From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #305 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, August 15 2001 Volume 10 : Number 305 Today's Subjects: ----------------- warning! eyeball-related content! [Natalie Jane Jacobs ] RE: Its all happening in Terre Haute ["da9ve stovall" ] Re: King Crimsooooooooooon, dude! ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: for those still interested in this marginal talent ;) [Jeff Dwarf ] Inside the lids ["Rude Becky of Goldstrum" ] Re: BWRK [Michael R Godwin ] Lee Harvey Oswald - LIVE! ["Sweet & Tender Hooligan" ] Re: Lee Harvey Oswald - LIVE! [Ken Weingold ] Re: Lee Harvey Oswald - LIVE! [strange little woj ] Re: BWRK ["ross taylor" ] Re: Feg Caps Question [JH3 ] Re: Feg Caps Question [jill sunderlin ] sb tree #2 is on the move and coming to your mailbox soon [jill sunderlin] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:41:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Natalie Jane Jacobs Subject: warning! eyeball-related content! >The grain >appears to be in constant motion, but is never >so coarse as to distort or obscure anything I'm >looking at. I would assume that these grains are actually bits of stuff floating about inside your vitreous humor (the liquid inside your eye). I can usually see these grainy things when I look at a bright light-colored surface. Some people get rather larger bits floating about, which are called (naturally) "floaters." n., fondly recalling the eye surgeries - -- Natalie Jane Jacobs gnat@bitmine.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:40:22 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Tooooooooool, dude! Damn, just two posts today? This list sure is in a rut. Hopefully, it's a "lull" rather than a "decline." Last night, I saw Tool (hi Eddie!) and King Crimson at the plush Wiltern Theater. I can't say it was the weakest show I've seen this year, but it was close. I *entered* the show with a headache, and the music didn't exactly cure it. I was pretty relieved when the music finally ended. My seat was about 25-30 rows back, which is not great but fine. However, I did find myself wishing that I had binoculars, simply because both bands had pivotal members who were basically *unlit* throughout the entire sets! This was my fourth King Crimson show (twice in '84, once in '95), and it was the worst of the four by a wide margin. No Levin and no Bruford equalled a major loss of charisma and instrumental appeal.The band was far more dressed down than I've seen them before -- seems like you could always depend on the lads (particularly Belew) for some brightly colored suits and visual pizzazz. Not this time. Belew was just in a dark, monochromatic T-shirt and pants, and looked like he was still wearing his travel clothes. Ditto for bassist Trey Gunn, who was in a casual sweater. No stage presence for Gunn, whatsoever. He was so mellow and reserved that he almost looked like he was *faking* playing his trademark W.A.R.R. guitar. I definitely missed the suave physicality of Levin's splayed-leg swaying, "Funk Fingers," etc. As for His Highness the Fripp...he was in the dark. Sat at a stool on the right, facing inward toward Belew. Never directly lit, and I couldn't even tell you what he was wearing (gray suit?) or how much he might have aged since I last saw him. The set ran about a hour, and was predictably dominated by ConstruKCtion of Light material. Of course, we know the music is loaded with difficult tempos and rhythms, and the group performs it expertly. But...that isn't enough. The band definitely wasn't seeking to win over the Tool crowd, because the music was mostly inaccessible instrumental work. (Fripp pander? Perish the thought.) "Frying Pan" was the only recent composition which would do anything for the average Tool fan, and was one of only two songs which included vocals. There was an instrumental introduced as a new track from a future album (!), but I didn't understand the title. ("Level" something?) That was the most depressing part of all, because the piece was 100% rehash. Sounded like bits and pieces of at least two-dozen other King Crimson works. All the usual tricks. The irregularly spaced chord stutters. The dead stops, as transitions into new sections. The breaks, where Belew does his downward "chingling" guitar-picking. A main theme in 7 time, whoopee. And of course, everything was based on diminished tritone intervals. Major deja vu. Fripp is in a creative cul-de-sac, and his music has lapsed into joyless geometry. Time for him to pull out some of his '70s records, and remember the days when he still played "free" solos (both with Crimson and in cameos with Eno, Bowie, etc.). And I'm getting awfully tired of that high, sterile "fake string section" tone he uses so much lately. It was never appealing in the first place. His guitar hardly ever "growls" anymore, and that's the sound I enjoy the most from him. The set ended with Discipline's "Thela Hun Ginjeet" and Red's title song, which I believe have been played at *every* Crimson show