From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #298 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, August 7 2001 Volume 10 : Number 298 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Totems of feg [the other white meat ] Back from the UK [Eleanore Adams ] Re: Is that The Quail on the right? [Tom Clark ] Almost Christian ["Rude Becky of Goldstrum" ] Almost Christian [Eb ] deja poo and dreams come true [Ken Ostrander ] For Your Pleasure [Tom Clark ] Re: For Your Pleasure [Miles Goosens ] Re: For Your Pleasure [Tom Clark ] Re: For Your Pleasure [Eb ] Send in the Clones! [bayard ] Re: Totems of feg [steve ] Re: Robyn in Edinburgh 4th August ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Another funny link [Glen Uber ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 12:14:41 -0400 From: the other white meat Subject: Re: Totems of feg when we last left our heroes, Rude Becky of Goldstrum exclaimed: >Any possible connection with the novel "Till We Have Faces"? i would think so, but i don't know for sure. >Anyway--Im suprised seeing it show up in the context of a band. Lewis isnt >exactly the kind of fellow its groovy to reference, no Burrows, Dick nor >Lautremont he. You loose cool points for liking him. Which makes me like >this band on principle:-) they have quite the reading list at , which further reinforces the likelihood that lewis' novel was the inspiration for the album's name. >What does their stuff sound like? folk-pop-rock. their earlier stuff is more acoustic, i suppose, though they have oscillated back and forth between acoustic/electric and raw/produced over their career. they have several mp3s on their site which span their career if you want to give 'em a listen: . >I didnt know there was >"'almost-Christian-pop'" that was listenable(love the term >almost-Christian;-). I think I could be in love here. "almost-christian" in that they are christian but that's not the focus of their music -- at least overtly. kind of in the same way that the innocence mission are almost-christian (though they are more obviously religious than over the rhine). woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 10:38:11 -0700 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Back from the UK Hi fegs! I am back from my studies at Oxford. I owe the Oxford fegs an apology for not calling and hooking up - I was completely overwhelmed by the school and studys, and when I did have a moment to myself, our british guide of student activities had us playing soccer games and wasted. I am covered from head to toe in black and blue marks. (I used to play soccer as a kid big time, so I was way into it). I'll be posting a travel loge in a week or so at my website, and i'll forward it to you guys. Robyn rules! eleanore ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 13:08:55 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Is that The Quail on the right? on 8/4/01 10:02 AM, The Great Quail at quail@libyrinth.com wrote: > --Quail, of Tom Clark Innovations Now you're talkin'!! Just remember who signs yer paychecks, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 20:45:49 +0000 From: "Rude Becky of Goldstrum" Subject: Almost Christian Nuppy: >the dream I had where I found a lost Robyn Hitchcock and the >Egyptians >album while browsing through Media Play. It's too hard to >bring albums >like that back from la la land! Too bad. I once had a dream that Robyn was performing at Maxwell's. When I woke up I still remembered a good bit of the song--wrote down the lyrics and let myself fill in the rest. I mean hell, I wrote the whole thing anyway;-). BTW--wouldnt a Sft Bys/Gyptns lineup be fine! James: >here we have rabbits, hedgehogs and the occasional opossum. >James (trying to pictre a garden dotted with 'deer and the occasional > >racoon' we really should start a feg exchange program. The deer wander into yards to eat your flowers cause the nearby park is overpopulated and the racoons, masked banditos that they are, knock over your garbage cans, tear open the bags and strew your garbage about. Id prefer a hedgehog in my corn row anyday(Oy). Stewart: If youre doing a tree for the show, may I be involved? I cant do tape to tape, but I can do CDR to CDR. The proprietor of the Worst ... List ... Ever wrote: >"almost-christian" in that they are christian but that's not the >focus of >their music -- at least overtly. kind of in the same way that the >innocence mission are almost-christian (though they are more >obviously religious thanover the rhine). Isnt that the way its supposed to be? Instead of being used as a marketing tool? I didnt know bands like this existed but I always wanted them to. I also really like the term almost Christian since, well , I dont know if any of you may have noticed, but while "a" christian, Im not exactly "Christ-like". Believe it or not, Ive been known to be petty, smarmy, impatient, insensitive, boring, easily angered, self-serving and even sometimes, well,---downright not humble. And certianly no walking embodiment of Peace, Love and Understanding. Same goes for most of the people I know, Christian or not. So I like the term almost Christian. Its honest. Kay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:57:09 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Almost Christian I saw that...pretty good film, except that I found it implausible that a mother would let her 15-year-old son tour around the country with a circus-tent revivalist and his handlers. Eb np: Mono/Formica Blues + Violet Indiana/Roulette ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 17:21:19 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: deja poo and dreams come true >When we code new events in our brain, we may code it separately as a >physical event and a chronological event - that is, we may encode what >happens in one way, and when in another. The