storm? see above for ITALTLITATTC - and Robyn's version of "Visions of Johanna" is about as good as you'll get! I'm sure I've heard a cover of Love minus zero no limit, but I can't for the life of me think who by... >and of course: >'I'll be your baby tonight' by Blossom Toes with its unforgettable 'Shoo >be do wah be DO wah' fadeout. naw. Ya gotta go for the Robert Palmer version :) As for covers albums (expect an Eb "ehh" or two here...) Icehouse's "The Berlin Tapes" is also the best thing they've done in decades. The Church's "Box of Birds" - as much for the startling choice of songs ("It's all too much"? "The porpoise song"???) as anything else. >stbw (soon to be watching) - The Complete Monty Python Flying Circus dvd >set - just got them - 14 discs containing every season. Look out sofa, here >I come... the sofa? Not the comfy chair? (all together now...) >>I prefer it to Ocean Rain, but only because the bass is out of tune at >>several key points in O.R. ("Villiers Terrace", f'rinstance). It ruins an >>otherise fine album > >Methinks you're thinking of "Crocodiles." Or a different song, perhaps. ulp. Crocodiles. Right. Ocean Rain is a goody. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #318 ********************************