I've seen. Phooey. Been there, done that. And is "Red" really *that* good, to warrant this sort of saturation? I don't think so. I was hoping to hear Bowie's "Heroes," because I know the band performed it as an encore on another recent tour. But, no. Much to my surprise, Fripp came to the microphone and said a couple of sentences at the end of the performance. Unfortunately, the mike didn't pick up his words and I don't have a clue what he said. In any case, this set really depressed me. It may be time for Fripp to give up on King Crimson, and retreat into his arid solo records. Just casually sell a few thousand Soundscape records to his hardcore fans, and keep the cash coming in with all those archival live discs. I don't want to hear another King Crimson album, if it's going to be as unsatisfying as ConstruKCtion of Light. The hall wasn't even 20% full when King Crimson started, but it gradually filled during the set. This was obviously a Tool crowd (I don't think I've ever seen a concert with so many people wearing the headlining band's T-shirts!), but a goodly number of folks gave Crimson a standing ovation. Okay, whatever. About a half-hour passed between King Crimson and Tool, and the sell-out crowd eventually stuffed the lobby and seats. The lobby chatter at the Wiltern Theater is always just *deafening* between sets -- something about the acoustics, I guess. I actually kept my earplugs in, while wandering out there. Tool's set was an endurance test. I persisted, but only because I figured, well, this is a big group, this is the only time I'll ever see them and I might as well store the full experience in my memory banks. The band had sort of an unusual set-up. The drummer was on a riser to the right, facing slightly inward, and the bassist and guitarist were in front. Singer Maynard *never* sang out front, and spent the whole show singing on a slightly elevated platform, 10 feet or so behind the guitarists. There was a large video projection screen over the stage, and a smaller video screen directly behind Maynard's platform. Video was back-projected on the smaller screen, and showed exactly what was on the larger screen except the image was unavoidably reversed. Maynard sang unlit in front of the smaller screen, and as a result, appeared as little more than a dark silhouette. I didn't think this setup quite worked, frankly. The two screens seemed puzzlingly redundant, and the row of water bottles lined up on the platform were a distracting obstacle to the purity of the video image. The same effect would've worked much better if Maynard had been singing in front of the large screen in back. However, I guess this would've caused logistical problems because the larger image couldn't be back-projected, so he would be singing with the images projected *on* him. Kind of an unsolvable situation, I suppose. Maybe if the smaller screen had simply shown different images! The videos were interesting at first, but grew dull and repetitive over time. Practically every sequence had the same approach and theme: nude, head-shaven people with their identifying traits covered in silver makeup and prosthetic "parasites," sort of symbolically struggling against a dehumanizing world in various looped activities. Or something. I guess. This accounts for a good 90% of the images, I estimate. I will say this: I have never seen so much pubic hair at a rock concert. ;) In fact, there was much more crotch hair than *head* hair. But, not exactly a fresh theme. I prefer the animation from "The Wall," myself.... In any case, it's lucky Tool has their videos to distract everyone from how phenomenally tedious their music is. Most of the songs seemed like literally one chord, just disguised with irregular rhythms and riffs. This is the same complaint I have about Nine Inch Nails, incidentally, but Tool is an even worse offender. I have little to say about their music, simply because there *was* so little "music." ;) Most of the set seemed like just one long song to me, where every idea had the exact same mood and feel. Ugh. I get headachy again, just thinking about it. I really think this band would be lost without their videos and peripheral sense of "mystique." That's about all they have going for them. I suspect their lyrics aren't so bad, but it's not as if you could understand a word in *this* setting. There was one portion where Maynard started screeching "Fuck..." a lot of different things, such as "Fuck L. R*n H*bbard." That was the only part where his lyrics came into focus for me. He talked a little bit between songs, but not much. He kept telling us to remember this experience, as if it would change our lives forever. He urged us to savor the feeling we experienced tonight, and use it to "create something positive" in the next few weeks. Yes, o Messiah, we hear, we understand. I had a bit of confusion, after a hour or so. My concertmate told me there would be an intermission, so I was expecting one. As the bassist played the same ponderous three-note figure for about six or seven minutes (I am *not* kidding), the other members gradually left the stage. OK, it must be intermission time, I thought. Not quite. As the bass lick droned on, a synthetic background roar gradually started building. When the bassist finally put down his instrument (THANK YOU!), the roar continued. After a bit, I became aware that there was actually someone behind the main stage, barely visible between the various islands of equipment. At first glance, I thought he was just a roadie tuning a guitar. Nope...I slowly started to wonder, wait a minute, is that FRIPP? When a signature guitar lick came after a couple of minutes, I realized, yes, it IS Fripp. Weird. So, while the same video loop ran on the screen continuously, Fripp droned on for several minutes. He wasn't exactly "playing guitar," more like fingering one note and then twisting knobs on his adjacent equipment tower. As I said, he looked like someone tuning his guitar. Anyway, his contribution meant there was never a break in the music. Eventually Tool came back onstage, and sort of stood there frozen while the drone continued. The bassist was absolutely *motionless* for several minutes, with his head down and his hands poised on his strings. Soon, the guitarist started adding some feeble notes to the din, and then the band crashed into gear again. I must have looked away (or at the video screen) when Fripp exited, because I didn't even see him leave. Here, I was groaning because I'm thinking, gawd, this show is only *half over*? Another hour or so of this? However, it turned out that I hadn't waited through an intermission, after all -- this new portion was the *encore*. Oops. Maynard gave a brief thanks to Fripp, and I suspect most of the crowd wouldn't have realized it was him otherwise. Heck, most of them probably don't even know "Robert Fripp" is a member of King Crimson. Anyway, Tool returned with their big radio hit, which I can't name by title. Suffice to say it was one of only two tracks all night which sounded familiar to me. This segment of the show wasn't so bad, actually. I believe there were three songs in the encore, and since they were all "favorites," they were more tuneful and not so deadeningly monotonous. During the encore, my concertmate also pointed me at some frantically overwrought girl about three rows in front of me to the right, who was ferociously mouthing every word and theatrically waving her hands as if she herself was performing onstage. Hilariously dorky. I wish I had noticed her earlier in the night, because she was more entertaining than either the video *or* band. Then the music stopped, the band waved and I finally realized that I had been watching the encore, instead of "the second half." It was a quite cold ending. There was no question about the band returning again, and the house lights quickly came on. I looked forward a few rows again, trying to see what the dorkgirl looked like when fully lit. I didn't see her again, but in almost the same place, I did see a stunningly attractive blonde sitting in a circle of men, waiting for everyone else to march up the aisles. She was casually dressed and wearing little makeup, but her face clicked in my mind after a few seconds. It was...Cameron Diaz. Wow. Also in the crowd, a row or two in front of me: John Frusciante and Flea from the Chili Peppers. Flea seemed pretty mellow, and left a bit early -- I suspect he wasn't much of a fan either. In the lobby, I also noticed some soap-opera actor, but I sure couldn't tell you his name. Sort of a cross between John Stamos and Billy Baldwin, and I know I once saw him in a late-night syndicated drama called "Two." Check the IMDB site, if you must. Anyway, I have run out of creative gristle at this point. I listened to classical radio during the drive home, which I rarely do. I was definitely in the mood for something soft and pretty. And since Miss Diaz was otherwise occupied.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:31:34 -0700 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: RE: Its all happening in Terre Haute >From: "Rude Becky of Goldstrum" >Subject: Its all happening in Terre Haut > >http://www.theonion.com/onion3727/garage_band.html > >Warning-- drummer joke 1/2 way thru That article hits disturbingly close to home - I lived in and around Terre Haute for most of my life (went to college there, born 'n raised in nearby Brazil, worked in nearby Clinton for several years), and actually played in a couple bands there off and on. None of the bands they name actually exist, as far as I know, and they've missed out on a major bit of area muso folklore by skipping the incredible drum-kit swallowing hole in the floor of the Fourth Quarter, . . . da9ve, the drummer who drools equally out of each side of his mouth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:05:34 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: King Crimsooooooooooon, dude! At 03:40 PM 8/14/01 -0700, Eb wrote: Eb sayed: >There was an instrumental introduced as a new track >from a future album (!), but I didn't understand the