From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V10 #297 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, August 6 2001 Volume 10 : Number 297 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RHE reunion show last night ["Ultimate Goal" ] Re: Robyn in Edinburgh 4th August [HAL ] RE: Over the Rhine ["da9ve stovall" ] Re: slugs [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Over the Rhine [the other white meat ] Re: I've always been a rolling stone ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Totems of feg ["Rude Becky of Goldstrum" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 11:07:35 -0400 From: "Ultimate Goal" Subject: RHE reunion show last night I just woke up from a dream last night about a Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians reunion show in Chicago. Of course, got to the show early as planned, but I could hear them already playing Pink Floyd's Chapter 24 when I was walking up to the door trying to conceal my minidisc recorder and microphone. The place inside was laid out much like Ferndale's Magic Bag (In real life I just saw Glenn Tilbrook play there last Sunday, so I'm sure this is where this image comes). I scramble with my girlfriend to the front and start fiddling with my recording gear. On stage is RH, Morris (standing like the Respect tour), Andy!, Kim, Matthew (playing keyboards), and a couple girls doing percussion and back up vocals. I think they were playing A Globe of Frogs or maybe it was Do The Chisel. Always in these situations, I'm drunk or somehow impared. I have serious difficulties getting the recording gear to function! What anxiety! Eb once said he feels sorry for anyone who chooses to record a show because it is such a personal disctraction and you have to hold back clapping or something like that, and I know what he means! This was the most frustrating part of the show. Trying to record the show and things kept happening. Batteries run out. Need new disc. Microphone not turned on... Luckly Eddie tews was there getting a perfect recording. From what I remember this was a fine show! It wasn't nearly as frustrating as the dream I had where I found a lost Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians album while browsing through Media Play. It's too hard to bring albums like that back from la la land! Too bad. Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 10:30:06 -0600 From: HAL Subject: Re: Robyn in Edinburgh 4th August Thanks for the show review Martin! you wrote: > a song featuring a recurring line about a > glass hotel which may or may not be called "Glass Hotel" which > was absolutely stunning. Does anybody out there know this song? The beautiful "Glass Hotel" is on the brilliant RH solo disc "EYE". /hal now waking up to: the neighbor's fucking buzzsaw ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 09:57:36 -0700 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: RE: Over the Rhine >> I'll second a vote for Over the Rhine as a band to see. >> first self-released album _'Til We Have Faces_ - which I >> still rank as their best. > >Wow. Better than "Eve", even? Yikes! I think so, but that opinion may be colored by the fact that the TWHF material was what introduced me to the band - I'd never heard of them before seeing them live - and it made a very string first impression. I think it's a little more accessible an album (not always a good thing inmy book, but in this case, it seems to work). It also rocks out a little more. On the whole, it's just more memorable to me, though your mileage may vary, . . . >> plus a solo piano album by Linford Detweiler, the title >> of which has escaped me. >"I Don't Think There's No Need To Bring Nothin'" is the title. Dat's the one. Nice quiet album. > Also, Linford's second piano album is due this month, >along with his first book of essays, poems and whatnot. Coolness. >> is notable to long-time fans, as OtR have sometimes been nudged >> toward the pigeonhole of 'almost-Christian-pop' music > >An image they've repeatedly bucked, it may be added. This is true. >> I think Linford is of Quaker extraction, which is >I've heard him say he's of Amish descent. Ah - you're right. I guess my brane just made up the Quaker thing. I should know better, living a scant few miles from a good number of Amish furniture stores and the like in central Indiana. Still, the incongruity stands. >> They're a class act all around, able to sustain a mood and render >> audiences utterly rapt and silent. > >Yep - that's a good way to put it. When I saw them in Chicago, after a >particularly stunning performance of "Poughkeepsie", the audience sat there >in silence. Karin opened her eyes, looked around and sheepishly said >something like, "It's okay to clap". :) >From: Eb >Well, to me, they're just another typical cult band from the Ectoghetto. I >heard one of their IRS albums awhile back...seemed >harmlessly pleasant enough. Blah. ;) Their worst IRS efforts didn't grab me at all either, on CD; hearing them live is, if not revelatory, at least a much better scene (though I say that about nearly every band in existence). If you find a cheap copy, give _Til We Have Faces_ a listen - - it's worth it. da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:07:07 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: slugs >James: >>salt. sprinkle salt all arnd the plants. Dries the slugs up. Even >better, >>try to encourage hedgehogs - they loove slugs! > >Salt? Dosnt that hurt the soil? well, you could put some bits of cut up groundsheet on the soil and cover that with salt... And salt's less harmful that most of the commercial slugbaits and the like. >Would love a hedgehog(memories of Beatrice Potter illustrations) but dont >think they're common to Philly. >We have rabbits, squirrels, groundhogs, deer and the occasional racoon. here we have rabbits, hedgehogs and the occasional opossum. James (trying to pictre a garden dotted with 'deer and the occasional racoon') James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- You talk to me as if from a distance -.