From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #311 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, August 22 2001 Volume 10 : Number 311 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V10 #310 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Hollywood Bowl vs. The Greek ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Hollywood Bowl vs. The Greek [Eb ] hallelujah I adore it ["victorian squid" ] Cracked Actor ["victorian squid" ] The Day They Ate Brick ["Ultimate Goal" ] Re: Cracked Actor ["Ultimate Goal" ] Re: Fish a wah-wah [steve ] Re: Cracked Actor [Eb ] Any Shack in a Storm [Eb ] Bowie? [Mike Swedene ] Robyn, Edinburgh, plus FREE tablet recipe ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: David Gray (no Robyn) ["lucifersam" ] Re: David Gray (no Robyn) ["matt sewell" ] Re: Cracked Actor ["lucifersam" ] 1987..... ["lucifersam" ] Soft Boys / Pretty Things ["lucifersam" ] URGENT: BBC Online - Radio3 - World and New - Edinburgh ["Stewart C. Russ] BBC Online - Radio3- Friday Aug 24 ["Stewart C. Russell" RIP Les Sealey - former Coventry City goalkeeper and Luton and Man U, too. That's two goalkeepers in the last month - what with Portsmouth's keeper Aaron Flahavan dying recently. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:21:12 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Hollywood Bowl vs. The Greek I was going to write a long review, but didn't get around to it today... I saw Radiohead at the Hollywood Bowl last night, with the Beta Band and Kid Koala opening. To paraphrase Eddie, this may well have been the greatest concert experience of my life, second only to the first time I saw Radiohead, 10 months ago at the Greek. I'm sure part of the power of the Greek show stemmed from the intimacy (our seats were really good) and the mystique surrounding that particular performance. My seats were only OK this time around, a little bit far away. But the sound was great, even in back-ish areas. And the band seemed able to connect to the crowd, despite the size and distance. Luckily, I was able to move up halfway through Radiohead's set to a seat much closer to the stage - one of the girls in my group was embarrassed by the way her boyfriend was dancing, and actually came up to switch places with me. In her defense, he was kinda freaking out. But, I think "Paranoid Android" kind of wore him out, and he settled down a bit. I was further awed by how well the Kid A/Amnesiac material comes across live - very punchy and tight, thick with atmosphere and emotion. Just a great show - my attention never waned (except during my excursion down the aisles). The Beta Band was pretty impressive live, too - they didn't get through many songs during their hour long set, because they tend to go off on long jams. I missed most of Kid Koala's spinning, but he seemed well-received. The parking at the Hollywood Bowl was horrendous, and it took me forever finding one of the park-and-ride lots some distance from the venue. The soap dispensers in the restrooms worked well, though. Didn't see any of the beautiful famous people this time around, but I read in a review that some fellow bumped into Brad Pitt and Ed Norton in the beer line. Cheers! Jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:59:55 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Hollywood Bowl vs. The Greek Jason: >To paraphrase Eddie, this may well have been the greatest >concert experience of my life, second only to the first time I saw >Radiohead, 10 months ago at the Greek. Arrrrrgh. ;) >one of the girls in my group was embarrassed by the way her >boyfriend was dancing, and actually came up to switch places with me. In >her defense, he was kinda freaking out. Heh heh. Boy, have I got a match for him: that spastic girl at the Tool show. :) However, I'm baffled at how anyone could be embarrassed by a friend's freaky dancing while watching pseudo-epileptic *Thom Yorke* perform -- yeesh! >The parking at the Hollywood Bowl was horrendous, and it took me forever >finding one of the park-and-ride lots some distance from the venue. When I went there for the Who and Brian Wilson last year, I just ended up parking way the heck down Highland, near Aron's Records. The walk isn't too bad...lots of interesting sights on the way. Thanks for contributing some musical content to the list, in any case. My own Pleasure Forever "report" is overdue. Maybe a bit later tonight. I managed a way to see that Bowie/Cracked Actor profile on BBC America...pretty good stuff, though I would've preferred such a film made during just about *any* '70s Bowie period rather than that Philly Soul/Young Americans era. I don't even own the Young Americans or David Live albums! I was most interested to see Bowie demonstrating his "cut-up" lyric strategy...I didn't think he used this method until a few years later during the Eno trilogy. Hm. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:48:28 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: hallelujah I adore it On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:54:35 Rue'd Beccia wrote: >Havent seen Hedwig but want to. I only mentioned it because it's a somewhat edgy work by a geezer of 38 (the songs rock too :)). I would recommend it highly to those who think Ziggy Stardust and Plato's Symposium are two great tastes that might taste great together. If anyone is on the fence and thinks they'd prefer to wait and rent it, trust me, you should get off your duff and go to a theater should the opportunity present itself. This is the kind of movie where the large screen and theater sound system make a great difference to your enjoyment. It's a real big-screen movie, rare enough these days outside the blockbuster genre, but even more of an achievement when you consider that this was translated from the stage. >on and off. At any age. And thanks for making me feel >good bout -not- having a bob:-). Have a look at Emmylou Harris. She looks gorgeous. I wish I looked that good -now-. I personally think the whole thing is sort of odd. It seems (to me) to have derived from some unspoken notion that long hair is somehow sexually flaunting and that it's unseemly for older women to be flaunting in such a way because only young women should be -obviously- worrying about their looks. Personally, I'd not want the maintenance hassle of a waist-length mane at any age (plus my hair starts looking straggly about mid-shoulderblade length), but YMMV :). In any event, this all reminded me of a wonderful poem, called "Warning". UK posters will probably be familiar with (and quite possibly tired of) this already. It's too long to post here and I don't want to inflict any non-consensual poetry, so here's a link. http://home1.gte.net/phaynen/purple.htm loveonya, susan Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:17:11 -0700 From: "victorian squid" Subject: Cracked Actor On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:59:55 Eb wrote: >during just about *any* '70s Bowie period rather than that >Philly Soul/Young Americans era. Eh? No "Young Americans" at all there aside from that one or two minute segment at the end. Was that odd. It almost looked as tho it was intended as a setup for a sequel. >I was most interested to see Bowie demonstrating his >"cut-up" lyric strategy. What struck me was his manner. I've seen more terrified individuals, but offhand I can't remember when. His speech was halting and nervous, he looked at the floor most of the time, and usually had his right (cig-holding) arm tightly crossed over his chest. He really did appear to be on the verge of some kind of mental/emotional collapse. Yes, I know that's not news, but it's one thing to know about it and another to watch it. There were two moments that I'll never forget. One where he was performing Brel's "My Death", and he gets to the last line "in front of that door, there is...." and before he sings "you" people in the audience yell "us". Graciously he smiles and says "thank you" or some such appropriate thing, but it's so obvious that he meant something else (maybe a "generic you", maybe a specific person, maybe nothing, who knows, I just know he didn't mean the audience) and that there's a profound disconnect between him and the crowd. They don't -get- him. Another moment is when he's watching some footage of himself performing as Ziggy (I think it's from what would later become "Rise and Fall") and the look on his face is kind of.....I dunno, but I won't forget it anytime soon. I guess it could be best described as a cross between embarassment and revulsion, with a small dash of fear. loveonya, susan Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:19:39 -0400 From: "Ultimate Goal" Subject: The Day They Ate Brick Hello all, I was recently fotunate enough to run into a mint copy of the Soft Boys 'boot' The Day They Ate Brick. I don't believe this copy has ever been played. Question for any body who has a copy of this (Eddie?): Is your vinyl clear plastic? Mine is. I'm just wondering if this is a reprint 'boot' or not. Just Curious. I plan on getting a nice CD recording of it when I get a new needle etc. Thanks, Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:29:31 -0400 From: "Ultimate Goal" Subject: Re: Cracked Actor If anyone has a tape of this I could get I would be most greatful and compensating. Please let me know! Nuppy >From: "victorian squid" >Reply-To: "victorian squid" >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Cracked Actor >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:17:11 -0700 > >On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:59:55 