title. ("Level" >something?) "Nouveau Metal," supposedly. >After a >bit, I became aware that there was actually someone behind the main stage, >barely visible between the various islands of equipment. At first glance, I >thought he was just a roadie tuning a guitar. Nope...I slowly started to >wonder, wait a minute, is that FRIPP? When a signature guitar lick came >after a couple of minutes, I realized, yes, it IS Fripp. Weird. So, while >the same video loop ran on the screen continuously, Fripp droned on for >several minutes. He wasn't exactly "playing guitar," more like fingering >one note and then twisting knobs on his adjacent equipment tower. As I >said, he looked like someone tuning his guitar. I've seen other people, waitresses in clubs for example, mistake his Soundscape performances for just that. Fripp tweaks his gear a lot during these, building these pieces from looped segments of the few bits he does play. Not the most exciting thing to watch, admittedly. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:23:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Feg Caps Question I downloaded the fonts for the mac and the PC. How come the mac ones do not have numbers in them? They are available (for those of you who are new) at: http://www.alternatech.net/jh3/robyn/ Just curious if anyone did numbers.... herbie np-> Gling Glo "Gling Glo" Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 23:31:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: for those still interested in this marginal talent ;) Eb wrote: > >POLITICALLY INCORRECT WITH BILL MAHER, ABC > >Mo 8/13: Robert Conrad, ***Rufus Wainwright***, Lisa Ann Walter, > >Traditional Value Coalition's Rev. Lou Sheldon > > Some other Feg already announced this, a couple of days ago. and without being rude about Rufus even though i've found pretty much everything i've heard by him underwhelming! > Actually, it should be pretty funny seeing Wainwright horrify that > pinheaded prig Lou Sheldon. you are too kind to Sheldon; he'd more of a wretched demon spawn. Rufus played it pretty smart and let Maher handle the most direct baiting of Sheldon, especially when Sheldon refused to directly answer why he thought homosexuality was immoral. yep, Christian supremacists aren't even honest enough to (mis-)quote bible verses anymore in their illogical quests. when all Sheldon kept saying was that homosexuality could cause death, Rufus replied that so could heterosexuality (for the same reasons of course). ===== "Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul." -- Mark Twain "The divinity of Jesus has been made a convenient cover for every absurdity." -- John Adams "The jury is the last line of defense against corporate misconduct." -- Craig McDonald, Texans for Public Justice Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:06:06 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: for those still interested in this margarine Jeff: >Rufus played it pretty smart and let Maher handle the most direct >baiting of Sheldon, especially when Sheldon refused to directly answer >why he thought homosexuality was immoral. yep, Christian supremacists >aren't even honest enough to (mis-)quote bible verses anymore in their >illogical quests. when all Sheldon kept saying was that homosexuality >could cause death, Rufus replied that so could heterosexuality (for the >same reasons of course). I got home from Tool/Crimson with literally minutes to spare before "PI" started. It wasn't exactly must-see TV, but I was glad that I saw it. I thought Rufus' best moment was when he countered the "Homosexuality is against nature" argument with "Mowing your LAWN is against nature!" Ha. He was probably quoting that line from someone else, but it was still a good one. That "Homosexuality causes death" point was remarkably stupid, even for a right-wing Christian. As if Sheldon's anti-gay sentiments are grounded only in pragmatic concern for our species' survival, and not Biblical morals? As if Sheldon didn't have any complaints about homosexuality, prior to the AIDS outbreak? Suuuure. (On the whole, I don't much enjoy that show. I'm not a Maher fan, and it seems you *have* to be in order to tolerate a nightly dose of his smugness.) Eb, who would know better than to ask Rufus if he has ever seen Tool ;) PS What's with Eddie Tews, anyway? His posting has dropped to nil...Woj had a message bounce from his address...he didn't screech about my anti-Tool comments.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 08:22:18 -0500 From: "Sweet & Tender Hooligan" Subject: Waits I don't know if scheduling is regional or national or what, but did anyone else catch Tom Waits on Austin City Limits last night? I /just/ started listening to Waits about a month ago when my cousin loaned me "Mule Variations". It was off-putting at first, but I've grown to really, really love the album (excepting the intolerable, unlistenable "Filipino Box Spring Hog"). Anyway, I was sparring with insomnia last night when I caugh the last 20 minutes of ACL. It was, uh, interesting to see Waits perform. I thought Robyn Hitchcock was weird. - - s&th cirhsein@yahoo.com "I'll tear at you searching for weak seams..