latter coding may not always >register properly. While something is happening to us, it may be >instantaneously encoded with the wrong chronological information, and >instantly recalled as something that has happened to us at some time in the >past. This also explains why in deja vu cases we cannot say exactly what >will happen next other than some ominous feeling that 'something' happens. >We can't rtecall it because it hasn't yet occurred. jeez! you make it sound like a computer error. there is no spoon. i think that there's more to it than that. even scully would agree that there's something to extrasensory perception or whatever you want to call these phenomenon. ask cleo, she'll tell you that you only see what you want to see (i'm guessing); but the subconscious abilities of the brain are still largely unknown. i believe the ideas of past lives, precognition, and communion with the dead are all tied into this. of course, there's lots of lore and unscientific research; but most people would agree that there's more to it than improperly coded memories. this reminds me of the idea that our personalities are just random chemical impulses in the brain. it makes sense in theory; but something seems to be missing. >the dream I had where I found a lost Robyn Hitchcock and the >Egyptians >album while browsing through Media Play. It's too hard to >bring albums >like that back from la la land! Too bad yes! sometimes i'll dream some incredible stuff, only to loose it in my rushed morning routine. we all need more time to languish in bed to better recall our subconscious revelations. >Later, I was told this was the only Clash-era tune performed, when i saw joe play with the mescaleros a couple of years ago, they performed *mostly* clash material. it was unbelievable. since i never got to see the clash, it was a dream come true. sorry to hear that they've given up on that. >while "a" christian, Im not exactly >"Christ-like". Believe it or not, Ive been known to be petty, smarmy, >impatient, insensitive, boring, easily angered, self-serving and even >sometimes, well,---downright not humble. there's the rub! everyone is human and so was jesus. i wonder what he dreamed about. we all have these traits and have to fight them every day. of course, this kind of restraint is the case with *most* religions. buddhists, conservatives, astrologers, even the greens... ken "is such a normal guy" the kenster np films for radio over the rhine thanks for clueing me into this band! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 14:25:18 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: For Your Pleasure Hey All, I took the wife and kid up to see Roxy Music last night at the Chronicle Pavilion In The Middle of Nowhere Outdoor Music Center. I can't say I was super hyped about going, since I'm finding it harder to get my shit together enough to go to shows these days, but it really was a great time. The set was, as you'd expect, classy and a little decadent: Huge, sheer curtains pulled aside; mirror balls; fog. The screen behind the band showed close-ups of the performance, but in a solarized black & white. Nice Touch. Looking around, I was amazed at the demographic of the crowd. I usually feel like the geezer square at shows these days, especially since I have no visible "body modification" of any sort - well, not voluntary anyway. But I swear the average age at this event was like 43. There was a couple sitting behind us who must have been pushing 70! Egads! Nonetheless, it was remarkably well attended and the crowd was very excited throughout. There was even the occasional smell of reefer wafting through the air. That always has a reassuring effect on me. We were sitting front row, stage right. In front of us was a two-high by six-wide stack of speakers devoted solely to the kick drum. I actually contemplated moving my seat a few times as the sound pressure was strong enough to mess my coiff. The last time this happened was at Lollapalooza '92 when I had to leave because the combination of a half a tab of acid and Ministry had me convinced me chest was about to explode. Anyway, also in front of us was Andy Mackay. Great horn player, boring performer. In the center of the stage, Bryan Ferry had it going on BIG TIME. Not only did he look great, changing from leather suit to white jacket to silver lame (that's 'lamay') suit, but he always looked like each word he was singing was the most important one in the song. The women around us were literally swooning all night. I was happy to see that Manzanera can still tear it up. On some of the band's earlier numbers he was just a madman - ripping all sorts of unique sounds out of his guitar. Also a nice surprise was the addition of journeyman Chris Spedding to the band. He and Manzanera really played off each other well. At the rear right of the stage were a couple of young ladies taking on violin, percussion, and analog synth. They were fun to watch in that they were always jumping around and really getting into the performance. Okay, the music. They sounded fantastic - polished yet loose. While I'm not overly familiar with the entire catalog, here are some of the songs I remember them doing: "Both Ends Burning" "While My Heart Is Still Beating" "In Every Dream Home A Heartache" "My Only Love" "Mother Of Pearl" "Dance Away" The finale was great as they went from "Avalon" into "Jealous Guy" into "Re-Make/Re-Model" (IIRC) Then for the encore it was "Love Is The Drug" and "Do The Strand" followed by some really slow song I didn't recognize. All in all it was a great show. I like to think it's "cooler" that I saw them in 1983 at Radio City Music Hall, but I was really unfamiliar with them at that time, and more than a little bit on the way to full blown alcoholism. There's definitely something to be said for experience of age and moderation of "spirit". Dancing, Dancing, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 16:54:37 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: For Your Pleasure Just a couple of quick emendations to Tom's Roxy Music post. I saw this tour in Atlanta on July 26th, and it was equally wonderful, if "Mother of Pearl"-less, darn it... >I was happy to see that Manzanera can still tear it up. On some of the >band's earlier numbers he was just a madman - ripping all sorts of unique >sounds out of his guitar. His solo at the end of "Ladytron" on this tour is the best live guitar solo I've ever heard. Period. >At the rear right of the stage were a couple of young ladies taking on >violin, percussion, and analog synth. They were fun to watch in that they >were always jumping around and really getting into the performance. Those of you who saw Ferry's splendid '99-'00 tour, or the Ferry live in Paris DVD that's out now, would recognize the rest of the Roxy Music lineup, aside from Spedding, as the core of Ferry's '99-'00 touring band: Julia Thornton on percussion (the harp player from the previous tour!), Lucy Wilkins on keyboards and violin, Zev Katz on bass, and pianist/arranger Colin Good on keyboards. Well, the Paris show was the *one* night that Lucy wasn't part of the show, but everyone else is on the DVD. Anyway, yeah, the band cooks, and Lucy's violin solo on "Out of the Blue" is one of the set's high points. >Okay, the music. They sounded fantastic - polished yet loose. While I'm >not overly familiar with the entire catalog, here are some of the songs I >remember them doing: Tour setlists can be found at http://www.vivaroxymusic.com, including last night's show. >Then for the encore it was "Love Is The Drug" and "Do The Strand" followed >by some really slow song I didn't recognize. I had to chuckle at this, given your choice of subject line! Thanks for the great review, Tom! I'm forwarding it over to the Avalon list... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 15:09:20 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: For Your Pleasure on 8/6/01 2:54 PM, Miles Goosens at outdoorminer@mindspring.com wrote: >> Then for the encore it was "Love Is The Drug" and "Do The Strand" followed >> by some really slow song I didn't recognize. > > I had to chuckle at this, given your choice of subject line! Thanks for > the great review, Tom! I'm forwarding it over to the Avalon list... Aha. Granted we were viewing the encore from afar as we didn't want to get trampled by the zealots when security opened the floodgates. That encouraged us to wander out early on in the song since the old clock on the wall said they were going to shut the place down any minute anyway. Also, I forgot to write what I thought would've been "the funny part" of my post: I was surprised that they didn't play that Robyn Hitchcock song, "More Than This". Me so funny, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 15:18:59 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: For Your Pleasure >I took the wife and kid up to see Roxy Music last night at the Chronicle >Pavilion In The Middle of Nowhere Outdoor Music Center. Roxy Music performs here tonight and tomorrow night, and barring a last-minute miracle, I'm not going. :( I'm doubly bummed, now that I hear Manzanera can still "tear it up"...I was dreading the songs getting Ferry's contemporary ambient-mush treatment. Guess my fears were unfounded. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 19:09:06 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: Send in the Clones! http://www.starwars.com/episode-ii/news/2001/08/news20010806.html yet another goofy title! =b ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 22:25:09 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Totems of feg Speaking of Totems, an artistic Feg needs to come up with something to top this - http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~mwotton/madcdstand.jpg Obviously, there are scores of Robyn icons to use, and he's already put some of them to paper. Think we could talk Ethan Allen into a Robyn Hitchcock collection? - - Steve __________ Last week, as Megawati Sukarnoputri was installed as the new leader of Indonesia, the Bush administration attempted to recall a State Department book detailing the United States' role in the deaths of thousands of Indonesians in the 1960s in order to topple Sukarno, Megawati's father. - The Spleen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:19:35 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Robyn in Edinburgh 4th August Songs: Surgery A Man's Gotta Know His Limitations, Briggs Wax Doll The Veins Of The Queen Viva! Sea-Tac Glass Hotel Queen Elvis I Am Not Me Raymond Chandler Evening Sally Was A Legend Only The Stones Remain Nightfall Don't Talk To Me About Gene Hackman The Ghost In You Think For Yourself A fine show. Ticket scans in the usual place: http://homepages.enterprise.net/scruss/fegtickets.html#stewart - -- Stewart C. Russell Senior Analyst Programmer stewart@ref.collins.co.uk Collins Dictionaries use Disclaimer; my $opinion; Bishopbriggs, Scotland ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 08:07:54 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: fun link of the day! http://www.oddcast.com/vhost/bush/host.php VERY accurate and well done. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 10:54:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Another funny link Take a moment to check out this picture. I promise you won't be disappointed. It is hilarious! What I want to know is what kind of wildlife they have nesting in there! Trixter, Poison, and Warrant fans were never supposed to mate! I suppose Darwin was correct--Nature finds a way! The Horror... http://www.sendthisnow.com/html/childabuse.html ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #298 ********************************