-=-.- And I reply with impressions chosen from another time =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 21:32:11 -0400 From: the other white meat Subject: Re: Over the Rhine the first i heard by over the rhine was their second album _patience_. i picked up a store promo for a couple dollars since the jewel book looked interesting. first saw them at the old knitting factory when they were touring for the follow-up _eve_ (1993?), but remember the show only vaguely. the only image i can recall is linford detweiler running his hand up and down the frets on "happy with myself?". despite seeing them several times since then, they've never really made an impression live until their last tour -- and not because my car broke down in soho after the show. the new one, _films for radio_, is their most accessible record and the tour for it was in the same vein: polished and engaging. i didn't care for either the record or the show as much as their earlier works, but it was one of those well-staged shows, ala sarah mclachlan's _fumbling towards ecstacy_ tour, that i had to appreciate despite misgivings. plus, as paul mentioned, some of the songs on the new record are really good. anyways, i still pick up their new records and go out of my way to see them when they play around here (in fact, i'll probably go see them next week when they bring their acoustic trio tour to new york), but i'm not a huge fan. karin berquist does have an excellent voice though. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 08:58:28 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: I've always been a rolling stone Michael Wolfe wrote: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_1466000/1466332.stm > > Check out the caption on the side of the streamliner, 7th picture > down, near the end of the story. All this made the national news (The world HPV championships, not the fact that someone used a Robyn Hitchcock quote on their bike). > Hot damn! Another link between HPVer's and Robyn Hitchcock fans, > other than myself and (until recently, sniff) Stewart Russell. Hey, Brompton folders and Pashley heavy-duty delivery bikes are still HPVs, if somewhat sedate ones. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 09:10:33 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: robynhitchcock.com update HAL wrote: > > I sure wish we had a way to tree and distribute this stuff as it > happens. There were enough people recording the Edinburgh shows to make for some good distribution. I'll do my best to convert my minidisc recordings to something usable. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 13:24:45 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Robyn in Edinburgh 4th August martin.fleming@ukonline.co.uk wrote: > > So, a performance > which was a joy to behold and this on a day when a depressingly > large number of people ... > were across in Glasgow going ape for the performing chimp > that is Robbie Williams. Just isn't right. Yes, it was a fine show. And yes, R Williams is an annoying little git, but at least shit attracts flies, eh? I can sort out a tracklist for all three shows when I get my minidiscs in a usable state. Apart from the last song of last night (we had to scoot out to catch the last train) I got 'em all. The ISB song was "Nightfall", which Robyn has played before, but not, it seems, very recently. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 14:17:46 +0100 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: robynhitchcock.com update the other white meat wrote: > > did some digging and it appears that kershaw's program will be a special > show taped at the festival on 22nd and broadcast on the 24th. free tickets > are available for the taping by calling the radio 3 info line at 08700 100 > 300. what a runaround it has been trying to get tickets for this! Phoned 08700 100 300 this morning. They denied all knowledge of it, and said to phone the Festival Fringe office. Both the Fringe website and the Fringe office say to phone the venue (Dance Base, Grassmarket). Phone the number given for Dance Base, and you get a BT recorded message that "This number has been changed to ...". Phone the changed number (why can't they redirect?) and you get ... the Fringe Office! Plead with them for a bit, and they redirect you to Dance Base ... which turns out to be someone's voice mail, who may be on holiday. Phone the Radio 3 information line again, they haven't heard of it, but have taken my details and will phone me back. Most likely reason, they say, is that the venue isn't arranged yet. So, never believe an information website, and beware of the leopard. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 15:50:58 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: The Shrike On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Andrew D. Simchik wrote: > New Luke Haines solo album. [snip] > He also has a soundtrack out ("Christie Malry's Own Double-Entry"). > Like any soundtrack, that one's got its ups and downs. I have it > mostly for quasi-completism. I'm intrigued - has someone really filmed B S Johnson's eccentric novel about a man who tots up all his life debits and credits every day? The last entry reads something like: "Just caught bus on way to work +#0.02; failure of world to convert to socialism -#9,000,073,849" (You can understand why BSJ committed suicide if he really thought like this). At least it isn't as unfilmable as the one where the chapters came separately and you were allowed to shuffle them and read them in any order. What was that one called? - - Mike Godwin PS Have people been following the re-runs of the TV H2G2? I was appalled to realise that they first came out twenty years ago. Life? Don't talk to me about life... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 15:53:55 +0000 From: "Rude Becky of Goldstrum" Subject: Totems of feg Da9ve on OTR: >This was around the time of their first self-released >album _'Til We Have Faces_ - which I still rank as their best. Any possible connection with the novel "Till We Have Faces"? Its one of the least read of CS Lewis's works(probobly cause its not fundie fodder, its setting is pagan, its ending powerful, truethfull and enigmatic)but I think one of the best things he ever wrote. Its got his fullest female charcter -- it really spoke to me as a young, gawky, why is my nose so big and my tits so small early adolescent. Anyway--Im suprised seeing it show up in the context of a band. Lewis isnt exactly the kind of fellow its groovy to reference, no Burrows, Dick nor Lautremont he. You loose cool points for liking him. Which makes me like this band on principle:-) What does their stuff sound like? I didnt know there was "'almost-Christian-pop'" that was listenable(love the term almost-Christian;-). I think I could be in love here. More Da9ve: >I think Linford is of Quaker extraction, which is something >I just can't recall seeing in the music biz very often) Errrr--think its right in front of your face actually. In Raymond Hitchcock's book about fighting cancer he talks about how his wife is from an historical Friends family. Since his wife is Robyn's mom that means... . Which, of course dosnt necissarily mean Robyn was raised Quaker, but it must have been abit in the air. Living in Philly about half my friends are either practising or renegade Friends. The whole concept of the Inner Light is, well, cool. Quail !!!!!!! Major kudos! Congrats and break out the champagne! !!!!!!! STH on OTR: >An image they've repeatedly bucked, it may be added. It's funny, >because >as much as some people /want/ them to be a Christian band, >they simply >aren't.They wouldn't make it in that industry anyway. >Their music is far >too edgy(replete with -gasp!- swearing and sexual >overtones!) for the >Christian music world. Now I know for sure Im in love. Im itching for work to be done so I can go give a listen to this stuff. More STH: >I've heard him say he's of Amish descent. Is that the same thing as a >Quaker? Don't the Amish make those quilts and whatnot? Very very different. Amish is a break-away German anabaptist sect which lives as seperate from "the world." After being confirmed as an adolescent one commits to a life almost from another century(remember the movie Witness?) Quakers engage with this world. Many of the social changes for good which have happened in America started out with the Friends. The Quakers are big on education(Swathmore and Haverford colleges, plus innumerable Friends schools) while the Amish usually only finish 8th grade and dont engage in politics. Both are pacifists, neither have "standard" church services(thou there are several differing species of Quaker, plus the Amish are often confused with the Mennonites, who are actually abit different.) And yes, the Amish make great handycrafts. Ill shut up now, but I find unusual religious groups fascinating, and Pennsylvania with its Quaker roots of toleration, is a gold mine of such. Eb: >$87 and change, including automatically added tip. 87 bucks for pizzia for 6 people! Did I miss the post where you talked about being independently wealthy? Hmmmm-maybe I should "sell" you some of those sorid stories you keep thinking Ive got;-P. Thats if I actually had any, which--I dont:-) Hmmmm-maybe I could make something up. Id be good at that. Yeahhhh, thats the ticket. Who do you want a story about;-). Steve: As for your old ways, we love you just the way you are;-). But would the Quail wear a madras tie? I picture him more in Viking helmet, cape, and breeches with a well-thumbed copy of "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward" in its back pocket. And singing. He's definately singing;-). Martin with actual real on-the-spot Robyn news. Wheeeee! So Robyn finds the performing chimp, Courtny Cox, pretty inexplicable too. His set-list seems to include alot of songs bout fame, identity or famous identities--Veins of the Queen, Queen Elvis, Gene Hackman, Sally, Viva, Raymond Chandler, I Am Not Me, Only the Stones Remain(which is obviously about the Stones ability to do stadium tours into their dotage.) I wonder if that means the new song goes with that theme? Is the Glass Hotel song new, a Glass Hotel II or the original one? (Lor I love that song.) Would love to know which ISB and Beatle songs he did. Was Bayard there taping? Bayard, if Eb gives me lots of money for fake celeb stories, can I send you to England? Kay, who promises to use her new found wealth for the common good. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V10 #297 ********************************