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:17:07 +0000 From: "Rude Becky of Goldstrum" Subject: Inside the lids Ross: >Never having >seen a Stone up close, I now wonder if all of them are short ... Yes, I beleive so. I think Jaggers the tallest but thats a comparative term here. Cant believe Lee is still going strong. That must have been gratifying. Saw Georgie Fame once once with Van Morrison , when Van basically lost it quite spectacularly on stage and the huge crowd was too into stadium rock to notice. A horrific enough event to make me forget everything else bout the concert. >I remember asking my mom "what are all >those dots I see in the air?" and her nervously >saying "uh, that's dust." I have yet to see >something that clearly addresses the *grainy* >nature of vision as I see it, most notably on >a bright, featureless surface, but I can clearly >see over everything else too. The grain >appears to be in constant motion, but is never >so coarse as to distort or obscure anything I'm >looking at. Is this normal cause I have always had it too? I know what dust grains in sun light look like but this is something native to the eye itself. I love closing my eyes in bright light and watching the patterns and colors inside the lids. >I *have* gotten an >explanation for the small, often colored, >bright specks of light I see occasionally. An >astronomy prof. told me those are "phosphenes," >effects of something, perhaps cosmic rays, >killing nerve cells in the retina. I thought phosphenes were greenish and what I see are usually bright white or bluish. (Maybe I just have more dead nerve cells than you;-) - ---- Eleanor--Id love to do a museum with you:-) - ---- Pope/Bayard Theres a tree for the Largo show? How did I miss this? Please, please me too? - --- Kay n.p. Ready to ask / why, Why, WHY ??? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:51:32 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: BWRK On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, ross taylor wrote: > I somehow have to report I went to see Bill Wyman's Rhythm Kings > Albert Lee was in the band & it's amazing how sweet he looks. He has > a curly mess of gray Harpo-like hair and looks like your darling > Grandmother. Even when he's playing eight zillion notes per > nanosecond. Georgie Fame was also a discovery, a pre-Beatles British > hipster. I plan to dig up some of his old stuff. Totally off topic > for this list, but things are sloe. I saw BWRK last year (including Brooker) and again this year (with the excellent Mike Sanchez depping for Brooker). Impressive 11 / 12 piece group with a basic Ray Charles feel. Wyman said that he was never going to appear on stage again unless Fame was singing in the band. Fame's isn't exactly pre-Beatles - his UK hits were in the mid to late 60s, including 'Get away', 'Yeh Yeh' and 'Ballad of Bonnie and Clyde', all performed in his throwaway Mose Allison-meets-Jimmy Smith style. He did an LP (sic) of Hoagy Carmichael songs which includes some good performances, and given half a chance he will reminisce about when he met Carmichael. Was Martin Taylor playing the other guitar when you saw them? He is an terrific player from a jazz background, and I have seen him loads of times, either solo or with the late great Stephane Grappelly. - - Mike Godwin n.p. Best of John Renbourn PS Fax'n'info dept: Mitch Mitchell, the well-known drummer, played in Georgie Fame's Blue Flames before he got the Hendrix job. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:17:55 -0500 From: "Sweet & Tender Hooligan" Subject: Lee Harvey Oswald - LIVE! The picture Oliver Stone doesn't want you to see! http://home.earthlink.net/~dare2b/oswald.htm - - s&th cirhsein@yahoo.com "You say it's love that you need But it's war that you've got... That you want to live your life and 'to have' Not 'to have not' Better wise up and face my lot She loves me not" - pwei ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 12:55:17 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Lee Harvey Oswald - LIVE! On Wed, Aug 15, 2001, Sweet & Tender Hooligan wrote: > The picture Oliver Stone doesn't want you to see! > > http://home.earthlink.net/~dare2b/oswald.htm Cool. I like the DK on the back wall. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:12:34 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: Re: Lee Harvey Oswald - LIVE! >> http://home.earthlink.net/~dare2b/oswald.htm > >Cool. I like the DK on the back wall. didn't somebody post a link to that photo a couple weeks ago? i seem to remember someone saying that one of the people in the background was a chris gross look-a-like. woj "tori tickets!" the wojster ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:46:27 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: Re: BWRK Mike Godwin -- Impressive 11 / 12 piece >group with a basic Ray Charles feel. Wyman said that he was never going to >appear on stage again unless Fame was singing in the band. Fame's isn't >exactly pre-Beatles - his UK hits were in the mid to late 60s, including >'Get away', 'Yeh Yeh' and 'Ballad of Bonnie and Clyde', all performed in >his throwaway Mose Allison-meets-Jimmy Smith style. He did an LP (sic) of >Hoagy Carmichael songs which includes some good performances, and given >half a chance he will reminisce about when he met Carmichael. And he did that at the show, when he came out for the 1st part of the encore w/ just Martin Taylor. He told about Hoagy, then sang Georgia on My Mind while smoking a cig. Much joking about Virginia being Wyman's favorite state because of tobacco (he puffed thru the show). I have to say, having just retired from a blues band, that in the last few years even *blues clubs* no longer have much smoking. I don't smoke, & I would come home not smelling bad. Used to be, after shower & a change, my guitar, even the friggin metal strings would smell like ciggs. My review is here: http://www.procolharum.com/99/rk_2001_birchmere_050801.htm >Was Martin Taylor playing the other guitar when you saw them? Yes, a bit dominated by Lee. Great when I could hear him. Ross Taylor * * * * * * Still thinkin' about spoilers ... Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:43:52 -0500 From: JH3 Subject: Re: Feg Caps Question From: "Mike Swedene" : > I downloaded the fonts for the mac and the PC. How > come the mac ones do not have numbers in them? They > are available (for those of you who are new) at: > http://www.alternatech.net/jh3/robyn/ Wow, our site was actually WORKING? Amazing! Anyway, the preferred URL is now http://www.jh3.com/robyn/ ; there's a good chance the Alternatech version will be gone by the end of this month. > Just curious if anyone did numbers.... I did indeed do numbers! The problem is I don't have a Macintosh, so I can't check these things. I had a friend named Brenda (I only mention the name because this is the feg list) convert the fonts using aprogram called FontMonger, which isn't the best program in the world for doing that sort of thing. Anyway, this is the first I've heard that the numbers aren't in there. Recently I've obtained Fontographer 4.0, but now I need someone with the Mac version who's willing to do the conversion and e-mail me the results, which should take about 2 minutes. I've asked before on both this list and the XTC list, but no takers... Maybe I should subscribe to the Fontographer list instead... John H. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 14:57:00 -0400 From: jill sunderlin Subject: Re: Feg Caps Question I've got the Mac version of Fontographer down at the studio. I don't remember you asking before ;) jill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:35:08 -0400 From: jill sunderlin Subject: sb tree #2 is on the move and coming to your mailbox soon yikes! two posts from me in one day, and all at once -- something must definitely be afoot. And, here it is: Now's the time to add yourself to the tree if you wish to participate in tree #2 -- the Soft Boys Largo and Seattle shows. The Seattle show was recorded from the soundboard. Thanks for contributing the recordings goes to Thomas Narten and his friend Bob for the Seattle show, and Dan Poppe and Julie Burton for Largo. If you were on tree #1, your name should be on the list below -- you'll be automatically included so you don't need to email me. If you're not on the list -- email me at: jill@lightfallsdesign.com and I'll put you on. Let me know if you are capable of copying cd's, and are willing to be a branch. If you see your name on this list, and you DON'T want to be included in this tree, let me know. Current Tree list: jmill@ans.net Jason Miller pulp_101@yahoo.com Mike Swedene j_manniello@hotmail.com james manniello samadams@earthlink.net Sam Adams cakrm@home.com Alfred Masciocchi sandi_west@trdigital.com Sandi West genebergmn@earthlink.net Gary Eneberg Ferris Thomas Ferris_Thomas@mcgraw-hill.com ltucker@town.ci.chapel-hill.nc.us Larry Tucker jeff.pearce@att.net Jeff Pearce mondacello@home.com Mark Kirk linnig@mindspring.com Terry Linnig loehr@javanet.com Eric Loehr twofangs@sympatico.ca Randi vagueyear@hotmail.com Seth Frisby dr.k56@erols.com Bob Kovar mbrage@popmail.ucsd.edu Michael Brage F90SXK1@wpo.cso.niu.edu Sumiko Keay SIMON50@aol.com John Simon spine@whale-mail.com Jim Francis dfurst@wamu.org David Furst jlbrand@bu.edu Jill Brand cynthiap@microsoft.com Cynthia Peterson mel@scw.org Melissa Higuchi danpoppe@pacbell.net Dan Poppe woj@smoe.org woj cjmwarner@yahoo.com Chris Warner johnj@apk.net John Jenks mborg58@mindspring.com Martin Borg PooleR@dsmo.com Ed Poole ringostr@u.washington.edu Jason Wilson Brown maximlang@hotmail.com Max Lang hbrandt@milehigh.net hal brandt david.skoglund@att.net David Skoglund Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com Michael Bachman junkmail@greentortoise.com theyarenotlong@hotmail.com Kay Robcow@aol.com Roberta happy treeing! jill ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #305 ********************************