Eb wrote: > > >during just about *any* '70s Bowie period rather than that > >Philly Soul/Young Americans era. > >Eh? No "Young Americans" at all there aside from that one or >two minute segment at the end. Was that odd. It almost looked >as tho it was intended as a setup for a sequel. > > >I was most interested to see Bowie demonstrating his > >"cut-up" lyric strategy. > >What struck me was his manner. I've seen more terrified >individuals, but offhand I can't remember when. His speech >was halting and nervous, he looked at the floor most of the >time, and usually had his right (cig-holding) arm tightly >crossed over his chest. He really did appear to be on the >verge of some kind of mental/emotional collapse. Yes, I know >that's not news, but it's one thing to know about it and >another to watch it. > >There were two moments that I'll never forget. One where he >was performing Brel's "My Death", and he gets to the last >line "in front of that door, there is...." and before he >sings "you" people in the audience yell "us". Graciously he >smiles and says "thank you" or some such appropriate thing, >but it's so obvious that he meant something else (maybe a >"generic you", maybe a specific person, maybe nothing, who >knows, I just know he didn't mean the audience) and that >there's a profound disconnect between him and the crowd. >They don't -get- him. Another moment is when he's watching >some footage of himself performing as Ziggy (I think it's >from what would later become "Rise and Fall") and the look on >his face is kind of.....I dunno, but I won't forget it anytime >soon. I guess it could be best described as a cross between embarassment >and revulsion, with a small dash of fear. > >loveonya, >susan > > > > > >Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail >account at http://www.eudoramail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:46:57 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Fish a wah-wah On Tuesday, August 21, 2001, at 11:21 AM, Rue'd Beccia wrote: > > The new wah-wah pedal: > > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991162 > > "A simple facial-recognition algorythm that isolates the shawdowy area > inside the mouth" > > Just think of the stage-grimances -this- will produce. Rawk guitar > goddom just got a tinsy winsy bit more ridiculous. The World had a report on this tonight as I was driving over to Fry's to look for Zeram 2 on DVD. I fearlessly predict that it will do just as well as the Key Cat, or whatever that thing was called. But it could work for keyboard players, as long as they have enough equipment to hide them from the audience. No luck on Zeram 2, but I did find Tsui Hark's just released Time and Tide. And I saw one of those cheap Canadian DVD releases of a strange looking film called Hit Lady. - - Steve __________ Which wild child daughter of a politico was smoking pot at an L.A. party? The hard-partying lass puffed right under the nose of the minders who try to keep her out of trouble. Answer: Jenna Bush - New York Post, 7/25/01 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 20:18:52 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Cracked Actor >>during just about *any* '70s Bowie period rather than that >>Philly Soul/Young Americans era. > >Eh? No "Young Americans" at all there aside from that one or >two minute segment at the end. The current performance footage was from that period...slick, saxy "soul" versions of his earlier hits. And Bowie's look (the hair, the suit) in the interview clips was definitely from that era. Not sure what your point is, here. Much of the narrative concerned Bowie retiring the Ziggy Stardust character, and he was nowhere near his Thin White Duke period yet...what do YOU think came between those two phases? loveonya, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 21:06:29 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Any Shack in a Storm Whew. I really visited the belly of the beast, Sunday night. Another one of those shows just *buried* in the indie ghetto, where you feel a bit sheepish even being there. However, it may have been an Orange County thing - -- O.C. shows have such a different flavor from L.A. ones. O.C. audiences typically seem younger, dumber, greasier and stocked with cliched indie-kid wear.... I wanted to see Pleasure Forever, a new Sub Pop trio which lands somewhere between Nick Cave and Firewater. They played three nights earlier in Hollywood at my frequent haunt Spaceland, but this Santa Ana venue was half the distance away. So, I chose the latter show. It may have been an unwise tactical choice. Oddly, the venue turned out to be more of an attraction than the music itself. I had never been to "Koo's Art Cafe" before, nor had I even driven by it. Its website (http://www.koos.org) makes it seem like a shining member of the community, with all sorts of public-service programs and the like. Look for yourself. Plus, the venue is all ages and doesn't serve alcohol. So, I was picturing something strangely mainstream -- maybe the atmosphere of a YMCA utility room? Boy, was I wrong! The above website posts a good map to the place, borrowed from MapQuest. So, I drove straight to the nearest major intersection with no problems. However, the place was so unlikely and weakly marked that I drove right past it, once I turned on the right street. I turned around, realizing I had gone several blocks too far, and headed back. I *still* didn't see it on the way back! However, the street numbers indicated it had to be *somewhere* around there, so I parked and decided to look on foot. No wonder I couldn't find it. Older areas of Orange County are full of ancient wooden houses which aren't well-maintained. If they're lucky, they become protected landmarks. If they're unlucky, they sit there looking derelict. Often, they're home to some small business (hair salon, bookstore, real estate, whatever) which seems totally incongruous with the decor. Koo's is one such place. The house was two stories, rickety, white (but in dire need of paint) and bordered with a crummy white-picket fence, and had unruly trees blocking most of the home's street view. My only visual clue was a small, illuminated "Koo's Art Cafe" sign mounted on the second story. Weird. I noted some kids sitting at tables around the short yard out front, and I approached the fence's gate. Oops, it's locked. Now what? A guy pointed me around the side, so I walked around the right side and found another gate in back, this one manned by the moneytakers at a small card table. I was supposed to be on a guest list, but I'm not sure they even had one. However, they quickly wrote down my name and let me in on faith, probably just because I looked so damned out of place! Ha. As I entered, I noted these three guys were deeply immersed in some sort of personal art contest, and all had geometric little 8.5 x 11 drawings in progress. Heavy, man. Behind the house was a garage and a barren yard of weeds, surrounded by a stone fence. This is apparently some sort of sanctioned community graffiti space, and the inside of the fence was covered with mildly artistic lettering and pictures. The place just grew odder and odder. A ticket guy told me it was formerly "Koo's Chinese Restaurant" in its previous incarnation, but darned if I can see how this place satisfied the health inspector enough to stay open in that guise. Maybe it didn't. The second-story rooms looked a little better maintained, and I gather that's where the club's "business offices" are. There was a typical, old-fashioned porch, and beyond that, the house's "front door" (i.e., the club's main entrance). There was a merchandise table on the porch with a kid selling CDs, LPs and singles. They were mostly still shrinkwrapped -- I guess the guy had a little business for himself, buying hipster stuff at wholesale prices and selling it for profit at shows. At least, that's what he told me. I hadn't heard of *one* band he was selling. Sheesh. But I guess the little girls understand...I actually did see a few people buying things. The performance space was the home's former living room. The bands sing on the right side of the room, facing toward the left. No stage whatsoever. Behind the band, the side of the house was almost all windows, so crowd-shy folks in the yard could watch the band from behind. The ceiling was painted with sort of a psychedelic sky design. The air *reeked* of stale sweat -- maybe that's why so many folks watched from the yard? The room was full, and I couldn't see much of a path through the people. I left and tried a second door around the side, which had a ramp leading up to it. I think I could've broken down the ramp's railing with about two good kicks. It's bizarre how this house has been Frankensteined into a "cafe." Upon entering the side door, I found a small sitting room adjacent to the performance space. The prime decor was an old pinball machine and an even older piano whose keys were about half-functional. Beyond that was another small room, which had a "news stand" with errant freebie magazines/flyers plus the "food counter." I wish I could recall the exact menu, but it was just three items! All drinks. Maybe coffee, milk and Coke? I wonder if any drinks were sold, all night. I don't recall seeing anyone holding one. They sure loved their cigarettes, though -- everyone in the yard was puff-puff-puffing away. And the main room went stark empty between each set, as the audience rushed outside to suck on death. I guess I've covered the decor, well enough. Really, that was the best part of the trip. When I arrived, a band called Grand Elegance (?) was performing. Kinda grungy, but with a keyboardist. Whatever. I tried to time my arrival so I'd miss the three opening bands, but I still arrived too early. About a hour and a half was left before Pleasure Forever. Gawd, this time was not going to pass quickly. I mostly leaned against the porch for the Grand Elegance set, plus the next set by "The Lost Kids." The band included ex-members of Starlight Desperation, the CD-seller told me happily. Uhhh...is that a good thing? :) Two guys, two girls, a bit punkier. Whatever. By now, I had transferred to the news-stand room, and spent that set flipping through the new Pulse magazine. Whew, a brutal review of McCartney's Wingspan compilation. I got a kick out of that. Around this time, I started seeing members of Pleasure Forever (http://www.cloudmachine.com/pleasureforever/), and their own merchandise guy started setting up on the porch with CDs, vinyl, singles, buttons and shirts. I was mildly tempted by a CD5 with non-album tracks and the CD the group previously released under the name "Slaves," but I resisted. At this point, I also made a surprising discovery. The Pleasure Forever cover pictures the band's three members: two rather ordinary-looking guys, and a dapper, Cave-like dude with greased black hair and a chic black suit. I casually assumed the latter was the singer, since he was the most photogenic and image-conscious. Turns out he's the *drummer*. Oooops. The singer/keyboardist is one of the others...he looks a lot like a lesser Penn brother. I kept picturing the movie poster for that awful "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" sequel, "The Wild Life." ;) Mmm...I don't have a lot to say about the set. The house was the dominant feature, rather than music. I believe the trio only played six tunes, but their songs are somewhat long so the set lasted about 45 minutes. Some technical problems chewed up some more time -- the guitarist had to emergency-borrow some duct tape from the Lost Kids, in the middle. The keyboards were a mess, too. Repair tape all over them. The bottom keyboard was a Roland Juno-6, which made me smile because my own old synthesizer is a nearly identical Juno-60. (I can only recall seeing a Juno-60 onstage *once*, at a past Cibo Matto show.) There was no bassist, and the singer/keyboardist often played basslines on the upper keyboard. Many of his parts would've sounded better on piano -- too bad the band is too small-time to be able to lug the real thing around. Just as on the album cover, the guitarist and keyboardist were basically dressed in street clothes, while the drummer was flashy and suave in black. The neatly greased hair didn't last long, and was freely flopping after one song. Meanwhile, the singer may be the most pigeontoed vocalist since the young Elvis Costello -- his mike was positioned a bit high, so he always looked like he was standing on pigeon-tiptoe. :) The mix/acoustics were rehearsal-quality, naturally. Early in the set, the singer asked the sound guy if they could add any vocal reverb. The response was a laugh, and something like "Where do you think are??" Heh. The best song was also my favorite from the album: "Any Port in a Storm." The group adores carnival-esque, waltzing instrumental breaks, and about half the songs included some form of this. Imagine the Doors' version of "The Alabama Song." That's the vibe. Surprisingly, more people watched the previous two bands than Pleasure Forever -- gee, remember when Sub Pop acts almost automatically had a "buzz" about them? Those were the days.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:11:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Bowie? Did anyone tape the Bowie program on BBC America? My VCR decided to tape something else. Anyone willing to trade a copy of it? I have kind of, updated my list and it can be found here: http://midy.topcities.com/ Thanks! Herbie np-> Weezer "My Name Is Jonas" Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:14:40 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Robyn, Edinburgh, plus FREE tablet recipe I do hope that Robyn's Edinburgh/Kershaw gig wasn't last night, as I was too jetlagged to make it. Has anyone found out more? Here's the recipe: http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/tablet.html -- it is, I have to say, the best thing ever. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:03:14 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: David Gray (no Robyn) Sweet & Tender Hooligan wrote: > > Anyone here a fan of David Gray? file under "Music Your Mum Would Like", if there's space after all those Travis CDs. - -- Stewart C. Russell Senior Analyst Programmer stewart@ref.collins.co.uk Collins Dictionaries use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Bishopbriggs, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:01:28 From: "marcus slade" Subject: Soft Boy's photo's & live dates Hi There, I subscribe to the digest and sometimes gloss over the less Robyn related content so may have missed mention of these, but, underwatermoonlight.com has a series of photo's from the Clerkenwell show here http://www.underwatermoonlight.com/photosclerk.html And also has a new live date at The Square in Harlow, Essex on the 18th October. The night before the Pretty Things show in London. Marcus _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:30:34 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: Re: David Gray (no Robyn) Dont forget the hideous Cold Play and that 'moonlight' lot... christ, what has happened to the youth of today!? > Sweet & Tender Hooligan wrote: > > > > Anyone here a fan of David Gray? > > file under "Music Your Mum Would Like", if there's space after all those > Travis CDs. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:56:18 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: David Gray (no Robyn) You mean Travisophonicsloader Street Coldplayers? As the very Jim Davis said to me the other day, the music scene at the moment is tantamount to 1987... and sad to say it looks set to get worse - - that bloke that wrote the article berating the senior citizens of rock should look at the guitar bands of today... most of them are twice as decrepit, despite being a half or even a quarter the age of say, Mick Jagger... Bah! Matt PS Don't talk to me about Radiohead, either... bloody stadium-size Pink Floyd all over again. When will people realise NEVER to go to a gig where you can't see the whites of their eyes! >From: "lucifersam" >Reply-To: "lucifersam" >CC: >Subject: Re: David Gray (no Robyn) >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:30:34 +0100 > >Dont forget the hideous Cold Play and that 'moonlight' lot... >christ, what has happened to the youth of today!? > > > > Sweet & Tender Hooligan wrote: > > > > > > Anyone here a fan of David Gray? > > > > file under "Music Your Mum Would Like", if there's space after all those > > Travis CDs. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:38:46 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: Re: Cracked Actor I think You'll find that wthis was due to a very large intake of cocaine at the time.Anyone who has indulged in the odd toot of the old Columbian Marching powder can tell you, that one of the by products of such indulgance can be mucho paranoia. Notice also how he was sniffing all the time, another dead give away. also the fact that he was not eating (it takes away the appitite) and was laying into that milk carton in the back of the car like it was his last drink (Charlie dehidrates like hell). I've had it on video for years, it's been repeated in UK several times since it was made. Great stuff. Probably very painfull for him to look at now. He had a massive habit at that time. Made some brilliant records though! ;0) From: victorian squid To: > What struck me was his manner. I've seen more terrified > individuals, but offhand I can't remember when ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:00:33 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: 1987..... Gotta say, I thought that 1987 was better than most. The advent of Acid House, which shook everything up and changed a lot of things...;0) the music scene at the moment is tantamount to 1987... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:05:03 +0100 From: "lucifersam" Subject: Soft Boys / Pretty Things I believe that The Pretty Things will be performing a full rendition of 'SF Sorrow' on 19th October. One of the all time great LP's. Up there with 'Piper' and 'Sgt Pepper' (better than IMO) as one of the 3 great UK 60's LP's.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:22:53 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: URGENT: BBC Online - Radio3 - World and New - Edinburgh It's tonight after all!! 10pm BST -- live webcast. Please, somebody work out how to archive it... http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/edinburgh/index.shtml - -- Stewart C. Russell Senior Analyst Programmer stewart@ref.collins.co.uk Collins Dictionaries use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Bishopbriggs, Scotland [TABLE NOT SHOWN] [IMAGE][TABLE NOT SHOWN] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:44:48 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: BBC Online - Radio3- Friday Aug 24 Robyn on BBC Radio 3 at 22:30: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-perl/whatson/search/daylist.cgi?tmp=whatson%2Fsdk%2Fradio3%2Fdaylist.tmpl&service_id=49699&day=Friday ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #311 ********************************